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QB Brock Purdy Thread

Originally posted by braap49er:

i don't believe this story for one bit. I call BS.

I don't see anything wrong with starting with an unrealistic number in a negotiation. Seems normal. Though I do know that if a report came out that our initial offer was around 40m/year people would freak out about us trying to lowball him.
Originally posted by 49ers808:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Brock's favorite QB Dan Marino had an elite arm. Elway had an elite arm.

I don't think it's ridiculous to talk about "arm strength" when discussing a position whose job is throwing a football lol.

Arm strength overall is a god given ability along with mechanics. You don't go from having a weak arm to having an elite level arm. It's not about having a physically "strong" or "beefy" arm either. It's not like Goff is gonna turn into Lamar Jackson as a runner if he does some squats lol.

Brock is never gonna have a special arm. Just isn't. That's okay, we don't need to defend him there or pretend it's a meaningless trait. He clearly has other skill sets that got him to where he is. Arm strength isn't the only requirement for being a good QB.

Excellent post and sums it all up

Yeah I don't know why some fans get so defensive when it gets brought up. Is what it is.

What he lacks in arm strength, he had to make up for it in processing and anticipation.
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Originally posted by TheWooLick:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
You can't have perfect everything all the time, especially in sports. If the only way our QB can show up in those late game comebacks is with an all-star roster. Then he shouldn't be getting paid a quarter billion dollars.

We're in the QB thread talking about the QB. If you want to deflect and say kyle's play calling is the reason he's tossing these late game INTs, then let's go in the HC thread and discuss it. All I ever stated was no that's complete nonsense…the QB plays a massive part in success and failure for a team. No, the play calling isn't the complete reason he's not making the plays late in games.

dude, SF was going to SBs with the Jake Brendel's of the world all the same. Last I checked he was the center when they were scoring more points than anyone in 2023. Brock's overall pressured numbers were actually down in 2024 compared to 2023. Yes they need better there, end of the day the QB matters a whole s**t load more than any center and constantly deflecting to the center being bad as to why our QB tosses a INT is dumb.

Yes there's a ton of context, but people saying it was all scheme, all OL or all WR play as to why Brock wasn't 2023 good, is simply not true. He plays a MASSIVE part in if he's good or not. That shouldn't be a hot take. Why can't folks accept that?

and I want to make it crystal clear, I'm glad he got signed. Good fair deal. He's a good young QB. We need better play in those late game drives. That's when a QB is suppose to separate himself from everyone else and be great. We should expect that from him at this point going forward.

Brock wasn't 2023 good because Trent, CMC, Aiyuk were all completely useless.

false. his passes notably lacked zip and that has zero to do with supporting cast.

You're a broken record with this stuff man. Where are you pulling this from? The only time that came up was after he came back from the shoulder injury and clearly they weren't concerned.

Meanwhile Jake Brendel was out there wrecking plays by himself before Brock finished his drops on many a play. And a DC that Kyle selected was blowing leads like nothing.

Brock had his share of faults of course but overall Kyle for some reason avoided the easy button in regards to playcalling early in the year and only started trying to make things easier way too late - after Brock's injury, all the OL injuries and after we lost Aiyuk, CMC and Mason.

If we're being real there was a lot more problems last year as a result of 49ers coaching/personnel decisions than Brock's play. But that's in the past. Hopefully they're all going back in the right direction so we can finally win another Lombardi and a few more with this QB/HC combo.
Originally posted by Niners99:
Originally posted by braap49er:

i don't believe this story for one bit. I call BS.

I believe they started at 65 because they knew SF would try to lowball him. What I don't believe is that nobody wanted Purdy. He would be an upgrade at QB for at least 24 teams.

He would be an upgrade for a lot of teams. I don't know if a lot of those teams would have traded and paid him what we did. His skill set matches what our HC likes and needs to run his system. We will continue to win a bunch of games with Brock. Really that all that matters.

and of course they asked for $65M. Why wouldn't they?
Originally posted by genus49:
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Originally posted by TheWooLick:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
You can't have perfect everything all the time, especially in sports. If the only way our QB can show up in those late game comebacks is with an all-star roster. Then he shouldn't be getting paid a quarter billion dollars.

