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Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
did we win that game ?

did you not use every excuse in the book to drag out a simple misread convo

there is a difference..

Bwahaha. What?

We usually win every game even with blunders.

Figured your energy would be different this time around. I'm sure it doesn't have anything to do with who the QB is, huh?
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Originally posted by NCommand:
Bwahaha. What?

We usually win every game even with blunders.

Figured your energy would be different this time around. I'm sure it doesn't have anything to do with who the QB is, huh?

Should a rook with 3 starts be held to the same standard as a guy with 50 starts?
Originally posted by YACBros85:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by YACBros85:
Like I stated in another post. Someone brought the subject up and I provided objective data recorded by a stats site. I couldn't care less whether other people find the information I provided useful or not.

I love this stat, personally.

Its not a bad stat. It actually helps paint a larger picture on a players actual overall performance. Whether the turnover was completed is irrelevant.

Exactly. Some guys play with fire more than others. It can tell more than that too.
Originally posted by 9ers4eva:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Bwahaha. What?

We usually win every game even with blunders.

Figured your energy would be different this time around. I'm sure it doesn't have anything to do with who the QB is, huh?

Should a rook with 3 starts be held to the same standard as a guy with 50 starts?

It doesn't matter. You two were way off base expecting Jimmy to know pre snap CMC would be open on the back side. And then expected him with two defenders in his face post snap instantly to come back to him. LOL

Those were good times. I wouldn't expect that in Madden.
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
did we win that game ?

did you not use every excuse in the book to drag out a simple misread convo

there is a difference..

Bwahaha. What?

We usually win every game even with blunders.

Figured your energy would be different this time around. I'm sure it doesn't have anything to do with who the QB is, huh?
did we win that game or not.. you are specifically talking about certain play and time right ?

energy ? yes it is different. since you are having a hard time reading.. go back read why i said it there is a difference
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by 9ers4eva:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Bwahaha. What?

We usually win every game even with blunders.

Figured your energy would be different this time around. I'm sure it doesn't have anything to do with who the QB is, huh?

Should a rook with 3 starts be held to the same standard as a guy with 50 starts?

It doesn't matter. You two were way off base expecting Jimmy to know pre snap CMC would be open on the back side. And then expected him with two defenders in his face post snap instantly to come back to him. LOL

Those were good times. I wouldn't expect that in Madden.
NC thinking he has a gotcha moment .. dude is always late
Originally posted by NCommand:
It doesn't matter. You two were way off base expecting Jimmy to know pre snap CMC would be open on the back side. And then expected him with two defenders in his face post snap instantly to come back to him. LOL

Those were good times. I wouldn't expect that in Madden.

It does matter and has always mattered.

What was really good times was blaming all qb flaws on the o line. Amazing when ya have a QB who reads the defense fairly well and is actually able to move things get better. Brock still has work to improve but the increase in offensive productivity is clear as day.
Originally posted by 9ers4eva:
Originally posted by NCommand:
It doesn't matter. You two were way off base expecting Jimmy to know pre snap CMC would be open on the back side. And then expected him with two defenders in his face post snap instantly to come back to him. LOL

Those were good times. I wouldn't expect that in Madden.

It does matter and has always mattered.

What was really good times was blaming all qb flaws on the o line. Amazing when ya have a QB who reads the defense fairly well and is actually able to move things get better. Brock still has work to improve but the increase in offensive productivity is clear as day.

We all saw that silly claim by you two. Funny how the goal posts moved and you won't touch it now save for standard deflecting.

It's all good though. Glad you two now understand how unfair that criticism was (no matter the QB).
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Originally posted by YACBros85:
Originally posted by Jcool:
Originally posted by Furlow:
Originally posted by YACBros85:
Originally posted by ritz126:
Originally posted by Furlow:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by tankle104:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by tankle104:
Originally posted by qnnhan7:

This one I thought George should've had. Purdy threaded and it was there for George, hit him in the chest.

Yeah, but Purdy needed to throw that just a split second faster.

when people ask "how much more room for improvement does he have?" - those kind of plays come to mind for me because he'll get better with reps. The anticipation, accuracy, etc. he already does a fine job with those but he has so much more room for improvement when it comes to just operating this offense - think 2016 falcons.
after the first two TDs he started holding the ball a little longer, not running the bootleg fast enough.. i hope it's not getting to his head

You have to remember that there is more than enough film on him for defenses to game plan and try to make him uncomfortable - also, he is most likely seeing new coverages and his "go-to" plays are probably getting unique formations. I think it's just part of him being a rookie.

typically around games 6-12 or so are when rookie qb start to hit a little bump, I'm confident he will work through it. He obviously knows what he is doing - it's all about in-game adjustments.
that doesn't excuse his jogging bootlegs. especially the one that could've separated his shoulder and needed Aiyuk take away an INT. There were other times he locked on to players and ignoring the other routes. He just needs to take what the defense gives us

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tbf i was worried he hit that rookie wall in the first half. that wasnt a great first half (even witht he two TD) he was averaging 3 yards per attemmpt and had like 30 yards. My concerns were alleviated in the 2nd half

The only thing i m worried about is some throws we are getting a bit lucky some of those throws could easily be picks (last few games there has been more than a few batted balls that go straight threw the air)

He has had 6 turnover worthy plays in his last 141 attempts. That his a pretty high rate.

