QB Brock Purdy Thread

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by Furlow:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by libertyforever:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by libertyforever:

Originally posted by random49er:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by TheWooLick:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by libertyforever:

Originally posted by FunkyChicken:

Originally posted by libertyforever:
I think we want to be consistent here. If you don't like QB wins, then perhaps you should not like the number of rings a QB has to measure the QB performance either. If that is your position, maybe you can make a valid and solid argument that Dan Marino was better than Joe Montana.

QB wins and team success/ SB wins is often the reason Tom Brady is cited as 'The Goat' along with his crazy longevity.

But that is the point. For all of us Niners fans, if you think Joe Montana was GOAT (at least before Brady took the title), do you think QB wins and Rings are BS?

was Montana the caboose of those 9er teams .. no one has to bring up W/L for Montana.. you only bring up W/L when you have to prop someone up

His SB won loss record gets brought up a lot.

lol BS ..thanks for the laugh

How did we go from W/L records for average joes to multiple SB appearances and the W/L records in them?

Do they realize that the a SB win counts exactly the same in a W/L record as the 1st game to a season?

Which further defeats their original point? Lol.

Win or Lose,...getting to multiple SBs as a starting QB over & over is clear circumstantial evidence that you're probably doing something right.

This has ZERO to do with an ongoing regular season W/L tally.

You should probably read the thread first.
The original point was responding to the dislike of QBrec because this is a team sport. This same argument can apply to playoff win loss record for a QB, or QB SB win loss record, or QB SB win.

And my point, when you know a QB is good, you don't need to bring up W/L record

And my point is you just need to be consistent.

exactly, it's why it's not an official NFL stat

Neither is TOWP's but you guys REALLY want to talk about those.

correct, but TOWP does help with how a QB plays

Originally posted by SLCNiner:

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by Heroism:

Originally posted by tankle104:

Anyone know what russ Wilson's 10 yard split was out of college? He used to be amazing at moving around and making defenders miss.

1.59

Dirty Purdy with the burnouts on DEs! Aka Lamar Purdy

Dirty Purdy? Love it!

Originally posted by Furlow:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by Furlow:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by libertyforever:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by libertyforever:

Originally posted by random49er:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by TheWooLick:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by libertyforever:

Originally posted by FunkyChicken:

Originally posted by libertyforever:
I think we want to be consistent here. If you don't like QB wins, then perhaps you should not like the number of rings a QB has to measure the QB performance either. If that is your position, maybe you can make a valid and solid argument that Dan Marino was better than Joe Montana.

QB wins and team success/ SB wins is often the reason Tom Brady is cited as 'The Goat' along with his crazy longevity.

But that is the point. For all of us Niners fans, if you think Joe Montana was GOAT (at least before Brady took the title), do you think QB wins and Rings are BS?

was Montana the caboose of those 9er teams .. no one has to bring up W/L for Montana.. you only bring up W/L when you have to prop someone up

His SB won loss record gets brought up a lot.

lol BS ..thanks for the laugh

How did we go from W/L records for average joes to multiple SB appearances and the W/L records in them?

Do they realize that the a SB win counts exactly the same in a W/L record as the 1st game to a season?

Which further defeats their original point? Lol.

Win or Lose,...getting to multiple SBs as a starting QB over & over is clear circumstantial evidence that you're probably doing something right.

This has ZERO to do with an ongoing regular season W/L tally.

You should probably read the thread first.
The original point was responding to the dislike of QBrec because this is a team sport. This same argument can apply to playoff win loss record for a QB, or QB SB win loss record, or QB SB win.

And my point, when you know a QB is good, you don't need to bring up W/L record

And my point is you just need to be consistent.

exactly, it's why it's not an official NFL stat

Neither is TOWP's but you guys REALLY want to talk about those.

correct, but TOWP does help with how a QB plays

That's a weird way of describing it; a stat does not "help" the QB lol. A stat is indicative of a QB's play. TOWP's and wins are both indicative of how the QB played. Since it's a team game, there is no stat that only measures that one player. So it's odd that any stat gets anyone so triggered and defensive.

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by Furlow:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by Furlow:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by libertyforever:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by libertyforever:

Originally posted by random49er:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by TheWooLick:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by libertyforever:

Originally posted by FunkyChicken:

Originally posted by libertyforever:
I think we want to be consistent here. If you don't like QB wins, then perhaps you should not like the number of rings a QB has to measure the QB performance either. If that is your position, maybe you can make a valid and solid argument that Dan Marino was better than Joe Montana.

