QB Brock Purdy Thread

Originally posted by tankle104:

The moment Deebo Samuel got drafted by the 49ers is what it's all about 🙏 pic.twitter.com/PYsduFma7w

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Jerry Rice 2.0

Originally posted by tankle104:

The moment Deebo Samuel got drafted by the 49ers is what it's all about 🙏 pic.twitter.com/PYsduFma7w

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Tank, don't put stuff up that is gunna make me misty eyed..jk bring it all day long

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by Hoovtrain:

Originally posted by tankle104:

"Best QB in #NFL" Patrick Mahomes has an impressive 4,183 yards & 27 Pass TDs on the year.

Brock Purdy has a remarkable 4,280 yards & 31 Pass TDs in his first yr as starter

WAIT.. Wait…That's not the impressive part

2023 Pass Attempts:
Mahomes 597 😳
Purdy 444 👀🤯

Just WOW! pic.twitter.com/iYfcSnXWHX

— 49ers & NFL News 24/7 (@49ersSportsTalk) January 1, 2024

You obviously can't compare their situations apples to apples, but it's still interesting. I didn't think I'd see Brock have better stats than mahommes. Lol pretty damn cool, IMO.

I tend to forget he's only 1 1/2 years in. Wild

I couldn't believe the reads and throws he was making last season as a rookie. It was veteran-like from the beginning how he stayed calm to read the field, especially zone and how he used his eyes to move defenders. By the third game, I was convinced it wasn't a fluke because it was consistent and not considered 'flashing'. He can still get better. As DCs show him more things, he'll learn.

Agree 💯%, and I'll just add, give him a great offensive line and those numbers will just go 👆⏫⬆️👆

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:

Originally posted by 49ers81:
And how did he expose Jimmy? Jimmy was what he was. A good, mid-level starter who had the ability to play both really well and really badly. He had an elite release, helped his receivers rack up yards after the catch, and was, by all accounts, a terrific teammate who helped the franchise get back on the winning track. He didn't have a particularly good deep ball and a penchant for throwing kind of head scratching picks, but in his five years with the team he helped them get to three NFC Championships and a Super Bowl. Seems like a pretty good return on investment to me.

Brock is clearly better in many regards. He sees the field better and is a far more athletic player than Jimmy was. He doesn't have Jimmy's quick release, which I think is something that got Jimmy in trouble from time to time, but he makes up for it by throwing with terrific anticipation. He is also more aggressive down the field and throws a more accurate deep ball. All that being said, I have no issue with Jimmy's time here. He never seemed to have a bad attitude, was always a professional, and always seemed to give his best effort. Sucks that he wasn't able to bring home the trophy but that's how it goes sometimes.

Given the way things played out, it seems pretty clear in retrospect that while Jimmy might not have been as good as Brock has turned out to be, he was always better than Lance, which seems to be what most of the back and forth was about. But, since neither of those guys are here anymore it's hardly worth discussing. Hopefully, this is the year the team finally gets #6 with Brock at the helm. Go Niners!

Good post.

Really think the QB conversations would be better, and more accurate, if each player was judged on their actual worth to the team and not so much in comparison to each other.

Agree, I don't know why a lot of 49er fans say Jimmy is just average or sucks. Jimmy was a good QB for us. Brought us out of the wilderness so to speak. Great guy who was a great model and example for Purdy. Jimmy was a great QB, just a step below the top in terms of QB talent. Brock is better than Jimmy, of course, otherwise Jimmy would still be here as QB1.

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:

Originally posted by 49ers81:
And how did he expose Jimmy? Jimmy was what he was. A good, mid-level starter who had the ability to play both really well and really badly. He had an elite release, helped his receivers rack up yards after the catch, and was, by all accounts, a terrific teammate who helped the franchise get back on the winning track. He didn't have a particularly good deep ball and a penchant for throwing kind of head scratching picks, but in his five years with the team he helped them get to three NFC Championships and a Super Bowl. Seems like a pretty good return on investment to me.

Brock is clearly better in many regards. He sees the field better and is a far more athletic player than Jimmy was. He doesn't have Jimmy's quick release, which I think is something that got Jimmy in trouble from time to time, but he makes up for it by throwing with terrific anticipation. He is also more aggressive down the field and throws a more accurate deep ball. All that being said, I have no issue with Jimmy's time here. He never seemed to have a bad attitude, was always a professional, and always seemed to give his best effort. Sucks that he wasn't able to bring home the trophy but that's how it goes sometimes.

Given the way things played out, it seems pretty clear in retrospect that while Jimmy might not have been as good as Brock has turned out to be, he was always better than Lance, which seems to be what most of the back and forth was about. But, since neither of those guys are here anymore it's hardly worth discussing. Hopefully, this is the year the team finally gets #6 with Brock at the helm. Go Niners!

Good post.

Really think the QB conversations would be better, and more accurate, if each player was judged on their actual worth to the team and not so much in comparison to each other.

I understood the frustration with jimmy, but never the hate. We got the best qb play that we've had in a long long time out of him, while winning a lot. Unfortunately, never what we hoped but he did a lot of good things here. I'll always appreciate Jimmy during that time because he was by far our best option and we always had a real chance to win.

Never cared for Lance the QB, but I did like Lance the man. Unfortunately, that being a great person doesn't mean you'll be a great player. My whole issue with playing Lance was that I thought he was way worse than Jimmy, he never gave us the best chance to win while Jimmy was here.

i had no issue moving on from Jimmy, just didn't think Lance was the right choice to do that with.

i never thought for a second to bring back jimmy once I saw Brock out there. I'm even more grateful that we landed Brock. Finally a QB that I love the character of the man and his play as a football player, equally.

