QB Brock Purdy Thread

Originally posted by 49ersRing:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by 49ersRing:

Originally posted by Chance:

Originally posted by Kolohe:

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by Chance:

Originally posted by 49ersRing:

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
I liked Purdy's ability to stay calm and collected in crunch time. It's something he hasn't had the opportunity to showcase yet, and he definitely passed the test.

On the flipside, he had a bunch of things today that I did not like. He predetermined a lot of throws today, and subsequently missed bigger plays. He was also very inaccurate on multiple deep shots, which we haven't really seen. He also moved to his 2nd and 3rd reads just as his previous read was breaking wide open.

Every one of those complaints are things Jimmy did regularly and Brock did today. While today was the first time I had any of those issues with Brock, I can only hope it was a one off thing and not something we have to worry about moving forward.

Overall, happy with the win and Brock's play in crunch time. But a lot of the game I was getting Jimmy vibes, and that's not a good thing.

Can't disagree with any of this. He's gotten a little worse each game. The numbers, particularly QB rating, show this, but it's pretty evident just from the eye test as well. If he keeps declining each game, it won't be long before it's basically like having Jimmy out there, which is not a good thing whenever it's the playoffs.

Worse each game? Lol all based off of the QBR? I'm not saying he doesn't have things he needs to get better at but I don't think he's declined at all every game.

he just won a shootout on the road with the second seed on the line. If this is as bad as Purdy is. - then wow! We are in for a great ride.

you can't expect to blow out everyone - which is what we've done for most of his starts. So you're not going to get those beautiful stats every game, hell most games you won't.

49ersRing and his negative vibes, you should've seen him in the gameday. You could change his name to CowboysRing and you wouldn't know the difference.

It's one thing to be pessimistic and have a factual basis to your opinion, it's another to just sling meaningless s**t at a wall for the sake of bringing the conversation down to your level. Not even worth a response.

It's literally factual that he's gotten worse each game.

based off what?

QB Rating, a commonly accepted metric that the NFL has used for decades and still uses officially. We can debate all we want about it's effectiveness of isolating QB play from other factors, but it can't be argued that Brock Purdy has declined in that specific metric every single week he's been the starter.

so just that lol, i thought you had something good to go off of

PURDY great QB. He throws touchdowns and wins games.

Originally posted by 49ersRing:

Originally posted by Chance:

Originally posted by Kolohe:

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by Chance:

Originally posted by 49ersRing:

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
I liked Purdy's ability to stay calm and collected in crunch time. It's something he hasn't had the opportunity to showcase yet, and he definitely passed the test.

On the flipside, he had a bunch of things today that I did not like. He predetermined a lot of throws today, and subsequently missed bigger plays. He was also very inaccurate on multiple deep shots, which we haven't really seen. He also moved to his 2nd and 3rd reads just as his previous read was breaking wide open.

Every one of those complaints are things Jimmy did regularly and Brock did today. While today was the first time I had any of those issues with Brock, I can only hope it was a one off thing and not something we have to worry about moving forward.

Overall, happy with the win and Brock's play in crunch time. But a lot of the game I was getting Jimmy vibes, and that's not a good thing.

Can't disagree with any of this. He's gotten a little worse each game. The numbers, particularly QB rating, show this, but it's pretty evident just from the eye test as well. If he keeps declining each game, it won't be long before it's basically like having Jimmy out there, which is not a good thing whenever it's the playoffs.

Worse each game? Lol all based off of the QBR? I'm not saying he doesn't have things he needs to get better at but I don't think he's declined at all every game.

he just won a shootout on the road with the second seed on the line. If this is as bad as Purdy is. - then wow! We are in for a great ride.

you can't expect to blow out everyone - which is what we've done for most of his starts. So you're not going to get those beautiful stats every game, hell most games you won't.

49ersRing and his negative vibes, you should've seen him in the gameday. You could change his name to CowboysRing and you wouldn't know the difference.

It's one thing to be pessimistic and have a factual basis to your opinion, it's another to just sling meaningless s**t at a wall for the sake of bringing the conversation down to your level. Not even worth a response.

It's literally factual that he's gotten worse each game.