QB wins and team success/ SB wins is often the reason Tom Brady is cited as 'The Goat' along with his crazy longevity.

But that is the point. For all of us Niners fans, if you think Joe Montana was GOAT (at least before Brady took the title), do you think QB wins and Rings are BS?

was Montana the caboose of those 9er teams .. no one has to bring up W/L for Montana.. you only bring up W/L when you have to prop someone up

His SB won loss record gets brought up a lot.

lol BS ..thanks for the laugh

How did we go from W/L records for average joes to multiple SB appearances and the W/L records in them?

Do they realize that the a SB win counts exactly the same in a W/L record as the 1st game to a season?

Which further defeats their original point? Lol.

Win or Lose,...getting to multiple SBs as a starting QB over & over is clear circumstantial evidence that you're probably doing something right.

This has ZERO to do with an ongoing regular season W/L tally.

You should probably read the thread first.
The original point was responding to the dislike of QBrec because this is a team sport. This same argument can apply to playoff win loss record for a QB, or QB SB win loss record, or QB SB win.

And my point, when you know a QB is good, you don't need to bring up W/L record

And my point is you just need to be consistent.

exactly, it's why it's not an official NFL stat

Neither is TOWP's but you guys REALLY want to talk about those.

correct, but TOWP does help with how a QB plays

That's a weird way of describing it; a stat does not "help" the QB lol. A stat is indicative of a QB's play. TOWP's and wins are both indicative of how the QB played. Since it's a team game, there is no stat that only measures that one player. So it's odd that any stat gets anyone so triggered and defensive.

it helps the person/fans who sees that stat.

If someone told you that Zach wilson has 2-3 TOWPs a game.. would you believe it ?

Originally posted by Furlow:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by libertyforever:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by libertyforever:

Originally posted by random49er:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by TheWooLick:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by libertyforever:

Originally posted by FunkyChicken:

Originally posted by libertyforever:
I think we want to be consistent here. If you don't like QB wins, then perhaps you should not like the number of rings a QB has to measure the QB performance either. If that is your position, maybe you can make a valid and solid argument that Dan Marino was better than Joe Montana.

QB wins and team success/ SB wins is often the reason Tom Brady is cited as 'The Goat' along with his crazy longevity.

But that is the point. For all of us Niners fans, if you think Joe Montana was GOAT (at least before Brady took the title), do you think QB wins and Rings are BS?

was Montana the caboose of those 9er teams .. no one has to bring up W/L for Montana.. you only bring up W/L when you have to prop someone up

His SB won loss record gets brought up a lot.

lol BS ..thanks for the laugh

How did we go from W/L records for average joes to multiple SB appearances and the W/L records in them?

Do they realize that the a SB win counts exactly the same in a W/L record as the 1st game to a season?

Which further defeats their original point? Lol.

Win or Lose,...getting to multiple SBs as a starting QB over & over is clear circumstantial evidence that you're probably doing something right.

This has ZERO to do with an ongoing regular season W/L tally.

You should probably read the thread first.
The original point was responding to the dislike of QBrec because this is a team sport. This same argument can apply to playoff win loss record for a QB, or QB SB win loss record, or QB SB win.

And my point, when you know a QB is good, you don't need to bring up W/L record

And my point is you just need to be consistent.

exactly, it's why it's not an official NFL stat

Neither is TOWP's but you guys REALLY want to talk about those.

Originally posted by NYniner85:
W/L is a team stat. TWPR is a QB stat based on how they read a coverage, deal with pressure or just throw an inaccurate passes…sure there's some nuance to the stat but overall there's a correlation to having a high TWPR and tossing INTs year after year.

It doesn't mean Brock stinks, it's something to watch and see. No one wants their QB tossing balls in harms way…it shouldn't be this controversial.

I'm all about Brock and I hope he turns into the next Joe Burrow. He's a rookie and we should all expect ups and downs.

Originally posted by Hysterikal:

Originally posted by NYniner85:
W/L is a team stat. TWPR is a QB stat based on how they read a coverage, deal with pressure or just throw an inaccurate passes…sure there's some nuance to the stat but overall there's a correlation to having a high TWPR and tossing INTs year after year.

