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  • pd24
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Originally posted by Furlow:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by genus49:
Yes hyperbole. You expect more from a $250M QB? So why are you bringing up last year when he was a 7th round rookie salary? And as I said above his cap hit this year is $9 million. Where is your expectation about that?

The whole "Is he $240 million" better thing is a lame argument and I'm sure you know it. Brock earned a new deal, he got it and now he has to play regardless of his salary. Like ANY QB he can't play by himself. The first two turnovers were not on Brock. Either or both of those get wiped off the board and we don't know how the rest of the game looks but odds are we're at least discussing Brock's play after a win.

You may have different expectations but considering the job of the QB and WR are vastly different...you should be able to hold a guy accountable for 3 drops including a huge game shifting play. Farrell as we all know btw got a pretty good contract for basically being a blocking TE2. Expecting him to secure the ball isn't a big ask.

Look at Mahomes - no Rice, no Worthy and he's not looking like his usual self. Worthy gets back into the lineup and he plays his best game of the season. That's an actual elite QB in this sport and he's still feeling it when his top guys are out of the lineup.

Why are we shocked when Brock does as well?

Now I do agree Brock has to make better decisions on first/second down. There is a risk factor on some of those throws he goes for and he has to keep that gunslinger mentality in check but at the same time it's that mentality that gave us a lot of huge plays in 2023 when we had consistency at the skill positions and had an outside threat that kept defenses honest. Do we want him to turn into Alex Smith? I don't think so. How about the team just rallies around him and we protect the football?

I mean we had people yesterday talking how this was the worst QB performance they've seen...and you're telling me it's not hyperbole? Or did we get some fans who weren't around for Kap's 4 pick game vs the Cards? Cuz I'd say that game was FAR away worse than what Brock put on tape yesterday.

That avg play last yr was easier to stomach paying at a 7th rd salary, that's doesn't mean you throw all that film and stats in the trash. Go back to college, Brock has always tried playing hero ball which leads to TOs. He's been doing the same thing here.

Giving him the largest contract in franchise history and not expecting him to actually play at that level, lifting up a team that CAN'T afford to toss every all-star around him isn't lame…it's expectations. Anyone who makes more money has higher expectations. That's life bro.

I just saw Mahomes go for 270 and 4TDs vs the Ravens. I see Mahomes run around make plays every week.

I never said Brock sucks and I'm not "shocked" when he plays well. I'm saying hold some damn accountably on the guy who's making a f**k ton of cash and suppose to be the next great SF FQB. He's not playing great football and honestly he hasn't been for a little bit. His superpower is processing and being smart. Has he looked like that lately?

Yes when you watch the highlights on Sportscenter lol. The overall stats just don't back this up. Mahomes is dink and dunk and relies on his defense. Efficient and boring.

Pretty smart. He had to adjust to his weapons and lack of weapons and it looks like he did a pretty good job.
Originally posted by Furlow:
Last 17 games Purdy vs. Mahomes plus the NFL median/average

Purdy
Passing yards: 4,450
Yards/att: 8.4
Completion percentage: 65.9
TD: 24
INT: 16
Rating: 94.6

Mahomes
Passing yards: 4,157
Yards/att: 6.7
Completion percentage: 65.8
TD: 32
INT: 6
Rating: 98.1

Median team passing stats for 2024 (to give an approximate "average" for QB play)
Passing yards: 3,665
Yards/att: 7.1
Completion percentage: 65.1
TD: 22
INT: 12
Rating: 93.1

What jumps out to me are yards per attempt, TD's and INT's. Clearly we have a very aggressive QB who gets us chunk plays, something we have all wanted for a long time. The reason for lack of TD's is debatable but my opinion is Kyle is simply a terrible play caller in the red zone. He relies on play design rather than just taking advantage of matchups. It's too complex and I think we'd be better off just letting guys make plays against favorable matchups. The INT's are higher than average and that's probably a product of being aggressive and not having all weapons available. Purdy would be wise to dial down the aggressiveness when operating without key pass catchers.

He's not a "bottom half QB" by any stretch, that's just absurd. Probably falls in that 8-12 range. Get some guys healthy, finally address the OL pass protection, and get more experience and he can easily get in that top 5-6 area.

I mean we've had multiple seasons top 10 in RZ % so I don't think it's "just play calling" I mean KC has had one season since 2020 of being top 10 in RZ %, so Reid sucks too, right?

