QB Brock Purdy Thread

Originally posted by pd24:

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by OnTheClock:
No one is saying Purdy is a terrible QB. We're just saying that he's more consistently average without a lot of help.

Alex Smith did more with less. I would take 2011 Alex over Brock easily right now.

I will be fair to Purdy in that his numbers yesterday should've been a lot better. The drops were ridiculous. A touchdown and two huge 1st downs were wiped off the board. But the multiple hospital balls and overall inaccuracy yesterday was inexcusable. Very Jimmy like. The fumble was inexcusable.

You have to let it rip against zone. Brock kept looking for the kill shot and by the time he accepted it wasn't there, the pressure had arrived, allowing everything underneath to get swallowed up.

He wasn't the only problem, but he played a big part in a disgustingly awful complete team loss.

The only guy who came to play was Warner.

Seriously? I'm pretty sure we all remember when Alex actually had less...it was not pretty.

The "less" you refer to in 2011 was #2 overall defense in points allowed, #4 overall in yards allowed. One of the best OL in the NFL. Terrific running game and the best TE duo in the league with Vernon Davis and Delanie Walker making it very tough for defenses to go in on run or pass plays with those out there.

The fact that his toe is feeling sore today clearly says he wasn't fully healthy during the game.

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Originally posted by genus49:

Look at Mahomes - no Rice, no Worthy and he's not looking like his usual self. Worthy gets back into the lineup and he plays his best game of the season. That's an actual elite QB in this sport and he's still feeling it when his top guys are out of the lineup.

Worthy had 5 catches for 83 yards. You think that is why Mahomes threw for 270 yards and 4 TDs? You are trying to hard to prop up Brock.

Originally posted by genus49:
People love to overreact on here.

Very true.

In both directions, though.

Originally posted by Jcool:

Originally posted by genus49:

Look at Mahomes - no Rice, no Worthy and he's not looking like his usual self. Worthy gets back into the lineup and he plays his best game of the season. That's an actual elite QB in this sport and he's still feeling it when his top guys are out of the lineup.

Worthy had 5 catches for 83 yards. You think that is why Mahomes threw for 270 yards and 4 TDs? You are trying to hard to prop up Brock.

If you don't think an outside presence creates a big schematic issue for defenses even when that guy isn't getting the ball I don't know what to tell you. Ravens defense hasn't been good this year on top of it but we've seen Mahomes' numbers drop when his guys are out.

It's not a Mahomes = Purdy comparison. It's a reminder that even the best like Mahomes take a hit when they don't have their heavy hitters in there. It's not a controversial take. Some of you guys are so cut and dry in these conversations it's like any critical thinking is slurping or propping up.

I've said Brock played very poorly yesterday and his decision making has to be better and he can't play hero ball on early downs. Doesn't mean we should close our eyes to everything else that's going on with the team and just yell "he's getting $250 million!!!!"

This is why the dude was the last pick in the draft. He peaked and now he's showing what he did so well in college throw picks galore. Bad investment once again.

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by Jcool:

Originally posted by genus49:

Look at Mahomes - no Rice, no Worthy and he's not looking like his usual self. Worthy gets back into the lineup and he plays his best game of the season. That's an actual elite QB in this sport and he's still feeling it when his top guys are out of the lineup.

Worthy had 5 catches for 83 yards. You think that is why Mahomes threw for 270 yards and 4 TDs? You are trying to hard to prop up Brock.

If you don't think an outside presence creates a big schematic issue for defenses even when that guy isn't getting the ball I don't know what to tell you. Ravens defense hasn't been good this year on top of it but we've seen Mahomes' numbers drop when his guys are out.

It's not a Mahomes = Purdy comparison. It's a reminder that even the best like Mahomes take a hit when they don't have their heavy hitters in there. It's not a controversial take. Some of you guys are so cut and dry in these conversations it's like any critical thinking is slurping or propping up.

I've said Brock played very poorly yesterday and his decision making has to be better and he can't play hero ball on early downs. Doesn't mean we should close our eyes to everything else that's going on with the team and just yell "he's getting $250 million!!!!"

Xavier Worthy had 59 catches for 638 yards last year. I think you are vastly overstating his impact on the Chiefs.

Originally posted by dj43:

Originally posted by pd24:

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by OnTheClock:
No one is saying Purdy is a terrible QB. We're just saying that he's more consistently average without a lot of help.

Alex Smith did more with less. I would take 2011 Alex over Brock easily right now.

I will be fair to Purdy in that his numbers yesterday should've been a lot better. The drops were ridiculous. A touchdown and two huge 1st downs were wiped off the board. But the multiple hospital balls and overall inaccuracy yesterday was inexcusable. Very Jimmy like. The fumble was inexcusable.

You have to let it rip against zone. Brock kept looking for the kill shot and by the time he accepted it wasn't there, the pressure had arrived, allowing everything underneath to get swallowed up.