A) you're overstating the usage of "worse" by using a single metric that almost anyone would agree, is not the be-all-end-all (it's arguably a poor metric to judge a QBs performance without context).

B) if anything he's been remarkably consistent in each of his starts. Today he faced his most adversity, but also showed the ability to lead game winning drives in the clutch.

C) this team has reeled off 5 consecutive wins with Brock at the helm against pretty good teams in each game. That speaks to consistency, not regression. He's also thrown for two scores in each of his starts. Again, consistency.

D) people are allowed to have games that aren't as good without fans whining about the sky falling.

E) What does one QBs playoff performances have anything to do with another QB? This is just nonsensical b******t. There's literally zero correlation to Brock's QB rating and Jimmy's playoff performances. It's not worth the waste in brain cells to try and figure out your flawed logic to arrive at such a dumb conclusion.

Originally posted by Jakemall:
CMC is the truth. This whole conversation is over if he's not a 9er.

I really hope we can prolong his career with us, his heart can not be taught. Could he play slot WR once his RB days are over?

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by Kolohe:

Originally posted by SLCNiner:

Originally posted by Kolohe:

Originally posted by random49er:

Originally posted by Kolohe:
I believe it would've been 75% defense and 25% Shanahan if they lost. I didn't like some of Shanahan's calls today in the redzone, for instance after Drake Jackson intercepted the ball they should've let CMC or Mason punch it in. And in the beginning of the 3rd quarter, I felt they should've opened with the run. But I think they wanted to try and catch them off guard like they did Washington to start the half.

But the 9ers won, so I'm good.

What about the balls that were dropped and the plays that were missed by the actual players, though?

I mean the defense as a whole is able to get blame (just based on your percentages). Why does every player on offense get a pass?

True, agree with you there. The dropped passes were also frustrating, I just look at the two series that could've swung the momentum heavily in the 9ers favor.

Defense was still disappointing as hell today. I really hope it was overconfidence, partying last night or both. Hands down our worst game since KC, but I'm so proud they pulled it out.

I wanna believe it was partying/hangover and slept late. They looked out of sync pretty much the whole day.

I sure as hell hope it was partying. I think greenlaw was hungover because his play was very uncharacteristic.

if this was the "blueprint" then everyone would be playing us like this since KC. We just were sloppy.

i also think Hufunga is overrated. I REALLY like the kid and think he has a very bright future, but I was shocked he made the pro bowl. He blows coverage often and isn't the best at angles. He isn't bad by any means, but him and Lemminoire are our weak links.

I can say this because the 9ers won, but the frickin refs hand a huge hand in the way the 9ers defense got lit up too. Even the resident ref who was on hand (I forgot his name) mentioned they should've called holding on a couple of plays. Omenihu, Bosa (of course), Ebukam and TY McGill all had obvious holds on them that weren't called all through the game. The only one that got called was the Jordan Willis one, when it was obvious they couldn't hide it and had to call it.

f**k I hate refs with a passion, always ruining the sport.

Originally posted by Chance:

Originally posted by 49ersRing:

Originally posted by Chance:

Originally posted by Kolohe:

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by Chance:

Originally posted by 49ersRing:

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
I liked Purdy's ability to stay calm and collected in crunch time. It's something he hasn't had the opportunity to showcase yet, and he definitely passed the test.

On the flipside, he had a bunch of things today that I did not like. He predetermined a lot of throws today, and subsequently missed bigger plays. He was also very inaccurate on multiple deep shots, which we haven't really seen. He also moved to his 2nd and 3rd reads just as his previous read was breaking wide open.

Every one of those complaints are things Jimmy did regularly and Brock did today. While today was the first time I had any of those issues with Brock, I can only hope it was a one off thing and not something we have to worry about moving forward.

Overall, happy with the win and Brock's play in crunch time. But a lot of the game I was getting Jimmy vibes, and that's not a good thing.

Can't disagree with any of this. He's gotten a little worse each game. The numbers, particularly QB rating, show this, but it's pretty evident just from the eye test as well. If he keeps declining each game, it won't be long before it's basically like having Jimmy out there, which is not a good thing whenever it's the playoffs.

