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May 17, 2025 at 3:52 AM
Originally posted by genus49:
Originally posted by ninersrule4:
Originally posted by miked1978:
Originally posted by maxsmart:
#49ers Brock Purdy when down 1-8 points in 4th quarter or OT in regular season or playoffs:
41 for 72 for 502 yards, 3 TDs, 7 INTs, 52.9 passer rating

(Purdy ranks 151st out of 160 QBs with 50+ attempts in that scenario since 2000)

This is just so f**king stupid. Brock is great in most statistical categories but here you are finding that one sta he isn't good in. I bet Joe Montana, Patrick Mahomes, Tom Brady were pretty bad in a couple stats too if you look hard enough.

Isn't that a pretty important stat? The QBS you named are all incredibly clutch when it matters..

It's important but it's also wildly out of context.

In general Kyle's offense struggles in come back situations when we're forced to throw. Brock hasn't had many situations meeting those qualifications in his starting career because for the most part he has us well ahead in games or it's close.

This year we had a lot more of that but the whole team struggled and we had injuries galore. When you have guys dropping passes, calls not going your way or OL struggling to block so Brock gets hit that will impact the numbers.

Also this doesn't track if Purdy marches us down the field but the TD is ran in by a RB.

During the 2023 season we had those situations happen just 3 times. 2 of the games we were missing Trent and Deebo. The 3rd game was Baltimore where we were in a huge hole but really only the first pick Brock threw was a bad throw. Not to mention he didn't finish that game and yet it's still counted.

I put a lot more on what Brock showed in the playoffs vs GB, Detroit and even KC than those numbers taken out of context.

Exactly, the time it mattered most he got us to a Superbowl
May 17, 2025 at 4:00 AM
Originally posted by tankle104:
Originally posted by Typecast:
Details so far:
  • 270.3M in total cash over 6 years.
    • 5.3M in old cash and 1 remaining year that was extended.
    • 265M in new cash and 5 added years is the extension.
  • 8.5M cap hit in 2025
    • With a minimized salary for 2025, Purdy's signing bonus would be 36.9M.
  • 100M guaranteed at signing
  • 181M in total practical guarantees. 165.05M in practical guarantees through "the first three new years" (first four years...).

When the cap hit numbers come out - I'd almost guarantee that his first three years, the cap hit is under 20 each year. Fourth year is low 30s at best.

I'm actually curious if they front load it with so much youth on the roster now and the big contracts done.
May 17, 2025 at 4:05 AM
May 17, 2025 at 4:08 AM
Originally posted by Since07:
Not sure what you mean more bullish on Purdy than me? We have a solid line up but its our depth a long with our major injuries year in and year out that makes me feel un confident going into the season even if its an easy schedule

Projecting injuries is a terrible way to make predictions on the year though.

A lot of the guys we lost this offseason had injury issues frequently and yet the media is acting like we cut ourselves off at the knees for losing those guys.

I think doing predictions on the season now is silly but when the schedule comes out it becomes a natural thing to do.

The fact is we had 3 games at minimum taken away in the division that we 100% should've closed out last year which would've had us at that 9-8 record and that's not even accounting for key injuries we had or other crazy tragedy to deal with.

There are a lot of unknowns with the young guys but I think some of you forget about the coaching changes as well. That will be huge.
May 17, 2025 at 5:23 AM
Originally posted by WINiner:
Originally posted by ninersrule4:
Originally posted by miked1978:
Originally posted by maxsmart:
#49ers Brock Purdy when down 1-8 points in 4th quarter or OT in regular season or playoffs:
41 for 72 for 502 yards, 3 TDs, 7 INTs, 52.9 passer rating

(Purdy ranks 151st out of 160 QBs with 50+ attempts in that scenario since 2000)

This is just so f**king stupid. Brock is great in most statistical categories but here you are finding that one sta he isn't good in. I bet Joe Montana, Patrick Mahomes, Tom Brady were pretty bad in a couple stats too if you look hard enough.

Isn't that a pretty important stat? The QBS you named are all incredibly clutch when it matters..

What's Shanahan's record in the same scenario?

I mean the QB has gotta show up in those spots. Coaches can only do so much, they're not playing or throwing the football.

it's something Brock's gotta improve upon that comes with more experience and time.

Folks acting like he's not on the Jared Goff level as far as cash goes are being ridiculous though.
May 17, 2025 at 6:04 AM
Originally posted by DRCHOWDER:

Lol srsly dbt Purdy ever had an EBT card LOL, it wasn't that bad, just bunk beds with his roomie and man candles or something haha.
May 17, 2025 at 7:07 AM
  • okdkid
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Somehow still a bargain.
May 17, 2025 at 7:10 AM
Will be interesting to see if the contract is front loaded or not.
May 17, 2025 at 8:04 AM
Originally posted by okdkid:
Somehow still a bargain.

It's not a bargain. It's right about where he should be if you go by what other QBs are making. Ranked about 8th overall which is about s high as I see him comoared with other QBs. Still too much money for a QB that has played 2 full seasons and part of another one. I don't think that's enough time to fully evaluate a player since last season was a lost one with so many injuries. It's not my money so they can do whatever they think is right. If he flops and never gets them back to the SB or wins one then it's on them. If he leads them to a SB victory then they'll look smart.
May 17, 2025 at 8:16 AM
Originally posted by 9NERNATE:
Will be interesting to see if the contract is front loaded or not.

