QB Brock Purdy Thread

Originally posted by Montana:
7th Heaven

Brock 'SB Window' Purdy

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
On team building, when we dive in

DET - didn't draft Goff
TB - didn't draft Baker
SF - round 7 Brock
GB - late round 1 if I recall on Love

then you have

BUF - top 10 pick
KC - top 10 pick
BAL - end of round 1
HOU - pick 2

Interesting coincidence that only remaining AFC playoff teams drafted their QBs in the first round. Let's see how this plays out.

Originally posted by father49er:
Interesting coincidence that only remaining AFC playoff teams drafted their QBs in the first round. Let's see how this plays out.

All of those QB's except for Brock are 1st rounders. 5 of them top 10 or higher. That's just generally where the good QBs come from.

Even Goff and Baker were solid ish with their original teams before they were jettisoned for upgrades (who were also 1st rounders).

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:

Originally posted by father49er:
Interesting coincidence that only remaining AFC playoff teams drafted their QBs in the first round. Let's see how this plays out.

All of those QB's except for Brock are 1st rounders. 5 of them top 10 or higher. That's just generally where the good QBs come from.

Even Goff and Baker were solid ish with their original teams before they were jettisoned for upgrades (who were also 1st rounders).

Ah, all true. We already lucked out with having Brock getting us this far. Let's hope he gets us #6.

Originally posted by NinerBuff:

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
It's now time for Brock to continue his good play and led this team to the SB. If they make it and the Niners win, I wonder what the Purdy doubters will say.

System Lombardi winner?

In the average fans mind, Purdy has now been passed by Stroud and Love.

That bothers me.

I hope we smoke Love terribly, and that Stroud plays so so and Demeco's defense is how the Texans win any games moving forward.

I hate this s**t.

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:

Originally posted by father49er:
Interesting coincidence that only remaining AFC playoff teams drafted their QBs in the first round. Let's see how this plays out.

All of those QB's except for Brock are 1st rounders. 5 of them top 10 or higher. That's just generally where the good QBs come from.

Even Goff and Baker were solid ish with their original teams before they were jettisoned for upgrades (who were also 1st rounders).

On team building, 3/8 are those top of the draft QBs, that teams love to build around, and still on their club that took them.
The rest are more easily acquired. The draft cost for example between pick 2 and pick 32 is pretty extreme. We saw that on Trey, moving up 9 spots took multiple years of ones. Tampa seemingly did well for themselves, in adding a street FA. 1 overall player for next to no cost, and he produced a fine season.

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
On team building, 3/8 are those top of the draft QBs, that teams love to build around, and still on their club that took them.
The rest are more easily acquired. The draft cost for example between pick 2 and pick 32 is pretty extreme. We saw that on Trey, moving up 9 spots took multiple years of ones. Tampa seemingly did well for themselves, in adding a street FA. 1 overall player for next to no cost, and he produced a fine season.

Moving up for the 3rd overall pick was dumb. Compounded by the fact that they took what was probably the most inexperienced prospect in NFL history… as least as far back as I can remember.

Drafting one at the top of the draft or near it, without a trade, is the most effective way to find a franchise QB. Again, it's not often that a great QB is available via trade or free agency… and as we will see shortly, Goff and Baker don't really move the needle. Decent players, but not difference makers. The Bucs aren't even in the playoffs without help from their terrible division. And now Baker is up for a bargain starter extension and Tampa likely remains a non serious threat to win the SB for at least the length of that contract.

For me, if Brock learns to bring his team back from behind as regularly as needed that would help the eliteness argument, but it's not essential.

The more important factor, of course, is winning the SB. Steve Young was elite IMO, but he wasn't a come-from-behind QB. He made the point that he didn't have to because they were usually ahead.

Originally posted by qnnhan7:

Originally posted by tankle104:
https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/39300943/brock-purdy-49ers-internal-motivation-prove-nonbelievers-wrong

Front page article on ESPN:

Long before Brock Purdy, San Francisco 49ers starting quarterback, Pro Bowler and MVP candidate was a thing, Purdy was a Thing.

Specifically, Purdy was Thing 1, his costume of choice along with offensive linemen Nick Zakelj and Alfredo Gutierrez, his teammates, then-roommates and fellow characters from Dr. Seuss' "The Cat in the Hat," at the Niners' 2022 Halloween party.

The 49ers had lost to the Kansas City Chiefs eight days earlier but were optimistic because of the recent trade for running back Christian McCaffrey.

That Halloween night offered a brief football getaway at Khartoum Lounge in nearby Campbell, California. Purdy was the backup to starter Jimmy Garoppolo but flashed potential during practice. He was finally feeling comfortable cutting loose with his teammates.

At one point in the evening, Purdy was chatting with McCaffrey, tight end George Kittle and fullback Kyle Juszczyk when he went full Oprah Winfrey handing out cars to her audience.