Worse each game? Lol all based off of the QBR? I'm not saying he doesn't have things he needs to get better at but I don't think he's declined at all every game.

he just won a shootout on the road with the second seed on the line. If this is as bad as Purdy is. - then wow! We are in for a great ride.

you can't expect to blow out everyone - which is what we've done for most of his starts. So you're not going to get those beautiful stats every game, hell most games you won't.

49ersRing and his negative vibes, you should've seen him in the gameday. You could change his name to CowboysRing and you wouldn't know the difference.

It's one thing to be pessimistic and have a factual basis to your opinion, it's another to just sling meaningless s**t at a wall for the sake of bringing the conversation down to your level. Not even worth a response.

It's literally factual that he's gotten worse each game.

A) you're overstating the usage of "worse" by using a single metric that almost anyone would agree, is not the be-all-end-all (it's arguably a poor metric to judge a QBs performance without context).

B) if anything he's been remarkably consistent in each of his starts. Today he faced his most adversity, but also showed the ability to lead game winning drives in the clutch.

C) this team has reeled off 5 consecutive wins with Brock at the helm against pretty good teams in each game. That speaks to consistency, not regression. He's also thrown for two scores in each of his starts. Again, consistency.

D) people are allowed to have games that aren't as good without fans whining about the sky falling.

E) What does one QBs playoff performances have anything to do with another QB? This is just nonsensical b******t. There's literally zero correlation to Brock's QB rating and Jimmy's playoff performances. It's not worth the waste in brain cells to try and figure out your flawed logic to arrive at such a dumb conclusion.

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by 49ersRing:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by 49ersRing:

Originally posted by Chance:

Originally posted by Kolohe:

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by Chance:

Originally posted by 49ersRing:

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
I liked Purdy's ability to stay calm and collected in crunch time. It's something he hasn't had the opportunity to showcase yet, and he definitely passed the test.

On the flipside, he had a bunch of things today that I did not like. He predetermined a lot of throws today, and subsequently missed bigger plays. He was also very inaccurate on multiple deep shots, which we haven't really seen. He also moved to his 2nd and 3rd reads just as his previous read was breaking wide open.

Every one of those complaints are things Jimmy did regularly and Brock did today. While today was the first time I had any of those issues with Brock, I can only hope it was a one off thing and not something we have to worry about moving forward.

Overall, happy with the win and Brock's play in crunch time. But a lot of the game I was getting Jimmy vibes, and that's not a good thing.

Can't disagree with any of this. He's gotten a little worse each game. The numbers, particularly QB rating, show this, but it's pretty evident just from the eye test as well. If he keeps declining each game, it won't be long before it's basically like having Jimmy out there, which is not a good thing whenever it's the playoffs.

Worse each game? Lol all based off of the QBR? I'm not saying he doesn't have things he needs to get better at but I don't think he's declined at all every game.

he just won a shootout on the road with the second seed on the line. If this is as bad as Purdy is. - then wow! We are in for a great ride.

you can't expect to blow out everyone - which is what we've done for most of his starts. So you're not going to get those beautiful stats every game, hell most games you won't.

49ersRing and his negative vibes, you should've seen him in the gameday. You could change his name to CowboysRing and you wouldn't know the difference.

It's one thing to be pessimistic and have a factual basis to your opinion, it's another to just sling meaningless s**t at a wall for the sake of bringing the conversation down to your level. Not even worth a response.

It's literally factual that he's gotten worse each game.

based off what?

QB Rating, a commonly accepted metric that the NFL has used for decades and still uses officially. We can debate all we want about it's effectiveness of isolating QB play from other factors, but it can't be argued that Brock Purdy has declined in that specific metric every single week he's been the starter.

so just that lol, i thought you had something good to go off of

If the trend were in the other direction, it'd be all we hear about. The QB rating matches the eye test. He's missed more throws each week. He's come off guys too soon and settled for check downs. He's close to the league lead in Turnover Worthy Throws over the last 4 weeks according to PFF despite only having 2 BTTs.

