QB Brock Purdy Thread

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:

Originally posted by tankle104:

COLLEGE QB NEWS: Chubba Purdy (younger brother of #49ers QB Brock Purdy) is transferring and committed to San Jose State University. pic.twitter.com/MeVoXFavsV

— 49ers & NFL News 24/7 (@49ersSportsTalk) January 15, 2024

He doesn't look like another Brock judging from his stats at Nebraska.

I don't understand San Jose State at all. Stay at Nebraska. That's probably a better program. This move makes no sense. Except to be in the Bay Area with his brother. But it's the wrong football move. He's not his brother. I agree. Brock is a better thrower.

He wasn't getting much playing time at Nebraska. That may be why along with the chance to be near his brother.

Chubs would have access to the 49ers facility and coaches

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Chubs would have access to the 49ers facility and coaches

And to the star treatment Brock is in line for.

Johnny Drama Purdy mode engaged.

Originally posted by Giedi:

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by Giedi:

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by Giedi:

Originally posted by YACBros85:
So you think elite QB's only need to be great in the regular season? Not sure what you are laughing about?

Not much to go on with just a one word reply. But what I will say is that *team* play seems to be underrated on this thread. I don't get that when football is the *ultimate* team sport. Why do some players do well on one team vs another? It's coaching, it's system, it's how the players individually come together and play.

Look at the Cowboys, they regularly underperform. They lose to a 7th seed in the playoffs. Why? Because *overall* as a *team* they *suck.* Even though individually they may be talented. It's how a team and its components are put together - that makes a good team. Ignoring the team aspect of football is, I think, being ignorant in a sense of a critical aspect of football itself as a team sport.

Of course its a team sport. But why have multiple threads? If we cannot separate a player's performance from that of the team's, might as well just have one big thread.

I was talking about not necessarily winning it all but performance. Not being a glaring reason for a loss. Especially in the playoffs when everyone is watching. Those playoff games often come down to mistakes or a drive. Do you throw the game winning TD or a game losing INT. Elite status is as much perception as it is anything else. Everyone remembers the QB in that big game that made that big play. No one remembers the O linemen's names from that SB winning team.

To me, you really can't separate the player and the teams performance in reality. When a Wr catches a ball, the OLIne, the Coach, and the QB did their jobs. Now of course, most stats are indiviually based. There is not many team stats other than the aggregation stats like wins/losses total yardage etc... I think that's why it's hard to draft QB's - because how do you separate the WR from the QB, when it takes *both* to have a successful pass play (for example).

Playoff wins do come down to mistakes. Usually it's just one play in the playoffs. I the Cowboy's losses - two plays. Two pick Sixes by Roast Dak and the game is essentially out of hand at that point. In a team sport like football, and in the case of the Cowboys, you can't eliminate the Cowboy's coach and general manager as a component of the team either.

The elite QB's make big plays in big moments. Its almost never perfect for a QB late in the game. The coverage was good or a pass rush gets pressure. The QB at some point needs to escape pressure, buy time and make something happen because the game is on the line. That's what separates the elite QB's from the rest.

Agree 💯%, For sure, the biggest moments are in the playoffs and in the Superbowl. So how do they get to the playoffs and the Superbowl? By winning regular season games. But we've also seen guys like Nick Foles win in the playoffs despite being - so called average talented QBs. The eyepopping QB plays do influence the viewers to say that this QB is elite, but if you look at Joe Montana, his *biggest* plays were different in that they were game winning short passes that didn't need to go 50+ yards like those Elway Comebacks. Don't get me wrong, Joe could throw it deep, but Rice had a role to play on those deep passes too.

I think there is physical eliteness - but there are the Joe Montana's, Bob Greise's, and Ken Stabler type of mental eliteness too. Neither of these three QB's were rocket armed guys that can outrun Olympic sprinters.

Big plays aren't necessarily 50+ yard passes. It could be a critical 3rd down, the routes are well covered, how do you overcome this and keep the drive alive? Brock is highly capable of keeping the play alive and making plays out of structure. In fact, he excels at it. Brock has an elite set of skills that allows him to find success even when the players around him aren't performing at their best. That is one of the biggest reasons why I believe in him. He elevates this offense in ways we have not seen before.

