QB Brock Purdy Thread

Idk why it bothers anyone what talking heads say - they're saying absurd stuff just to get a rise out of fans for engagement stats.

anyone who follows the 49ers, or is a rational NFL fan, knows this is a solid deal all around. It's a win for Brock and for the 49ers.

personally, I prefer it when people doubt your team instead of saying nothing but good stuff. Players keep up with the news, so I want them to feel disrespected instead of comfortable.

another deal done, now with warner. things are going well. all the studs are getting locked up, the draft went well and the schedule went very well. i wonder now if we see an opening cuz of how things are going, and we make a move for a real corner.

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
another deal done, now with warner. things are going well. all the studs are getting locked up, the draft went well and the schedule went very well. i wonder now if we see an opening cuz of how things are going, and we make a move for a real corner.

Front office is on a roll! The draft is looking really good, resigning our key guys and doing it early! Not even OTAs and all of this crap is outta the way.

its just football from here on out!!

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by TheWooLick:

Originally posted by NYniner85:
You can't have perfect everything all the time, especially in sports. If the only way our QB can show up in those late game comebacks is with an all-star roster. Then he shouldn't be getting paid a quarter billion dollars.

We're in the QB thread talking about the QB. If you want to deflect and say kyle's play calling is the reason he's tossing these late game INTs, then let's go in the HC thread and discuss it. All I ever stated was no that's complete nonsense…the QB plays a massive part in success and failure for a team. No, the play calling isn't the complete reason he's not making the plays late in games.

dude, SF was going to SBs with the Jake Brendel's of the world all the same. Last I checked he was the center when they were scoring more points than anyone in 2023. Brock's overall pressured numbers were actually down in 2024 compared to 2023. Yes they need better there, end of the day the QB matters a whole s**t load more than any center and constantly deflecting to the center being bad as to why our QB tosses a INT is dumb.

Yes there's a ton of context, but people saying it was all scheme, all OL or all WR play as to why Brock wasn't 2023 good, is simply not true. He plays a MASSIVE part in if he's good or not. That shouldn't be a hot take. Why can't folks accept that?

and I want to make it crystal clear, I'm glad he got signed. Good fair deal. He's a good young QB. We need better play in those late game drives. That's when a QB is suppose to separate himself from everyone else and be great. We should expect that from him at this point going forward.

Brock wasn't 2023 good because Trent, CMC, Aiyuk were all completely useless.

false. his passes notably lacked zip and that has zero to do with supporting cast.

LOL. I am curious what you used to determine that his passes lacked 'zip'. When you claim that his performance last year was a direct result of 'his passes lacked zip' I wonder what the hell you did/do for a living.

Originally posted by eastie:
LOL. I am curious what you used to determine that his passes lacked 'zip'. When you claim that his performance last year was a direct result of 'his passes lacked zip' I wonder what the hell you did/do for a living.

it's called the eye test, and i had maybe 20+ different posters on here saying the same thing during the 2024 season. why are you making this a personal matter?

To me, his velocity actually improved in '24. I've never noticed this weak arm people b***h about.

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by eastie:
LOL. I am curious what you used to determine that his passes lacked 'zip'. When you claim that his performance last year was a direct result of 'his passes lacked zip' I wonder what the hell you did/do for a living.

it's called the eye test, and i had maybe 20+ different posters on here saying the same thing during the 2024 season. why are you making this a personal matter?

Personal? Brother, you are the one claiming that YOU can see something that you believe to be true, minus any facts to support your claim. You support your claim by saying "Oh, there were 20 more people that saw the very same thing". Surely 21 people wouldn't be fooled? Right?
I've been around for over seven decades and I have learned a few important things. One of the most important and surprising things was that we don't control our brains, they control us. There are plenty examples in medical journals and psychology papers that prove this. So, when you look at a QB and suspect that his passes lack zip, that is exactly what your brain will show you. It won't be what is actually happening , but you won't know that because your brain figured out that you wanted to see less zip on the ball sot that's what you got.

"about right"....

Purdy's contract is a good decision by the team for a number of reason (it's obviously good for Purdy).

