QB Brock Purdy Thread

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by socalfan21:

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by jcs:

Originally posted by socalfan21:

Originally posted by random49er:

Originally posted by TheWooLick:

Originally posted by random49er:

Originally posted by TheWooLick:

Originally posted by random49er:

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by random49er:

Originally posted by Izyniner:

Originally posted by random49er:
I dont think past accomplishments are going to move the needle. I think how good you are as a player (your level of play right now) and future projections of how good you're likely to be in the immediate future is what's going to get you alot of this GTD money.

How do you get a future projection without using past accomplishments as your base?

So your projection for how Jalen Hurts will play in the future is mainly based on him winning the SB MVP? What about other QBs that have won it or got there in recent memory.... Nick Foles (MVP), Flacco (MVP), Trent Dilfer, Jake Delhomme, Matt Hasselbeck, the list goes on. You really doing this?

You go with past "team accomplishments",....I'll go along with the NFL brass,...which is what I actually see regarding how they're playing on the field, the talent I can see or gauge, et. al.

Jalen Hurts latest isn't all about winning the SB. How he played last year overall and how he plays in general when certain situations arise are all part of those evaluations.

Teams don't just pay for SB wins. They're big parts of negotiations of course but teams watch tape, they understand how their own guy is used, how they can hide his deficiencies and how he may look if things aren't perfect around him.

But past accomplishments are certainly a part of the evaluation. If you show you're able to play at a high level and don't completely fall apart when few things are going right that's a good indicator of future success.

Getting to a SB doesn't show you're capable of playing at a high level. Playing at a high level shows you're capable of playing at a high level.

Yep, and we have seen it from Hurts and Purdy.

And plenty of others before them. (Getting to a SB that is)

Sure.

I was agreeing with you about those two proving themselves not by getting to a Superbowl but by playing at a high level.

The playing at a high level thing was a general statement.

Hurts and Purdy both got to Super Bowls. If you think both play at a high level, that is your own individual opinion.

Hurts is a top 20 QB who was playing with an elite defense. I'd compare his play to a Trent dilfer. Purdy actually had to drag that corpse of a team to the Super Bowl, especially in the NFCC. Shanahan f**ked around with the packers and lions and purd pulled them through.

Corps of a team?

He had all pro kittle, cmc, juice, a healthy trent and deebo, jennings vs GB and a fairly healthy and loaded D. He had all pro kittle, cmc, juic3 and aiyuk with a healthy trent and deebo, jennings as well as a loaded D against the lions. Not sure we saw the same games

There is a middle ground between both of you guys.

The team was FAR from a corpse however the defense was not playing well at all in the playoffs. They did get on track but there was a reason coaches had to have the "effort" talk heading into the SB. I'd also saying not having Clelein Ferrell and Hufanga definitely hurt our ability to stop the run. Once Greenlaw got hurt in the SB that was the killer of course.

The OL also was far from anything to write home about. Deebo was also playing hurt from the GB injury.

So like I said...somewhere in the middle is the correct analysis. Certainly when compared to the team Hurts had around him it's not a contest. Eagles were incredibly healthy going into the SB and had studs across the board. Virtually no weaknesses. Hell they even got solid play from Oren Burks because their DL and secondary was so good...also didn't hurt that KC was dealing with major pass pro issues.

That defense in 2023 in the post season was awful. Purdy using his legs and his brain won them two playoff games. If it wasn't for him making clutch plays, they would have never made it to the SB.

That's true but saying the team in 2023 was a corpse was way over the top. The defense was sloppy as hell in that Lions game but came up in big moments and having the skill players we had definitely helped as well.

I think we can easily say Brock didn't have as dominant of a roster around him and had to do a lot more than Hurts did to get to the SB.

I was referring to the playoffs... the regular season doesn't matter once you get to the playoffs... also the defense started to look slow in the last weeks of the regular season

Originally posted by Jcool:

Best Accuracy on Go Routes in 2024:

1. Brock Purdy
2. Dak Prescott
3. Lamar Jackson
4. Geno Smith
5. Russell Wilson
6. Cooper Rush
7. Josh Allen
8. Joe Burrow
9. Jordan Love
10. Kirk Cousins
11. Justin Herbert
12. Patrick Mahomes
13. Aaron Rodgers
14. Kyler Murray
15. Tua…

— Warren Sharp (@SharpFootball) March 18, 2025

Brock Purdy ranks #1 in Go Route accuracy & efficiency since 2023

only 9% of att were incomplete due to inaccuracy

#1 in the NFL

rank on Go Routes:

#1 in success rate (59%)
#1 in YPA (17.2)
#1 in completion rate (58%)
#2 in EPA/att (+1.01)

out of 49 QBs the last 2 years pic.twitter.com/1nSXkGAY0K

— Warren Sharp (@SharpFootball) March 18, 2025

he is also extremely gifted in reading the D. Quick in the head beat an empty head and big arm every day and twice on Sunday Monday and Thursday.