It doesn't mean Brock stinks, it's something to watch and see. No one wants their QB tossing balls in harms way…it shouldn't be this controversial.

I'm all about Brock and I hope he turns into the next Joe Burrow. He's a rookie and we should all expect ups and downs.

What in football gods name is TWPR? I swear there's a new stat I learn about every time I venture into the QB forums.

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by Hysterikal:

Originally posted by NYniner85:
W/L is a team stat. TWPR is a QB stat based on how they read a coverage, deal with pressure or just throw an inaccurate passes…sure there's some nuance to the stat but overall there's a correlation to having a high TWPR and tossing INTs year after year.

It doesn't mean Brock stinks, it's something to watch and see. No one wants their QB tossing balls in harms way…it shouldn't be this controversial.

I'm all about Brock and I hope he turns into the next Joe Burrow. He's a rookie and we should all expect ups and downs.

What in football gods name is TWPR? I swear there's a new stat I learn about every time I venture into the QB forums.

I think Turnover Worthy Play Rate

Originally posted by Hysterikal:

Originally posted by NYniner85:
W/L is a team stat. TWPR is a QB stat based on how they read a coverage, deal with pressure or just throw an inaccurate passes…sure there's some nuance to the stat but overall there's a correlation to having a high TWPR and tossing INTs year after year.

It doesn't mean Brock stinks, it's something to watch and see. No one wants their QB tossing balls in harms way…it shouldn't be this controversial.

I'm all about Brock and I hope he turns into the next Joe Burrow. He's a rookie and we should all expect ups and downs.

What in football gods name is TWPR? I swear there's a new stat I learn about every time I venture into the QB forums.

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by Hysterikal:

Originally posted by NYniner85:
W/L is a team stat. TWPR is a QB stat based on how they read a coverage, deal with pressure or just throw an inaccurate passes…sure there's some nuance to the stat but overall there's a correlation to having a high TWPR and tossing INTs year after year.

It doesn't mean Brock stinks, it's something to watch and see. No one wants their QB tossing balls in harms way…it shouldn't be this controversial.

I'm all about Brock and I hope he turns into the next Joe Burrow. He's a rookie and we should all expect ups and downs.

What in football gods name is TWPR? I swear there's a new stat I learn about every time I venture into the QB forums.

Turnover worthy play rate. It is a % based on how many times the QB puts the ball in harms way divided by the number of dropbacks.

Originally posted by Hysterikal:

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by Hysterikal:

Originally posted by NYniner85:
W/L is a team stat. TWPR is a QB stat based on how they read a coverage, deal with pressure or just throw an inaccurate passes…sure there's some nuance to the stat but overall there's a correlation to having a high TWPR and tossing INTs year after year.

It doesn't mean Brock stinks, it's something to watch and see. No one wants their QB tossing balls in harms way…it shouldn't be this controversial.

I'm all about Brock and I hope he turns into the next Joe Burrow. He's a rookie and we should all expect ups and downs.

What in football gods name is TWPR? I swear there's a new stat I learn about every time I venture into the QB forums.

Turnover worthy play rate. It is a % based on how many times the QB puts the ball in harms way divided by the number of dropbacks.

Isn't that the same as tight window throws which is included in big time throws.

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by Hysterikal:

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by Hysterikal:

Originally posted by NYniner85:
W/L is a team stat. TWPR is a QB stat based on how they read a coverage, deal with pressure or just throw an inaccurate passes…sure there's some nuance to the stat but overall there's a correlation to having a high TWPR and tossing INTs year after year.

It doesn't mean Brock stinks, it's something to watch and see. No one wants their QB tossing balls in harms way…it shouldn't be this controversial.

I'm all about Brock and I hope he turns into the next Joe Burrow. He's a rookie and we should all expect ups and downs.

What in football gods name is TWPR? I swear there's a new stat I learn about every time I venture into the QB forums.

Turnover worthy play rate. It is a % based on how many times the QB puts the ball in harms way divided by the number of dropbacks.

Isn't that the same as tight window throws which is included in big time throws.

In harms way would mean that the QB either put the ball on the ground (fumble) or the pass hit the defender first.

Originally posted by Hysterikal:
Sounds like an opinion stat like the sack created stat.