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QB Brock Purdy Thread
QB Brock Purdy Thread
Mar 7, 2025 at 3:59 PM
- MucketyMuck
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So are we really low balling him for 45 mill? Sorry I haven't paid a lot of attention.
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Mar 7, 2025 at 4:01 PM
- 49AllTheTime
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Originally posted by MucketyMuck:49ers don't leak, but that's the rumor..
So are we really low balling him for 45 mill? Sorry I haven't paid a lot of attention.
Mar 7, 2025 at 4:01 PM
- SmokeyJoe
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Originally posted by MucketyMuck:
So are we really low balling him for 45 mill? Sorry I haven't paid a lot of attention.
The 45 million dollar offer was a report by Jason La Canfora which may not be accurate.
Mar 7, 2025 at 4:03 PM
- random49er
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Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by genus49:
Originally posted by ninerfaninnorcal:
Based on Brock's overall play and negating what other QB's are getting, Brock has for sure not proven he is worth more than 45 million each year.
Tell me what Jordan Love and Trevor Lawrence proved to be worth 55 million each year. I'll wait.
Who cares? Just because some teams make horrible contracts doesn't mean SF has to follow suit.
Bad contracts "set the market" somehow. No idea why.
I've been cheated in marketplaces a time or two,....never noticed that everyone else with quality goods suddenly changed their prices because me and those like me had made stupid mistakes.
[ Edited by random49er on Mar 7, 2025 at 4:03 PM ]
Mar 7, 2025 at 4:05 PM
- MucketyMuck
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Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:
Originally posted by MucketyMuck:
So are we really low balling him for 45 mill? Sorry I haven't paid a lot of attention.
The 45 million dollar offer was a report by Jason La Canfora which may not be accurate.
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
49ers don't leak, but that's the rumor..
Yeah I don't buy it but If true it shows how little they think of him.
Mar 7, 2025 at 4:09 PM
- SmokeyJoe
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Originally posted by MucketyMuck:
Yeah I don't buy it but If true it shows how little they think of him.
Funny enough, I disagree. I think that's a higher opening offer than expected for a team set to play 'hardball'. Keep in mind it's an opening offer, not a final one, at least as reported.
We probably view Brock differently though.
Mar 7, 2025 at 4:17 PM
- MucketyMuck
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Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:
Originally posted by MucketyMuck:
Yeah I don't buy it but If true it shows how little they think of him.
Funny enough, I disagree. I think that's a higher opening offer than expected for a team set to play 'hardball'. Keep in mind it's an opening offer, not a final one, at least as reported.
We probably view Brock differently though.
I mean yeah, I guess that makes sense. Just by today's standards you'd think he'd be asking for high 50's if not 60's so 45 seems a little low but it wouldn't bother me a bit. I'm just paranoid that a low ball gets the drama going and we're stuck right back at Aiyuk or Trent or Deebo.
Mar 7, 2025 at 4:18 PM
- TheWooLick
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Originally posted by random49er:Originally posted by NYniner85:Originally posted by genus49:Originally posted by ninerfaninnorcal:Based on Brock's overall play and negating what other QB's are getting, Brock has for sure not proven he is worth more than 45 million each year.
Tell me what Jordan Love and Trevor Lawrence proved to be worth 55 million each year. I'll wait.
Who cares? Just because some teams make horrible contracts doesn't mean SF has to follow suit.
Bad contracts "set the market" somehow. No idea why.
I've been cheated in marketplaces a time or two,....never noticed that everyone else with quality goods suddenly changed their prices because me and those like me had made stupid mistakes.
That is several comps, they aren't outliers. That is the market.
Mar 7, 2025 at 4:22 PM
- random49er
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Originally posted by genus49:
Correct. The precedent is there. We're in here acting like Brock had a horrible year and that's why he's not deserving of a big contract meanwhile two guys who haven't done as much who got big deals and nobody batted an eye at them getting that money.
2 guys that were 1st round picks and continued investments, as teams love to sell tickets and bring in viewers and revenue. One of the 2 was even the 1st overall pick.
[ Edited by random49er on Mar 7, 2025 at 4:23 PM ]
Mar 7, 2025 at 4:23 PM
- SmokeyJoe
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Originally posted by MucketyMuck:
I mean yeah, I guess that makes sense. Just by today's standards you'd think he'd be asking for high 50's if not 60's so 45 seems a little low but it wouldn't bother me a bit. I'm just paranoid that a low ball gets the drama going and we're stuck right back at Aiyuk or Trent or Deebo.
