QB Brock Purdy Thread

Originally posted by Montana:

Originally posted by libertyforever:
I thought it has been 100% healed.

Kyle said he's definitely not 100%

Got it. Thanks.

Originally posted by Koldo:
Wow.

Purdy haters are slowly crawling into daylight.

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Originally posted by 9erson3:

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by dj43:

Originally posted by ItsX4Number6:
3 games lol. Ditto. How ridiculous. I take it you can't so you got angry. I thought it was a simple question on how you can say these things off of one single game this year. I thought he did fine myself. Like most rookies he had his moments and also has areas to improve. I can't think of a single area where we have enough evidence of uninspired play. I can't think of where he was "very slow" on anything as one gabe as the starter in a monsoon seems insanely stupid to judge.

Pardon the interruption but the "monsoon" excuse is not valid. Go back and look at the game. The "monsoon" started with 8 minutes left in the game. Prior to that, the rain was light to moderate but not unlike many other games in which the rain had little effect on the play.

Lance looked like the inexperienced player that he is. He missed reads. Missed simple throws - his first throw in the game was the same kind of throw this board has skewered Garoppolo for - an overthrow of a wide-open receiver who was on his way to a house call with a more accurate throw.

Don't get me wrong, I want the 49ers to keep him through his rookie contract (I don't think we have a choice) and give him as many opportunities as they can while still keeping winning as the #1 priority. As for now, we have a QB demonstrating all the intangible qualities that are vital to winning. All this talk about Lance's upside is just smoke in the wind. The team loves Purdy and any attempt to install Lance just to "give him experience" will not go down well, IMO.

Idc where someone was drafted - I think Purdy has a high ceiling as well. What the hell dows that mean? That he make throws look at magical as Mahommes?

if he can get the same results as Mahommes in his own style - then that's the same ceiling, in my opinion. I don't see any reason why Brock can't be a top QB in this league if he continues to grow at the pace he has. It's absolutely incredible and if he wasn't a 7th round pick - no one would be saying we should still give Lance a chance.

I think the problem is we all want the best. But on the same tow downplaying Lance over three games the same could be said about Brock's upswing. It's too early either way. I'll give one positive for Trey. His size. Brock was having throws batted down already. Again, not a problem buts let's be even keeled here. Trey has tangibles you look for. He's a beefy stud. Patience. Let's just keep winning and let it play out later.

And let's hope Brock keeps it going.

Batted passes? Brock has 4 in 115 attempts and Trey has 5 in 102 attempts.

I know this may be quite a stretch, and the true answer will come next season when the tape is out there on Brock, but I could totally see him developing into a poor man's Brees. Similar build, very smart, great poise and leadership, arm strength is average. Brock definitely is more mobile then Brees, not much of a comparison there.

Originally posted by 9erson3:

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by dj43:

Originally posted by ItsX4Number6:
3 games lol. Ditto. How ridiculous. I take it you can't so you got angry. I thought it was a simple question on how you can say these things off of one single game this year. I thought he did fine myself. Like most rookies he had his moments and also has areas to improve. I can't think of a single area where we have enough evidence of uninspired play. I can't think of where he was "very slow" on anything as one gabe as the starter in a monsoon seems insanely stupid to judge.

Pardon the interruption but the "monsoon" excuse is not valid. Go back and look at the game. The "monsoon" started with 8 minutes left in the game. Prior to that, the rain was light to moderate but not unlike many other games in which the rain had little effect on the play.

Lance looked like the inexperienced player that he is. He missed reads. Missed simple throws - his first throw in the game was the same kind of throw this board has skewered Garoppolo for - an overthrow of a wide-open receiver who was on his way to a house call with a more accurate throw.

Don't get me wrong, I want the 49ers to keep him through his rookie contract (I don't think we have a choice) and give him as many opportunities as they can while still keeping winning as the #1 priority. As for now, we have a QB demonstrating all the intangible qualities that are vital to winning. All this talk about Lance's upside is just smoke in the wind. The team loves Purdy and any attempt to install Lance just to "give him experience" will not go down well, IMO.