I keep saying this and I will continue to say it...there is not a QB alive nor has there ever been who can consistently complete passes while he is sitting on his a$$. Brockstar needs max protection while deciphering the defense. AND, he needs WR's who can get separation (and catch the ball). If this is the draft plan of action, to bolster the OL, you will see Brock rock.

Nice throw by Purdy under duress.......also fuken brendel!!

Another reminder of some of the out of scheme stuff Brock can do


Since some in here seem to think no other teams would be interested in him(especially when Shanahan's offense is rampant around the league these days)

Originally posted by Bay2Bay9erAllday:

Originally posted by Jcool:

Best Accuracy on Go Routes in 2024:

1. Brock Purdy
2. Dak Prescott
3. Lamar Jackson
4. Geno Smith
5. Russell Wilson
6. Cooper Rush
7. Josh Allen
8. Joe Burrow
9. Jordan Love
10. Kirk Cousins
11. Justin Herbert
12. Patrick Mahomes
13. Aaron Rodgers
14. Kyler Murray
15. Tua…

— Warren Sharp (@SharpFootball) March 18, 2025

Brock Purdy ranks #1 in Go Route accuracy & efficiency since 2023

only 9% of att were incomplete due to inaccuracy

#1 in the NFL

rank on Go Routes:

#1 in success rate (59%)
#1 in YPA (17.2)
#1 in completion rate (58%)
#2 in EPA/att (+1.01)

out of 49 QBs the last 2 years pic.twitter.com/1nSXkGAY0K

— Warren Sharp (@SharpFootball) March 18, 2025

You know I'd hate to interrupt the "Go Route" party you guys seem to be having here,...but in noticing that all of these numbers boasted about seem to highlight efficiency, I did a little digging and, per https://ftnfantasy.com/nfl/stats, when I filter for go routes, I get an extremely low amount of attempts in 2024 for a starting QB:



Yes, the efficiency is high, as only Russ had a higher percentage of success on Go Routes than Brock on this list, but Russ had almost twice the number of attempts on them, so his results on these routes stick out much more.

The leader in the amount of attempts on Go Routes has over 3x's the amount Brock did, and even backups like Mac Jizzle had ended up with more attempts on Go Routes.

He completed 4 less Go Routes than Purdy, and you can see what a difference that had in terms of efficiency. I dont know that differences in stats like this are the reason Mac was only able to fetch $5M in GTD money on the open market this offseason.

If you know football, then you know that getting the ball out there on Go Routes isin't all about EFFICIENCY in terms of strategy! The more you challenge teams on the back end, the more you hold them accountable for all areas of the field for the duration of games on pretty much the rest of the plays ran, including runs.

Well,...these efficiency stats previously listed aren't going to capture this reality.

So the question posed is obvious: If we're trying to figure out what Brock's worth currently is, are you perhaps overdoing the whole "Go Route efficiency" thing?

Originally posted by Bay2Bay9erAllday:

Originally posted by Jcool:

Best Accuracy on Go Routes in 2024:

1. Brock Purdy
2. Dak Prescott
3. Lamar Jackson
4. Geno Smith
5. Russell Wilson
6. Cooper Rush
7. Josh Allen
8. Joe Burrow
9. Jordan Love
10. Kirk Cousins
11. Justin Herbert
12. Patrick Mahomes
13. Aaron Rodgers
14. Kyler Murray
15. Tua…

— Warren Sharp (@SharpFootball) March 18, 2025

Brock Purdy ranks #1 in Go Route accuracy & efficiency since 2023

only 9% of att were incomplete due to inaccuracy

#1 in the NFL

rank on Go Routes:

#1 in success rate (59%)
#1 in YPA (17.2)
#1 in completion rate (58%)
#2 in EPA/att (+1.01)

out of 49 QBs the last 2 years pic.twitter.com/1nSXkGAY0K

— Warren Sharp (@SharpFootball) March 18, 2025

Stat's are awesome. Love Brock but not this contract at $60m

Some other stats:
AI Overview

Learn more

Brock Purdy's worst stats include a career-low 36.7 passer rating in Week 7, three interceptions (second-most in a game, behind four against Baltimore), and a 1-of-6, 41-yard, 16.0 passer rating performance on third downs against Kansas City.

