QB Brock Purdy Thread

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by 49ersRing:

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by 49ersRing:

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by 49ersRing:

Originally posted by YACBros85:
If you adjust for the dropped passes, Purdy would have completed 71.4% of his passes. He also had a 1st down rate of 42.9% which was his best yet and is well above league average. He also was 50% on 3rd down with a TD. We had 12 total drives and only faced 8 3rd down situations. We were Purdy damn efficient on 1st and 2nd down.

There's no reason to adjust for dropped passes since few of them were on accurate throws. People were calling that throw to Jennings a drop, but Purdy under threw it by a good 10 yards allowing the DB to break it up. Should not be considered a drop.

That wasn't even recorded as a drop. Nice of you to assume just to try and counter my post.

Did I say you were considering it a drop? Which "drops" are you referring to? None of the "drops" were on well placed throws and therefore should not be counted.

I brought up drops and you just assumed that one of them was the Jennings play. That was you. I never brought up which passes they were. Now you want me to tell you which ones so you can try and debate me on whether they were on Purdy or the receiver. I will make it simple for you. If it is recorded as a drop than the receiver should have caught it. Plain and simple.

That's on you for not pointing out which throws you were arbitrarily categorizing as drops. This is the Purdy thread, it really doesn't matter what level of fault the WR has, because a better throw would have been caught which is the part of the equation that Brock Purdy is responsible for.

No. That is on you for making dumb assumptions.

On the contrary, it could just as well have been perfect throws and the receivers could have dropped them anyway. Like I said, if it is recorded as a drop, the receiver should have caught it. Because this is the NFL and they get paid millions of dollars to catch the football. If the passes were contested, they wouldn't be considered drops. Also, the QB has a lot going on around them to be expected to make perfect throws on ever pass. Especially with pressure in their face. Have you ever heard of a catch radius?

So the QB doesn't get paid millions to throw an accurate pass? We all watched the game yesterday, none of those "drops" were on perfect passes. If you want to criticize the WRs for not catching imperfect passes, then do it in their threads. Purdy is responsible for making an accurate pass and you're trying to let him completely off the hook. Drops are an arbitrary subjective stat, incompletions are not, and Purdy, like all QBs, earned the completion percentage he had yesterday.

Originally posted by 49ersRing:

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by 49ersRing:

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by 49ersRing:

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by 49ersRing:

Originally posted by YACBros85:
If you adjust for the dropped passes, Purdy would have completed 71.4% of his passes. He also had a 1st down rate of 42.9% which was his best yet and is well above league average. He also was 50% on 3rd down with a TD. We had 12 total drives and only faced 8 3rd down situations. We were Purdy damn efficient on 1st and 2nd down.

There's no reason to adjust for dropped passes since few of them were on accurate throws. People were calling that throw to Jennings a drop, but Purdy under threw it by a good 10 yards allowing the DB to break it up. Should not be considered a drop.

That wasn't even recorded as a drop. Nice of you to assume just to try and counter my post.

Did I say you were considering it a drop? Which "drops" are you referring to? None of the "drops" were on well placed throws and therefore should not be counted.

I brought up drops and you just assumed that one of them was the Jennings play. That was you. I never brought up which passes they were. Now you want me to tell you which ones so you can try and debate me on whether they were on Purdy or the receiver. I will make it simple for you. If it is recorded as a drop than the receiver should have caught it. Plain and simple.

That's on you for not pointing out which throws you were arbitrarily categorizing as drops. This is the Purdy thread, it really doesn't matter what level of fault the WR has, because a better throw would have been caught which is the part of the equation that Brock Purdy is responsible for.

No. That is on you for making dumb assumptions.

On the contrary, it could just as well have been perfect throws and the receivers could have dropped them anyway. Like I said, if it is recorded as a drop, the receiver should have caught it. Because this is the NFL and they get paid millions of dollars to catch the football. If the passes were contested, they wouldn't be considered drops. Also, the QB has a lot going on around them to be expected to make perfect throws on ever pass. Especially with pressure in their face. Have you ever heard of a catch radius?

So the QB doesn't get paid millions to throw an accurate pass? We all watched the game yesterday, none of those "drops" were on perfect passes. If you want to criticize the WRs for not catching imperfect passes, then do it in their threads. Purdy is responsible for making an accurate pass and you're trying to let him completely off the hook. Drops are an arbitrary subjective stat, incompletions are not, and Purdy, like all QBs, earned the completion percentage he had yesterday.