Purdy has been chucking YOLO balls since college. That's who he is good and bad. Brock needs to settle down and run the plays. It's okay to check it down on 1st down. His mechanics don't look great (like last yr) he's got stuff to work on. And everyone is hurt and that affects everything.
Originally posted by NYniner85:
That avg play last yr was easier to stomach paying at a 7th rd salary, that's doesn't mean you throw all that film and stats in the trash. Go back to college, Brock has always tried playing hero ball which leads to TOs. He's been doing the same thing here.

Giving him the largest contract in franchise history and not expecting him to actually play at that level, lifting up a team that CAN'T afford to toss every all-star around him isn't lame…it's expectations. Anyone who makes more money has higher expectations. That's life bro.

I just saw Mahomes go for 270 and 4TDs vs the Ravens. I see Mahomes run around make plays every week.

I never said Brock sucks and I'm not "shocked" when he plays well. I'm saying hold some damn accountably on the guy who's making a f**k ton of cash and suppose to be the next great SF FQB. He's not playing great football and honestly he hasn't been for a little bit. His superpower is processing and being smart. Has he looked like that lately?

Mahomes is Mahomes. Brock isn't that. We know it so get your expectations in check.

There has been 0 consistency on this roster this year. Last year was similar in some ways just no CMC most of the year but the running game was actually a lot better early in the season.

I know you understand the type of offense we run here and why consistency is so critical to our offense. There is a line between being too safe like an Alex Smith and too aggressive and Brock has to find it but it's also easy for us to sit back and tell him don't press it when he thinks he can make that throw. Going back to watch some of those bad passes yesterday we've seen him make those MANY times before. It's hard to believe the toe didn't play a factor when even last year those passes dip down with more arch and it's an easier catch for the receiver.

But in the end all I care about are wins. As bad as Brock played if we make some of those tough catches(CMC, JJ) or even the easy catches(Bourne) and Farrell holds onto the ball we very likely win that game and for the box score crowd a 300+ yard 3TD 1 INT game is a hell of a lot easier to swallow.

CMC btw is the highest paid RB in the game. Can we keep him accountable as well?
Originally posted by ninersrule4:
Originally posted by genus49:
Originally posted by pd24:
I don't care about that. Im talking about Brock in his last 17 games. He hasn't been good.

Bead team record, not even 25 passing TDs and way too many INT's.

I get he got paid for the year prior, but it wasn't a very smart decision from the front office if their plan was to gut the roster and expect him to elevate the play of players that aren't as good as we have had in the past.

Brock isn't a QB that will make average players look better than they are. He plays up to or down to the talent level around him. He is probably what Kirk Cousins used to be with more running ability

This is what Kyle Shanahan wants in a QB. What did you want them to do? Let him walk and roll with Mac Jones or the like...then do it all over again in a year or two?

I don't think that's a recipe for success do you? Other players getting big $ are getting older, potentially getting hurt so what does a cheap QB give you? You still have to draft well so you can find great young players to extend but who did we lose that we're really upset by right now? Dre? I feel for him but pretty sure he hasn't played a down for Denver yet. Huf? Aaron Banks? He's got a 38.3 PFF grade with GB and already missed 2 out of the 4 games.

People were upset we extended Aiyuk and Deebo so why are people so wrapped up about the money at least right now?

We all know he's not a Josh Allen, Lamar, Mahomes type of QB. But he's still very good. People are bashing the guy and yet despite all the pressure he's faced in his 2 games vs two top 5 defenses currently he's averaging more passing yards per game than any QB in the league right now.

Yes he's got to watch the turnovers but they're not exactly Jimmy G like picks. The team hasn't had any consistency around him since 2023. The one year they did he was in the MVP consideration.

I don't think it's crazy to think if we can just get consistent play around him, doesn't have to be Avengers level, we'd see a much better QB. It's just unfortunate that we won't know when his toe is fully healed this season now and how much of his poor accuracy yesterday was a result of that vs him just playing poorly.
He is paid to be very good and he isn't very good. He is solid and that is about it. He is paid up there with guys like Joe Burrow, Jordan Love, Jared Goff, Justin Herbert, Jalen Hurts and Matt Stafford. he isn't better than any of those QBs and I don't think he's even close to them.

