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Originally posted by Wolf_Packer_53:
WTH does EPA even mean? Seriously do not know.

Means arm strength doesn't matter

Originally posted by NYniner85:
Bingo. That's what arm strength is and why he relies on anticipation and timing a little more than others. If him and the player aren't on the same page or if he a little off, like you said pick six.

He doesn't get the luxury of waiting to see someone open and slinging it like Allen or Mahomes. I think part of his issue there is he does have that gunslinger mindset, he just doesn't have the proper gun lol.

Meh, ever since Farve I think? Ppl have been obsessed with arm strength. But did Favre have Brock's quads? Lol. I mean, it's normal to strengthen after an injury as there is usually weakness after such..I think this is partly what Brock was talking about when he was strengthening his arm. His arms did get more beefy, we all noticed..did it make a huge difference? I mean..I think there were even some complaining that because he put extra beef on..his accuracy was somehow now off. Just no pleasing some ppl. Ppl talking about arm strength like the size one's ..who the heck cares as long as it gets the job done
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I dont usually get into the WZ circle jerks anymore, but it's actually funny this is coming up bc I been watching a YouTube highlight video the past few days. It's 4 hours of deep passes for TDs from 2010 to 2019. Most of the deep passes travel about 45-55 yards in the air. And the only real way to measure arm strength on the field is how hard you can throw it. There's probably a dozen guys easy I could name off the top of my head that I forgot all about being in the NFL. They didn't get to their second contract as an staring NFL QB even though they're on the highlight video throwing multiple deep TDs 50-60+ yards down the field (I swear the Titans and Bills had a new QB every year and are on the highlight video a ton). Meanwhile Purdy just made 50 mil on his second contract as a starter. So what does that tell you?

Fine. Purdy has the weakest arm in the NFL. But despite his puny arm somehow once he became our QB we started throwing the ball downfield more. It was a constant criticism with JG that went away almost immediately once Purdy became our QB. Who had the stronger arm, JG or Purdy?

Arm strength is important, but to focus on it so acutely is silly when everybody knows there's a million other things that go into being a good QB. My guess is that it's Purdy's only real glaring weakness so people want to focus on it. But, on the field, nobody can point to how it (by itaelf) has actually hindered us with any real empirical evidence.

i don't believe this story for one bit. I call BS.
Originally posted by braap49er:

i don't believe this story for one bit. I call BS.

It's possible that the agent threw that number out there as a starting point knowing that there was no way the 49ers would go for it. Then he can come down and make it look like he's willing to budge.
Originally posted by braap49er:

i don't believe this story for one bit. I call BS.

Why? It makes sense. You always ask high.
Originally posted by fropwns:
Originally posted by braap49er:

i don't believe this story for one bit. I call BS.

Why? It makes sense. You always ask high.

Because it contradicts everything he said in January. I'm having a hard time believing it.
Originally posted by Montana:
Means arm strength doesn't matter

Meh, ever since Farve I think? Ppl have been obsessed with arm strength. But did Favre have Brock's quads? Lol. I mean, it's normal to strengthen after an injury as there is usually weakness after such..I think this is partly what Brock was talking about when he was strengthening his arm. His arms did get more beefy, we all noticed..did it make a huge difference? I mean..I think there were even some complaining that because he put extra beef on..his accuracy was somehow now off. Just no pleasing some ppl. Ppl talking about arm strength like the size one's ..who the heck cares as long as it gets the job done

Brock's favorite QB Dan Marino had an elite arm. Elway had an elite arm.

I don't think it's ridiculous to talk about "arm strength" when discussing a position whose job is throwing a football lol.

Arm strength overall is a god given ability along with mechanics. You don't go from having a weak arm to having an elite level arm. It's not about having a physically "strong" or "beefy" arm either. It's not like Goff is gonna turn into Lamar Jackson as a runner if he does some squats lol.

Brock is never gonna have a special arm. Just isn't. That's okay, we don't need to defend him there or pretend it's a meaningless trait. He clearly has other skill sets that got him to where he is. Arm strength isn't the only requirement for being a good QB.
[ Edited by NYniner85 on May 20, 2025 at 9:05 AM ]
Originally posted by braap49er:
Originally posted by fropwns:
Originally posted by braap49er:

i don't believe this story for one bit. I call BS.

Why? It makes sense. You always ask high.

Because it contradicts everything he said in January. I'm having a hard time believing it.

Hard to say what is real but I don't like the angle Schefter took.

Its kind of a click bait-ish narrative that when read fully makes total sense.

the trade angle is goofy. A road no one was going to go down so why even say it?
Originally posted by Crown:
Originally posted by braap49er:
Originally posted by fropwns:
Originally posted by braap49er:

i don't believe this story for one bit. I call BS.