"He said, 'Hey, just give me a chance, I can make a lot of plays,'" Kittle said, laughing. "'I'm going to feed you the ball, I'm going to feed you the ball, I'm going to feed you the ball.' ... It was pretty phenomenal."

While Kittle & Co. loved Purdy's bravado, they also found it amusing in a "whatever you say, rookie" kind of way. Thirty-four days later, Purdy stepped in for an injured Garoppolo against the Miami Dolphins and quickly proved that his Halloween night proclamations were no laughing matter.

After Purdy threw a pair of first-half touchdowns in what would become a 33-17 Niners win, Kittle walked into the locker room, kicked Purdy's chair and told him he was crazy. When Purdy asked Kittle what he meant, the tight end reminded the quarterback he'd spoken it into existence.

"I'm going to tell my kids that story," Juszczyk said. "Especially if we go win a Super Bowl with him, I'm telling that story forever.".

Awesome read. too much to post on here but great article.

Good stuff. This tells me it's all Brock. You can account for coaching somewhat at times, but the moment he got into the building, learned the offense -- I got this. It wasn't some stupid bravado, he knows he can play qb in the NFL and play at a high level.

It ain't Brock lucky to be in the NFL, we are lucky to have Brock lol

+1

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
On team building, 3/8 are those top of the draft QBs, that teams love to build around, and still on their club that took them.
The rest are more easily acquired. The draft cost for example between pick 2 and pick 32 is pretty extreme. We saw that on Trey, moving up 9 spots took multiple years of ones. Tampa seemingly did well for themselves, in adding a street FA. 1 overall player for next to no cost, and he produced a fine season.

Moving up for the 3rd overall pick was dumb. Compounded by the fact that they took what was probably the most inexperienced prospect in NFL history… as least as far back as I can remember.

Drafting one at the top of the draft or near it, without a trade, is the most effective way to find a franchise QB. Again, it's not often that a great QB is available via trade or free agency… and as we will see shortly, Goff and Baker don't really move the needle. Decent players, but not difference makers. The Bucs aren't even in the playoffs without help from their terrible division. And now Baker is up for a bargain starter extension and Tampa likely remains a non serious threat to win the SB for at least the length of that contract.

Goff and Baker don't really move the needle, true. They are also both 1 overall. That's the big question for anyone building a team, like Peters now in DC. He has to solve the problem of how to build a team and get a QB. Thankfully we don't have this problem anymore. I do think building out our team, and having a successful team, probably made Brock's ascent a lot more doable.

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Goff and Baker don't really move the needle, true. They are also both 1 overall. That's the big question for anyone building a team, like Peters now in DC. He has to solve the problem of how to build a team and get a QB. Thankfully we don't have this problem anymore. I do think building out our team, and having a successful team, probably made Brock's ascent a lot more doable.

Right because even getting a decent starter in the NFL more often than not requires a first round pick investment.

Brock is a damn winning* lottery ticket. We did not create his ability by having a good team. The good team inflates his production… which is true for every QB who ever played

Originally posted by JTsBiggestFan:

Originally posted by NinerBuff:

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
It's now time for Brock to continue his good play and led this team to the SB. If they make it and the Niners win, I wonder what the Purdy doubters will say.

System Lombardi winner?

In the average fans mind, Purdy has now been passed by Stroud and Love.

That bothers me.

I hope we smoke Love terribly, and that Stroud plays so so and Demeco's defense is how the Texans win any games moving forward.

I hate this s**t.

If Purdy outplays Love, the narrative will change again.

Originally posted by NinerBuff:

Originally posted by JTsBiggestFan:

Originally posted by NinerBuff:

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
It's now time for Brock to continue his good play and led this team to the SB. If they make it and the Niners win, I wonder what the Purdy doubters will say.

System Lombardi winner?

In the average fans mind, Purdy has now been passed by Stroud and Love.

That bothers me.

I hope we smoke Love terribly, and that Stroud plays so so and Demeco's defense is how the Texans win any games moving forward.

I hate this s**t.

If Purdy outplays Love, the narrative will change again.

Goff or Baker will be the talk of the NFL then.

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Goff and Baker don't really move the needle, true. They are also both 1 overall. That's the big question for anyone building a team, like Peters now in DC. He has to solve the problem of how to build a team and get a QB. Thankfully we don't have this problem anymore. I do think building out our team, and having a successful team, probably made Brock's ascent a lot more doable.

Right because even getting a decent starter in the NFL more often than not requires a first round pick investment.

Brock is a damn lottery ticket. We did not create his ability by having a good team. The good team inflates his production… which is true for every QB who ever player.

First round pick is not in dispute. Not all firsts are equal value. One would need many pick 32s to get a single pick 1. So Love and Lamar, were wayyyy cheaper and more available than say Stroud, Baker and Goff, at least, in draft investment terms. It's a special window with Brock. I would view less as your comment of creating ability, I would view more as we gave a wonderful squad/coach for Brock to thrive. It's almost a prerequisite to have some talent / coaching in place. Few if any QBs can overcome a bad situation.

damn this got me hyped