Here's a more detailed breakdown of Purdy's struggles:

Career-Low Passer Rating:
Purdy's performance in Week 7 resulted in his lowest career passer rating of 36.7.

Interceptions:
He threw three interceptions in that game, which is the second-most interceptions in a single game in his career (four against Baltimore in Week 16, 2023).

Third Down Struggles:
Purdy struggled significantly on third downs, completing only 1 of 6 passes for 41 yards and throwing two interceptions, resulting in a passer rating of 16.0.

Fourth Quarter:
Purdy has one touchdown and four interceptions when trailing in the fourth quarter, resulting in the worst passer rating in those spots in the past two seasons.

Passer Rating before Halftime:
Purdy has a career passer rating of 106.9 before halftime, but in situations where the 49ers are trailing or tied in the second half, his passer rating drops to a mere 70.9.

Interceptions tied for worst ratio:
Purdy has five interceptions during the 49ers' losing streak, five of which have come with the 49ers tied or trailing in the second half. This is tied for the worst ratio in the NFL in the last two seasons.

Originally posted by random49er:
You know I'd hate to interrupt the "Go Route" party you guys seem to be having here,...but in noticing that all of these numbers boasted about seem to highlight efficiency, I did a little digging and, per https://ftnfantasy.com/nfl/stats, when I filter for go routes, I get an extremely low amount of attempts in 2024 for a starting QB:



Yes, the efficiency is high, as only Russ had a higher percentage of success on Go Routes than Brock on this list, but Russ had almost twice the number of attempts on them, so his results on these routes stick out much more.

The leader in the amount of attempts on Go Routes has over 3x's the amount Brock did, and even backups like Mac Jizzle had ended up with more attempts on Go Routes.

He completed 4 less Go Routes than Purdy, and you can see what a difference that had in terms of efficiency. I dont know that differences in stats like this are the reason Mac was only able to fetch $5M in GTD money on the open market this offseason.

If you know football, then you know that getting the ball out there on Go Routes isin't all about EFFICIENCY in terms of strategy! The more you challenge teams on the back end, the more you hold them accountable for all areas of the field for the duration of games on pretty much the rest of the plays ran, including runs.

Well,...these efficiency stats previously listed aren't going to capture this reality.

So the question posed is obvious: If we're trying to figure out what Brock's worth currently is, are you perhaps overdoing the whole "Go Route efficiency" thing?

Have you ever tried not being condescending when posting here?

Nobody is throwing a "Go route party". The posts were sharing simple information which with all your research you didn't disprove. And the intent of the information was to remind people who like to pretend Brock was awful last year, that even with all the BS he still performed at a higher level than some are acting like.

And yes your point is valid, the more you attempt something the odds of efficiency goes down but the crazy thing is...BUT not everyone who has lower attempts with go routes performs at the level that Brock did. So your point also doesn't do what you think it does.

Not to mention the amount of go routes is based more on the scheme and the personnel on the field than the QB. For instance while Miami runs a similar scheme to what we do, they have Tyreek Hill and Waddle at WR so they're going to dial up gos a lot more than we would with the guys we had, especially with BA being injured.

Which is also another reminder that Brock's arm limitations don't handicap our offense.

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by random49er:
You know I'd hate to interrupt the "Go Route" party you guys seem to be having here,...but in noticing that all of these numbers boasted about seem to highlight efficiency, I did a little digging and, per https://ftnfantasy.com/nfl/stats, when I filter for go routes, I get an extremely low amount of attempts in 2024 for a starting QB:



Yes, the efficiency is high, as only Russ had a higher percentage of success on Go Routes than Brock on this list, but Russ had almost twice the number of attempts on them, so his results on these routes stick out much more.

The leader in the amount of attempts on Go Routes has over 3x's the amount Brock did, and even backups like Mac Jizzle had ended up with more attempts on Go Routes.

He completed 4 less Go Routes than Purdy, and you can see what a difference that had in terms of efficiency. I dont know that differences in stats like this are the reason Mac was only able to fetch $5M in GTD money on the open market this offseason.

If you know football, then you know that getting the ball out there on Go Routes isin't all about EFFICIENCY in terms of strategy! The more you challenge teams on the back end, the more you hold them accountable for all areas of the field for the duration of games on pretty much the rest of the plays ran, including runs.

Well,...these efficiency stats previously listed aren't going to capture this reality.

So the question posed is obvious: If we're trying to figure out what Brock's worth currently is, are you perhaps overdoing the whole "Go Route efficiency" thing?

Have you ever tried not being condescending when posting here?