Idc where someone was drafted - I think Purdy has a high ceiling as well. What the hell dows that mean? That he make throws look at magical as Mahommes?

if he can get the same results as Mahommes in his own style - then that's the same ceiling, in my opinion. I don't see any reason why Brock can't be a top QB in this league if he continues to grow at the pace he has. It's absolutely incredible and if he wasn't a 7th round pick - no one would be saying we should still give Lance a chance.

I think the problem is we all want the best. But on the same tow downplaying Lance over three games the same could be said about Brock's upswing. It's too early either way. I'll give one positive for Trey. His size. Brock was having throws batted down already. Again, not a problem buts let's be even keeled here. Trey has tangibles you look for. He's a beefy stud. Patience. Let's just keep winning and let it play out later.

And let's hope Brock keeps it going.

Pretty much where I'm coming from. It's far too early to crown Purdy as unbeatable just as it's far too early and very premature to say Trey "slow and uninspiring" based off of 2 games as a backup and one game in terrible weather is just ridiculous. Hell Fields had a worse game than Trey and now suddenly he's viewed by some as the 2nd best QB of that class. Many, MOST, QBs are far from perfect their first few starts. Brock is literally an outlier but that doesn't mean Trey doesn't have massive potential because he played meh I'm the season opener.

Brock hit the jackpot. He took over a team in it's prime. A team that was already in rhythm and has 4 could be pro bowlers. Trey took over a team with a broken oline, no CMC, and literally no time to gel. It's pretty obvious to most that one situation is better than the next

Originally posted by libertyforever:

Originally posted by dj43:

Originally posted by ItsX4Number6:
3 games lol. Ditto. How ridiculous. I take it you can't so you got angry. I thought it was a simple question on how you can say these things off of one single game this year. I thought he did fine myself. Like most rookies he had his moments and also has areas to improve. I can't think of a single area where we have enough evidence of uninspired play. I can't think of where he was "very slow" on anything as one gabe as the starter in a monsoon seems insanely stupid to judge.

Pardon the interruption but the "monsoon" excuse is not valid. Go back and look at the game. The "monsoon" started with 8 minutes left in the game. Prior to that, the rain was light to moderate but not unlike many other games in which the rain had little effect on the play.

Lance looked like the inexperienced player that he is. He missed reads. Missed simple throws - his first throw in the game was the same kind of throw this board has skewered Garoppolo for - an overthrow of a wide-open receiver who was on his way to a house call with a more accurate throw.

Don't get me wrong, I want the 49ers to keep him through his rookie contract (I don't think we have a choice) and give him as many opportunities as they can while still keeping winning as the #1 priority. As for now, we have a QB demonstrating all the intangible qualities that are vital to winning. All this talk about Lance's upside is just smoke in the wind. The team loves Purdy and any attempt to install Lance just to "give him experience" will not go down well, IMO.

This. Purdy made everything look easy. Trey made everything look hard. I understand Trey is raw. He has high traits for a QB prospect, but as dj43 said, upside is just smoke in the wind.

Purdy has done everything right at this point. I think it would send the locker room a wrong message if Kyle go with Trey next season just to give him the experience. Purdy is polished, but he will definitely benefit tremendously to have a whole offseason of 1st team reps. It is also in our interest to developed Purdy and see how big of a step forward he can take in his game.

No. Jimmy made everything look hard. Trey has barely played - he was our best player in the monsoon game and converted 13 3rd downs and 9 with his legs.

He played well in the HOU game and was our best offensive player in his first game vs AZ. People need to go back and watch those games over every play.

Decisions are not going to be made about next year right now. Let's see Brock in the playoffs - hope he can maintain this high level of play when it matters most.

Either way we are in a great spot w these cheap QBs.

Originally posted by libertyforever:
This. Purdy made everything look easy. Trey made everything look hard. I understand Trey is raw. He has high traits for a QB prospect, but as dj43 said, upside is just smoke in the wind.

Purdy has done everything right at this point. I think it would send the locker room a wrong message if Kyle go with Trey next season just to give him the experience. Purdy is polished, but he will definitely benefit tremendously to have a whole offseason of 1st team reps. It is also in our interest to developed Purdy and see how big of a step forward he can take in his game.