It's a worrying trend which doesn't change that he's significantly outplayed his predecessor. It's clear that the offense is better with him than it was with Jimmy. It's clear that the team likes him more. The trend is just something to keep an eye on.

Originally posted by tankle104:
Honestly, if you truly understood football then you'd understand that he hasn't regressed. Its why Justin Smith said "stats are for losers" - because if you're looking at just stats, you'll never understand how someone is playing.

yes, the team wasn't nearly as crisp, but if you're suggesting that putting up 37 points on offense and leading two game winning drives as regression, well idk what to tell you. Lol

This guy gets it. It is about how purdy handles the pressure and scores tds on even possessions that aren't sabotaged by bad play calling or offensive line penalties.

It's the whole "it" factor.

The guy got put into a bad spot but bailed out the team. Not only bailed them out twice but also was never really in any danger of failing without even needing a 4th down and we had 18 seconds to spare.

You knew from the first quarter the game was going to be close. We almost broke it open a couple times but in the end purdy played well enough to win the game twice.

He didn't throw a back breaking interception on either drive in crunch time or take bad sacks. He willed the win.

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by glorydayz:
It was funny to keep hearing about the Raiders QB first start when Brock is a Mr. Irrelevant pick and a true rookie. Never even been in a NFL training camp until this year!

lol.. they tried their hardest.. refs too, to make the Raiders the big story this game

Right

If the interception wasn't a catch how could D. Adams catch be considered a catch?

Can't believe there's people in here passionately arguing about a 7th rd rookie having an sub-par game. Lololol

Originally posted by Chance:

Originally posted by 49ersRing:

Originally posted by Chance:

Originally posted by Kolohe:

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by Chance:

Originally posted by 49ersRing:

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
I liked Purdy's ability to stay calm and collected in crunch time. It's something he hasn't had the opportunity to showcase yet, and he definitely passed the test.

On the flipside, he had a bunch of things today that I did not like. He predetermined a lot of throws today, and subsequently missed bigger plays. He was also very inaccurate on multiple deep shots, which we haven't really seen. He also moved to his 2nd and 3rd reads just as his previous read was breaking wide open.

Every one of those complaints are things Jimmy did regularly and Brock did today. While today was the first time I had any of those issues with Brock, I can only hope it was a one off thing and not something we have to worry about moving forward.

Overall, happy with the win and Brock's play in crunch time. But a lot of the game I was getting Jimmy vibes, and that's not a good thing.

Can't disagree with any of this. He's gotten a little worse each game. The numbers, particularly QB rating, show this, but it's pretty evident just from the eye test as well. If he keeps declining each game, it won't be long before it's basically like having Jimmy out there, which is not a good thing whenever it's the playoffs.

Worse each game? Lol all based off of the QBR? I'm not saying he doesn't have things he needs to get better at but I don't think he's declined at all every game.

he just won a shootout on the road with the second seed on the line. If this is as bad as Purdy is. - then wow! We are in for a great ride.

you can't expect to blow out everyone - which is what we've done for most of his starts. So you're not going to get those beautiful stats every game, hell most games you won't.

49ersRing and his negative vibes, you should've seen him in the gameday. You could change his name to CowboysRing and you wouldn't know the difference.

It's one thing to be pessimistic and have a factual basis to your opinion, it's another to just sling meaningless s**t at a wall for the sake of bringing the conversation down to your level. Not even worth a response.

It's literally factual that he's gotten worse each game.

A) you're overstating the usage of "worse" by using a single metric that almost anyone would agree, is not the be-all-end-all (it's arguably a poor metric to judge a QBs performance without context).

B) if anything he's been remarkably consistent in each of his starts. Today he faced his most adversity, but also showed the ability to lead game winning drives in the clutch.

C) this team has reeled off 5 consecutive wins with Brock at the helm against pretty good teams in each game. That speaks to consistency, not regression. He's also thrown for two scores in each of his starts. Again, consistency.

D) people are allowed to have games that aren't as good without fans whining about the sky falling.

E) What does one QBs playoff performances have anything to do with another QB? This is just nonsensical b******t. There's literally zero correlation to Brock's QB rating and Jimmy's playoff performances. It's not worth the waste in brain cells to try and figure out your flawed logic to arrive at such a dumb conclusion.