Nobody is throwing a "Go route party". The posts were sharing simple information which with all your research you didn't disprove. And the intent of the information was to remind people who like to pretend Brock was awful last year, that even with all the BS he still performed at a higher level than some are acting like.

And yes your point is valid, the more you attempt something the odds of efficiency goes down but the crazy thing is...BUT not everyone who has lower attempts with go routes performs at the level that Brock did. So your point also doesn't do what you think it does.

Not to mention the amount of go routes is based more on the scheme and the personnel on the field than the QB. For instance while Miami runs a similar scheme to what we do, they have Tyreek Hill and Waddle at WR so they're going to dial up gos a lot more than we would with the guys we had, especially with BA being injured.

Which is also another reminder that Brock's arm limitations don't handicap our offense.

Only in bad weather and when he's forced to throw the ball...which is to to not say never but more often than not last year when it fell on him to make plays to carry the team he couldn't.

Originally posted by 9erson3:
Stat's are awesome. Love Brock but not this contract at $60m

Some other stats:
AI Overview

Learn more

Brock Purdy's worst stats include a career-low 36.7 passer rating in Week 7, three interceptions (second-most in a game, behind four against Baltimore), and a 1-of-6, 41-yard, 16.0 passer rating performance on third downs against Kansas City.

Here's a more detailed breakdown of Purdy's struggles:

Career-Low Passer Rating:
Purdy's performance in Week 7 resulted in his lowest career passer rating of 36.7.

Interceptions:
He threw three interceptions in that game, which is the second-most interceptions in a single game in his career (four against Baltimore in Week 16, 2023).

Third Down Struggles:
Purdy struggled significantly on third downs, completing only 1 of 6 passes for 41 yards and throwing two interceptions, resulting in a passer rating of 16.0.

Fourth Quarter:
Purdy has one touchdown and four interceptions when trailing in the fourth quarter, resulting in the worst passer rating in those spots in the past two seasons.

Passer Rating before Halftime:
Purdy has a career passer rating of 106.9 before halftime, but in situations where the 49ers are trailing or tied in the second half, his passer rating drops to a mere 70.9.

Interceptions tied for worst ratio:
Purdy has five interceptions during the 49ers' losing streak, five of which have come with the 49ers tied or trailing in the second half. This is tied for the worst ratio in the NFL in the last two seasons.

Nothing says nuanced QB discussion like AI.

What did you even plug in to get that considering the result is literally all over the place.

50m or better coming up. Or a holdout? 49ers will drag this out as long as possible and might end up with Aaron Rodger's which would be a disaster. (hate to say that has a fan)

Originally posted by jcs:

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by random49er:
You know I'd hate to interrupt the "Go Route" party you guys seem to be having here,...but in noticing that all of these numbers boasted about seem to highlight efficiency, I did a little digging and, per https://ftnfantasy.com/nfl/stats, when I filter for go routes, I get an extremely low amount of attempts in 2024 for a starting QB:



Yes, the efficiency is high, as only Russ had a higher percentage of success on Go Routes than Brock on this list, but Russ had almost twice the number of attempts on them, so his results on these routes stick out much more.

The leader in the amount of attempts on Go Routes has over 3x's the amount Brock did, and even backups like Mac Jizzle had ended up with more attempts on Go Routes.

He completed 4 less Go Routes than Purdy, and you can see what a difference that had in terms of efficiency. I dont know that differences in stats like this are the reason Mac was only able to fetch $5M in GTD money on the open market this offseason.

If you know football, then you know that getting the ball out there on Go Routes isin't all about EFFICIENCY in terms of strategy! The more you challenge teams on the back end, the more you hold them accountable for all areas of the field for the duration of games on pretty much the rest of the plays ran, including runs.

Well,...these efficiency stats previously listed aren't going to capture this reality.

So the question posed is obvious: If we're trying to figure out what Brock's worth currently is, are you perhaps overdoing the whole "Go Route efficiency" thing?

Have you ever tried not being condescending when posting here?

Nobody is throwing a "Go route party". The posts were sharing simple information which with all your research you didn't disprove. And the intent of the information was to remind people who like to pretend Brock was awful last year, that even with all the BS he still performed at a higher level than some are acting like.

And yes your point is valid, the more you attempt something the odds of efficiency goes down but the crazy thing is...BUT not everyone who has lower attempts with go routes performs at the level that Brock did. So your point also doesn't do what you think it does.

Not to mention the amount of go routes is based more on the scheme and the personnel on the field than the QB. For instance while Miami runs a similar scheme to what we do, they have Tyreek Hill and Waddle at WR so they're going to dial up gos a lot more than we would with the guys we had, especially with BA being injured.

Which is also another reminder that Brock's arm limitations don't handicap our offense.

