QB Brock Purdy Thread

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
a good sign

It looks like Brock Purdy had some extra zip on his throws at practice today

🎥: @AnthonyTVSports pic.twitter.com/ccBoPrskDQ

— Coach Yac 🗣 (@Coach_Yac) June 10, 2025

Yes siree

Originally posted by DRCHOWDER:
Tua being in the "Didn't face much pressure period" but being concussed and almost sent to retirement last season is sending me lolol......

1 hit can end your career and he's had concussion issues b4 last year. Doesn't say much of anything.

Originally posted by DonnieDarko:
fans are stupid, his arm looked plenty fine to me

I mean we went from "always had zip" to "seemed fine",....which has a helluva lot of gray area, btw.

For context, this is from an article before his 2023 campaign:

One of Hewlett's first tasks was altering the way Purdy stood when delivering the ball. He wanted the quarterback's heel planted in the grass more firmly so he could engage his glutes and incorporate his hips more in the throw.

The results surprised Hewlett.

He said his pupils sometimes can add 1 or maybe even 2 mph to their throws over the course of an offseason. When Purdy properly planted his feet and took full advantage of the considerable torque available in his lower body, his maximum velocity leaped by nearly 5 mph to 55 1/2 mph. To put that in context, Colin Kaepernick, a quarterback known for his big arm, threw a then-record 59 mph pass at the 2011 NFL Scouting Combine.

https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/4864269/2023/09/16/brock-purdy-thighs-49ers/

If it increased to about 55.5 then it was 50ish before. Is a maximum throwing velocity of 50-51 mph "always having zip" to you?

If that were the case, what was the work all about to begin with, and why did he improve it so much, and why does his best season coming off of that improvement seem to support it?

What likely happened is the wear and tear perhaps mounted and reduced some midseason velocity that surely wasn't going to come back up until he had an offseason to get back right again. It's not a gift of his, as said before, so getting back up to speed physically will likely always be a constant theme or focus throughout his career.

And so long as he puts in the work and luck is on his side, that's okay.

Originally posted by ChaunceyGardner:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
a good sign

It looks like Brock Purdy had some extra zip on his throws at practice today

🎥: @AnthonyTVSports pic.twitter.com/ccBoPrskDQ

— Coach Yac 🗣 (@Coach_Yac) June 10, 2025

Yes siree

My Hope has always been that once he gets enough experience and playing defenses, that he will get really fast out there and the offense be able to pressure a defense through the air.

I hope he has a super year and our offense is a juggernaut again.

Originally posted by random49er:

Originally posted by DonnieDarko:
fans are stupid, his arm looked plenty fine to me

I mean we went from "always had zip" to "seemed fine",....which has a helluva lot of gray area, btw.

For context, this is from an article before his 2023 campaign:

One of Hewlett's first tasks was altering the way Purdy stood when delivering the ball. He wanted the quarterback's heel planted in the grass more firmly so he could engage his glutes and incorporate his hips more in the throw.

The results surprised Hewlett.

He said his pupils sometimes can add 1 or maybe even 2 mph to their throws over the course of an offseason. When Purdy properly planted his feet and took full advantage of the considerable torque available in his lower body, his maximum velocity leaped by nearly 5 mph to 55 1/2 mph. To put that in context, Colin Kaepernick, a quarterback known for his big arm, threw a then-record 59 mph pass at the 2011 NFL Scouting Combine.

https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/4864269/2023/09/16/brock-purdy-thighs-49ers/

If it increased to about 55.5 then it was 50ish before. Is a maximum throwing velocity of 50-51 mph "always having zip" to you?

If that were the case, what was the work all about to begin with, and why did he improve it so much, and why does his best season coming off of that improvement seem to support it?

What likely happened is the wear and tear perhaps mounted and reduced some midseason velocity that surely wasn't going to come back up until he had an offseason to get back right again. It's not a gift of his, as said before, so getting back up to speed physically will likely always be a constant theme or focus throughout his career.

And so long as he puts in the work and luck is on his side, that's okay.

I swear, you just invent positions to argue against.

Originally posted by Chance:
I swear, you just invent positions to argue against.

Great point about the 49ers.

Originally posted by random49er:

Originally posted by DonnieDarko:
fans are stupid, his arm looked plenty fine to me

I mean we went from "always had zip" to "seemed fine",....which has a helluva lot of gray area, btw.

For context, this is from an article before his 2023 campaign:

One of Hewlett's first tasks was altering the way Purdy stood when delivering the ball. He wanted the quarterback's heel planted in the grass more firmly so he could engage his glutes and incorporate his hips more in the throw.

The results surprised Hewlett.

