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Originally posted by DonnieDarko:
Originally posted by genus49:
I think it's hilarious that Seahawks fans danced all over social media celebrating the deal and laughing at it...only to find out that Sam Darnold has higher cap hits than Brock lol

isn't he like 4-1 against them? lol

i think where seattle falls short is we have kyle shanahan coaching this team. seattle has joe mac blow. now maybe he will be a good coach in the league. i don't know. all i know he's a 1 year guy who failed to make the playoffs. seattle was special for a long time (or at least successful) cuz of pete carroll. he built that whole operation. so we know we have a good HC, and they don't.
Originally posted by genus49:
Let's try to get back to Brock and make another thread in NFL Talk if we want to discuss the issues of rising salaries in the NFL.

Good watch here from a well respected guy. Sums up well why some of us think Brock gets overlooked despite doing some really impressive things that allow his physical limitations not show up as much


if running kyle's system was SOoo easy, Brock wouldn't have been our QB lol

national media pundits don't seem to understand this
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by Isosceles:
I kinda get what CatchMaster80 is saying. I don't think he's necessarily worrying about what players make. Of course the man can speak for himself. But what I'm feeling, from what he's writing, is that changes in the sport, like skyrocking salaries, or whatever, are slowly taking away from what he's been used to and has enjoyed in his life. (as I read what he says).
As an example (hopefully valid example): A long time ago, a certain element of the NBA became a bit too much for me, as compared to how the game was when I was growing up watching it. So I boycotted watching NBA game for several years. As much as I love basketball, I just didn't need what I felt I was getting at the time. I'm back again, and I'm pretty much loving it again.

It's capitalism, demand goes up price goes up. That's all. NFL is making more money than ever (thank you fans). Revenue goes up, players piece of the pie (the cap) goes up, contracts go up. Owners have to spend the money.

I loved the NBA growing up, it wasn't so much the $$ that made me go elsewhere. It was the evolution of the game. Defense is gone. It's just shooting 3s all game. Great players control the league and force too much stuff. We don't even have real rivalries anymore. I guess for me they took a lot of the "physical" out of the NBA.

Give me the old pistons and Knicks vs the bulls. That was great basketball


Originally posted by the_dynasty:
Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
So they should get paid in the top 400 of all earners in America. Just for playing a sport? Like I said i love sports but damn ther ehas to be some limits put on this. It's not a sustainable businwess model when salaries are escalating at these rates. Don't keep believing they'll be able to sign players around him and win a SB. Players that get signed for bottom dollars aren't the type that you build a winning team with. Top free agents cost a lot so you're left with building through the draft. That's fine if you hit on over 50% of your picks but most teams don't. Unless they fall on hard times and have 2 or 3 bad years in a row where they are picking in the top 10.

No business is immune from inflationary pressures. Sooner of later ther league and players have to come to an agreement. Put some caps on what certain positions can earn just like they do for rookies. Ifd they don't we'll be seeing $100 million QBs and $60 million WRs within a few years.
Last time I checked, in capitalism supply and demand dictate the price

The NFL rakes in cash, so who out of the teams should get that money ? Do you think the owner should get all the money and players should be playing for 100k or something ? Why would anyone be a NFL player then ? The pay is trash, you get CTE risk on any play, you have to forego real education, etc etc.

Do you think a youtube streamer who plays video games all day long should be getting 500k salary just for sitting down and broadcasting his streams playing video games?
The answer here is that no one cares what anyone thinks "should" get, if there is demand, they will get that salary and then some if theyre popular. If there is a demand and 30k+ people simultaneously watch the streamer why shouldnt he/she make money ?

Who in your world defines the word "should" anyway ? Who decides on this ?


It's not a sustainable business model when salaries are escalating at these rates.
the salaries are rising because NFL revenue is growing. scarcity at some positions exacerbate the salaries. I dont see how its an "unsustainable business model" when the NFL makes a ton of revenue and a ton of profit. Unlike public valuation companies where you have lots of inflated bubbles, NFL is an actual established product that many people enjoy consuming.
Don't keep believing they'll be able to sign players around him and win a SB. Players that get signed for bottom dollars aren't the type that you build a winning team with. Top free agents cost a lot so you're left with building through the draft. That's fine if you hit on over 50% of your picks but most teams don't. Unless they fall on hard times and have 2 or 3 bad years in a row where they are picking in the top 10.

now the narrative has shifted from the "they making too much money for my taste" to "its not sustainable" to "they cant build around him".

Jalen Hurts signed a less friendly team deal and Eagles afterwards had no problem drafting good players, signing good players, getting good coaches or winning the SB. Literally, the Eagles just won a SB with a QB who signed a worse (from team standpoint) deal.

All I'm saying is tge current system of I want more than the last guy isn't sustainable. I've lived long enough to see some of the biggest companies in the US go bankrupt. Boxing and horse racing were once top draws in American sports. Where are they now? Nothing lasts forever. When prices for fans get too high they start to look elsawhere for entertainment. A few years ago nobody would have predicted that salaries would be where they are now. It's not just because the league os popular. It was already filling stadiums when players were making far less.

I know they made some adjustments for retired players but they should be getting a larger piece of the pie since they helped build the league. Spreading ther money around in the ultimate team game would make sense fewer players leaving for more money would resault in more continuity and better play. If ther owners are making so much money then why have a cap at all? Let everyone get paid.
Originally posted by genus49:
Let's try to get back to Brock and make another thread in NFL Talk if we want to discuss the issues of rising salaries in the NFL.