He wasn't the only problem, but he played a big part in a disgustingly awful complete team loss.

The only guy who came to play was Warner.

Seriously? I'm pretty sure we all remember when Alex actually had less...it was not pretty.

The "less" you refer to in 2011 was #2 overall defense in points allowed, #4 overall in yards allowed. One of the best OL in the NFL. Terrific running game and the best TE duo in the league with Vernon Davis and Delanie Walker making it very tough for defenses to go in on run or pass plays with those out there.

The fact that his toe is feeling sore today clearly says he wasn't fully healthy during the game.

Slurp slurp

Do you have something constructive to add to the discussion? If you disagree with the points that have been made, bring your analysis. Until you do, your post is only trolling. Be better.

I posted statistics. I disagree with opinions. The Mod is posting options like it is some sort of facts.

Purdy has been a bottom half QB in his last 17 games played. It was a mistake to extend him based on his play from last season. The same type of play has continued in his 2 starts this season.

Originally posted by pd24:

Originally posted by dj43:

Originally posted by pd24:

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by OnTheClock:

No one is saying Purdy is a terrible QB. We're just saying that he's more consistently average without a lot of help.

Alex Smith did more with less. I would take 2011 Alex over Brock easily right now.

I will be fair to Purdy in that his numbers yesterday should've been a lot better. The drops were ridiculous. A touchdown and two huge 1st downs were wiped off the board. But the multiple hospital balls and overall inaccuracy yesterday was inexcusable. Very Jimmy like. The fumble was inexcusable.

You have to let it rip against zone. Brock kept looking for the kill shot and by the time he accepted it wasn't there, the pressure had arrived, allowing everything underneath to get swallowed up.

He wasn't the only problem, but he played a big part in a disgustingly awful complete team loss.

The only guy who came to play was Warner.

Seriously? I'm pretty sure we all remember when Alex actually had less...it was not pretty.

The "less" you refer to in 2011 was #2 overall defense in points allowed, #4 overall in yards allowed. One of the best OL in the NFL. Terrific running game and the best TE duo in the league with Vernon Davis and Delanie Walker making it very tough for defenses to go in on run or pass plays with those out there.

The fact that his toe is feeling sore today clearly says he wasn't fully healthy during the game.

Slurp slurp

Do you have something constructive to add to the discussion? If you disagree with the points that have been made, bring your analysis. Until you do, your post is only trolling. Be better.

I posted statistics. I disagree with opinions. The Mod is posting options like it is some sort of facts.

Purdy has been a bottom half QB in his last 17 games played. It was a mistake to extend him based on his play from last season. The same type of play has continued in his 2 starts this season.

If you want to go by stats then Brock has never been a bottom half qb. Not even last season

Originally posted by Jcool:
Xavier Worthy had 59 catches for 638 yards last year. I think you are vastly overstating his impact on the Chiefs.

But he turned it on during the playoffs if I remember right. He also had a 35 yd run yesterday too.

Originally posted by pd24:

Originally posted by dj43:

Originally posted by pd24:

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by OnTheClock:
No one is saying Purdy is a terrible QB. We're just saying that he's more consistently average without a lot of help.

Alex Smith did more with less. I would take 2011 Alex over Brock easily right now.

I will be fair to Purdy in that his numbers yesterday should've been a lot better. The drops were ridiculous. A touchdown and two huge 1st downs were wiped off the board. But the multiple hospital balls and overall inaccuracy yesterday was inexcusable. Very Jimmy like. The fumble was inexcusable.

You have to let it rip against zone. Brock kept looking for the kill shot and by the time he accepted it wasn't there, the pressure had arrived, allowing everything underneath to get swallowed up.

He wasn't the only problem, but he played a big part in a disgustingly awful complete team loss.

The only guy who came to play was Warner.

Seriously? I'm pretty sure we all remember when Alex actually had less...it was not pretty.

The "less" you refer to in 2011 was #2 overall defense in points allowed, #4 overall in yards allowed. One of the best OL in the NFL. Terrific running game and the best TE duo in the league with Vernon Davis and Delanie Walker making it very tough for defenses to go in on run or pass plays with those out there.

The fact that his toe is feeling sore today clearly says he wasn't fully healthy during the game.

Slurp slurp

Do you have something constructive to add to the discussion? If you disagree with the points that have been made, bring your analysis. Until you do, your post is only trolling. Be better.

I posted statistics. I disagree with opinions. The Mod is posting options like it is some sort of facts.

Purdy has been a bottom half QB in his last 17 games played. It was a mistake to extend him based on his play from last season. The same type of play has continued in his 2 starts this season.

You replied to my post to someone else. Everything I posted in there is actually facts.

Alex Smith was terrible before 2011.



In 2011 like I said in the post you took issue with, the players he had in 2011 were a heck of a lot better than what Purdy has had available with him in his 2 starts. I listed some of them in that post.