I think it is. Most of the guarantees are in the first 3 years. Could be an easy out if he struggles or gets hurt.

This contract is pretty good and kudos to Brock for not creating drama and having a relatively friendly contract. Hes only the 8th highest paid qb, and that goes down quickly so by next year he could be only the 15th highest.

I truly think hes locked in this season to prove everyone wrong.... again.
May 17, 2025 at 8:17 AM
Originally posted by DRCHOWDER:
Originally posted by _Goldblooded_:
Originally posted by Predator85:
Not my money, I can care less. Glad Purdy got paid

You "couldn't" care less

also technically it is our money if you buy tickets and jerseys etc... since that plays into other stuff..... technically not all your money.

I hope this doesn't keep them from signing or keeping good players in the next few years. We know Purdy isn't good enough to take over a game with his arm or legs. He needs a good supporting cast like most QBs do. My fear is we'll see more and more of the supporting players holding out for more money. Why wouldn't they? In the end I care more about the team than any single player.
[ Edited by CatchMaster80 on May 17, 2025 at 8:32 AM ]
May 17, 2025 at 8:38 AM
Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
Originally posted by okdkid:
Somehow still a bargain.

It's not a bargain. It's right about where he should be if you go by what other QBs are making. Ranked about 8th overall which is about s high as I see him comoared with other QBs. Still too much money for a QB that has played 2 full seasons and part of another one. I don't think that's enough time to fully evaluate a player since last season was a lost one with so many injuries. It's not my money so they can do whatever they think is right. If he flops and never gets them back to the SB or wins one then it's on them. If he leads them to a SB victory then they'll look smart.

He was a top 5 QB (arguably top 3) in his first full year starting, and was a contender for MVP almost the entire year. His efficiency stats were historically good, and in a franchise that had Montana and Young, ranks as one of the best QB seasons in our storied history.

I understand last year was a big disappointment when compared to 2023, but if he had been picked where Trevor Lawrence was, he'd have been given a lot more grace by fans and media.

He's still not a finished product, and there's certainly questions remaining as to what his actual ceiling is, but in a year when salaries have exploded, he didn't reset the QB market the way inferior guys like Jimmy did. Most of the guys on the QB list that have higher salaries, signed their deals one or two years ago. And that makes this signing a relative bargain.

In some ways, we should be thankful of last year's mess of a season. Purdy wasn't horrible, but a down year took him off elite trajectory and put him in Goffland contract-wise.
May 17, 2025 at 8:39 AM
I'm going to put the primary blame on Brock's late game interceptions on the man ultimately responsible, and that's Kyle Shanahan.

Most of these interceptions were the result of the wr and qb not being on the same page, and that's a coaching job. I'll grant you that there was less time to do that with Pearsall missing all of training camp and most of the first of the season, but it's still Kyle's job.

In My Opinion, this goes back to the SB the year before. I think Kyle giving the other guys 4 downs and a known target of what they need to do would cause us to lose 8 out of 10 times, whereas the odds would be slightly in our favor if we took that advantage, as we could have. Bottom line, he had gotten out coached by Andy Reid. Kyle Knew he F.U., he was depressed, and I think he quiet quit on us last year. He wasn't preparing plays for critical moments, and it looked like he was just pulling plays out of his computer for a game plan with little analysis for the defensive weaknesses. He wasn't making in game changes like we've seen him do so well in previous years. And he wasn't up for putting out the energy demanding his players performed correctly.

Additionally, we got away from our roots of having a strong defensive front that could reliably stop the run, and of course we always build an OL better at run blocking than pass protection. All of these things force Brock into making more risky throws late in games. And that's what we got.

I don't think that's Brock's nature, and I don't think it's a weakness that should reduce his value. I do think Kyle's back is against the wall this year, and I expect him to get it together, or leave. He's not old in years, but there are younger offensive coaches out there that could be expected to bring the energy and intelligence we need.
May 17, 2025 at 8:41 AM
Originally posted by Since07:
I don't like wearing qb jerseys for some reason, but if he's wins #6 I want to get a custom #262 and IRRELEVANT

I don't like wearing QB jerseys either. To me it's because it wasn't a position I played. LB, FB, or DE for me.
May 17, 2025 at 9:00 AM
Originally posted by Chance:
He was a top 5 QB (arguably top 3) in his first full year starting, and was a contender for MVP almost the entire year. His efficiency stats were historically good, and in a franchise that had Montana and Young, ranks as one of the best QB seasons in our storied history.

I understand last year was a big disappointment when compared to 2023, but if he had been picked where Trevor Lawrence was, he'd have been given a lot more grace by fans and media.

He's still not a finished product, and there's certainly questions remaining as to what his actual ceiling is, but in a year when salaries have exploded, he didn't reset the QB market the way inferior guys like Jimmy did. Most of the guys on the QB list that have higher salaries, signed their deals one or two years ago. And that makes this signing a relative bargain.

In some ways, we should be thankful of last year's mess of a season. Purdy wasn't horrible, but a down year took him off elite trajectory and put him in Goffland contract-wise.

I mean what if his best season was 2023? That can still be true. This is a fair and reasonable deal for both sides. He's in that Goff territory as of now. Can he move up into the other class and make record breaking money? Possibly but that's not a for sure thing either.
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