We're in the QB thread talking about the QB. If you want to deflect and say kyle's play calling is the reason he's tossing these late game INTs, then let's go in the HC thread and discuss it. All I ever stated was no that's complete nonsense…the QB plays a massive part in success and failure for a team. No, the play calling isn't the complete reason he's not making the plays late in games.

dude, SF was going to SBs with the Jake Brendel's of the world all the same. Last I checked he was the center when they were scoring more points than anyone in 2023. Brock's overall pressured numbers were actually down in 2024 compared to 2023. Yes they need better there, end of the day the QB matters a whole s**t load more than any center and constantly deflecting to the center being bad as to why our QB tosses a INT is dumb.

Yes there's a ton of context, but people saying it was all scheme, all OL or all WR play as to why Brock wasn't 2023 good, is simply not true. He plays a MASSIVE part in if he's good or not. That shouldn't be a hot take. Why can't folks accept that?

and I want to make it crystal clear, I'm glad he got signed. Good fair deal. He's a good young QB. We need better play in those late game drives. That's when a QB is suppose to separate himself from everyone else and be great. We should expect that from him at this point going forward.

Brock wasn't 2023 good because Trent, CMC, Aiyuk were all completely useless.

false. his passes notably lacked zip and that has zero to do with supporting cast.

You're a broken record with this stuff man. Where are you pulling this from? The only time that came up was after he came back from the shoulder injury and clearly they weren't concerned.

Meanwhile Jake Brendel was out there wrecking plays by himself before Brock finished his drops on many a play. And a DC that Kyle selected was blowing leads like nothing.

Brock had his share of faults of course but overall Kyle for some reason avoided the easy button in regards to playcalling early in the year and only started trying to make things easier way too late - after Brock's injury, all the OL injuries and after we lost Aiyuk, CMC and Mason.

If we're being real there was a lot more problems last year as a result of 49ers coaching/personnel decisions than Brock's play. But that's in the past. Hopefully they're all going back in the right direction so we can finally win another Lombardi and a few more with this QB/HC combo.

i am being accurate genus. saying brock's 2024 faults were entirely on Trent, CMC and BA, that's not accurate, and you should know that. the arm strength or as you say shoulder injury has nothing to do with supporting cast. i was giving an example of something that is entirely related to brock, not his teammates. you say yourself, he had a 'shoulder injury'. does that not explain at least partially why he's not as good as 2023? it does, and you should know it. yet you jump on my posts, for no reason.
Originally posted by genus49:
You're a broken record with this stuff man. Where are you pulling this from? The only time that came up was after he came back from the shoulder injury and clearly they weren't concerned.

Meanwhile Jake Brendel was out there wrecking plays by himself before Brock finished his drops on many a play. And a DC that Kyle selected was blowing leads like nothing.

Brock had his share of faults of course but overall Kyle for some reason avoided the easy button in regards to playcalling early in the year and only started trying to make things easier way too late - after Brock's injury, all the OL injuries and after we lost Aiyuk, CMC and Mason.

If we're being real there was a lot more problems last year as a result of 49ers coaching/personnel decisions than Brock's play. But that's in the past. Hopefully they're all going back in the right direction so we can finally win another Lombardi and a few more with this QB/HC combo.

What was the easy button that he was refusing to press?
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
i am being accurate genus. saying brock's 2024 faults were entirely on Trent, CMC and BA, that's not accurate, and you should know that. the arm strength or as you say shoulder injury has nothing to do with supporting cast. i was giving an example of something that is entirely related to brock, not his teammates. you say yourself, he had a 'shoulder injury'. does that not explain at least partially why he's not as good as 2023? it does, and you should know it. yet you jump on my posts, for no reason.

I mean is he blaming a shoulder injury on his arm strength at Iowa State as well? He's never had a plus arm…it's serviceable, but he relied on other skills to get him to where he is.

it's weird people downplay the talent around him in 2023 and then use the lack of talent around him in 2024 as to why he wasn't as good…the truth is somewhere in the middle.
What you sought and wanted doesn't matter. Agents and a player always seek something. It's their side starting point in negotiations. It doesn't matter or mean anything.
Originally posted by NYniner85:
What was the easy button that he was refusing to press?