I agree - the players aren't dumb and have opinions just like we all do. I really felt like the players weren't convinced Lance is ready from the way they spoke about things during the off season. They did say a lot of good things about him too but that's what they're supposed to say. Just my opinion though, no idea if they feel that way, but I'm willing to bet that not every opinion of those men are "give Trey a chance so we can see if he can play as well or better than what we have, when what we have is way more than enough right now".

i know that would bother me because I'm there to win a chip and the roster is ready now, i don't want to risk it with the unknown when we have a known product on hand.

We aren't getting rid of Lance and we shouldn't. Let the best man play next year but Lance better be in OVERDRIVE this off season trying to catch up. Because you know Purdy will be doing everything he can to improve in his play.

Originally posted by YACBros85:
Batted passes? Brock has 4 in 115 attempts and Trey has 5 in 102 attempts.

Its taken Trey some time to come around. Patience.

Originally posted by Ezekiel38:
No. Jimmy made everything look hard. Trey has barely played - he was our best player in the monsoon game and converted 13 3rd downs and 9 with his legs.

He played well in the HOU game and was our best offensive player in his first game vs AZ. People need to go back and watch those games over every play.

Decisions are not going to be made about next year right now. Let's see Brock in the playoffs - hope he can maintain this high level of play when it matters most.

Either way we are in a great spot w these cheap QBs.

Hmm I wouldn't say jimmy made anything "hard". He just has a cap on what he can accomplish consistently in the pass game. But he does a lot of things really well that he'll make up for it to keep the offense moving.

Offense definitely looked clunky a majority of the time when Lance was starting, not a huge deal. He showed a lot of improvement in his first start to second. He is just super raw still and needs to keep working on his craft, which he will.

the offense looks the smoothest under Purdy this season because of how he's utilized the deep ball and avoids pressure really well, definitely better than JG or Lance has in their time here so far.

Originally posted by ItsX4Number6:
Pretty much where I'm coming from. It's far too early to crown Purdy as unbeatable just as it's far too early and very premature to say Trey "slow and uninspiring" based off of 2 games as a backup and one game in terrible weather is just ridiculous. Hell Fields had a worse game than Trey and now suddenly he's viewed by some as the 2nd best QB of that class. Many, MOST, QBs are far from perfect their first few starts. Brock is literally an outlier but that doesn't mean Trey doesn't have massive potential because he played meh I'm the season opener.

Brock hit the jackpot. He took over a team in it's prime. A team that was already in rhythm and has 4 could be pro bowlers. Trey took over a team with a broken oline, no CMC, and literally no time to gel. It's pretty obvious to most that one situation is better than the next

Both Brock and Trey hit the jackpot. They got Kyle, they got weapons, they got the excellent defense. Trey had the advantage for having 1st team reps during the whole offseason. That is something Brock didn't have. I can't believe people are acting like Brock got lucky and Trey was put in a bad situation. The only difference is, Brock took advantage of the good situation, but Trey did not.

Originally posted by libertyforever:

Originally posted by ItsX4Number6:
Pretty much where I'm coming from. It's far too early to crown Purdy as unbeatable just as it's far too early and very premature to say Trey "slow and uninspiring" based off of 2 games as a backup and one game in terrible weather is just ridiculous. Hell Fields had a worse game than Trey and now suddenly he's viewed by some as the 2nd best QB of that class. Many, MOST, QBs are far from perfect their first few starts. Brock is literally an outlier but that doesn't mean Trey doesn't have massive potential because he played meh I'm the season opener.

Brock hit the jackpot. He took over a team in it's prime. A team that was already in rhythm and has 4 could be pro bowlers. Trey took over a team with a broken oline, no CMC, and literally no time to gel. It's pretty obvious to most that one situation is better than the next

Both Brock and Trey hit the jackpot. They got Kyle, they got weapons, they got the excellent defense. Trey had the advantage for having 1st team reps during the whole offseason. That is something Brock didn't have. I can't believe people are acting like Brock got lucky and Trey was put in a bad situation. The only difference is, Brock took advantage of the good situation, but Trey did not.

I don't think Trey hit the jackpot as much as everyone thinks. How good this team is and how ready it is to compete - I think he actually worked to his detriment.

if this team was bad or average, he would of been starting since day one, because we aren't playing for anything besides hoping he works out.

since that isn't the case, we went with Jimmy year 1. Now, he's injured and missed another whole year and his back up is balling. So I think it hurt him more than any of us realized at the time.

