QB Brock Purdy Thread

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by tankle104:
If Purdy doesn't get offensive rookie of the year, then they need to inspect the voting process. He may have a smaller sample size than some but has done more than everyone else in less time.

Bosa should be DPOY
Dirty Purdy should be OROY
hot take: CMC didn't make pro bowl but will be second team all pro

I agree. Purdy should be a front runner for OROY. I think Bosa is a clear front runner for DPOY. I would argue that Shanahan deserves COY as well.

I think it'll go to Wilson though and I'd say he deserves it. Put up good stats in a rough situation. He's also really explosive - I think a podcast said that almost all of his touchdowns are 20+ yard plays

Originally posted by boast:

Originally posted by CO9er4life:

Originally posted by boast:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
At what point does he get his own sandwich?

keep refreshing Ike's menu throughout the playoffs.

Are the sandwich's any good?

yes

Ike's dirty purdy sauce ftw

Does anyone think that the voters will give Brock some sympathy because he is Mr Irrelevant - in other words, give him a vote because of the situation he comes from, instead a day one starter like Wilson.

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by boast:

Originally posted by CO9er4life:

Originally posted by boast:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
At what point does he get his own sandwich?

keep refreshing Ike's menu throughout the playoffs.

Are the sandwich's any good?

yes

Ike's dirty purdy sauce ftw

Dirty Purdy Sauce - I put that s!#t on everting. 😏

Originally posted by boast:
and Hurts is still limited in practice and Lane Johnson is out.

anything can happen.

Go make a couple bets then 🤑

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by tankle104:
If Purdy doesn't get offensive rookie of the year, then they need to inspect the voting process. He may have a smaller sample size than some but has done more than everyone else in less time.

Bosa should be DPOY
Dirty Purdy should be OROY
hot take: CMC didn't make pro bowl but will be second team all pro

I agree. Purdy should be a front runner for OROY. I think Bosa is a clear front runner for DPOY. I would argue that Shanahan deserves COY as well.

I think it'll go to Wilson though and I'd say he deserves it. Put up good stats in a rough situation. He's also really explosive - I think a podcast said that almost all of his touchdowns are 20+ yard plays

You maybe right. Wilson has over 1k yards and 12 receptions over 20 yards. Purdy saved our season and has 11 TD's in the last 5 games though. That is a tough one.

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by tankle104:
If Purdy doesn't get offensive rookie of the year, then they need to inspect the voting process. He may have a smaller sample size than some but has done more than everyone else in less time.

Bosa should be DPOY
Dirty Purdy should be OROY
hot take: CMC didn't make pro bowl but will be second team all pro

I agree. Purdy should be a front runner for OROY. I think Bosa is a clear front runner for DPOY. I would argue that Shanahan deserves COY as well.

I think it'll go to Wilson though and I'd say he deserves it. Put up good stats in a rough situation. He's also really explosive - I think a podcast said that almost all of his touchdowns are 20+ yard plays

he only has 4 TDs total

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by Furlow:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by libertyforever:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by libertyforever:

Originally posted by random49er:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by TheWooLick:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by libertyforever:

Originally posted by FunkyChicken:

Originally posted by libertyforever:
I think we want to be consistent here. If you don't like QB wins, then perhaps you should not like the number of rings a QB has to measure the QB performance either. If that is your position, maybe you can make a valid and solid argument that Dan Marino was better than Joe Montana.

QB wins and team success/ SB wins is often the reason Tom Brady is cited as 'The Goat' along with his crazy longevity.

But that is the point. For all of us Niners fans, if you think Joe Montana was GOAT (at least before Brady took the title), do you think QB wins and Rings are BS?

was Montana the caboose of those 9er teams .. no one has to bring up W/L for Montana.. you only bring up W/L when you have to prop someone up

His SB won loss record gets brought up a lot.

lol BS ..thanks for the laugh

How did we go from W/L records for average joes to multiple SB appearances and the W/L records in them?

Do they realize that the a SB win counts exactly the same in a W/L record as the 1st game to a season?

Which further defeats their original point? Lol.

Win or Lose,...getting to multiple SBs as a starting QB over & over is clear circumstantial evidence that you're probably doing something right.

This has ZERO to do with an ongoing regular season W/L tally.

You should probably read the thread first.
The original point was responding to the dislike of QBrec because this is a team sport. This same argument can apply to playoff win loss record for a QB, or QB SB win loss record, or QB SB win.

And my point, when you know a QB is good, you don't need to bring up W/L record

And my point is you just need to be consistent.

exactly, it's why it's not an official NFL stat

Neither is TOWP's but you guys REALLY want to talk about those.

W/L is a team stat. TWPR is a QB stat based on how they read a coverage, deal with pressure or just throw an inaccurate passes…sure there's some nuance to the stat but overall there's a correlation to having a high TWPR and tossing INTs year after year.