He said his pupils sometimes can add 1 or maybe even 2 mph to their throws over the course of an offseason. When Purdy properly planted his feet and took full advantage of the considerable torque available in his lower body, his maximum velocity leaped by nearly 5 mph to 55 1/2 mph. To put that in context, Colin Kaepernick, a quarterback known for his big arm, threw a then-record 59 mph pass at the 2011 NFL Scouting Combine.

https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/4864269/2023/09/16/brock-purdy-thighs-49ers/

If it increased to about 55.5 then it was 50ish before. Is a maximum throwing velocity of 50-51 mph "always having zip" to you?

If that were the case, what was the work all about to begin with, and why did he improve it so much, and why does his best season coming off of that improvement seem to support it?

What likely happened is the wear and tear perhaps mounted and reduced some midseason velocity that surely wasn't going to come back up until he had an offseason to get back right again. It's not a gift of his, as said before, so getting back up to speed physically will likely always be a constant theme or focus throughout his career.

And so long as he puts in the work and luck is on his side, that's okay.

What are you confused about? I said he's always had zip on his throws, you can look at his preseason tape from his rookie season as evidence IMO. If you disagree that's fine I don't really care tbh.

Originally posted by DonnieDarko:

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

PFF assigns blame for every pressure.

Guys who were under a lot of pressure, but it usually wasn't their fault:
-Geno Smith
-CJ Stroud
-Sam Darnold pic.twitter.com/IlsvqbXCO7

— Ian Hartitz (@Ihartitz) June 11, 2025

Playmaker

kinda bucks the whole oline is s**t narrative

Not quite.

Originally posted by genus49:
PFF had us with 182 pressures allowed.

PFF had them with 213 pressures allowed but only 173 during the regular season. Playing 4 extra games obviously adds more opportunities for pressures.

But also 37 of those pressures came from a backup in Fred Jackson, who led the team even if you add in the playoff games(where he didn't play at all)

If you're just comparing the starting OLs(which I believe is what most people focus on, though depth is important) and looking at just the regular season since the 49ers unfortuantely had no playoff games to look at.

Eagles starters gave up 100 pressures total
49ers starters gave up 139 pressures total

49ers starters did play more pass blocking reps though. I also think PFF tends to ignore pressures when guys straight up whiff on protection calls, something that we saw on our side a lot more than Eagles deal with. PFF won't make an assumption on which OLman had that assignment so they won't give a bad grade or attribute the pressure or even sack to a lineman if he didn't engage and get beat(I call that the Alex Boone, cuz that's when I learned they do that)

One of the bigger issues with our OL play doesn't get reflected well in PFF metrics because of the bold above. They won't assign blame when guys come in free unless a blocker on offense actually physically engages them and gets beat.

And we had way too many protection breakdowns where we had unaccounted free rushers out there.

Also if you look at the players he's lumped in with, for the most part I'd say that's not necessarily a damning thing for a QB. Why I jokingly said he's a playmaker.

When you take all things into consideration - including the injuries and issues we had on offense outside of the OL the fact that Brock is in the same spot on that chart as Lamar, Allen and Mahomes is certainly not a horrible thing. He just needs to elevate his play when pressured and be smart with the times where its better to hold the ball and look for bigger plays.

Last year with the inconsistencies at WR and then Aiyuk being out it would've been smarter for him to check it down a lot more than he did. Though at the same time not having CMC most of the year hurt that part of the game as well.

For me my biggest thing for the OL is cleaning up our protection calls/rules so we don't see as many free rushers coming.

Originally posted by DonnieDarko:

Originally posted by 49ersRing:
It's interesting that according to this, Jalen Hurts was pressured more than Brock Purdy with both to blame for about the same % of pressure. Yet, the Eagles o-line is the envy of the league and a lot of our fans see our o-line as one of the worst.

Sacks Allowed 2024 Regular Season

1. Bears - 68
13. Eagles - 45
21. 49ers - 36

Niner fans have been making it out to seem like we are the Bears

Do we just want to settle for not being the Bears or do we want to be able to win SBs again? There is a lot of middle ground there. Our pass protection needs help, whether the rules/calls we have to eliminate so many free rushers or the guys we have simply have to perform better or keep their mistakes out of key moments.

Bears btw made a major concerned effort to flip their OL. We didn't really change a thing.

Originally posted by DonnieDarko:

What are you confused about? I said he's always had zip on his throws, you can look at his preseason tape from his rookie season as evidence IMO. If you disagree that's fine I don't really care tbh.

Well you can define "zip" to be whatever you want,....so enjoy it.

I was just putting some context to things with actual numbers tho.

The average mph they find QBs from the draft to have per Ourlads is 54 mph.

And that's just combine QBs,...not QBs that actually make it to rosters.