Originally posted by Kolohe:
DO YOU SMELL WHAT THE BROCK IS COOKING!!!!

The Brock says, know your role, and pass it to Kittle.

Originally posted by 9erson3:

Originally posted by YACBros85:
Batted passes? Brock has 4 in 115 attempts and Trey has 5 in 102 attempts.

Its taken Trey some time to come around. Patience.

Its not a knock on Trey. Its your failed attempt to knock Purdy for something Trey has struggled with as well. Now you are trying to save face by using Trey's finger injury as an excuse.

Originally posted by 9erson3:

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by dj43:

Originally posted by ItsX4Number6:
3 games lol. Ditto. How ridiculous. I take it you can't so you got angry. I thought it was a simple question on how you can say these things off of one single game this year. I thought he did fine myself. Like most rookies he had his moments and also has areas to improve. I can't think of a single area where we have enough evidence of uninspired play. I can't think of where he was "very slow" on anything as one gabe as the starter in a monsoon seems insanely stupid to judge.

Pardon the interruption but the "monsoon" excuse is not valid. Go back and look at the game. The "monsoon" started with 8 minutes left in the game. Prior to that, the rain was light to moderate but not unlike many other games in which the rain had little effect on the play.

Lance looked like the inexperienced player that he is. He missed reads. Missed simple throws - his first throw in the game was the same kind of throw this board has skewered Garoppolo for - an overthrow of a wide-open receiver who was on his way to a house call with a more accurate throw.

Don't get me wrong, I want the 49ers to keep him through his rookie contract (I don't think we have a choice) and give him as many opportunities as they can while still keeping winning as the #1 priority. As for now, we have a QB demonstrating all the intangible qualities that are vital to winning. All this talk about Lance's upside is just smoke in the wind. The team loves Purdy and any attempt to install Lance just to "give him experience" will not go down well, IMO.

Idc where someone was drafted - I think Purdy has a high ceiling as well. What the hell dows that mean? That he make throws look at magical as Mahommes?

if he can get the same results as Mahommes in his own style - then that's the same ceiling, in my opinion. I don't see any reason why Brock can't be a top QB in this league if he continues to grow at the pace he has. It's absolutely incredible and if he wasn't a 7th round pick - no one would be saying we should still give Lance a chance.

I think the problem is we all want the best. But on the same tow downplaying Lance over three games the same could be said about Brock's upswing. It's too early either way. I'll give one positive for Trey. His size. Brock was having throws batted down already. Again, not a problem buts let's be even keeled here. Trey has tangibles you look for. He's a beefy stud. Patience. Let's just keep winning and let it play out later.

And let's hope Brock keeps it going.

Yes, we all want the best, and right now, we are looking at the best offense in the league led by a quality QB. All this talk about a 7th round pick is nonsense. If he had been chosen in the 2nd-3rd round or higher, no one would be saying a word. He is playing at a very high level and checking all the boxes in every game.

As to batted-down throws; we saw those in every game all weekend. Aaron Rodgers had passes batted down. Josh Allen is 6'5," and Justin Herbert is 6'6", and both have passes batted down every game. As to the Washington game, let's not overlook the fact that DL is the best in the league - full of 1st round picks - knocking down passes is what they do. However, in the end, Purdy won the war.

Originally posted by 49ers81:
37-20. No I don't think I need to nitpick that game at all. They won by three scores. Washington has a pretty decent defense and still had something to play for. I didn't expect them to roll over and make it easy. One of the many things I have learned from watching jonnydel's videos is that things aren't always what they seem. The difference between a TD and a field goal can often come down to one missed block or one missed read. I suspect if that is the case that the team will go over it in the film room and continue to determine how they can do it better next time. I'm not going to bellyache about how the score "could have been" 50-20. It doesn't count for anymore in the win column.

so going 1 of 5 in the RZ isn't an issue? Gotcha, I'll remember that. A couple explosive plays is what won SF the game including a Ray Ray handoff for 70 yards.

absolutely a blown block or a bad route can be the difference between a FG, TD or an INT. Now make sure to apply that to every QB here.