QB Brock Purdy Thread

Originally posted by 49erKing:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by 49erKing:
You all weren't saying/thinking "WtF" during the 4 ints so far and the wtf throw to Tonges in Seattle?

Last five games he played, going back to last year, I only mention last year because of the three game losing streak to end the season, he has 8 interceptions. So 1-4 w/l, 8 interceptions. Can't blame his injuries (this year) for his play last year, or was he injured then too.

Dude I've talked about his TOs plenty in here, comparing him to Moody is dumb though.

it's more about "vibes" dude. I mean it's gotten to the point that the uneasiness we all felt when Moody is attempting to kick is the same feeling (at least for me) being experienced whenever Purdy drops back to pass now lulz.

Gotcha, yeah I'm not there…I will say I don't feel very confident when we're down to a 2 min drill late in the 4th to win it

Originally posted by genus49:
I've said it was a bad pass in many posts here. You, NY and some others were going on and on about how it was a terrible decision.

It was not. And yes CMC should have caught the ball. It was a hard catch to make but one he's capable of making. And saying IF CMC lets it go it's incomplete is not a stretch, it's reality.

That ball is not a pick without it being batted up in the air. So you guys want to analyze the play because of the result and act like it was a terrible decision by Brock to put that ball in danger. It was not.

Yea, I know you said it was a bad pass. You're hedging - trying to have it both ways.

It's a bad pass - but you expect CMC to catch it.

You expect CMC to catch it - but he also could have let it go ( ie - not even attempt to catch it). This is one of the most laughably unrealistic points I've seen here, easily.

You post a screenshot to argue a point nobody is arguing against (CMC was open). You seem to not even notice the screenshot confirms my argument about the passing lane (and the defender being on his throwing arm, causing him to alter the throw). This was obvious from watching the play.

Originally posted by genus49:
Must be if you think that wasn't a clear lane...

And I'm expecting CMC to catch that ball even if it's high. I'm simply pointing out the flaw in the argument that Brock throwing that meant instant disaster in some of yours opinions. There was a lot more good than bad that should've happened on that play.

You're reacting to it being a pick. And it's because CMC bats it up in the air and almost backwards where the defenders close on him and one manages to snag the rebound.

This is wide open in the NFL.

I think he's reacting to it being a bad throw all the same. If you think it's the right read fine. IMO that's not an easy throw and there was free yards to be had on 1st down in positive territory.

Blaming that on CMC at all is pointing the figure anywhere else but the QB and silly. That's a ridiculous play to make and he's not some elite tall WR. Full extension and he still couldn't get it.

this was a poor game for Brock, not sure why we can't just keep it real. I'm sure the injury affected some of it. I think Brock is went back to last yr's play and made s**t harder than it needed to be

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:

Originally posted by genus49:
Must be if you think that wasn't a clear lane...

And I'm expecting CMC to catch that ball even if it's high. I'm simply pointing out the flaw in the argument that Brock throwing that meant instant disaster in some of yours opinions. There was a lot more good than bad that should've happened on that play.

You're reacting to it being a pick. And it's because CMC bats it up in the air and almost backwards where the defenders close on him and one manages to snag the rebound.

This is wide open in the NFL.

I already acknowledged that CMC was open. Him not being open hasn't been a point at any time in my argument.

CMC should have caught that ball… CMC could have let the pass go. Just ridiculous stretches to defend a bad pass from your favorite QB. Par for the course.

If you acknowledge that CMC was open, I dont understand your original premise.....that it was a reckless throw.

For the record, I have agreed with everything that genus has said about this play aside from CMC possibly just letting the ball go.

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:

Originally posted by genus49:
I've said it was a bad pass in many posts here. You, NY and some others were going on and on about how it was a terrible decision.

It was not. And yes CMC should have caught the ball. It was a hard catch to make but one he's capable of making. And saying IF CMC lets it go it's incomplete is not a stretch, it's reality.

That ball is not a pick without it being batted up in the air. So you guys want to analyze the play because of the result and act like it was a terrible decision by Brock to put that ball in danger. It was not.

Yea, I know you said it was a bad pass. You're hedging - trying to have it both ways.

It's a bad pass - but you expect CMC to catch it.

You expect CMC to catch it - but he also could have let it go ( ie - not even attempt to catch it). This is one of the most laughably unrealistic points I've seen here, easily.

You post a screenshot to argue a point nobody is arguing against (CMC was open). You seem to not even notice the screenshot confirms my argument about the passing lane (and the defender being on his throwing arm, causing him to alter the throw). This was obvious from watching the play.

Even if folks think it was the right read, it was a hard throw to make…Genus keeps telling me his foot was the reason for all these inaccuracies, yet he continued to try and make these tough throws when he has outlets there on early downs. Take the free yards and move the ball. Especially if you're hurt and can't throw an accurate ball.

It's ass backwards when Brock has a layup deep ball there for Bourne and no one around him and he simply doesn't even attempt the pass. The excuse is he's not "confident" in Bourne. Like stop it with that stuff.

my issue with all of it is the excuses for poor play, instead of keeping s**t real. We all know this team isn't 100% but when you got those "easier" plays available make it happen, that's why he's paid all this money.

manage the game, DON'T turn the ball over and when a explosive presents itself take advantage. We know Brock can do that, yet he's gotten away from playing like that.