Only in bad weather and when he's forced to throw the ball...which is to to not say never but more often than not last year when it fell on him to make plays to carry the team he couldn't.

So like the Packers Divisional round game?

Even if we went back to the Rams rain game last year we'd see Matt Stafford who I think we can all agree has a much stronger arm than Brock was struggling even more than Brock in the rain.

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by jcs:

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by random49er:
You know I'd hate to interrupt the "Go Route" party you guys seem to be having here,...but in noticing that all of these numbers boasted about seem to highlight efficiency, I did a little digging and, per https://ftnfantasy.com/nfl/stats, when I filter for go routes, I get an extremely low amount of attempts in 2024 for a starting QB:



Yes, the efficiency is high, as only Russ had a higher percentage of success on Go Routes than Brock on this list, but Russ had almost twice the number of attempts on them, so his results on these routes stick out much more.

The leader in the amount of attempts on Go Routes has over 3x's the amount Brock did, and even backups like Mac Jizzle had ended up with more attempts on Go Routes.

He completed 4 less Go Routes than Purdy, and you can see what a difference that had in terms of efficiency. I dont know that differences in stats like this are the reason Mac was only able to fetch $5M in GTD money on the open market this offseason.

If you know football, then you know that getting the ball out there on Go Routes isin't all about EFFICIENCY in terms of strategy! The more you challenge teams on the back end, the more you hold them accountable for all areas of the field for the duration of games on pretty much the rest of the plays ran, including runs.

Well,...these efficiency stats previously listed aren't going to capture this reality.

So the question posed is obvious: If we're trying to figure out what Brock's worth currently is, are you perhaps overdoing the whole "Go Route efficiency" thing?

Have you ever tried not being condescending when posting here?

Nobody is throwing a "Go route party". The posts were sharing simple information which with all your research you didn't disprove. And the intent of the information was to remind people who like to pretend Brock was awful last year, that even with all the BS he still performed at a higher level than some are acting like.

And yes your point is valid, the more you attempt something the odds of efficiency goes down but the crazy thing is...BUT not everyone who has lower attempts with go routes performs at the level that Brock did. So your point also doesn't do what you think it does.

Not to mention the amount of go routes is based more on the scheme and the personnel on the field than the QB. For instance while Miami runs a similar scheme to what we do, they have Tyreek Hill and Waddle at WR so they're going to dial up gos a lot more than we would with the guys we had, especially with BA being injured.

Which is also another reminder that Brock's arm limitations don't handicap our offense.

Only in bad weather and when he's forced to throw the ball...which is to to not say never but more often than not last year when it fell on him to make plays to carry the team he couldn't.

So like the Packers Divisional round game?

Even if we went back to the Rams rain game last year we'd see Matt Stafford who I think we can all agree has a much stronger arm than Brock was struggling even more than Brock in the rain.

How about that Buffalo Game and the 94 yards he managed to pass for.

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by 9erson3:
Stat's are awesome. Love Brock but not this contract at $60m

Some other stats:
AI Overview

Learn more

Brock Purdy's worst stats include a career-low 36.7 passer rating in Week 7, three interceptions (second-most in a game, behind four against Baltimore), and a 1-of-6, 41-yard, 16.0 passer rating performance on third downs against Kansas City.

Here's a more detailed breakdown of Purdy's struggles:

Career-Low Passer Rating:
Purdy's performance in Week 7 resulted in his lowest career passer rating of 36.7.

Interceptions:
He threw three interceptions in that game, which is the second-most interceptions in a single game in his career (four against Baltimore in Week 16, 2023).

Third Down Struggles:
Purdy struggled significantly on third downs, completing only 1 of 6 passes for 41 yards and throwing two interceptions, resulting in a passer rating of 16.0.

Fourth Quarter:
Purdy has one touchdown and four interceptions when trailing in the fourth quarter, resulting in the worst passer rating in those spots in the past two seasons.

Passer Rating before Halftime:
Purdy has a career passer rating of 106.9 before halftime, but in situations where the 49ers are trailing or tied in the second half, his passer rating drops to a mere 70.9.

Interceptions tied for worst ratio:
Purdy has five interceptions during the 49ers' losing streak, five of which have come with the 49ers tied or trailing in the second half. This is tied for the worst ratio in the NFL in the last two seasons.

Nothing says nuanced QB discussion like AI.

What did you even plug in to get that considering the result is literally all over the place.

Not lies are they even if in no particular order. Love Brock but it's gotten a little over the top here. I would like to see where we are after another year. I think maybe he might get that record contract NEXT signing but it should not be this one.

AI is the future- and your friend.