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  • Goatie
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Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:
Originally posted by Goatie:
LOL I was supporting your point. We don't have enough draft capital to get anyone good unless we get really lucky like we did with Purdy, which really was a draft fluke rather than clever management.


Purdy was a really lucky selection in the sense that he's stepped right in and has played the position better than a multi-year vet and average starter in Garoppolo.

That wouldn't be the goal though in using another pick on a QB in next year's draft in this scenario. The goal would be to find an experienced player capable of stepping in as a backup and managing the offense in the immediate short term, something Trey hasn't shown he's capable of doing. The limited sample we've seen shows the opposite, not factoring the need to cater the offense to his 'strengths'.

Well doesn't JG fit that roll? If FO and JG could come to a similar deal as this season would you be happy with that? It is possible but JG might want to go elsewhere to be a starter
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Originally posted by Goatie:
Well doesn't JG fit that roll? If FO and JG could come to a similar deal as this season would you be happy with that? It is possible but JG might want to go elsewhere to be a starter

Yeah JG would fit that role if he doesn't get any starting offers from other teams AND he doesn't want to leave. That seem unrealistic at this time. He's going to get some offers.
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Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by mayo49:
I hear you, NY, but I'm trying my darnedest to change your mind, but your a tough cookie to break.

I don't need my mind to be changed. I'm completely content letting it all play out.

I know - your very strong-minded. Keeping Trey for the next 3 years wouldn't be the worst thing. Just feel - get something for him while his stock is still high.
[ Edited by mayo49 on Dec 25, 2022 at 1:19 PM ]
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Gotta love football and fans lol…it's such a week to week emotional rollercoaster. Couple weeks ago it was man we need to pay Jimmy $25M per. Tua was looked at as an MVP until he came to SF. Now he's playing like s**t.

People in here sucking the Rams nuts and how well they made that roster, complaining about not trading for Stafford…now they're a joke. We're on QB3 and guys like Rogers and Brady are a shell of themselves. Lawrence was a bust and not he's not. Hurts was regarded as a "running QB" now he's a MVP candidate.

how about ya'll take a breath enjoy the games and understand there's a whole hell of a lot that can happen by the 2023 season

THIS X INFINITY.

If I see one more "it's time to trade Trey asap" post ..

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Originally posted by OnTheClock:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Gotta love football and fans lol…it's such a week to week emotional rollercoaster. Couple weeks ago it was man we need to pay Jimmy $25M per. Tua was looked at as an MVP until he came to SF. Now he's playing like s**t.

People in here sucking the Rams nuts and how well they made that roster, complaining about not trading for Stafford…now they're a joke. We're on QB3 and guys like Rogers and Brady are a shell of themselves. Lawrence was a bust and not he's not. Hurts was regarded as a "running QB" now he's a MVP candidate.

how about ya'll take a breath enjoy the games and understand there's a whole hell of a lot that can happen by the 2023 season

THIS X INFINITY.

If I see one more "it's time to trade Trey asap" post ..


Oh, hush, Clock.
[ Edited by mayo49 on Dec 25, 2022 at 1:27 PM ]
Originally posted by mayo49:
Originally posted by Cisco0623:
Digesting the last few weeks has me thinking this:

1. Purdy is a find. He's proving to be a viable starter in this league.

2. let's not get crazy- this roster only needs a competent QB. Anything more is gravy. I'm not knocking Purdy - in fact I think it shows....

3. .....Jimmy G was limited and afraid to go deep. He has improved but he's 31 and injury prone.... Purdy has utilized the skill makers on this offense way better than jimmy has. So yea...

4.... Jimmy is gone.

5. Lance's ceiling is technically far higher than Purdy's so I think they give him a real shot to get the experience he needs. The only way to know is to have him play and see if he has it. Unless Purdy xarry's us to a Lombardi I see it being an open completion with Lance getting the nod.

l feel like Kyle shouldn't have Trey run or design the offense anything different than it is now. He should have him learn the offense we use now. I believe if and how Trey improves, especially as a pocket passer, the offense will naturally evolve with it regardless. Exciting times.

I disagree, Trey will be Brocks backup next year, unless he does a nose dive the rest of the season and it's an early exit in the playoffs. Brock is ready to go now, Trey needs more time to develop into what Brock already is.
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Originally posted by libertyforever:
If it is an open competition, Trey needs to be somewhat close to Purdy to win the job. Right now Purdy is miles and miles ahead of Trey.

I think Purdy has demonstrated he has an adequate arm for a starting QB in the NFL. He has excellent accuracy on his throws. He is mobile. He has high football IQ. He knows how to read defense and find the open receiver. Yes he is short, and that can not be changed. But overall, his ceiling is reasonably high.

