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Originally posted by dj43:
They certainly are not in the top-10 but they aren't one of the worst.

According to PFF rankings:

Tackles: #21 and #50 (Havenstein has been battling injuries, according to reports) out of 75

Guards: #13 and 45 out of 77

Center: #18 out of 34

I would say they that puts them average or slightly above.

How has PFF graded our line so far?
Originally posted by NYniner85:
I asked for a different view and it didn't change my opinion. Sorry if that makes you upset.

Dude was in his face when he actually let it go.



he can't throw the ball much lower to CMC, he's still gonna have to fully extend to get it and you're just not running in stride like that.

and after you disagree with my take, you're saying it was just a poorly thrown ball, which doesn't make anything better.

It doesnt make me upset that the view you asked for doesnt change your opinion.

You claim that he threw a layered pass, which has been proven false by this video. You claim there are defenders (and hands) all over the place, when no defender is within 5 yards of CMC when the ball arrives. That is you being unable to admit you are wrong, not that the video doesnt change your opinion.

I agree that the ball was high. Was it poorly thrown? Arguable. Was it because of his foot? Who knows. Was it because of the pass rusher? Probably.

You saying that he should have thrown to Juice is an opinion that I disagree with, but you arent "wrong" per se. Opinions like that are fine, even if I totally disagree with you on it. But outright making claims about a play that are proven false by video, and you STILL cant admit you were off base is the issue. But fortunately for us, its a YOU issue that makes YOU look bad. If that is how you want to present yourself, so be it.
Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:
How has PFF graded our line so far?

If we are to take what PFF has said about our line and assume it is accurate, it means CMC has been awful and is not running through the big lanes our line is creating.
Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:
Originally posted by dj43:
They certainly are not in the top-10 but they aren't one of the worst.

According to PFF rankings:

Tackles: #21 and #50 (Havenstein has been battling injuries, according to reports) out of 75

Guards: #13 and 45 out of 77

Center: #18 out of 34

I would say they that puts them average or slightly above.

How has PFF graded our line so far?

They have us graded 6th in pass blocking and 5th in run blocking.

But just saw this tweet and it's pretty relevant.


I think Kyle has insinuated that in the past as well.
Originally posted by genus49:
They have us graded 6th in pass blocking and 5th in run blocking.

But just saw this tweet and it's pretty relevant.


I think Kyle has insinuated that in the past as well.

I didn't cite PFF numbers though, did I?
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by genus49:
I'm acting like CMC and the running game are getting 3.2 YPC. Rams are averaging 4.9 YPC. That's a pretty substantial difference in how the run game can protect and help the QB.

Ricky and JJ aren't awful but JJ has been dealing with s**t since training camp. Ricky wasn't available late in that game, who knows how having him out there impacts the result. But Ricky and JJ aren't friggin Puca and Adams. Completely different level of support. That's not even getting into the other WRs.

I had more of an issue with Brock's decision making in the Seattle game than this last one. The throw to CMC was the right decision. The second interception less so but we also don't know if that ball isn't tipped if he can get it to Jennings(i think it was him)

The issue was his accuracy and like I said above...he was a totally different QB accuracy and ball placement wise vs Seattle. So what do we think the difference was? Rust? Or...

Again, it's everything else around Brock besides his own damn play lol. We had damn near the same WRs for 80% of the season thus far (plus Robinson this game) and it wasn't that bad. McCorkle did fine with less practice time with them.

How was that throw to CMC the right one? He had two check downs sitting right there.


It's one thing of play hero ball on 3rd down…but once again he's turning the ball over on 1st downs. Come on man.

IF it's his toe or whatever, which I'm not buying because he made some good throws all the same. Stop trying to make ridiculous layered throws and tossing the ball between 3 defenders knowing you can't accurately throw the football.

If you for no problem giving him all the praise and money when s**t is good, you should be able to criticize him when he's not playing well and s**t isn't good. He HAS to play better if this team is gonna go to the playoffs, period.

There is no way you're being this disingenuous NY. I like Rich but posting his takes isn't exactly saying anything. The guy knows his stuff but he's also incredibly biased in his takes - same guy who tried telling us Greenlaw wasn't a good linebacker. Earlier today he was arguing with Kurt Warner...

There is no way you can look at that play and say with a straight face it was a bad decision to throw to CMC. That is not only a first down but a possible TD if that throw is better or CMC a guy making almost as much as Brock is this season makes the tough catch.

That is not an impossible layered throw on that play. You know it. You're arguing in extreme bad faith here. I can at least understand if you brought up the 2nd pick. At least there the window is pretty tight and even if the ball isn't tipped the DB may get to it before Brock gets it to JJ but we also don't know because it WAS tipped and the trajectory was impacted as a result.

You also make it sound so easy - just take the quick checkdowns. They're not always there. It wasn't there on the fumble play and people kept yelling how he held the ball too long.

You keep making posts about how his decision making was terrible. It was not. His accuracy was poor and once again the odds that he simply forgot how to throw the ball properly after doing exactly that vs Seattle are slim.

