QB Brock Purdy Thread

Brock has had his share of unclutch moments, but he also left the field with a lead in the sb 3 times in 4th Q & ot ...

Originally posted by frenchmov:
Brock has had his share of unclutch moments, ...

Unnecessary, backhanded comment. Have YOU ever had any untoward moments? We all have. And we don't like them being brought up because we usually beat ourselves up about them. May be best for you to find a more PERFECT QB. How about that there?

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by BOI49er:
I'm going to put the primary blame on Brock's late game interceptions on the man ultimately responsible, and that's Kyle Shanahan.

nonsense. Those were poor reads and bad throws. Forcing the ball.

I mean if you can conclude that everything poor Brock does is because of the HC, this same is true when he does something well.

End of the day he's gotta play better in those late game situations. That's when the QB play shows up the most and is needed.

Why nonsense? All of them were poor reads and bad throws? You got specifics in mind?

As I said above when in those situations and defenses know we have to throw everything speeds up and sometimes you have to be more aggressive. In a timing based offense the less chemistry you have with receivers the more likely it is that bad plays happen.

I recall several bad ones where Brock and the receiver weren't on the same page. You could tell by the body language and I believe those were called out in film review by several folks.

There is certainly blame on both sides. Expecting a guy to rise up with all the crap happening is fair since we all want the best from our QB but also not since few QBs have that ability and Brock isn't one of those guys.

Last year so much went wrong the evaluation is just really tough…unless you're Kyle Shanahan and his staff who know what actually happened on each of those bad plays and who was really at fault and how.

Originally posted by NinerTy:
Unnecessary, backhanded comment. Have YOU ever had any untoward moments? We all have. And we don't like them being brought up because we usually beat ourselves up about them. May be best for you to find a more PERFECT QB. How about that there?

The point being it's odd to absolve Brock of any poor performance and attribute it to just coaching.

Originally posted by bvc49:
How many games we lose because our coach refused to cut our FG kicker?

So he should cut Brock for end of game INTs as well?

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
You could say how many games didwe lose because Purdy couldn't get the team into the end zone and they had to settle for a FG attempt. It's a game you can play over and over.

This. Players are allowed to be accountable for bad play (or great plays). They're not robots

Originally posted by genus49:
Why nonsense? All of them were poor reads and bad throws? You got specifics in mind?

As I said above when in those situations and defenses know we have to throw everything speeds up and sometimes you have to be more aggressive. In a timing based offense the less chemistry you have with receivers the more likely it is that bad plays happen.

I recall several bad ones where Brock and the receiver weren't on the same page. You could tell by the body language and I believe those were called out in film review by several folks.

There is certainly blame on both sides. Expecting a guy to rise up with all the crap happening is fair since we all want the best from our QB but also not since few QBs have that ability and Brock isn't one of those guys.

Last year so much went wrong the evaluation is just really tough…unless you're Kyle Shanahan and his staff who know what actually happened on each of those bad plays and who was really at fault and how.

Nonsense as in, not every INTs was bad play design.

acting like a QB is free of blame in situations like that is in fact "nonsense" if everything was solely on the HC why the hell pay a QB $200M?

It's one thing to run a HCs system when everything is perfect. When you have an amazing roster and are leading most of the time. It's a whole different thing when the roster isn't great and you're not ahead in most games. That's when the top end players separate themselves.

I like Brock and I'm glad they paid him. He's gotta show he can be great in those situations, if we're gonna win it all. That shouldn't be a controversial thing to say imo.

Players are allowed to be held accountable all the same. Good bad whatever. It takes everyone to win games.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by bvc49:
How many games we lose because our coach refused to cut our FG kicker?

So he should cut Brock for end of game INTs as well?

Lol really? 3rd rounder Moody sucks ass. Or was it 2nd round? I forget. Just glad we have some competition for kicker. He just has to kick a damn ball.....Brock has many things he has to do as QB1. Not even close to a good analogy. Kickers are easily replaced...QB1 as good as Brock, hard to come by. Moody was a dumb pick. He seems to know how to boot it from far sometimes..close..what the hell is he doing? Why barely in the uprights..high as f**k in the corners? Just inching in or missing it? Ppl shouldn't have to get white ass knuckles every single time this guy has to kick. It's too much. He was a Trey Lance kicker pick..all show, no go.

Originally posted by Montana:
Lol really? 3rd rounder Moody sucks ass. Or was it 2nd round? I forget. Just glad we have some competition for kicker. He just has to kick a damn ball.....Brock has many things he has to do as QB1. Not even close to a good analogy. Kickers are easily replaced...QB1 as good as Brock, hard to come by. Moody was a dumb pick. He seems to know how to boot it from far sometimes..close..what the hell is he doing? Why barely in the uprights..high as f**k in the corners? Just inching in or missing it? Ppl shouldn't have to get white ass knuckles every single time this guy has to kick. It's too much. He was a Trey Lance kicker pick..all show, no go.

it's dumb to blame the HC for everything that's the point. It's a silly stance regardless of who you use in the analogy.