Is this an official stat somewhere or just your opinion/observation?

Pretty sure PFF tracks that.

Yes. PFF tracks them. Fans are free to take them with a grain of salt. But someone brought the subject up and I brought up objective data that correlates with their statement.

Gotcha. How does Purdy fair compared to other QB's during that stretch or for the season? I don't have PFF access otherwise I'd go look myself.
Originally posted by 9ers4eva:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Bwahaha. What?

We usually win every game even with blunders.

Figured your energy would be different this time around. I'm sure it doesn't have anything to do with who the QB is, huh?

Should a rook with 3 starts be held to the same standard as a guy with 50 starts?

The standard is starting QB. Right now BP13 is starter. He's putting the league on notice. As coach says, we have to finish the season off the right way. In playoffs, our opponents will not give us a pass because our QB is a rook with a few starts. They will try to end our season all the same. He's playing like a 10 year vet.
Originally posted by NCommand:
We all saw that silly claim by you two. Funny how the goal posts moved and you won't touch it now save for standard deflecting.

It's all good though. Glad you two now understand how unfair that criticism was (no matter the QB).

Unfair to expect the QB to read the defense?

But you are are right. It's all good now. We actually have a very productive offense with a QB who can make all the throws, has good pocket presence, and can actually move.

Ragnow > Donald. Never forget.
Originally posted by FunkyChicken:
The standard is starting QB. Right now BP13 is starter. He's putting the league on notice. As coach says, we have to finish the season off the right way. In playoffs, our opponents will not give us a pass because our QB is a rook with a few starts. They will try to end our season all the same. He's playing like a 10 year vet.

Starting qbs aren't all the same. Tom Brady should read things better than Justin Fields. Every young player deserves some grace as they develop.
Originally posted by Furlow:
Originally posted by YACBros85:
Originally posted by Jcool:
Originally posted by Furlow:
Originally posted by YACBros85:
Originally posted by ritz126:
Originally posted by Furlow:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by tankle104:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by tankle104:
Originally posted by qnnhan7:

This one I thought George should've had. Purdy threaded and it was there for George, hit him in the chest.

Yeah, but Purdy needed to throw that just a split second faster.

when people ask "how much more room for improvement does he have?" - those kind of plays come to mind for me because he'll get better with reps. The anticipation, accuracy, etc. he already does a fine job with those but he has so much more room for improvement when it comes to just operating this offense - think 2016 falcons.
after the first two TDs he started holding the ball a little longer, not running the bootleg fast enough.. i hope it's not getting to his head

You have to remember that there is more than enough film on him for defenses to game plan and try to make him uncomfortable - also, he is most likely seeing new coverages and his "go-to" plays are probably getting unique formations. I think it's just part of him being a rookie.

typically around games 6-12 or so are when rookie qb start to hit a little bump, I'm confident he will work through it. He obviously knows what he is doing - it's all about in-game adjustments.
that doesn't excuse his jogging bootlegs. especially the one that could've separated his shoulder and needed Aiyuk take away an INT. There were other times he locked on to players and ignoring the other routes. He just needs to take what the defense gives us

🤡

tbf i was worried he hit that rookie wall in the first half. that wasnt a great first half (even witht he two TD) he was averaging 3 yards per attemmpt and had like 30 yards. My concerns were alleviated in the 2nd half

The only thing i m worried about is some throws we are getting a bit lucky some of those throws could easily be picks (last few games there has been more than a few batted balls that go straight threw the air)

He has had 6 turnover worthy plays in his last 141 attempts. That his a pretty high rate.

Is this an official stat somewhere or just your opinion/observation?

Pretty sure PFF tracks that.

Yes. PFF tracks them. Fans are free to take them with a grain of salt. But someone brought the subject up and I brought up objective data that correlates with their statement.

Gotcha. How does Purdy fair compared to other QB's during that stretch or for the season? I don't have PFF access otherwise I'd go look myself.

Jimmy was at a rate of 2.9%. Josh Allen is at 5.4%. Patrick Mahomes is at 2.7%. Tom Brady is at 2.8%. Jalen Hurts is at 2.1%. Tua is at 4.8%. Purdy is at 4.3%.
QB of the future. He's outstanding in every phase. He throws touchdowns and wins games.

Interesting to compare Trey and Brock. Someone could probably write a book about the NFL draft process and what traits are being overvalued and what traits are being undervalued.
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