He can ask for whatever he wants but that's not necessarily his market price and his only leverage is to hold out which will hurt him. Personally think that leverage has evaporated as we're a team in transition and likely won't be a SB contender next year without significant good fortune.
Mar 7, 2025 at 4:33 PM
- random49er
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Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
If Jennings was putting up numbers relative to his peers, you would have a good point here. But he isnt, so you dont.
yeah because he plays on an offense with a ton of players and isn't getting peppered like some of his peers.
Back to what I said, just let Brock find his market. Just like LA did with Stafford and we did with Buck and BA. Why is that such a controversial thing?
if teams are lining up to give him $60m per then you have your market price and can either talk about trading or paying him.
Because what you are continuing to leave out of the equation is draft compensation. It wouldnt be as simple as a team just willing to pay him x dollars. Its a team willing to trade a lot of draft capital and pay him x dollars.
lol one thing doesn't cancel out the other.
What multiple teams are willing to allow Brock to account for in GTD money and Cap Space "is what it is." Giving up draft picks in exchange to have the rights to do so doesnt change that.
[ Edited by random49er on Mar 7, 2025 at 4:33 PM ]
Mar 7, 2025 at 4:37 PM
- random49er
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Originally posted by TheWooLick:
Originally posted by random49er:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by genus49:
Originally posted by ninerfaninnorcal:
Based on Brock's overall play and negating what other QB's are getting, Brock has for sure not proven he is worth more than 45 million each year.
Tell me what Jordan Love and Trevor Lawrence proved to be worth 55 million each year. I'll wait.
Who cares? Just because some teams make horrible contracts doesn't mean SF has to follow suit.
Bad contracts "set the market" somehow. No idea why.
I've been cheated in marketplaces a time or two,....never noticed that everyone else with quality goods suddenly changed their prices because me and those like me had made stupid mistakes.
That is several comps, they aren't outliers. That is the market.
several comps? Thousands of people make bad deals on the same bad items on a daily basis. That doesn't suddenly pull the value of "real", "top notch" items down very much. You should go check it out and how it works at some point...
[ Edited by random49er on Mar 7, 2025 at 4:38 PM ]
Mar 7, 2025 at 4:47 PM
- bassmanr
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Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:
Originally posted by MucketyMuck:
I mean yeah, I guess that makes sense. Just by today's standards you'd think he'd be asking for high 50's if not 60's so 45 seems a little low but it wouldn't bother me a bit. I'm just paranoid that a low ball gets the drama going and we're stuck right back at Aiyuk or Trent or Deebo.
He can ask for whatever he wants but that's not necessarily his market price and his only leverage is to hold out which will hurt him. Personally think that leverage has evaporated as we're a team in transition and likely won't be a SB contender next year without significant good fortune.
I agree with that. He's not going to get some super huge deal this time around probably low 50's. If he plays best from here on out his next deal will be huge. Last year we were in the superbowl window which is why Ayuik reamed us and he could. This year we are re homing so won't have the same urgency. We will wait him out to avoid another huge deal only to fall flat.
Mar 7, 2025 at 4:49 PM
- SmokeyJoe
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Originally posted by bassmanr:
I agree with that. He's not going to get some super huge deal this time around probably low 50's. If he plays best from here on out his next deal will be huge. Last year we were in the superbowl window which is why Ayuik reamed us and he could. This year we are re homing so won't have the same urgency. We will wait him out to avoid another huge deal only to fall flat.
I'll bet the generic per year number is under 50 if a deal gets done. Ultimately guarantees and outs are probably more important.
I do think there's a chance a deal doesn't get done, but I think Brock eventually will come down if necessary.
Mar 7, 2025 at 4:51 PM
- genus49
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Originally posted by random49er:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by genus49:
Originally posted by ninerfaninnorcal:
Based on Brock's overall play and negating what other QB's are getting, Brock has for sure not proven he is worth more than 45 million each year.
Tell me what Jordan Love and Trevor Lawrence proved to be worth 55 million each year. I'll wait.
Who cares? Just because some teams make horrible contracts doesn't mean SF has to follow suit.
Bad contracts "set the market" somehow. No idea why.
I've been cheated in marketplaces a time or two,....never noticed that everyone else with quality goods suddenly changed their prices because me and those like me had made stupid mistakes.
Yeah…totally the same analogy.
These contracts are public records. The film, stats and all sorts of metrics are public records. The salary cap is the same for each team.
Every agent/player brings up comparable contracts when doing new deals. Thats how you get Trent Williams doing his deal a few years back to get $100k more than the at the time highest paid LT.