I guess you skim a lot? I explained the perfect pass thing in my post. Please reread.

You don't get to decide what is an arbitrary stat and what is not. If you don't like my post, ignore it and move the hell on.

Originally posted by DaleGribble:

Originally posted by 49ersRing:

Originally posted by YACBros85:
If you adjust for the dropped passes, Purdy would have completed 71.4% of his passes. He also had a 1st down rate of 42.9% which was his best yet and is well above league average. He also was 50% on 3rd down with a TD. We had 12 total drives and only faced 8 3rd down situations. We were Purdy damn efficient on 1st and 2nd down.

There's no reason to adjust for dropped passes since few of them were on accurate throws. People were calling that throw to Jennings a drop, but Purdy under threw it by a good 10 yards allowing the DB to break it up. Should not be considered a drop.

LMAO utterly ridiculous take,you couldn't be anymore transparent.

He seems only interested in creating space for Lance to take over at QB next year.

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by 49ersRing:

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by 49ersRing:

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by 49ersRing:

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by 49ersRing:

Originally posted by YACBros85:
If you adjust for the dropped passes, Purdy would have completed 71.4% of his passes. He also had a 1st down rate of 42.9% which was his best yet and is well above league average. He also was 50% on 3rd down with a TD. We had 12 total drives and only faced 8 3rd down situations. We were Purdy damn efficient on 1st and 2nd down.

There's no reason to adjust for dropped passes since few of them were on accurate throws. People were calling that throw to Jennings a drop, but Purdy under threw it by a good 10 yards allowing the DB to break it up. Should not be considered a drop.

That wasn't even recorded as a drop. Nice of you to assume just to try and counter my post.

Did I say you were considering it a drop? Which "drops" are you referring to? None of the "drops" were on well placed throws and therefore should not be counted.

I brought up drops and you just assumed that one of them was the Jennings play. That was you. I never brought up which passes they were. Now you want me to tell you which ones so you can try and debate me on whether they were on Purdy or the receiver. I will make it simple for you. If it is recorded as a drop than the receiver should have caught it. Plain and simple.

That's on you for not pointing out which throws you were arbitrarily categorizing as drops. This is the Purdy thread, it really doesn't matter what level of fault the WR has, because a better throw would have been caught which is the part of the equation that Brock Purdy is responsible for.

No. That is on you for making dumb assumptions.

On the contrary, it could just as well have been perfect throws and the receivers could have dropped them anyway. Like I said, if it is recorded as a drop, the receiver should have caught it. Because this is the NFL and they get paid millions of dollars to catch the football. If the passes were contested, they wouldn't be considered drops. Also, the QB has a lot going on around them to be expected to make perfect throws on ever pass. Especially with pressure in their face. Have you ever heard of a catch radius?

So the QB doesn't get paid millions to throw an accurate pass? We all watched the game yesterday, none of those "drops" were on perfect passes. If you want to criticize the WRs for not catching imperfect passes, then do it in their threads. Purdy is responsible for making an accurate pass and you're trying to let him completely off the hook. Drops are an arbitrary subjective stat, incompletions are not, and Purdy, like all QBs, earned the completion percentage he had yesterday.

I guess you skim a lot? I explained the perfect pass thing in my post. Please reread.

You don't get to decide what is an arbitrary stat and what is not. If you don't like my post, ignore it and move the hell on.

I don't need to decide what an arbitrary stat is, because drops are clearly subjective and thus arbitrary.

Originally posted by Furlow:
That's 100% correct. '94 was the only post season that he put it all together.

Lol..."He" doesn't play by himself though. Since this is football, he has to play with 10 other guys to make it work.

Just wish you could've understood this with our last starting QB. You'd then understand why I was right all along and you were wrong about a QB upgrade being very possible.

If you are not rooting for the best QB on the roster to start next year then you are a fan of a qb and not the team.

let's enjoy this amazing season now and worry about next year then.

Originally posted by 49ersRing:

Originally posted by DaleGribble:

Originally posted by 49ersRing:

Originally posted by YACBros85:
If you adjust for the dropped passes, Purdy would have completed 71.4% of his passes. He also had a 1st down rate of 42.9% which was his best yet and is well above league average. He also was 50% on 3rd down with a TD. We had 12 total drives and only faced 8 3rd down situations. We were Purdy damn efficient on 1st and 2nd down.