2025 cap hits in millions $:
Joe Burrow - 46
Jordan Love - 29
Jared Goff - 32
Justin Herbert - 37
Jalen Hurts - 21
Matt Stafford - 47
Brock Purdy - 9

One of these is not like the others.
Originally posted by genus49:
If it helps Brock was better by a fraction of a point.

Though Lawrence didn't have anyone drop his passes and Brock was pressured 11 times more than Lawrence was so there's also that.

The difference between Purdy with quality (not necessarily All Pro) receivers versus the crew he had yesterday is dramatic. I'll restate for effect; No Kittle. No Aiyuk, a very "limited" JJ who was only on the field about 65% of the time. Tonges 45 of 66 snaps, Bourne (who was sitting on the bench until Lynch called) 44 snaps and three drops, #1 Pearsall was double-teamed much of the time and left after playing only 37 snaps, D Rob had no game time prior to yesterday and played on 25 snaps. Skyy Moore 8 snaps.

You just can't have a consistent passing game with such a ramshackle crew. You just can't. There was very little practice time with them last week. It's amazing Purdy was able to put up over 300 yards yesterday to say nothing about the pressure.
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Originally posted by pd24:
Originally posted by Furlow:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by genus49:
Yes hyperbole. You expect more from a $250M QB? So why are you bringing up last year when he was a 7th round rookie salary? And as I said above his cap hit this year is $9 million. Where is your expectation about that?

The whole "Is he $240 million" better thing is a lame argument and I'm sure you know it. Brock earned a new deal, he got it and now he has to play regardless of his salary. Like ANY QB he can't play by himself. The first two turnovers were not on Brock. Either or both of those get wiped off the board and we don't know how the rest of the game looks but odds are we're at least discussing Brock's play after a win.

You may have different expectations but considering the job of the QB and WR are vastly different...you should be able to hold a guy accountable for 3 drops including a huge game shifting play. Farrell as we all know btw got a pretty good contract for basically being a blocking TE2. Expecting him to secure the ball isn't a big ask.

Look at Mahomes - no Rice, no Worthy and he's not looking like his usual self. Worthy gets back into the lineup and he plays his best game of the season. That's an actual elite QB in this sport and he's still feeling it when his top guys are out of the lineup.

Why are we shocked when Brock does as well?

Now I do agree Brock has to make better decisions on first/second down. There is a risk factor on some of those throws he goes for and he has to keep that gunslinger mentality in check but at the same time it's that mentality that gave us a lot of huge plays in 2023 when we had consistency at the skill positions and had an outside threat that kept defenses honest. Do we want him to turn into Alex Smith? I don't think so. How about the team just rallies around him and we protect the football?

I mean we had people yesterday talking how this was the worst QB performance they've seen...and you're telling me it's not hyperbole? Or did we get some fans who weren't around for Kap's 4 pick game vs the Cards? Cuz I'd say that game was FAR away worse than what Brock put on tape yesterday.

That avg play last yr was easier to stomach paying at a 7th rd salary, that's doesn't mean you throw all that film and stats in the trash. Go back to college, Brock has always tried playing hero ball which leads to TOs. He's been doing the same thing here.

Giving him the largest contract in franchise history and not expecting him to actually play at that level, lifting up a team that CAN'T afford to toss every all-star around him isn't lame…it's expectations. Anyone who makes more money has higher expectations. That's life bro.

I just saw Mahomes go for 270 and 4TDs vs the Ravens. I see Mahomes run around make plays every week.

I never said Brock sucks and I'm not "shocked" when he plays well. I'm saying hold some damn accountably on the guy who's making a f**k ton of cash and suppose to be the next great SF FQB. He's not playing great football and honestly he hasn't been for a little bit. His superpower is processing and being smart. Has he looked like that lately?

Yes when you watch the highlights on Sportscenter lol. The overall stats just don't back this up. Mahomes is dink and dunk and relies on his defense. Efficient and boring.

Pretty smart. He had to adjust to his weapons and lack of weapons and it looks like he did a pretty good job.