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
If you acknowledge that CMC was open, I dont understand your original premise.....that it was a reckless throw.

For the record, I have agreed with everything that genus has said about this play aside from CMC possibly just letting the ball go.

from my perspective it looked like a hard throw to make and it was obviously a bad throw. It was 1st and 10 on the Jags 37 and its only 7-3 at that point. For me I would be fine with an easy 5 yard completion and move the chains. Can't afford TOs when this team is as banged up as they are.

and yeah silly to try and blame CMC for not catching that.

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
If you acknowledge that CMC was open, I dont understand your original premise.....that it was a reckless throw.

For the record, I have agreed with everything that genus has said about this play aside from CMC possibly just letting the ball go.

I detailed it pretty clearly in previous posts. Mentioned it briefly in the post you're quoting.

If people want to argue that's a good decision strictly because CMC is open, that's their prerogative. I think there's more to consider. I think it's pretty obvious why it's an inaccurate pass, and why it was high and out in front of the target.

Originally posted by 49erKing:
it's more about "vibes" dude. I mean it's gotten to the point that the uneasiness we all felt when Moody is attempting to kick is the same feeling (at least for me) being experienced whenever Purdy drops back to pass now lulz.

Good point.

Now imagine the uneasiness Purdy feels when he looks around and sees Bourne, Moore, and Tonges, trying to run patterns that he can trust.

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
If you acknowledge that CMC was open, I dont understand your original premise.....that it was a reckless throw.

For the record, I have agreed with everything that genus has said about this play aside from CMC possibly just letting the ball go.

I detailed it pretty clearly in previous posts. Mentioned it briefly in the post you're quoting.

If people want to argue that's a good decision strictly because CMC is open, that's their prerogative. I think there's more to consider. I think it's pretty obvious why it's an inaccurate pass, and why it was high and out in front of the target.

Yes, it's called a Metatarsophalangeal joint sprain, otherwise known as "turf toe".

Originally posted by dj43:
Good point.

Now imagine the uneasiness Purdy feels when he looks around and sees Bourne, Moore, and Tonges, trying to run patterns that he can trust.

Bourne, Moore and Tonges wasn't even on the team when his issues started. This game was not a one off.

Originally posted by 49ersRing:
Yes, it's called a Metatarsophalangeal joint sprain, otherwise known as "turf toe".

Someone called it 'death foot'. Much better…

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:

Originally posted by genus49:
Must be if you think that wasn't a clear lane...

And I'm expecting CMC to catch that ball even if it's high. I'm simply pointing out the flaw in the argument that Brock throwing that meant instant disaster in some of yours opinions. There was a lot more good than bad that should've happened on that play.

You're reacting to it being a pick. And it's because CMC bats it up in the air and almost backwards where the defenders close on him and one manages to snag the rebound.

This is wide open in the NFL.

I already acknowledged that CMC was open. Him not being open hasn't been a point at any time in my argument.

CMC should have caught that ball… CMC could have let the pass go. Just ridiculous stretches to defend a bad pass from your favorite QB. Par for the course.

If you acknowledge that CMC was open, I dont understand your original premise.....that it was a reckless throw.

For the record, I have agreed with everything that genus has said about this play aside from CMC possibly just letting the ball go.

He was hoping you would forget lol. Great still shot though. These guys are arguing that the "right read" was Juice for 2-3 yards and 2nd and 7/8 is what we want.

Originally posted by Furlow:
He was hoping you would forget lol. Great still shot though. These guys are arguing that the "right read" was Juice for 2-3 yards and 2nd and 7/8 is what we want.

You want to go back and respond to my post from last night? I don't blame you for running from it, lol.

Originally posted by krizay:

Originally posted by dj43:
Good point.

Now imagine the uneasiness Purdy feels when he looks around and sees Bourne, Moore, and Tonges, trying to run patterns that he can trust.

Bourne, Moore and Tonges wasn't even on the team when his issues started. This game was not a one off.

Correct, his "issues" started when Aiyuk missed all of training camp and never got back on the same page with Purdy. They started with an unmotivated Deebo. They started when Charlie Woerner left and Kittle had to spend more time blocking to make up for the loss. They continue now for all the reasons we now see - to wit; none of the receivers scheduled to start at the beginning of the year being out there. All that stuff will take you off your game.

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:

Originally posted by Furlow:
He was hoping you would forget lol. Great still shot though. These guys are arguing that the "right read" was Juice for 2-3 yards and 2nd and 7/8 is what we want.

You want to go back and respond to my post from last night? I don't blame you for running from it, lol.

I didn't see it but just looked. Notice you left out the context of the conversation - hmm I wonder why? I mean I was defending Jimmy lol, which I clearly have admitted that I was wrong. I was also wrong about QBR (for similar reasons), not that it's perfect or anything. But since it takes into account things that passer rating does not, it's wise to weigh the two together.

Purdy's passer rating is bad right now, but the Niners have a ton of drops which drastically skews the stat. QBR adjusts for drops, so it provides context.

Edit: you also didn't quote the comments before this, and pivoted to a different point. Which you do all the time. Waving that white flag.