If I use that number as a reference, though, he was considerably below average before his 2023 offseason and crept to above before his most successful season.

No one's trying to change your opinion because u can make zip out to be whatever you want. But I think the numbers certainly put the "fans are stupid" thing you said in the trash. IDK what they're seeing but from his own trainer's words and the numbers on record, it looks to have plenty of merit.

Originally posted by DonnieDarko:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by DonnieDarko:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
a good sign

It looks like Brock Purdy had some extra zip on his throws at practice today

🎥: @AnthonyTVSports pic.twitter.com/ccBoPrskDQ

— Coach Yac 🗣 (@Coach_Yac) June 10, 2025

He always had zip

there's a handful on comments on the tweet that say otherwise. here is one:

Think he played a large portion of last season on an injured arm. I expect him to return to 2023 levels of production and long range accuracy

here is another:

Ok I feel like brock wasnt 100% last year. The balls looking faster than last season.

and another:

His arm finally healed you can tell

fans are stupid, his arm looked plenty fine to me

His arm was definitely affected after the shoulder injury later in the season. However Faithful likes to act like his arm was bad all year long which wasn't the case.

Either way when Brock is healthy his arm isn't an issue. Let's keep him healthy...along with the rest of the squad please!

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by DonnieDarko:

Originally posted by 49ersRing:
It's interesting that according to this, Jalen Hurts was pressured more than Brock Purdy with both to blame for about the same % of pressure. Yet, the Eagles o-line is the envy of the league and a lot of our fans see our o-line as one of the worst.

Sacks Allowed 2024 Regular Season

1. Bears - 68
13. Eagles - 45
21. 49ers - 36

Niner fans have been making it out to seem like we are the Bears

Do we just want to settle for not being the Bears or do we want to be able to win SBs again? There is a lot of middle ground there. Our pass protection needs help, whether the rules/calls we have to eliminate so many free rushers or the guys we have simply have to perform better or keep their mistakes out of key moments.

Bears btw made a major concerned effort to flip their OL. We didn't really change a thing.

Brock like Williams played a bigger part in creating his own pressure last yr, that's what that graph showed and other metrics back it up. No this OL isn't not elite, it has been proven time and time again we don't need an elite OL to score a ton of points.

I think everyone agrees more bodies on the OL for competition and development is a good thing.

Originally posted by NYniner85:
Brock like Williams played a bigger part in creating his own pressure last yr, that's what that graph showed and other metrics back it up. No this OL isn't not elite, it has been proven time and time again we don't need an elite OL to score a ton of points.

I think everyone agrees more bodies on the OL for competition and development is a good thing.

williams they drop him back a ton, and he doesn't really know what he's doing. he wants to hold the ball and that may have worked for him at high school and college, it didn't work in the pros. brock knows what he is doing, he just some reps tries to do a bit much, which can work well for us, but it can also backfire. off schedule needs to be the exception, not the rule. i think it's a movement, like steph in NBA. nowadays, every young bball player is shooting half court thinking they are curry. same with mahomes. all the QBs coming up want to do off platform, off schedule, run around and hold the ball. nice to have that in your bag, but nfl is still timed up and you gotta play on schedule, which brock can do and williams cannot yet. williams will be a bust if he can't figure that out.

Originally posted by genus49:
His arm was definitely affected after the shoulder injury later in the season. However Faithful likes to act like his arm was bad all year long which wasn't the case.

Either way when Brock is healthy his arm isn't an issue. Let's keep him healthy...along with the rest of the squad please!

it's funny cuz during our s**tty '24 season, no one chirped about brock's arm/possibly being injured. now they see some stupid minicamp video and they are saying he was probably hurt. fans are stupid af. his arm has always been fine post surgery. '23 he had plenty of zip, looked great.

Originally posted by DonnieDarko:

Originally posted by genus49:
His arm was definitely affected after the shoulder injury later in the season. However Faithful likes to act like his arm was bad all year long which wasn't the case.

Either way when Brock is healthy his arm isn't an issue. Let's keep him healthy...along with the rest of the squad please!

it's funny cuz during our s**tty '24 season, no one chirped about brock's arm/possibly being injured. now they see some stupid minicamp video and they are saying he was probably hurt. fans are stupid af. his arm has always been fine post surgery. '23 he had plenty of zip, looked great.

You may be misremembering that though. I know I saw a lot of folks talking about it after he came back. In the Buffalo game specifically it felt like he held off on throwing a bunch of throws he normally throws without hesitation. Obviously not the best example given the weather factor and how our guys were slipping but i definitely saw his arm not looking the same as it was earlier in the season and a lot of folks felt there was going to be an announcement after the season that he'd need some work done.

I'm certainly glad that didn't happen and looking ahead to next year and beyond.