It's very smart, I'm not knocking him at all. But he built his reputation on his rookie deal with insane weapons around him. Now that he doesn't have them he's around the league average except for TD's and INT's. He plays smart and keeps it short, relies on defense and field position. It's winning football. But this forum complained about that style for years and wanted an aggressive QB. Now we have one and they're complaining about that lol.
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Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by Furlow:
Last 17 games Purdy vs. Mahomes plus the NFL median/average

Purdy
Passing yards: 4,450
Yards/att: 8.4
Completion percentage: 65.9
TD: 24
INT: 16
Rating: 94.6

Mahomes
Passing yards: 4,157
Yards/att: 6.7
Completion percentage: 65.8
TD: 32
INT: 6
Rating: 98.1

Median team passing stats for 2024 (to give an approximate "average" for QB play)
Passing yards: 3,665
Yards/att: 7.1
Completion percentage: 65.1
TD: 22
INT: 12
Rating: 93.1

What jumps out to me are yards per attempt, TD's and INT's. Clearly we have a very aggressive QB who gets us chunk plays, something we have all wanted for a long time. The reason for lack of TD's is debatable but my opinion is Kyle is simply a terrible play caller in the red zone. He relies on play design rather than just taking advantage of matchups. It's too complex and I think we'd be better off just letting guys make plays against favorable matchups. The INT's are higher than average and that's probably a product of being aggressive and not having all weapons available. Purdy would be wise to dial down the aggressiveness when operating without key pass catchers.

He's not a "bottom half QB" by any stretch, that's just absurd. Probably falls in that 8-12 range. Get some guys healthy, finally address the OL pass protection, and get more experience and he can easily get in that top 5-6 area.

I mean we've had multiple seasons top 10 in RZ % so I don't think it's "just play calling" I mean KC has had one season since 2020 of being top 10 in RZ %, so Reid sucks too, right?

Purdy has been chucking YOLO balls since college. That's who he is good and bad. Brock needs to settle down and run the plays. It's okay to check it down on 1st down. His mechanics don't look great (like last yr) he's got stuff to work on. And everyone is hurt and that affects everything.

"YOLO balls" yet his completion percentage is the same as Mahomes who is now dink and dunk?

You've disliked Purdy from the start, and were all in on Lance. You prefer highlight reel athletic QB's that get on Sportscenter. That's okay, but just say that.

Purdy is playing hurt, clearly. Multiple weapons are out with injuries. The OL pass blocking is horrendous and the run blocking is pretty average. It's a miracle this team is 3-1. Get healthy, figure something out with the OL, catch the ball, and we'll be okay. Might need to trade for a pass rusher though, that was brutal to watch.
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Originally posted by dj43:
Originally posted by genus49:
If it helps Brock was better by a fraction of a point.

Though Lawrence didn't have anyone drop his passes and Brock was pressured 11 times more than Lawrence was so there's also that.

The difference between Purdy with quality (not necessarily All Pro) receivers versus the crew he had yesterday is dramatic. I'll restate for effect; No Kittle. No Aiyuk, a very "limited" JJ who was only on the field about 65% of the time. Tonges 45 of 66 snaps, Bourne (who was sitting on the bench until Lynch called) 44 snaps and three drops, #1 Pearsall was double-teamed much of the time and left after playing only 37 snaps, D Rob had no game time prior to yesterday and played on 25 snaps. Skyy Moore 8 snaps.

You just can't have a consistent passing game with such a ramshackle crew. You just can't. There was very little practice time with them last week. It's amazing Purdy was able to put up over 300 yards yesterday to say nothing about the pressure.

And should have been well over 400 with all of those drops. The long one that Bourne dropped was a killer. Jags returned the punt for a TD on the next play.
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Originally posted by Furlow:
Last 17 games Purdy vs. Mahomes plus the NFL median/average

Purdy
Passing yards: 4,450
Yards/att: 8.4
Completion percentage: 65.9
TD: 24
INT: 16
Rating: 94.6

Mahomes
Passing yards: 4,157
Yards/att: 6.7
Completion percentage: 65.8
TD: 32
INT: 6
Rating: 98.1

Median team passing stats for 2024 (to give an approximate "average" for QB play)
Passing yards: 3,665
Yards/att: 7.1
Completion percentage: 65.1
TD: 22
INT: 12
Rating: 93.1

What jumps out to me are yards per attempt, TD's and INT's. Clearly we have a very aggressive QB who gets us chunk plays, something we have all wanted for a long time. The reason for lack of TD's is debatable but my opinion is Kyle is simply a terrible play caller in the red zone. He relies on play design rather than just taking advantage of matchups. It's too complex and I think we'd be better off just letting guys make plays against favorable matchups. The INT's are higher than average and that's probably a product of being aggressive and not having all weapons available. Purdy would be wise to dial down the aggressiveness when operating without key pass catchers.