Also asking a QB to cut out like 60% of his drawn up options because he can't trust his arm...may as well ask a guy to sit on the bench. The game dictates what happens. Here you are saying he should've played it safe and not attempted the more complex throws and few posts earlier you wanted him to let it rip deep to Kendrick Bourne...
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by Patton:
If Purdy connects on that throw, CMC is gone. Timing was off and he was about to get clobbered. Nothing wrong with this play.

Connects where? He catches that ball he's getting killed either way. 3 guys around him.

Dude...what are you doing?
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
See I disagree, that's a hard throw to make in the middle of the field and hands all over the place. I hate the attempt on 1st down with an easy outlet to Juice that's gonna get you 5 or more if he breakers one tackle.

Asking for proof, getting the proof, and still doubling down. Its ok to admit you were wrong.

Oh....and LOL at "hands all over the place":


I asked for a different view and it didn't change my opinion. Sorry if that makes you upset.

Dude was in his face when he actually let it go.



he can't throw the ball much lower to CMC, he's still gonna have to fully extend to get it and you're just not running in stride like that.

and after you disagree with my take, you're saying it was just a poorly thrown ball, which doesn't make anything better.

...so then you want him to bend that ball like he's in Wanted? You keep claiming the decision to throw that was bad...it was not. That's clear as day.

CMC is open on the play. If the throw is better and he catches that in stride he is very likely getting us first and goal at minimum if not running into the endzone. Even of the high pass if he brings that into himself instead of batting it up and backwards it's a big first down and possibly some YAC.

The decision was perfectly fine. Far from HERO ball and you know I'm on record for wanting him to play less of it.
Originally posted by dj43:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Messed up back and one of the worst OLs in football….I don't hear about excuses for him
They certainly are not in the top-10 but they aren't one of the worst.

According to PFF rankings:

Tackles: #21 and #50 (Havenstein has been battling injuries, according to reports) out of 75

Guards: #13 and 45 out of 77

Center: #18 out of 34

I would say they that puts them average or slightly above.

Originally posted by genus49:
...so then you want him to bend that ball like he's in Wanted? You keep claiming the decision to throw that was bad...it was not. That's clear as day.

CMC is open on the play. If the throw is better and he catches that in stride he is very likely getting us first and goal at minimum if not running into the endzone. Even of the high pass if he brings that into himself instead of batting it up and backwards it's a big first down and possibly some YAC.

The decision was perfectly fine. Far from HERO ball and you know I'm on record for wanting him to play less of it.

I want him to not try to make that throw and check it down for a 5+ yard gain on 1st down…especially if he's so banged up he can't throw an accurate ball
Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:
Originally posted by genus49:
They have us graded 6th in pass blocking and 5th in run blocking.

But just saw this tweet and it's pretty relevant.


I think Kyle has insinuated that in the past as well.

I didn't cite PFF numbers though, did I?

You asked where PFF had us graded, i responded lol. The tweet was one I just saw before coming into this thread and felt it was good and timely info in regards to PFF grades.
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by genus49:
...so then you want him to bend that ball like he's in Wanted? You keep claiming the decision to throw that was bad...it was not. That's clear as day.

CMC is open on the play. If the throw is better and he catches that in stride he is very likely getting us first and goal at minimum if not running into the endzone. Even of the high pass if he brings that into himself instead of batting it up and backwards it's a big first down and possibly some YAC.

The decision was perfectly fine. Far from HERO ball and you know I'm on record for wanting him to play less of it.

I want him to not try to make that throw and check it down for a 5+ yard gain on 1st down…especially if he's so banged up he can't throw an accurate ball

I want him to be accurate too but CMC gets paid a lot of money too. He should've come down with it. He admitted to it. The decision itself was not the issue. It's ok to admit that. Like I said, you'd have a much better case on the 2nd pick.
Originally posted by genus49:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by genus49:
...so then you want him to bend that ball like he's in Wanted? You keep claiming the decision to throw that was bad...it was not. That's clear as day.

CMC is open on the play. If the throw is better and he catches that in stride he is very likely getting us first and goal at minimum if not running into the endzone. Even of the high pass if he brings that into himself instead of batting it up and backwards it's a big first down and possibly some YAC.

The decision was perfectly fine. Far from HERO ball and you know I'm on record for wanting him to play less of it.

I want him to not try to make that throw and check it down for a 5+ yard gain on 1st down…especially if he's so banged up he can't throw an accurate ball

I want him to be accurate too but CMC gets paid a lot of money too. He should've come down with it. He admitted to it. The decision itself was not the issue. It's ok to admit that. Like I said, you'd have a much better case on the 2nd pick.

I've never heard a receiver say it was a poorly thrown ball. They always say they should have caught it. Just like the QB always says he should hav been more accurate or delivewred the ball a little quicker. It's rare for players to place blame on each other because they all know that they could have always done better themselves. The receiver doesn't know what kind of pressure the QB was facing since he's busy running routes.
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Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:
How has PFF graded our line so far?

Like there's nothing wrong with it.
Originally posted by genus49:
I want him to be accurate too but CMC gets paid a lot of money too. He should've come down with it. He admitted to it. The decision itself was not the issue. It's ok to admit that. Like I said, you'd have a much better case on the 2nd pick.

Dude it was a bad ball, he's a RB not a 6-3 Jennings. Blaming that on CMC just tells me you can't keep it real with the QB play here
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