At the end of the day, pretty much no one completely reached their ceiling in terms of potential, it is a matter of how close they can get to their ceiling. Many will end their career without ever getting close to their ceiling. Otherwise why would Tom Brady and Joe Montana be considered GOAT? There are easily several dozen QBs played in the NFL in the last several decades with higher ceilings than them (Stronger arms and better mobilities), all these guys need to do is mentally be as good as Tom Brady and Joe Montana and they would have been better than better than GOAT. But the problem is 99% of the QB prospects will never be able to develop their mental skills to the level of Brady and Montana.

Because Purdy has reasonably high ceiling, it doesn't make sense to just give the job to Trey because of his "higher" ceiling.

Point understood and agreed about potential. But my thinking is how will Trey improve if not given the opportunity to? There's nothing we can do with the fact he has little experience compared to Purdy.

If Purdy is they starter how will try ever catch up or surpass him? Like I can't knock Trey because he's raw. Jimmy was who he was and I was done with him. With Trey we have no idea yet because of his limited playing. Purdy is an amazing surprise and certainly better than Trey right now, but I still can't discount that we don't allow Trey to have a real chance.
Originally posted by Goatie:
Your argument about Trey is all about "what ifs" and ultra conservatism about "what if" Purdy regresses, Any thing is possible in an infinite universe but what is most likely is based on what we see. And what we see and what is reality is that Purdy is head and shoulders ahead of Lance in an NFL QB that can run the system. Purdy is not ahead of Jimmy G in regards to efficiency but is trending over time to exceed JG's efficiency. Given JG is second in the league behind Mahomes in efficiency Purdy is going well. What I judge Purdy on is his tangible results and the intangible aspects he brings such as leadership, that he is a big dog in the fight, his ability to play while injured (JG was good in this regard as well). All Trey is, is potential due to his body type with some spurts of good football in college and NFL. That potential is far from realized yet and I do not have a crystal ball. But as you well know potential can turn to bust as well as turn to be top shelf, or indeed anywhere in between. That is why I have little regard to unrealized potential as opposed to what is being delivered right now.

I'll take big plays over "efficiency" any day.
Originally posted by 9ers4eva:
I'll take big plays over "efficiency" any day.

Good news: You're getting both with Purdy so far. That hasn't been the case with either of our two other guys.
[ Edited by SmokeyJoe on Dec 25, 2022 at 1:30 PM ]
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Originally posted by 9ers4eva:
Originally posted by Goatie:
Your argument about Trey is all about "what ifs" and ultra conservatism about "what if" Purdy regresses, Any thing is possible in an infinite universe but what is most likely is based on what we see. And what we see and what is reality is that Purdy is head and shoulders ahead of Lance in an NFL QB that can run the system. Purdy is not ahead of Jimmy G in regards to efficiency but is trending over time to exceed JG's efficiency. Given JG is second in the league behind Mahomes in efficiency Purdy is going well. What I judge Purdy on is his tangible results and the intangible aspects he brings such as leadership, that he is a big dog in the fight, his ability to play while injured (JG was good in this regard as well). All Trey is, is potential due to his body type with some spurts of good football in college and NFL. That potential is far from realized yet and I do not have a crystal ball. But as you well know potential can turn to bust as well as turn to be top shelf, or indeed anywhere in between. That is why I have little regard to unrealized potential as opposed to what is being delivered right now.

I'll take big plays over "efficiency" any day.

Big plays are great to watch but they are low percentage plays meaning they do not work out as often. That is why every throw is not a 60 yard pass. Analysis of what works to gain more yards overall in a game is a lot of short passes and yards after carry. The long shot is an occasional thing to keep a defense on their toes and keep them stretched. Kyle almost always plays that stat game with the occasional radicalness. Overall he is very conventional to what the stats says is going to get the most yards per game.
Anyone got a replay of him dodging that naked Blitzer and then doing the spin near the sideline to throw it away?
Originally posted by kujon11:
Anyone got a replay of him dodging that naked Blitzer and then doing the spin near the sideline to throw it away?

That was honesty his best play. Not taking a big negative play.
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Originally posted by NinerBuff:
Originally posted by kujon11:
Anyone got a replay of him dodging that naked Blitzer and then doing the spin near the sideline to throw it away?

That was honesty his best play. Not taking a big negative play.

His signature play.
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Originally posted by 9ers4eva:
I'll take big plays over "efficiency" any day.

The irony is Jimmy was 1st in big play rate% last year.
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Originally posted by NinerBuff:
Originally posted by kujon11:
Anyone got a replay of him dodging that naked Blitzer and then doing the spin near the sideline to throw it away?

That was honesty his best play. Not taking a big negative play.

Twinkle Toes Purdy
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Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by krizay:
It is NOT 20m to move him. It would be 20 million to CUT him. 11 million to TRADE him.

I'm seeing almost $17M


change it to "post-June 1 trade". i'm not necessarily in the camp looking to trade him. but if the offer is a good one

[ Edited by boast on Dec 25, 2022 at 1:42 PM ]
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