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:
think I got the answer I was looking for.

in the OL thread you see this long running argument about what the team's shortcomings have been… and those arguments are always going to be subject to the poster's evaluation of different parts of the team.

For example, if you believe Brock is at the top of the league in terms of QBs because of production, there's a good chance you believed Jimmy was a very good QB based on a lot of the same factors. Probably would be less inclined to think you had a problem there and focus elsewhere when the team falls short.

I thought Jimmy was above average for us but I knew he had flaws that weren't going to be fixed. I thought he was elite at a handful of things but the things he wasn't good at, he was pretty bad at. I always knew he held us back in some capacity. I think Brock still has some more to prove to show he is elite, although I think he's capable of being elite and is playing excellent. I just want to see him play great in the playoffs. Idc if he's "elite" or not at this time, personally. I think he's playing excellent and on track to be considered elite if he keeps it up.

being "elite" in my mind requires a sustained period of time, like mahommes/Allen etc. that's why I never considered hurts elite. He was really good for one season and been less than elite this year.

it's subjective though and I know some feel different. I love having Brock and couldn't be more excited for the future with him. It'll be an awesome 15 year run with many chips, IMO.

He was average the entire time. We're now in "______ > average" mode.

Obsessed lol

I love him. Let's make some more post season magic, Purdy!

Let's go Brock!!!

Lol I love how Brock's moms name on Twitter is "big bird Purdy" hahaha big bird

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by Giedi:

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by Giedi:

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by Giedi:

Originally posted by YACBros85:
So you think elite QB's only need to be great in the regular season? Not sure what you are laughing about?

Not much to go on with just a one word reply. But what I will say is that *team* play seems to be underrated on this thread. I don't get that when football is the *ultimate* team sport. Why do some players do well on one team vs another? It's coaching, it's system, it's how the players individually come together and play.

Look at the Cowboys, they regularly underperform. They lose to a 7th seed in the playoffs. Why? Because *overall* as a *team* they *suck.* Even though individually they may be talented. It's how a team and its components are put together - that makes a good team. Ignoring the team aspect of football is, I think, being ignorant in a sense of a critical aspect of football itself as a team sport.

Of course its a team sport. But why have multiple threads? If we cannot separate a player's performance from that of the team's, might as well just have one big thread.

I was talking about not necessarily winning it all but performance. Not being a glaring reason for a loss. Especially in the playoffs when everyone is watching. Those playoff games often come down to mistakes or a drive. Do you throw the game winning TD or a game losing INT. Elite status is as much perception as it is anything else. Everyone remembers the QB in that big game that made that big play. No one remembers the O linemen's names from that SB winning team.

To me, you really can't separate the player and the teams performance in reality. When a Wr catches a ball, the OLIne, the Coach, and the QB did their jobs. Now of course, most stats are indiviually based. There is not many team stats other than the aggregation stats like wins/losses total yardage etc... I think that's why it's hard to draft QB's - because how do you separate the WR from the QB, when it takes *both* to have a successful pass play (for example).

Playoff wins do come down to mistakes. Usually it's just one play in the playoffs. I the Cowboy's losses - two plays. Two pick Sixes by Roast Dak and the game is essentially out of hand at that point. In a team sport like football, and in the case of the Cowboys, you can't eliminate the Cowboy's coach and general manager as a component of the team either.

The elite QB's make big plays in big moments. Its almost never perfect for a QB late in the game. The coverage was good or a pass rush gets pressure. The QB at some point needs to escape pressure, buy time and make something happen because the game is on the line. That's what separates the elite QB's from the rest.

Agree 💯%, For sure, the biggest moments are in the playoffs and in the Superbowl. So how do they get to the playoffs and the Superbowl? By winning regular season games. But we've also seen guys like Nick Foles win in the playoffs despite being - so called average talented QBs. The eyepopping QB plays do influence the viewers to say that this QB is elite, but if you look at Joe Montana, his *biggest* plays were different in that they were game winning short passes that didn't need to go 50+ yards like those Elway Comebacks. Don't get me wrong, Joe could throw it deep, but Rice had a role to play on those deep passes too.