Brock is a good QB, he's not above criticism. He's HAS to play better in those end of game situations. Especially when we're losing. That shouldn't be some controversial statement.

Why are we even leaving it up to a kicker in the first place? Score TDs.

Trey Lance? Now that's a stupid analogy. Kid barely played football and had multiple injuries in that small timeframe. He should have stayed in school.

Originally posted by Montana:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by bvc49:
How many games we lose because our coach refused to cut our FG kicker?

So he should cut Brock for end of game INTs as well?

Lol really? 3rd rounder Moody sucks ass. Or was it 2nd round? I forget. Just glad we have some competition for kicker. He just has to kick a damn ball.....Brock has many things he has to do as QB1. Not even close to a good analogy. Kickers are easily replaced...QB1 as good as Brock, hard to come by. Moody was a dumb pick. He seems to know how to boot it from far sometimes..close..what the hell is he doing? Why barely in the uprights..high as f**k in the corners? Just inching in or missing it? Ppl shouldn't have to get white ass knuckles every single time this guy has to kick. It's too much. He was a Trey Lance kicker pick..all show, no go.

Moody had a terrible year last season after having a prettty decent rookie year. He started off okay last year but then he got injured and missed a few games. He wasn't the same afterward. His misses were right and left. Maybe it was lost confidence or maybe he was compensating for the injury he suffered. He's going to face competition ths year so we'll see how he does.

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
Moody had a terrible year last season after having a prettty decent rookie year. He started off okay last year but then he got injured and missed a few games. He wasn't the same afterward. His misses were right and left. Maybe it was lost confidence or maybe he was compensating for the injury he suffered. He's going to face competition ths year so we'll see how he does.

Right. It was silly to spend a top 100 pick on a kicker to begin with. Pissing away draft value and created crazy pressure on the kid. There's blame on the coaching staff and FO for that…trying to blame Kyle for the kicker mistakes and not cutting him after a yr and 1/2 is dumb. It's about as dumb as me saying they should cut Brock for backbreaking end of the game INTs.

the whole narrative of everything bad that happens is Kyle's fault and anything good is because of the players is tired and stale.

Originally posted by NYniner85:
it's dumb to blame the HC for everything that's the point. It's a silly stance regardless of who you use in the analogy.

Brock is a good QB, he's not above criticism. He's HAS to play better in those end of game situations. Especially when we're losing. That shouldn't be some controversial statement.

Why are we even leaving it up to a kicker in the first place? Score TDs.

Trey Lance? Now that's a stupid analogy. Kid barely played football and had multiple injuries in that small timeframe. He should have stayed in school.

I personally have never blamed Shanny for everything and yeah, he shouldn't be. Brock is definitely not above criticism. I have shown occasional frustration with him..rare but I have shown some lol. With Brock, he tries to force things and be the hero to try and make up for when s**t hits the fan around him. I mean, that's normal to an extent but for him..he just needs to be himself. So many things went wrong last season with our team, this year, hopefully, we will get back on track. Not a dumb analogy..higher picks that weren't worth it. Lance continues to be crap even with more play..I expect the same with Moods..cause he really doesn't seem to change much. Why leave it to a kicker? Not leaving it..that is just the way s**t happens. It is on the kicker to win the game sometimes. Not every game is gunna have a comfy lead. I mean, sheesh lol

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
Moody had a terrible year last season after having a prettty decent rookie year. He started off okay last year but then he got injured and missed a few games. He wasn't the same afterward. His misses were right and left. Maybe it was lost confidence or maybe he was compensating for the injury he suffered. He's going to face competition ths year so we'll see how he does.

Right. It was silly to spend a top 100 pick on a kicker to begin with. Pissing away draft value and created crazy pressure on the kid. There's blame on the coaching staff and FO for that…trying to blame Kyle for the kicker mistakes and not cutting him after a yr and 1/2 is dumb. It's about as dumb as me saying they should cut Brock for backbreaking end of the game INTs.

the whole narrative of everything bad that happens is Kyle's fault and anything good is because of the players is tired and stale.

I don't even care that they used a 3rd round pick on a kicker. If he had played like he did in college and a=wa slights out in pressure situatins then nobdy would be complaining. We don't know who they would have taken instead and if he would have worked out either.

This isn't about Kyle or where Moody was picked. It's about his dropoff last year and whether he can regain his college and rookie form.

Originally posted by NYniner85:
Right. It was silly to spend a top 100 pick on a kicker to begin with. Pissing away draft value and created crazy pressure on the kid. There's blame on the coaching staff and FO for that…trying to blame Kyle for the kicker mistakes and not cutting him after a yr and 1/2 is dumb. It's about as dumb as me saying they should cut Brock for backbreaking end of the game INTs.

the whole narrative of everything bad that happens is Kyle's fault and anything good is because of the players is tired and stale.

100% I dnt think he could handle the pressure. They must have thought Moody could handle it..or that maybe it would even be a mental boost. But idk he got the yips bad..the guy just isn't reliable. Maybe he will settle in more as time goes on..not looking promising. Idk

This new deal is about the best outcome both sides could've hoped for. Anyone who thinks otherwise is just high.