There's no reason to adjust for dropped passes since few of them were on accurate throws. People were calling that throw to Jennings a drop, but Purdy under threw it by a good 10 yards allowing the DB to break it up. Should not be considered a drop.

LMAO utterly ridiculous take,you couldn't be anymore transparent.

Transparent that the QB shouldn't be let off the hook for drops that are a result of poor ball placement? We don't need to make excuses for Purdy on those plays. I doubt he would blame the WR for them.

Since he took over, Purdy is 5-0 with a 67.4 comp.%, 1130 yds, 10 TD, 3 INT, and an 8.01 Y/A. As a 7th round rookie who started the season as the 3rd stringer.

Shut up.

Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:

Originally posted by NCommand:
A ton of drops but his vision was pretty poor today (for him). He had some serious tunnel vision. Arm strength or timing/mechanics were off. Got lucky too.

But when needed, he came through. And he was tested a lot today.

It sure seems like Kyle avoids the outside when the heat is on. Everything in breaking. Oddly familiar.

No, again, that's due to personnel and opposing scheme. Purdy was not doing particularly well throwing downfield this game, the line was not doing particularly well protecting him, and they were bringing some blitzes. You can't do seven step drops when the QB is getting killed.

But the interception does prove that Kyle thinks differently of Purdy. That's one he calls for Lance. Same with the other play-action passes.

EDIT stupid new phone has terrible autocorrect AI.

Haha. Autocorrect gets me every day.

I agree about the personnel. They're built for short area quickness and feeding in the middle of the field. This is where Kyle likes to live.

The throwing outside the numbers seems to be more of a Kyle-design than a QB- thing; which we originally thought.

The INT to me is just one of Kyle's 1 or 2 calculated deep shots per game. He almost had it. Granted the QB still has to trust it, the receiver has to win and the play design has to beat the coverage. It didn't.

Did you mean the roll out to the left first? That Kyle would call that for Trey and not Jimmy?

Yeah no it doesn't. One need only look at Trey Lance to see that that is incorrect.



Now, is that the QB making decisions on where to throw? Sometimes it is. Regardless, when it's not, when the scheme avoids the outside, mostly it's because of who the QB is that is playing, as shown here.

And as for the shot, one need only look at the Bears game to see that the QB matters in how often those are called. Several were called in week 1. I think Trey was 3 of 4 on them.

TBF, those are Trey's strengths (arm). 1on1 outside and run run run, deeper shot. Notice how the middle disappears with him?

Yeah the point is both the execution of the play (where the QB goes with the ball) and the plays called depend on the personnel to a large degree. Kyle isn't just blindly running a system. Everything he does is dialed in to suit the personnel as best as he possibly can. Which means different QBs will have different plays, and when it's the same plays they'll be executed differently.

So you're saying Kyle calls plays to fit the strengths of his personnel? Who would've thought?

Originally posted by Niners99:

Originally posted by 49ersRing:

Originally posted by DaleGribble:

Originally posted by 49ersRing:

Originally posted by YACBros85:
If you adjust for the dropped passes, Purdy would have completed 71.4% of his passes. He also had a 1st down rate of 42.9% which was his best yet and is well above league average. He also was 50% on 3rd down with a TD. We had 12 total drives and only faced 8 3rd down situations. We were Purdy damn efficient on 1st and 2nd down.

There's no reason to adjust for dropped passes since few of them were on accurate throws. People were calling that throw to Jennings a drop, but Purdy under threw it by a good 10 yards allowing the DB to break it up. Should not be considered a drop.

LMAO utterly ridiculous take,you couldn't be anymore transparent.

Transparent that the QB shouldn't be let off the hook for drops that are a result of poor ball placement? We don't need to make excuses for Purdy on those plays. I doubt he would blame the WR for them.

Since he took over, Purdy is 5-0 with a 67.4 comp.%, 1130 yds, 10 TD, 3 INT, and an 8.01 Y/A. As a 7th round rookie who started the season as the 3rd stringer.

Shut up.

What's the point of a discussion forum if we're only allowed to sit here in lockstep with one another making posts about how Purdy is perfect and without flaw.