You throw out QB rating as an accurate metric of QB play, but then say TD passes and wins as a better stat for judging QB play? Those are even worse for accurately judging the QB's play independent of the team.

Originally posted by D0PEMAN:
Can't believe there's people in here passionately arguing about a 7th rd rookie having an sub-par game. Lololol

Brock Purdy should be considered a savior.

Originally posted by Kolohe:

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by Kolohe:

Originally posted by SLCNiner:

Originally posted by Kolohe:

Originally posted by random49er:

Originally posted by Kolohe:
I believe it would've been 75% defense and 25% Shanahan if they lost. I didn't like some of Shanahan's calls today in the redzone, for instance after Drake Jackson intercepted the ball they should've let CMC or Mason punch it in. And in the beginning of the 3rd quarter, I felt they should've opened with the run. But I think they wanted to try and catch them off guard like they did Washington to start the half.

But the 9ers won, so I'm good.

What about the balls that were dropped and the plays that were missed by the actual players, though?

I mean the defense as a whole is able to get blame (just based on your percentages). Why does every player on offense get a pass?

True, agree with you there. The dropped passes were also frustrating, I just look at the two series that could've swung the momentum heavily in the 9ers favor.

Defense was still disappointing as hell today. I really hope it was overconfidence, partying last night or both. Hands down our worst game since KC, but I'm so proud they pulled it out.

I wanna believe it was partying/hangover and slept late. They looked out of sync pretty much the whole day.

I sure as hell hope it was partying. I think greenlaw was hungover because his play was very uncharacteristic.

if this was the "blueprint" then everyone would be playing us like this since KC. We just were sloppy.

i also think Hufunga is overrated. I REALLY like the kid and think he has a very bright future, but I was shocked he made the pro bowl. He blows coverage often and isn't the best at angles. He isn't bad by any means, but him and Lemminoire are our weak links.

I can say this because the 9ers won, but the frickin refs hand a huge hand in the way the 9ers defense got lit up too. Even the resident ref who was on hand (I forgot his name) mentioned they should've called holding on a couple of plays. Omenihu, Bosa (of course), Ebukam and TY McGill all had obvious holds on them that weren't called all through the game. The only one that got called was the Jordan Willis one, when it was obvious they couldn't hide it and had to call it.

f**k I hate refs with a passion, always ruining the sport.

Refs have been awful this season as a whole when it comes to ticky tack plays being called and then egregious fouls not being called.

Exhibit A: Warner clearly face masked that running back and it was clear as daylight to EVERYONE but the refs about what just happened.

how do fans and spectators see obvious fouls and the GROUP of people that are paid to watch for these things, miss them so often?

Originally posted by BoldRedandGold:

Originally posted by tankle104:
Honestly, if you truly understood football then you'd understand that he hasn't regressed. Its why Justin Smith said "stats are for losers" - because if you're looking at just stats, you'll never understand how someone is playing.

yes, the team wasn't nearly as crisp, but if you're suggesting that putting up 37 points on offense and leading two game winning drives as regression, well idk what to tell you. Lol

This guy gets it. It is about how purdy handles the pressure and scores tds on even possessions that aren't sabotaged by bad play calling or offensive line penalties.

It's the whole "it" factor.

The guy got put into a bad spot but bailed out the team. Not only bailed them out twice but also was never really in any danger of failing without even needing a 4th down and we had 18 seconds to spare.

You knew from the first quarter the game was going to be close. We almost broke it open a couple times but in the end purdy played well enough to win the game twice.

He didn't throw a back breaking interception on either drive in crunch time or take bad sacks. He willed the win.

He threw a ball right to a defender on that final drive, but it was dropped. He also had that pass right before the FG attempt that could have gone to anyone. The difference in the game is that Aiyuk caught Purdy's pass when his arm was hit while Gipson caught Stidham's.

Originally posted by glorydayz:

Originally posted by D0PEMAN:
Can't believe there's people in here passionately arguing about a 7th rd rookie having an sub-par game. Lololol

Brock Purdy should be considered a savior.

So far, so Jesus!