It doesn't mean Brock stinks, it's something to watch and see. No one wants their QB tossing balls in harms way…it shouldn't be this controversial.

I'm all about Brock and I hope he turns into the next Joe Burrow. He's a rookie and we should all expect ups and downs.

It's 11 man tackle football, EVERY stat is a "team stat." You and a few other like to dismiss QB wins because it goes against your narrative you're constantly pushing. You don't have to like the stat, but it exists, and is discussed A LOT by everyone in the football community. It's not going to go away.

Originally posted by Furlow:
It's 11 man tackle football, EVERY stat is a "team stat." You and a few other like to dismiss QB wins because it goes against your narrative you're constantly pushing. You don't have to like the stat, but it exists, and is discussed A LOT by everyone in the football community. It's not going to go away.

The win stat is a bigger function of the team as a whole then other stats would be. The defense doesn't influence how many picks their qb throws in a given game. But they sure as hell influence on whether he wins.

Originally posted by boast:

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by tankle104:
If Purdy doesn't get offensive rookie of the year, then they need to inspect the voting process. He may have a smaller sample size than some but has done more than everyone else in less time.

Bosa should be DPOY
Dirty Purdy should be OROY
hot take: CMC didn't make pro bowl but will be second team all pro

I agree. Purdy should be a front runner for OROY. I think Bosa is a clear front runner for DPOY. I would argue that Shanahan deserves COY as well.

I think it'll go to Wilson though and I'd say he deserves it. Put up good stats in a rough situation. He's also really explosive - I think a podcast said that almost all of his touchdowns are 20+ yard plays

he only has 4 TDs total

Ohhh I misheard them. I think they were saying he has like 12 plays over 20 yards. My bad

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:

Originally posted by Furlow:
It's 11 man tackle football, EVERY stat is a "team stat." You and a few other like to dismiss QB wins because it goes against your narrative you're constantly pushing. You don't have to like the stat, but it exists, and is discussed A LOT by everyone in the football community. It's not going to go away.

The win stat is a bigger function of the team as a whole then other stats would be. The defense doesn't influence how many picks their qb throws in a given game. But they sure as hell influence on whether he wins.

So if the defense is absolutely shutting down an opponent, which allows the offense to run the ball more, that doesn't influence how many picks a QB throws? Conversely, if a defense is getting gashed for 30-40 points, forcing the offense to throw the ball more, that doesn't influence the QB to possibly throw more picks?

https://www.nbcsports.com/video/matthew-berry-eyeing-brock-purdy-offensive-rookie-year

let's go!

Originally posted by tankle104:
Does anyone think that the voters will give Brock some sympathy because he is Mr Irrelevant - in other words, give him a vote because of the situation he comes from, instead a day one starter like Wilson.

I would not be surprised if there is co-winners this year with Purdy and Wilson

Originally posted by Furlow:

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:

Originally posted by Furlow:
It's 11 man tackle football, EVERY stat is a "team stat." You and a few other like to dismiss QB wins because it goes against your narrative you're constantly pushing. You don't have to like the stat, but it exists, and is discussed A LOT by everyone in the football community. It's not going to go away.

The win stat is a bigger function of the team as a whole then other stats would be. The defense doesn't influence how many picks their qb throws in a given game. But they sure as hell influence on whether he wins.

So if the defense is absolutely shutting down an opponent, which allows the offense to run the ball more, that doesn't influence how many picks a QB throws? Conversely, if a defense is getting gashed for 30-40 points, forcing the offense to throw the ball more, that doesn't influence the QB to possibly throw more picks?

I agree with Furlow. In football. All three phases of the game indirectly impact each other.

for example, if special teams sucks and the opponent starts in field goal range - if the defense does 3 & out but the opponent still gets a field Goal, that's special teams putting the defense in position to get scored on.

The performance of offense depends a lot on how defense & special teams are, vice versa.

Originally posted by krizay:

Originally posted by tankle104:
Does anyone think that the voters will give Brock some sympathy because he is Mr Irrelevant - in other words, give him a vote because of the situation he comes from, instead a day one starter like Wilson.

I would not be surprised if there is co-winners this year with Purdy and Wilson

now THAT is something I wouldn't mind. I'm usually against the whole kissing your sister thing (ties), but I think this would be a unique situation where everyone would understand and think both deserve it.

if I was a voter, I personally put a lot of emphasis towards "special performances" when it comes to awards. Nothing Wilson has done is special or unique, but he has had a really good rookie campaign. Purdy has done things that only a couple rookies ever have, so I consider that a special performance that warrants consideration even though the small sample size. Either way, I'm not worried about it. Just fun to think about this guy shocking the world and taking down the trophy