He's not a "bottom half QB" by any stretch, that's just absurd. Probably falls in that 8-12 range. Get some guys healthy, finally address the OL pass protection, and get more experience and he can easily get in that top 5-6 area.
Thats what i don't get is the Rating how the hell he got a 94.6 rating with his touchdown to Int ratio. To me that's 50% at best it's TD's and Int's that rule. In my math that ratio sucks.
[ Edited by bud49 on Sep 29, 2025 at 12:16 PM ]
Originally posted by dj43:
Originally posted by genus49:
If it helps Brock was better by a fraction of a point.

Though Lawrence didn't have anyone drop his passes and Brock was pressured 11 times more than Lawrence was so there's also that.

The difference between Purdy with quality (not necessarily All Pro) receivers versus the crew he had yesterday is dramatic. I'll restate for effect; No Kittle. No Aiyuk, a very "limited" JJ who was only on the field about 65% of the time. Tonges 45 of 66 snaps, Bourne (who was sitting on the bench until Lynch called) 44 snaps and three drops, #1 Pearsall was double-teamed much of the time and left after playing only 37 snaps, D Rob had no game time prior to yesterday and played on 25 snaps. Skyy Moore 8 snaps.

You just can't have a consistent passing game with such a ramshackle crew. You just can't. There was very little practice time with them last week. It's amazing Purdy was able to put up over 300 yards yesterday to say nothing about the pressure.

Agree with this.

I will say this. As a purdy homer he did not play well yesterday.

Now let me get in my excuses.

1. We can't actually run the ball. I am not sure if anybody has noticed but we can't run the ball. CMC is not that good anymore as a ball carrier. Between the tackles has always been the worst part of his game and now it's to the point where it's probably below the NFL average.

2. The offensive line can't even block effectively on zone running schemes no matter who the back is. They are the worst they have been in probably a decade.

3. We got rid of our power back in mason. There's no running backs to keep the other team honest even with our terrible offensive line. At least with mason you could wear the defensive line down by slamming it up the middle repeatedly with power.

4. Teams literally throwing it on third and 4th and short because we can't run the ball. It's pathetic. 4th and 2 throw it every time.

5. Because the other team knows we are going to pass every play this alludes to what everyone is saying. Purdy looks pedestrian because when everyone knows the play it becomes 1 on 1 matchups wr vs db. This is why with good players who win their matchups he looks good and with mediocre players he looks mediocre.
Originally posted by genus49:
Mahomes is Mahomes. Brock isn't that. We know it so get your expectations in check.

There has been 0 consistency on this roster this year. Last year was similar in some ways just no CMC most of the year but the running game was actually a lot better early in the season.

I know you understand the type of offense we run here and why consistency is so critical to our offense. There is a line between being too safe like an Alex Smith and too aggressive and Brock has to find it but it's also easy for us to sit back and tell him don't press it when he thinks he can make that throw. Going back to watch some of those bad passes yesterday we've seen him make those MANY times before. It's hard to believe the toe didn't play a factor when even last year those passes dip down with more arch and it's an easier catch for the receiver.

But in the end all I care about are wins. As bad as Brock played if we make some of those tough catches(CMC, JJ) or even the easy catches(Bourne) and Farrell holds onto the ball we very likely win that game and for the box score crowd a 300+ yard 3TD 1 INT game is a hell of a lot easier to swallow.

CMC btw is the highest paid RB in the game. Can we keep him accountable as well?

You brought up Mahomes I didn't, I'm not gonna toss out a couple stats and pretend Brock is Mahomes, that's silly and simply not reality we should all know that.

I want him to press it when it makes sense, there's nothing wrong with an easy check down on 1st or 2nd down. Positive yards, less time for bad s**t to happen imo. This team can't afford to lose theTO battle and win games.

