QB Brock Purdy Thread

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
9-11 is about right. That's not top 5 which is what I said. I just don't want to see the 49ers pay him like a top 5 QB at this point. If he signs a 4 year deal and preforms well during that time he'll still be young enough to sign a bigger deal. He'sging to get a massive amount of money for sure. Even if he gets $27-$32 mil per year it's an enormous increase for him. I doubt he'll starve over the next few years.

I' know tha tthe league is signing guys for obscene amounts of money but that doen't mean it's right. This escalation can't continue forever.

No matter how much you don't want to see it...it's going to keep happening.

It's all about the details and structure of the contract. Don't get fooled by the APY numbers that will come out first.

Also there is no way in hell he's signing for just $27-32 mil per year. Though his cap hits may be around that level and obviously spread out.

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
9-11 is about right. That's not top 5 which is what I said. I just don't want to see the 49ers pay him like a top 5 QB at this point. If he signs a 4 year deal and preforms well during that time he'll still be young enough to sign a bigger deal. He'sging to get a massive amount of money for sure. Even if he gets $27-$32 mil per year it's an enormous increase for him. I doubt he'll starve over the next few years.

I' know tha tthe league is signing guys for obscene amounts of money but that doen't mean it's right. This escalation can't continue forever.

No matter how much you don't want to see it...it's going to keep happening.

It's all about the details and structure of the contract. Don't get fooled by the APY numbers that will come out first.

Also there is no way in hell he's signing for just $27-32 mil per year. Though his cap hits may be around that level and obviously spread out.

Do you think salaries can keeo rising at the current rate? If they do they'll be getting $100 million per year by 2035. How much do you think tickets will cost then? If salaries for the fans were rising at that rate it wouldn't matter but eventually there has to be a breaking point. My guess is the league and the players association will need to come together and agree on player caps as well as team caps.

What are the players going to do? Go back to looking for a real job working in a store or driving a truck? There's no where else where they can come close to making what they make now. No place. I don't want to hear the old crap about their careers being short. We all know that but they chose to be football players. If they have any type of career at all they end up doing PR work or getting a TV deal as a commentator. The ones that don't go out and find a regular job. Something they would have done anyway if they hadn't been signed by an NFL team.

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
Do you think salaries can keeo rising at the current rate? If they do they'll be getting $100 million per year by 2035. How much do you think tickets will cost then? If salaries for the fans were rising at that rate it wouldn't matter but eventually there has to be a breaking point. My guess is the league and the players association will need to come together and agree on player caps as well as team caps.

What are the players going to do? Go back to looking for a real job working in a store or driving a truck? There's no where else where they can come close to making what they make now. No place. I don't want to hear the old crap about their careers being short. We all know that but they chose to be football players. If they have any type of career at all they end up doing PR work or getting a TV deal as a commentator. The ones that don't go out and find a regular job. Something they would have done anyway if they hadn't been signed by an NFL team.

For me, this isn't a question about rising salary costs in general. It's a question of whether demonstrably bad decision making should continue to be emulated by other teams around the league.

I don't want to sign a QB for x amount of dollars because the Dolphins signed Tua for similar amounts of money. It's just a bad decision. This doesn't necessarily have to apply to us and Brock, but we should make our own evaluation and negotiate on our terms regardless of what other teams do, as much as possible.

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
9-11 is about right. That's not top 5 which is what I said. I just don't want to see the 49ers pay him like a top 5 QB at this point. If he signs a 4 year deal and preforms well during that time he'll still be young enough to sign a bigger deal. He'sging to get a massive amount of money for sure. Even if he gets $27-$32 mil per year it's an enormous increase for him. I doubt he'll starve over the next few years.

I' know tha tthe league is signing guys for obscene amounts of money but that doen't mean it's right. This escalation can't continue forever.

No matter how much you don't want to see it...it's going to keep happening.

It's all about the details and structure of the contract. Don't get fooled by the APY numbers that will come out first.

Also there is no way in hell he's signing for just $27-32 mil per year. Though his cap hits may be around that level and obviously spread out.

Do you think salaries can keeo rising at the current rate? If they do they'll be getting $100 million per year by 2035. How much do you think tickets will cost then? If salaries for the fans were rising at that rate it wouldn't matter but eventually there has to be a breaking point. My guess is the league and the players association will need to come together and agree on player caps as well as team caps.

What are the players going to do? Go back to looking for a real job working in a store or driving a truck? There's no where else where they can come close to making what they make now. No place. I don't want to hear the old crap about their careers being short. We all know that but they chose to be football players. If they have any type of career at all they end up doing PR work or getting a TV deal as a commentator. The ones that don't go out and find a regular job. Something they would have done anyway if they hadn't been signed by an NFL team.

I don't disagree with you but it takes the whole league to do this. Can't have one team make a stand because there will be plenty of other teams happy to sign good players that team isn't willing to pay.

If anything we're lucky that the stupid Browns didn't screw everyone over. They gave Watson the fully guaranteed deal which is insane and I'm oh so happy it bit them in the ass and that other team's didn't continue the trend...though the agents clearly tried.