If you disagree feel free to respond and tell me which of those things are not factual. I have never given anyone any sort of infraction or warning for disagreeing with me as long as there are no personal insults or other site violations thrown in.

Originally posted by Jcool:

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by Jcool:

Originally posted by genus49:

Look at Mahomes - no Rice, no Worthy and he's not looking like his usual self. Worthy gets back into the lineup and he plays his best game of the season. That's an actual elite QB in this sport and he's still feeling it when his top guys are out of the lineup.

Worthy had 5 catches for 83 yards. You think that is why Mahomes threw for 270 yards and 4 TDs? You are trying to hard to prop up Brock.

If you don't think an outside presence creates a big schematic issue for defenses even when that guy isn't getting the ball I don't know what to tell you. Ravens defense hasn't been good this year on top of it but we've seen Mahomes' numbers drop when his guys are out.

It's not a Mahomes = Purdy comparison. It's a reminder that even the best like Mahomes take a hit when they don't have their heavy hitters in there. It's not a controversial take. Some of you guys are so cut and dry in these conversations it's like any critical thinking is slurping or propping up.

I've said Brock played very poorly yesterday and his decision making has to be better and he can't play hero ball on early downs. Doesn't mean we should close our eyes to everything else that's going on with the team and just yell "he's getting $250 million!!!!"

Xavier Worthy had 59 catches for 638 yards last year. I think you are vastly overstating his impact on the Chiefs.

I don't want to turn this into a Worthy/Mahomes thread but Worthy averaged 95 yards per game in the playoffs. His speed alone clears things out for the other guys. His impact is very clear IMO and not having him made that KC offense a grind.

Heck the guy led their team in rushing yesterday. That type of speed brings a lot to a team like that. We don't have that type of speed right now which isn't helping things btw. Obviously Brock doesn't have the arm that Mahomes does but speed is still speed and defenses have to account for it. Right now Pearsall is our fastest WR and he's gimpy as well and likely won't even play this week.

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by pd24:

Originally posted by dj43:

Originally posted by pd24:

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by OnTheClock:
No one is saying Purdy is a terrible QB. We're just saying that he's more consistently average without a lot of help.

Alex Smith did more with less. I would take 2011 Alex over Brock easily right now.

I will be fair to Purdy in that his numbers yesterday should've been a lot better. The drops were ridiculous. A touchdown and two huge 1st downs were wiped off the board. But the multiple hospital balls and overall inaccuracy yesterday was inexcusable. Very Jimmy like. The fumble was inexcusable.

You have to let it rip against zone. Brock kept looking for the kill shot and by the time he accepted it wasn't there, the pressure had arrived, allowing everything underneath to get swallowed up.

He wasn't the only problem, but he played a big part in a disgustingly awful complete team loss.

The only guy who came to play was Warner.

Seriously? I'm pretty sure we all remember when Alex actually had less...it was not pretty.

The "less" you refer to in 2011 was #2 overall defense in points allowed, #4 overall in yards allowed. One of the best OL in the NFL. Terrific running game and the best TE duo in the league with Vernon Davis and Delanie Walker making it very tough for defenses to go in on run or pass plays with those out there.

The fact that his toe is feeling sore today clearly says he wasn't fully healthy during the game.

Slurp slurp

Do you have something constructive to add to the discussion? If you disagree with the points that have been made, bring your analysis. Until you do, your post is only trolling. Be better.

I posted statistics. I disagree with opinions. The Mod is posting options like it is some sort of facts.

Purdy has been a bottom half QB in his last 17 games played. It was a mistake to extend him based on his play from last season. The same type of play has continued in his 2 starts this season.

You replied to my post to someone else. Everything I posted in there is actually facts.

Alex Smith was terrible before 2011.



In 2011 like I said in the post you took issue with, the players he had in 2011 were a heck of a lot better than what Purdy has had available with him in his 2 starts. I listed some of them in that post.

If you disagree feel free to respond and tell me which of those things are not factual. I have never given anyone any sort of infraction or warning for disagreeing with me as long as there are no personal insults or other site violations thrown in.

I don't care about that. Im talking about Brock in his last 17 games. He hasn't been good.

Bead team record, not even 25 passing TDs and way too many INT's.

I get he got paid for the year prior, but it wasn't a very smart decision from the front office if their plan was to gut the roster and expect him to elevate the play of players that aren't as good as we have had in the past.

Brock isn't a QB that will make average players look better than they are. He plays up to or down to the talent level around him. He is probably what Kirk Cousins used to be with more running ability

Watching the replays, so many of his throws were way too high. Why is he so bad at placing the ball way above the receivers? Maybe his height in comparison to the d-lines, but he has to get his ball placement in check.

With today's injuries, as I've said many times, Brock should of never played

According to PFF, he outplayed Trevor Lawrence, a generational #1 overall pick. Nice job, Brock. Considering the toe injury that really affected his performance, that's pretty impressive.