I could be wrong but I think CMC is one of like 4 or 5 players with 100+ scrimmage yards in every game this yr. He's going whatever he can to help this time win.
Originally posted by tankle104:
I keep saying this - he was clearly injured. He couldn't throw off his foot properly… cause he shouldn't have been playing.

brock made poor decisions in the game but he couldn't even play properly cause he is injured. Try throwing off your plant foot when you can't plant properly or without pain. It's ridiculous
Mac Jones was more injured, that's why Brock was playing.
Originally posted by Furlow:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by Furlow:
Last 17 games Purdy vs. Mahomes plus the NFL median/average

Purdy
Passing yards: 4,450
Yards/att: 8.4
Completion percentage: 65.9
TD: 24
INT: 16
Rating: 94.6

Mahomes
Passing yards: 4,157
Yards/att: 6.7
Completion percentage: 65.8
TD: 32
INT: 6
Rating: 98.1

Median team passing stats for 2024 (to give an approximate "average" for QB play)
Passing yards: 3,665
Yards/att: 7.1
Completion percentage: 65.1
TD: 22
INT: 12
Rating: 93.1

What jumps out to me are yards per attempt, TD's and INT's. Clearly we have a very aggressive QB who gets us chunk plays, something we have all wanted for a long time. The reason for lack of TD's is debatable but my opinion is Kyle is simply a terrible play caller in the red zone. He relies on play design rather than just taking advantage of matchups. It's too complex and I think we'd be better off just letting guys make plays against favorable matchups. The INT's are higher than average and that's probably a product of being aggressive and not having all weapons available. Purdy would be wise to dial down the aggressiveness when operating without key pass catchers.

He's not a "bottom half QB" by any stretch, that's just absurd. Probably falls in that 8-12 range. Get some guys healthy, finally address the OL pass protection, and get more experience and he can easily get in that top 5-6 area.

I mean we've had multiple seasons top 10 in RZ % so I don't think it's "just play calling" I mean KC has had one season since 2020 of being top 10 in RZ %, so Reid sucks too, right?

Purdy has been chucking YOLO balls since college. That's who he is good and bad. Brock needs to settle down and run the plays. It's okay to check it down on 1st down. His mechanics don't look great (like last yr) he's got stuff to work on. And everyone is hurt and that affects everything.

"YOLO balls" yet his completion percentage is the same as Mahomes who is now dink and dunk?

You've disliked Purdy from the start, and were all in on Lance. You prefer highlight reel athletic QB's that get on Sportscenter. That's okay, but just say that.

Purdy is playing hurt, clearly. Multiple weapons are out with injuries. The OL pass blocking is horrendous and the run blocking is pretty average. It's a miracle this team is 3-1. Get healthy, figure something out with the OL, catch the ball, and we'll be okay. Might need to trade for a pass rusher though, that was brutal to watch.

While a lot of the bolded is true, it has nothing to do with NY's take on Purdy. Everything he's saying is true. Whether he liked him or not. I love me some Purdy but NY is dead on.

I'm very familiar with my takes being discounted because of draft preference. People can give their honest takes and it not having to do with their preferences. Though sometimes it does highlight exactly what one felt initially about that person. Still doesn't mean their take should be discounted
Originally posted by Furlow:
"YOLO balls" yet his completion percentage is the same as Mahomes who is now dink and dunk?

You've disliked Purdy from the start, and were all in on Lance. You prefer highlight reel athletic QB's that get on Sportscenter. That's okay, but just say that.

Purdy is playing hurt, clearly. Multiple weapons are out with injuries. The OL pass blocking is horrendous and the run blocking is pretty average. It's a miracle this team is 3-1. Get healthy, figure something out with the OL, catch the ball, and we'll be okay. Might need to trade for a pass rusher though, that was brutal to watch.

Yes yolo balls that turn into TOs at horrible points in games. Did it in college and it's starting to poke through the past year +

lol you got nothing objective to counter my point, so you go straight to me, typical and weak Have a convo about what we're talking about.

when is he not hurt? If he's not hurt, it's the weather or everyone else around him not being perfect. First couple weeks this OL was top 3 in pass blocking according to PFF and ESPN. I'm not saying they're great, but he's making enough problems all on his own.

look I don't think he sucks, he isn't good enough to overcome a bunch of TOs. Get back to the basics, take what they give you and move the ball. Those big plays will happen, stop forcing it.
If Brock is now going to also play poorly AND complain about minor physical stuff, the 49ers need to maybe consider moving on from Brock. Maybe trade him and commit to Max as your QB1 going forward. Brock's height is an issue so it may be for the best.
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