Good watch here from a well respected guy. Sums up well why some of us think Brock gets overlooked despite doing some really impressive things that allow his physical limitations not show up as much

Agree
Originally posted by DonnieDarko:
Originally posted by genus49:
I think it's hilarious that Seahawks fans danced all over social media celebrating the deal and laughing at it...only to find out that Sam Darnold has higher cap hits than Brock lol

isn't he like 4-1 against them? lol

5-1 if you count the playoffs…which I do lol
Originally posted by genus49:
Let's try to get back to Brock and make another thread in NFL Talk if we want to discuss the issues of rising salaries in the NFL.

Good watch here from a well respected guy. Sums up well why some of us think Brock gets overlooked despite doing some really impressive things that allow his physical limitations not show up as much


Cossell knows his s**t. Really, anyone that knows their s**t, loves what Purdy brings to the position. Anyone that takes the time to what all his snaps, and study the film, knows he's a guy that would be great in any team's system. Former QBs like JTO and Chase Daniel gush when they put on Purdy's tape and see him throw with anticipation and accuracy the way he does on a consistent basis. Clearly Purdy sees the field and processes the game at an elite level. We're so unbelievably fortunate to have him as our QB.
Man the more I read into this contract structure - what a HUGE win/win. It seems like after the first 4 years, it's set to be restructured, it's essentially a 4 year deal that offers a ton of flexibility to the 49ers and gets Brock paid.
Originally posted by tankle104:
Man the more I read into this contract structure - what a HUGE win/win. It seems like after the first 4 years, it's set to be restructured, it's essentially a 4 year deal that offers a ton of flexibility to the 49ers and gets Brock paid.

I'd think after 3 years you should look for something (instead of 4 yrs),...no?

Release After 2027:
• Net increase of about $25.5M in cap space in 2028
• Net increase of about $56.5M in cap space in 2029 (with further relief in later years, including an $11M relief in 2031)

Release After 2028:
No cap relief in 2028 (the full $57.62M active hit is incurred)
• In 2029, the net cap space increase would be smaller—roughly estimated in the $40–45M range—because more of his guarantee has been "used up" by staying through 2028
• Subsequent years (2030, 2031) would see little to no extra relief compared to the earlier release scenario

After a certain point you might as well ride it out.
Originally posted by tankle104:

100% this. Well said.

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
All I'm saying is tge current system of I want more than the last guy isn't sustainable. I've lived long enough to see some of the biggest companies in the US go bankrupt. Boxing and horse racing were once top draws in American sports. Where are they now? Nothing lasts forever. When prices for fans get too high they start to look elsawhere for entertainment. A few years ago nobody would have predicted that salaries would be where they are now. It's not just because the league os popular. It was already filling stadiums when players were making far less.

I know they made some adjustments for retired players but they should be getting a larger piece of the pie since they helped build the league. Spreading ther money around in the ultimate team game would make sense fewer players leaving for more money would resault in more continuity and better play. If ther owners are making so much money then why have a cap at all? Let everyone get paid.

Lol the NFL is bigger than ever, fans aren't going anywhere. Ppl will gladly keep spend their money on this beloved American sport. And hockey too, which is probably more popular than ever in America.

Spreading money around..lol yeah, obviously, that ain't how capitalism works here in Murica. Like it or not, that is how the system is. So, ppl won't be getting even slices of pie, to think it's possible otherwise, is not realistic. Ppl love to buy s**t more than ever in this country too, consumerism is probably at an all time high..the market is booming for luxury goods rn..and they keep raising prices --cause ppl will pay for it. Maybe it's a bounce back from covid..ppl couldn't go out and enjoy anything..now, it's how can I buy all of this extra s**t, do all this extra stuff..cause I can? Things might settle down over the next few years, who knows. But this is America we are talking about lol.. it's capitalism and consumerism...is it sustainable? Idk but I might have to go the NFL shop and think about that for a while lol
this is hilarious

im curious what brocks rate is over the last 3 years. It felt like, to me, that he was checking down way less this year. I wonder if it had to do with who the running back options were (at least with Mason). Mason did make some nice grabs but it seemed like rb passes had a steep drop off without CMC.
Originally posted by tankle104:
this is hilarious

Fans have a hard time understanding the oline significantly improved last season compared to '23
Purdah has now played 2.5 NFL season as a starter and he has amassed a top ten QB resume in terms of wins and statistics in this league. Yes it has been on these teams with these rosters and these coaches but facts are facts. This team could have went and found another trigger man but they didn't. They started and have now PAID one Brock Purdy

I don't know why people like to live in fantasy instead of dealing with the reality. It is NOT a stretch to consider Brock Purdy a top ten QB based off what he's actually done. I'm not talking about how he looks or where he was drafted. I'm talking about on the gridiron on Sundays

He deserved to start and he deserves what he's paid and we have bigger worries on this team than the QB so if you're a 49er fan you should be relieved Brock Fred and George took a mature route to contract extensions so early this offseason
Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
All I'm saying is tge current system of I want more than the last guy isn't sustainable. I've lived long enough to see some of the biggest companies in the US go bankrupt. Boxing and horse racing were once top draws in American sports. Where are they now? Nothing lasts forever. When prices for fans get too high they start to look elsawhere for entertainment. A few years ago nobody would have predicted that salaries would be where they are now. It's not just because the league os popular. It was already filling stadiums when players were making far less.

I know they made some adjustments for retired players but they should be getting a larger piece of the pie since they helped build the league. Spreading ther money around in the ultimate team game would make sense fewer players leaving for more money would resault in more continuity and better play. If ther owners are making so much money then why have a cap at all? Let everyone get paid.

Revenue will perpetually rise and salaries will along with them.

If for some reason the NFL reven ue drops things might change but there is no sign of it happening, especially with the NFL pushing sucker bets on it's fans with the in game parlay bonanza.

The owners have a cap to dampen salaries and increase profits. Players get 48% of the revenue.

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