Why? It makes sense. You always ask high.

Because it contradicts everything he said in January. I'm having a hard time believing it.

Hard to say what is real but I don't like the angle Schefter took.

Its kind of a click bait-ish narrative that when read fully makes total sense.

the trade angle is goofy. A road no one was going to go down so why even say it?

Agreed, the trade angle is even worse. Must be desperate for content.
Originally posted by Montana:
Originally posted by Wolf_Packer_53:
WTH does EPA even mean? Seriously do not know.

Means arm strength doesn't matter

Originally posted by NYniner85:
Bingo. That's what arm strength is and why he relies on anticipation and timing a little more than others. If him and the player aren't on the same page or if he a little off, like you said pick six.

He doesn't get the luxury of waiting to see someone open and slinging it like Allen or Mahomes. I think part of his issue there is he does have that gunslinger mindset, he just doesn't have the proper gun lol.

Meh, ever since Farve I think? Ppl have been obsessed with arm strength. But did Favre have Brock's quads? Lol. I mean, it's normal to strengthen after an injury as there is usually weakness after such..I think this is partly what Brock was talking about when he was strengthening his arm. His arms did get more beefy, we all noticed..did it make a huge difference? I mean..I think there were even some complaining that because he put extra beef on..his accuracy was somehow now off. Just no pleasing some ppl. Ppl talking about arm strength like the size one's ..who the heck cares as long as it gets the job done

Back in the day, people called Dan Marino the tools guy with the huge arm, while Joe Montana won Super Bowls. That said, people still raise questions because they want to see a quarterback's on-field results match his perceived ability. If Brock doesn't perform, critics will say, "See, we knew he wasn't elite." Brock had an up-and-down season last year, which left questions unanswered and added risk to his profile. So the question becomes: would you rather have him than Goff or Tua? How would Brock perform in Philadelphia's offense behind that offensive line? These are interesting questions, and they help explain why his contract sits where it does. The market rate is what it is.
[ Edited by bzborow1 on May 20, 2025 at 7:59 AM ]
Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
Originally posted by braap49er:

i don't believe this story for one bit. I call BS.

It's possible that the agent threw that number out there as a starting point knowing that there was no way the 49ers would go for it. Then he can come down and make it look like he's willing to budge.

I mean, yeah. That's negotiating 101.
Originally posted by captveg:
Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
Originally posted by braap49er:

i don't believe this story for one bit. I call BS.

It's possible that the agent threw that number out there as a starting point knowing that there was no way the 49ers would go for it. Then he can come down and make it look like he's willing to budge.

I mean, yeah. That's negotiating 101.
Especially if the 49ers started low. No teams interested in trading for him seems crazy and I don't know which side would benefit from that leaking. Neither side wanted a trade, makes purdy look like a bad commodity with low value, and 49ers look bad to pay highish contract to player nobody wanted.
Originally posted by braap49er:

i don't believe this story for one bit. I call BS.

I believe they started at 65 because they knew SF would try to lowball him. What I don't believe is that nobody wanted Purdy. He would be an upgrade at QB for at least 24 teams.
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Brock's favorite QB Dan Marino had an elite arm. Elway had an elite arm.

I don't think it's ridiculous to talk about "arm strength" when discussing a position whose job is throwing a football lol.

Arm strength overall is a god given ability along with mechanics. You don't go from having a weak arm to having an elite level arm. It's not about having a physically "strong" or "beefy" arm either. It's not like Goff is gonna turn into Lamar Jackson as a runner if he does some pushups lol.

Brock is never gonna have a special arm. Just isn't. That's okay, we don't need to defend him there or pretend it's a meaningless trait. He clearly has other skill sets that got him to where he is. Arm strength isn't the only requirement for being a good QB.

Excellent post and sums it all up
Originally posted by Niners99:
I believe they started at 65 because they knew SF would try to lowball him. What I don't believe is that nobody wanted Purdy. He would be an upgrade at QB for at least 24 teams.

Seems to be a report to stir controversy where none exists.

Would teams really be actively trying to trade for a QB that was under contract and in good standing with his current team. Do you think teams will be calling the Texans, trying to trade for Stroud next offseason? Doubtful, unless Stroud and the Texans have a falling out.

The fact Schefter uses one exec's opinion, that Purdy is basically a system QB, is just adding fuel to the same old b******t. I'm sure other teams see Purdy in a better light, even if they aren't trying to trade for him. Just manufactured drama.

I want Purdy to succeed because he's our QB, but also, I want him to succeed to shut up this constant stream of people like Florio and Coward who can't f**king fathom this kid being a legit top-tier QB.
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