For years, it was the same with Jimmy. He was perfect and you'd be called a hater for even suggesting he ever did anything wrong. Then a 7th round rookie came in and the offense looked way better leading to everyone collectively realizing that Jimmy was actually kind of s**t this entire time and that he was holding us back. Now we're repeating the cycle and Purdy can't be criticized in any way even when we all agree that he's overall playing well.

Originally posted by NineFourNiner:
If you are not rooting for the best QB on the roster to start next year then you are a fan of a qb and not the team.

let's enjoy this amazing season now and worry about next year then.

If Brock wins it all there will be nothing left to prove or worry about

Originally posted by D0PEMAN:

Originally posted by NineFourNiner:
If you are not rooting for the best QB on the roster to start next year then you are a fan of a qb and not the team.

let's enjoy this amazing season now and worry about next year then.

If Brock wins it all there will be nothing left to prove or worry about

Some will say he didn't throw a perfect game thus should not be considered the #1 in the offseason.

Originally posted by D0PEMAN:

Originally posted by NineFourNiner:
If you are not rooting for the best QB on the roster to start next year then you are a fan of a qb and not the team.

let's enjoy this amazing season now and worry about next year then.

If Brock wins it all there will be nothing left to prove or worry about

Why are even talking about that hypothetical with at least 4 playoff games to go? It's not that much different than "what if Jimmy wins MVP" talk from last year or the "what if Jimmy wins the Super Bowl" talk from this and last year.

Originally posted by SlipAndSlideBosa:

Originally posted by D0PEMAN:

Originally posted by NineFourNiner:
If you are not rooting for the best QB on the roster to start next year then you are a fan of a qb and not the team.

let's enjoy this amazing season now and worry about next year then.

If Brock wins it all there will be nothing left to prove or worry about

Some will say he didn't throw a perfect game thus should not be considered the #1 in the offseason.

People can vote about what should or should not be considered on a daily basis till the 1st mini-camp.

My coach is STILL going to do what he thinks is best for his team longterm either way. LoL.

And I trust him to decide alot more than I trust myself deciding from the couch,...so no sweat.

Why is this so hard for people?

Originally posted by D0PEMAN:

Originally posted by NineFourNiner:
If you are not rooting for the best QB on the roster to start next year then you are a fan of a qb and not the team.

let's enjoy this amazing season now and worry about next year then.

If Brock wins it all there will be nothing left to prove or worry about

if Brock wins two playoff games making the NFCCG, i'd assume he's the starter next season regardless of what happens.

Originally posted by 49ersRing:

Originally posted by Furlow:

Originally posted by DaleGribble:

Originally posted by 49ersRing:

Originally posted by DaleGribble:

Originally posted by 49ersRing:

Originally posted by YACBros85:
If you adjust for the dropped passes, Purdy would have completed 71.4% of his passes. He also had a 1st down rate of 42.9% which was his best yet and is well above league average. He also was 50% on 3rd down with a TD. We had 12 total drives and only faced 8 3rd down situations. We were Purdy damn efficient on 1st and 2nd down.

There's no reason to adjust for dropped passes since few of them were on accurate throws. People were calling that throw to Jennings a drop, but Purdy under threw it by a good 10 yards allowing the DB to break it up. Should not be considered a drop.

LMAO utterly ridiculous take,you couldn't be anymore transparent.

Transparent that the QB shouldn't be let off the hook for drops that are a result of poor ball placement? We don't need to make excuses for Purdy on those plays. I doubt he would blame the WR for them.

Stevie Wonder can see your agenda from a mile away.

Seriously what's his deal? Is he a Trey-only supporter or just wants to see the world burn? Lol

Remember when you spent 2 months straight spending hours every day complaining about the slightest wobble in Trey's passes? You should really be quiet about any QB criticism.

You guys LOVE to hang onto that one. It was the off season with not much to talk about. I was firmly on the Trey wagon by the time the season started and he proved the wobble didn't matter. I blame Kyle for his injuries, not him. That said, he's light years behind Purdy and even Jimmy.

But this is the Purdy thread so let's get back on topic. He's leading the league in passer rating since taking over and passes any/all "eye tests." What is the purpose of your nonstop negativity? If you just want to cheerlead for Trey, go do that in his thread. But no, here you are in the Purdy thread making nonsensical criticisms just like you did with Jimmy, just to prop up "your guy." I'm assuming anyway, nothing else makes any sense.