Originally posted by genus49:
I don't disagree with you but it takes the whole league to do this. Can't have one team make a stand because there will be plenty of other teams happy to sign good players that team isn't willing to pay.

If anything we're lucky that the stupid Browns didn't screw everyone over. They gave Watson the fully guaranteed deal which is insane and I'm oh so happy it bit them in the ass and that other team's didn't continue the trend...though the agents clearly tried.

Yeah it's all about the structure and incentives anyway. They could throw 65 million a year at purdy if it's full of incentives that will be nearly impossible to hit. The guaranteed number is all that matters and the way it's loaded.

If he wants bragging right and has to throw 6000 yards to get 65 million who cares. It's just potential worth all that matters is the guarantees. And if he does somehow manage to hit all his incentives we will be thrilled because we will have to be extremely good as a team for him to.

Originally posted by elguapo:
what you're forgetting is that Mahomes was part of the reason their offense was not good this year. He is part of the problem. Just because you caused a fire and put it out, does NOT mean you're a hero and a comeback king. Unbelievable how people forget this, it's hilarious.

Mahomes is a great quarterback, but he is not the best quarterback in the league right now and he certainly is not even in the top 10 when it comes to Super Bowl performances 🤣

I get it. I never said he played great. I agree with you that a lot of the times a comeback is only necessary because of poor play early on. He had a down season for sure, but a lot of that had to do with the exact same reasons Brock had a down year. And just like Brock, even the down year wasn't a "bad" year.

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
I' know tha tthe league is signing guys for obscene amounts of money but that doen't mean it's right. This escalation can't continue forever.

It's not up to the 49ers to make the NFL stop operating in the manner in which it does.

We cant tell Purdy's camp "I know that this is how much money QBs make after their rookie deal, but we dont believe thats how it should work....so we arent going to pay you nearly as much as other QBs who you have been objectively better than."

Now, we can all hope that he signs a team friendly deal, but we shouldnt count on it.

I didn't say it was up to the 49ers. It is upto the temas. Someone has to start taking a stand. It shouldn't be an insult to a player is he "only" gets $35 million per year. Whatever happened to paying a player based on actual value.

I've sais many times that I think Purdytis a good QB and capable of leading the team to a SB win. It doesn't take an elite QB to win a SB. Len Dawson, Jim McMahon, Doug Williams, Jeff Hostetler, Mark Rypian, Trent Difer, Brad Johnson and Nick Foles all won a SB. I thonk Purdy is better than all of them. The Niners have shown they can get to the SB with out having a great QB. They've done it 3 times in the last 13 years.

I mean....thats exactly what you are saying. You say someone has to take a stand, and you are advocating that to be us. That's not our job. And yes, its absolutely an insult to Brock Purdy to offer him $35m when inferior QBs are making almost double that.

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
Do you think salaries can keeo rising at the current rate? If they do they'll be getting $100 million per year by 2035. How much do you think tickets will cost then? If salaries for the fans were rising at that rate it wouldn't matter but eventually there has to be a breaking point. My guess is the league and the players association will need to come together and agree on player caps as well as team caps.

I don''t know that the current rate is sustainable but the cap will continue to rise at a good clip. The NFL has figured ways to generate unheard-of amounts of cash, and there seems to be no limit. Fantasy teams, pay-per-view/subscription-only games, licensing agreements, and on and on, the money just flows. NFL is no longer about your team or my team. It is "packaging the experience" so those with the ability to pay will pay the ticket price, even if it is for only a game or two a year. I see no end of it...and ultimately, the players are the beneficiaries.

In addition to all this, last August the NFL voted to allow private equity investor groups to invest in individual teams. Six groups were approved who could invest in up to 4 teams each. The total amounts to $500,000,000 per team. This will allow teams to make even greater use of their facilities for major events like Taylor Swift concerts which bring in boatloads of money to a region.

Excuse the side track, but with billionaire owners willing spent their cash to make their toy look shinier than the next guy, I see no reason to hold money back from Brock Purdy in this contract. Whatever deal he signs now will look like a bargain in four years.

Originally posted by TheWooLick:
Mahomes is a great QB who has lost multiple Super Bowls and s**t the bed in one of them.

Outstanding career summary.

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
Do you think salaries can keeo rising at the current rate? If they do they'll be getting $100 million per year by 2035. How much do you think tickets will cost then? If salaries for the fans were rising at that rate it wouldn't matter but eventually there has to be a breaking point.

You're misunderstanding revenue sharing. If the NFL makes more money, the salary cap limit increases.

NFL teams are then required to spend at least 89% of that cap space over 4-year periods.

They "HAVE TO" spend it on the players. Which makes sense, since they're the ones running, jumping, blocking, and catching.

If they weren't getting it, the owners are pocketing it. That doesnt make anything more "level" or "calm." When the NFL doesn't bring in so much revenue in a calendar year, you will see contract figures take a dip,....naturally.

But you seem to be suggesting that the players themselves are causing the salary cap to increase by "outdoing" previous players,.....so just wanted to make sure it's clear we get that that's NOT the case.