I can't speak for anyone else, and in fact, I dunno if this is even true, but I think there was a lot less play action last year than there was in 2023. Perhaps it was Kyle wanting to see more fall on Brock's shoulders. This in general is an area I wish/don't wish to see. I'd love to see how Brock can handle the passing game knowing the opposing defenses can simply gear up to stop the pass/ignore the rushing attack. Obviously however, it wouldn't be so great if Kyle couldn't design a top 5 running game year in, year out.....because that has set up the table offensively for SF during his tenure.
One of those CLOWN SHOW HOT TAKES shows was saying because Jimmy G made the Super Bowl Purdy isn't that good. I forget which one. How could you possibly watch Jimmy G and Purdy and think that's the same guy? Purdy is more athletic scrambling around and can buy time. He has better timing, anticipation, decision making, accuracy. Brock can throw the deep ball with accuracy. He just doesn't have a cannon. But he's an accurate thrower down the field.

The Jimmy G team was built for DEFENSE. They would hide him. Sometimes only allowing 8 throws. Through age, injuries, FA departures the defense got a lot worse. This is more offense driven with Purdy. Our defense may be coming back up with the draft. But they are not the same player and not on the same team.

Apparently these guys watch 1 game a year. The Super Bowl. If Jimmy G and Purdy played there and were on the 49ers they are the same guy. I guess that's the "logic."

[ Edited by SanDiego49er on May 20, 2025 at 9:31 AM ]
Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
One of those CLOWN SHOW HOT TAKES shows was saying because Jimmy G made the Super Bowl Purdy isn't that good. I forget which one. How could you possibly watch Jimmy G and Purdy and think that's the same guy. Purdy is more athletic scrambling around and can buy time. He has better timing, anticipation, decision making, accuracy. Brock can throw the deep ball with accuracy. He just doesn't have a cannon. But he's an accurate thrower down the field.

The Jimmy G team was built for DEFENSE. They would hide him. Sometimes only allowing 8 throws. Through age, injuries, FA departures the defense got a lot worse. This is more offense driven with Purdy. Our defense may be coming back up with the draft. But they are not the same player and not on the same team.

Apparently these guys watch 1 game a year. The Super Bowl. If Jimmy G and Purdy played there and were on the 49ers they are the same guy. I guess that's the "logic."


the offense isn't driven by purdy. our MO has been to run the ball. i think the comp fits. KCs best player was mahomes. ours was the supporting cast around the QB. that's the point i think.
[ Edited by 49erFaithful6 on May 20, 2025 at 9:49 AM ]
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
One of those CLOWN SHOW HOT TAKES shows was saying because Jimmy G made the Super Bowl Purdy isn't that good. I forget which one. How could you possibly watch Jimmy G and Purdy and think that's the same guy. Purdy is more athletic scrambling around and can buy time. He has better timing, anticipation, decision making, accuracy. Brock can throw the deep ball with accuracy. He just doesn't have a cannon. But he's an accurate thrower down the field.

The Jimmy G team was built for DEFENSE. They would hide him. Sometimes only allowing 8 throws. Through age, injuries, FA departures the defense got a lot worse. This is more offense driven with Purdy. Our defense may be coming back up with the draft. But they are not the same player and not on the same team.

Apparently these guys watch 1 game a year. The Super Bowl. If Jimmy G and Purdy played there and were on the 49ers they are the same guy. I guess that's the "logic."


the offense isn't driven by purdy. our MO has been to run the ball. i think the comp fits. KCs best player was mahomes. ours was the supporting cast around the QB. that's the point i think.

This is a much different team and player though both. We lost a lot of guys from that Jimmy G team. FA departures. In particular Buckner has never been replaced. Maybe this year in the 2nd round. At least as a run stopper. The pass rush is not the same. That defensive front 7 was dominant though (Jimmy G team). I can't say the same with this one. We lost Buckner, Armstead, Greenlaw. We are hoping that a lot of draft picks make up the difference. Some of them work out. Some of them bust. You never know. I hope we had a monster draft. On paper it looks really good. How it transfers to the field remains to be seen.

Purdy is more athletic than the statue Jimmy G. He also has better processing, timing, anticipation, decision making, accuracy. He's light years better as a down the field thrower. He doesn't have a cannon like Allen or Herbert. But he can hit with accuracy down the field. Jimmy G can't hit beyond 10 - 15 yards.