1. The team had no obvious alternative for the short term (this year) that would still allow for the prospect of competing for a Superbowl.
2. The team had no obvious alternative for the medium term (next three years) that would still allow the team compete at a comparable level as Brock has competed at. The draft is an incredible crap shoot that also requires a terrible season or dangerous trade up (see the Trey Lance trade) that could still fail. The Josh Allen and Pat Mahomes picks at their draft slots is the absolute rarity. Also, few QBs that we would want become available via trade or free agency.
3. There is little opportunity cost this year for signing Brock. At worst, the team was unable to hold onto a couple overpriced free agents. But in reality his cap hit this year is very low which should result in cap rolling over to next year when the overall cap will continue to increase.
4. The APY is irrelevant. What's relevant is the percentage of the cap the contract takes up. At around 18% based on the APY, this is middle of the road. As the cap increases and when including the cap rollover, the contract will only look better as the years go by, and thus the opportunity cost will also decrease.
5. If Brock underperforms or plays poorly, the team has reasonable outs. It sounds like this is basically a 2-3 year deal. If he plays well, he and the team will likely work on another extension after year 3 or 4.
6. The team needed to reload anyway. We got very top heavy with the terrible 2022 and 2023 drafts. Because the team has no players on rookie contracts coming up for a big extension, the team can afford to front load Brock's deal so if players from 2024 and 2025 do warrant those big extensions, the team will be in a position to do so.
7. The team did not lose any of it's own players because of Brock's deal, not even Greenlaw (putting aside whether the front office screwed up the negotiation or not). The team is still paying Trent, Kittle, CMC, Aiyuk, Bosa, Warner, and Lenior to big contracts.

Originally posted by DonnieDarko:
To me, his velocity actually improved in '24. I've never noticed this weak arm people b***h about.

Right? Agree. I think ppl just talk out of their azz, just to do it lol. But all it is..is azz.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by TheWooLick:
Brock wasn't 2023 good because Trent, CMC, Aiyuk were all completely useless.

So Brock was good in 2023 because Trent, CMC. BA were there?

Originally posted by Montana:

Originally posted by DonnieDarko:
To me, his velocity actually improved in '24. I've never noticed this weak arm people b***h about.

Right? Agree. I think ppl just talk out of their azz, just to do it lol. But all it is..is azz.

You know he can play good and still lack some zip on passes to certain parts of the field. It's not talking out of their azzes,...it is that useless wall of defense you try to build for anything that's not super-positive.

Why do we whine and name-call instead of going out there and finding evidence to the contrary?

Originally posted by DonnieDarko:
To me, his velocity actually improved in '24. I've never noticed this weak arm people b***h about.

I don't think its weak but average, think the farthest I've seen him throw is 60 yards. The average is 60-70 yards for a nfl qb 80 yards is elite arm strength. So yeah you want to see a bit more strength. Hes got good enough velocity he just plays with touch and anticipation a lot which is fine but being able to push the ball deep down field is where you want a little more

Originally posted by eastie:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by eastie:
LOL. I am curious what you used to determine that his passes lacked 'zip'. When you claim that his performance last year was a direct result of 'his passes lacked zip' I wonder what the hell you did/do for a living.

it's called the eye test, and i had maybe 20+ different posters on here saying the same thing during the 2024 season. why are you making this a personal matter?

Personal? Brother, you are the one claiming that YOU can see something that you believe to be true, minus any facts to support your claim. You support your claim by saying "Oh, there were 20 more people that saw the very same thing". Surely 21 people wouldn't be fooled? Right?
I've been around for over seven decades and I have learned a few important things. One of the most important and surprising things was that we don't control our brains, they control us. There are plenty examples in medical journals and psychology papers that prove this. So, when you look at a QB and suspect that his passes lack zip, that is exactly what your brain will show you. It won't be what is actually happening , but you won't know that because your brain figured out that you wanted to see less zip on the ball sot that's what you got.

well, my brain wanted to see us win #6 for about 30 years now and i ain't seen that

Originally posted by random49er:

Originally posted by Montana:

Originally posted by DonnieDarko:
To me, his velocity actually improved in '24. I've never noticed this weak arm people b***h about.

Right? Agree. I think ppl just talk out of their azz, just to do it lol. But all it is..is azz.

You know he can play good and still lack some zip on passes to certain parts of the field. It's not talking out of their azzes,...it is that useless wall of defense you try to build for anything that's not super-positive.

Why do we whine and name-call instead of going out there and finding evidence to the contrary?

This whole topic is reminiscent of how many wobbles a pass has. It's silly, unsubstantiated noise in both instances.