In 2024, the NFL is expected to generate over $12 billion from American broadcasters alone! No ticket sales, memorabilia, et. al.
This figure highlights the league's significant growth and popularity over the years.

Comparatively, in 2004, the NFL's total league revenue (including all of those things) was about $5.8 billion.

Originally posted by dj43:

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
Do you think salaries can keeo rising at the current rate? If they do they'll be getting $100 million per year by 2035. How much do you think tickets will cost then? If salaries for the fans were rising at that rate it wouldn't matter but eventually there has to be a breaking point. My guess is the league and the players association will need to come together and agree on player caps as well as team caps.

I don''t know that the current rate is sustainable but the cap will continue to rise at a good clip. The NFL has figured ways to generate unheard-of amounts of cash, and there seems to be no limit. Fantasy teams, pay-per-view/subscription-only games, licensing agreements, and on and on, the money just flows. NFL is no longer about your team or my team. It is "packaging the experience" so those with the ability to pay will pay the ticket price, even if it is for only a game or two a year. I see no end of it...and ultimately, the players are the beneficiaries.

In addition to all this, last August the NFL voted to allow private equity investor groups to invest in individual teams. Six groups were approved who could invest in up to 4 teams each. The total amounts to $500,000,000 per team. This will allow teams to make even greater use of their facilities for major events like Taylor Swift concerts which bring in boatloads of money to a region.

Excuse the side track, but with billionaire owners willing spent their cash to make their toy look shinier than the next guy, I see no reason to hold money back from Brock Purdy in this contract. Whatever deal he signs now will look like a bargain in four years.

I sometimes wonder about what might ruin football in the future. 8, 10 years or more from now, for the casual/common/everyday fan.
Things like, salaries so high, the League so revenue-driven, to the point that somehow, the cost to watch a single game at home, becomes no less than $500. A SINGLE GAME: $500.00.
Because everything has become streamed, or You-tubed, or Apple-tv'd, or otherwise no longer available on ANY of the networks.

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:

9-11 is about right. That's not top 5 which is what I said. I just don't want to see the 49ers pay him like a top 5 QB at this point. If he signs a 4 year deal and preforms well during that time he'll still be young enough to sign a bigger deal. He'sging to get a massive amount of money for sure. Even if he gets $27-$32 mil per year it's an enormous increase for him. I doubt he'll starve over the next few years.

I' know tha tthe league is signing guys for obscene amounts of money but that doen't mean it's right. This escalation can't continue forever.

No matter how much you don't want to see it...it's going to keep happening.

It's all about the details and structure of the contract. Don't get fooled by the APY numbers that will come out first.

Also there is no way in hell he's signing for just $27-32 mil per year. Though his cap hits may be around that level and obviously spread out.

Do you think salaries can keeo rising at the current rate? If they do they'll be getting $100 million per year by 2035. How much do you think tickets will cost then? If salaries for the fans were rising at that rate it wouldn't matter but eventually there has to be a breaking point. My guess is the league and the players association will need to come together and agree on player caps as well as team caps.

What are the players going to do? Go back to looking for a real job working in a store or driving a truck? There's no where else where they can come close to making what they make now. No place. I don't want to hear the old crap about their careers being short. We all know that but they chose to be football players. If they have any type of career at all they end up doing PR work or getting a TV deal as a commentator. The ones that don't go out and find a regular job. Something they would have done anyway if they hadn't been signed by an NFL team.

Tickets cost whatever people are willing to pay, salaries have nothing to do with it.
So much money comes from TV, licensing, gambling etc. NFL revenue has skyrocketed. Only 48% of NFL revenue goes to player salaries, the lowest of the major sports. MLB, by comparison, uses 54% of revenue for salaries.

Originally posted by random49er:

Originally posted by TheWooLick:

Mahomes is a great QB who has lost multiple Super Bowls and s**t the bed in one of them.

Outstanding career summary.

It wasn't meant to be a summary. He might be the GOAT but he was terrible on Sunday in the Super Bowl.

Originally posted by TheWooLick:

Originally posted by random49er:

Originally posted by TheWooLick:
Mahomes is a great QB who has lost multiple Super Bowls and s**t the bed in one of them.

Outstanding career summary.

It wasn't meant to be a summary. He might be the GOAT but he was terrible on Sunday in the Super Bowl.

you can add 6 of 8 qtrs against us in the SB also

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

Originally posted by elguapo:
what you're forgetting is that Mahomes was part of the reason their offense was not good this year. He is part of the problem. Just because you caused a fire and put it out, does NOT mean you're a hero and a comeback king. Unbelievable how people forget this, it's hilarious.

Mahomes is a great quarterback, but he is not the best quarterback in the league right now and he certainly is not even in the top 10 when it comes to Super Bowl performances 🤣

I get it. I never said he played great. I agree with you that a lot of the times a comeback is only necessary because of poor play early on. He had a down season for sure, but a lot of that had to do with the exact same reasons Brock had a down year. And just like Brock, even the down year wasn't a "bad" year.

I agree 💯