This is not the same team. Certainly not the same player. By any measure if you just watch the games Purdy is the more skilled QB. I don't think that's a close call.
Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
One of those CLOWN SHOW HOT TAKES shows was saying because Jimmy G made the Super Bowl Purdy isn't that good. I forget which one. How could you possibly watch Jimmy G and Purdy and think that's the same guy. Purdy is more athletic scrambling around and can buy time. He has better timing, anticipation, decision making, accuracy. Brock can throw the deep ball with accuracy. He just doesn't have a cannon. But he's an accurate thrower down the field.

The Jimmy G team was built for DEFENSE. They would hide him. Sometimes only allowing 8 throws. Through age, injuries, FA departures the defense got a lot worse. This is more offense driven with Purdy. Our defense may be coming back up with the draft. But they are not the same player and not on the same team.

Apparently these guys watch 1 game a year. The Super Bowl. If Jimmy G and Purdy played there and were on the 49ers they are the same guy. I guess that's the "logic."


the offense isn't driven by purdy. our MO has been to run the ball. i think the comp fits. KCs best player was mahomes. ours was the supporting cast around the QB. that's the point i think.

This is a much different team and player though both. We lost a lot of guys from that Jimmy G team. FA departures. In particular Buckner has never been replaced. Maybe this year in the 2nd round. At least as a run stopper. The pass rush is not the same. That defensive front 7 was dominant though (Jimmy G team). I can't say the same with this one. We lost Buckner, Armstead, Greenlaw. We are hoping that a lot of draft picks make up the difference. Some of them work out. Some of them bust. You never know. I hope we had a monster draft. On paper it looks really good. How it transfers to the field remains to be seen.

Purdy is more athletic than the statue Jimmy G. He also has better processing, timing, anticipation, decision making, accuracy. He's light years better as a down the field thrower. He doesn't have a cannon like Allen or Herbert. But he can hit with accuracy down the field. Jimmy G can't hit beyond 10 - 15 yards.

This is not the same team. Certainly not the same player. By any measure if you just watch the games Purdy is the more skilled QB. I don't think that's a close call.

No one takes you seriously because you were one of the biggest Jimmy homers on this forum
Originally posted by GoreGoreGore:
Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
One of those CLOWN SHOW HOT TAKES shows was saying because Jimmy G made the Super Bowl Purdy isn't that good. I forget which one. How could you possibly watch Jimmy G and Purdy and think that's the same guy. Purdy is more athletic scrambling around and can buy time. He has better timing, anticipation, decision making, accuracy. Brock can throw the deep ball with accuracy. He just doesn't have a cannon. But he's an accurate thrower down the field.

The Jimmy G team was built for DEFENSE. They would hide him. Sometimes only allowing 8 throws. Through age, injuries, FA departures the defense got a lot worse. This is more offense driven with Purdy. Our defense may be coming back up with the draft. But they are not the same player and not on the same team.

Apparently these guys watch 1 game a year. The Super Bowl. If Jimmy G and Purdy played there and were on the 49ers they are the same guy. I guess that's the "logic."


the offense isn't driven by purdy. our MO has been to run the ball. i think the comp fits. KCs best player was mahomes. ours was the supporting cast around the QB. that's the point i think.

This is a much different team and player though both. We lost a lot of guys from that Jimmy G team. FA departures. In particular Buckner has never been replaced. Maybe this year in the 2nd round. At least as a run stopper. The pass rush is not the same. That defensive front 7 was dominant though (Jimmy G team). I can't say the same with this one. We lost Buckner, Armstead, Greenlaw. We are hoping that a lot of draft picks make up the difference. Some of them work out. Some of them bust. You never know. I hope we had a monster draft. On paper it looks really good. How it transfers to the field remains to be seen.

Purdy is more athletic than the statue Jimmy G. He also has better processing, timing, anticipation, decision making, accuracy. He's light years better as a down the field thrower. He doesn't have a cannon like Allen or Herbert. But he can hit with accuracy down the field. Jimmy G can't hit beyond 10 - 15 yards.

This is not the same team. Certainly not the same player. By any measure if you just watch the games Purdy is the more skilled QB. I don't think that's a close call.

No one takes you seriously because you were one of the biggest Jimmy homers on this forum

This!!!!!

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Purdy > Jimmy G

That's not a close call or even arguable. Jimmy had flaws. Everyone can see that. Purdy is a much better but not perfect player. He's the best we have had here in years and years. You would have to go back a long way to find something equivalent or better.
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