I think there is physical eliteness - but there are the Joe Montana's, Bob Greise's, and Ken Stabler type of mental eliteness too. Neither of these three QB's were rocket armed guys that can outrun Olympic sprinters.

Big plays aren't necessarily 50+ yard passes. It could be a critical 3rd down, the routes are well covered, how do you overcome this and keep the drive alive? Brock is highly capable of keeping the play alive and making plays out of structure. In fact, he excels at it. Brock has an elite set of skills that allows him to find success even when the players around him aren't performing at their best. That is one of the biggest reasons why I believe in him. He elevates this offense in ways we have not seen before.

Agree 💯%, and add to that the fact that Brock's mind can keep up with Kyle Shanahan's mind. Look at all the variations Kyle can call with regards to plays and formation variations. Brock needs to know the various strengths and weaknesses of each formation and position. Add in the positionless offense that Kyle has - with Deebo playing RB and WR and CMC playing RB and WR, add in Kittle and Juszczyk playing TE, Full Back, Wr, and Rb. Now on top of that - with the multiple formations, positions, now add in the motion offense.

CJ Stroud just destroyed the elite Browns defense with Kyle's offense. I think Purdy's mental eliteness outweighs (as you said) a lot of the physical eliteness that other QB's have.

Originally posted by tankle104:
I thought Jimmy was above average for us but I knew he had flaws that weren't going to be fixed. I thought he was elite at a handful of things but the things he wasn't good at, he was pretty bad at. I always knew he held us back in some capacity. I think Brock still has some more to prove to show he is elite, although I think he's capable of being elite and is playing excellent. I just want to see him play great in the playoffs. Idc if he's "elite" or not at this time, personally. I think he's playing excellent and on track to be considered elite if he keeps it up.

being "elite" in my mind requires a sustained period of time, like mahommes/Allen etc. that's why I never considered hurts elite. He was really good for one season and been less than elite this year.

it's subjective though and I know some feel different. I love having Brock and couldn't be more excited for the future with him. It'll be an awesome 15 year run with many chips, IMO.

Put Joe Montana in a different offensive system emphasizing longer throws, and you probably won't see Joe playing much. A coach like Kyle has the skillset to be able to minimize a QB's weaknesses and maximize the QB's strengths. The more strengths a QB has, the less work a Coach has to do. I don't think you can separate the coach from the QB, in a sense. One example would be John Elway constantly losing in the playoffs until Kyle's dad comes along and changes the offensive system and John wins two super bowls. John was an *elite* player (great Arm great mobility) who couldn't make the breakthrough until he had the proper coach.

I think it's the same with Purdy. Purdy would be a good player in any system, but in Kyle's offense - he's great. Specially with the personnel that Purdy's surrounded with and the style of play that the coach teaches. (For example - Brees was great with the Chargers *and* New Orleans). Under Marty Schottenheimer Brees was good - Under Sean Payton he won a Superbowl.

Please let Brock be the one to take us all the way. I'm so done with this waiting bs...

Originally posted by Giedi:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:
I get it. Obviously the conversation went on a tangent because the posters focused on what you said about Jimmy. I'm just replying in that context.

A post that had Jimmy in it, went on a tangent? That's a first!

I heard Jimmy was a previous 49er starting QB.

Exactly. Jimmy will forever be tied to this offense. How Brock performs in this offense will always be compared to those who have played in this system as well. Like it or not, that is the reality.

Originally posted by DRCHOWDER:
Please let Brock be the one to take us all the way. I'm so done with this waiting bs...

Seriously.

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by DRCHOWDER:
Please let Brock be the one to take us all the way. I'm so done with this waiting bs...

Seriously.

Watching the playoffs this weekend, it's pretty clear we must win it this year, as it will never be a clearer path to SB victory.