Agree, the problem of evaluating Trey was the fact that his durability was as bad or worse than Jimmy's. Unfortunately. Those injuries add up on both Jimmy and Trey. Trey now has been delayed in his development. I still think he can be a good QB, but his atrocious durability is going to hold him back like it did Jimmy.

Originally posted by Giedi:
Agree, I don't know why a lot of 49er fans say Jimmy is just average or sucks. Jimmy was a good QB for us. Brought us out of the wilderness so to speak. Great guy who was a great model and example for Purdy. Jimmy was a great QB, just a step below the top in terms of QB talent. Brock is better than Jimmy, of course, otherwise Jimmy would still be here as QB1.

I disagree with you on how good Jimmy was (average for me) but I still think his time here was overall a positive. He helped the team win a lot of games and helped flip the culture as well.

I was trying to explain that I think conversations about the position would be better and more accurate if the QB's were strictly evaluated on their own. And to be perfectly honest I think it especially applies to Trey and was one of the reasons obvious moves snuck up on large chunks of the fanbase.

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by jed_X:

Originally posted by 49erF90:
After watching the Commander's game, I noticed Brock did a few more check downs compared to his games in the past. By so doing, he managed the game more efficiently I think. He probably could have thrown more TD's and gained more passing yards if he played more aggressively but it actually showed how he studies the game. He really learns from his mistakes and I can see his corrections from his execution. Another thing, even though he had 4 interceptions from the Ravens game, there's no sign at all of his confidence being diminished.

I noticed that too. I remember commentators were saying commanders were playing a lot of zone and keeping everything infront of them. It make sense why brock had a lot of check downs. That shows growth and maturity to recognized it and not force it. Just take what the defense us giving you.

Great stuff peeps!

Agree, great points. Rivera is a great Defensive mind, and both the Harbaugh's love those pattern matching zone coverages, and Purdy basically did what he needed to do to defeat those schemes. God almighty do we have one hell of a QB!

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:

Originally posted by Giedi:
Agree, I don't know why a lot of 49er fans say Jimmy is just average or sucks. Jimmy was a good QB for us. Brought us out of the wilderness so to speak. Great guy who was a great model and example for Purdy. Jimmy was a great QB, just a step below the top in terms of QB talent. Brock is better than Jimmy, of course, otherwise Jimmy would still be here as QB1.

I disagree with you on how good Jimmy was (average for me) but I still think his time here was overall a positive. He helped the team win a lot of games and helped flip the culture as well.

I was trying to explain that I think conversations about the position would be better and more accurate if the QB's were strictly evaluated on their own. And to be perfectly honest I think it especially applies to Trey and was one of the reasons obvious moves snuck up on large chunks of the fanbase.

No problem, Average to me is basically a guy like Jeff Garcia. Good QB, but couldn't even get to the big dance. Jimmy is definitely a guy that got the 49ers to the big dance, and to me that's not *average* because how many QB's have actually QB'd a team in a super bowl, not many.

It's all good. I'm on the Jimmy thread in the NFL section and trying my best to get it to 10K

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by TheWooLick:

Originally posted by DonnieDarko:
this is really sad man, literally no one cares about the beef between you two

take it to the DM

49ers clinch home field advantage, dude throws fit about two players thst aren't on even on the team, and does so in the Brock thread.

I blocked him a long time ago. It's been wonderful.

Agree 💯%, life is better!

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:

Originally posted by Giedi:
Your point was pointless in the face of facts.

Yea, it was obvious from your first response to my post that you weren't hitting on the point of the post.

The only fact here is that Brock's deal can't be renegotiated until after the end of next year so opinions on whether that's a good or bad thing for us are moot.

No need for me to *evaluate* whether or not Purdy is worth 40 Millon (or whatever) the current market rate is for the top QB. In my opinion, he *is,* based on his performance both *last year and THIS year.* Like I *said* I agree to disagree. Hence your point was *pointless.*

Originally posted by Giedi:
No problem, Average to me is basically a guy like Jeff Garcia. Good QB, but couldn't even get to the big dance. Jimmy is definitely a guy that got the 49ers to the big dance, and to me that's not *average* because how many QB's have actually QB'd a team in a super bowl, not many.

It's all good. I'm on the Jimmy thread in the NFL section and trying my best to get it to 10K

It's just a team game. Garcia's Niners weren't close to this team. Garcia wins the SB probably with that '19 team.

Originally posted by Giedi:
No need for me to *evaluate* whether or not Purdy is worth 40 Millon (or whatever) the current market rate is for the top QB. In my opinion, he *is,* based on his performance both *last year and THIS year.* Like I *said* I agree to disagree. Hence your point was *pointless.*

Surely you see that your argument is also pointless as it is a fact that next year is going to matter in terms of his contract extension. Exactly zero teams make decisions about contracts and ignore the most recent, or any, year prior to that negotiation. If Purdy doesn't play as well next year, or suffers a second major injury, he's not going to get a contract based solely on what he did at the end of 22 and in 23. That's just reality.

I get it. You love Purdy. So do I, lol.

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:

Originally posted by Giedi:
No need for me to *evaluate* whether or not Purdy is worth 40 Millon (or whatever) the current market rate is for the top QB. In my opinion, he *is,* based on his performance both *last year and THIS year.* Like I *said* I agree to disagree. Hence your point was *pointless.*

Surely you see that your argument is also pointless as it is a fact that next year is going to matter in terms of his contract extension. Exactly zero teams make decisions about contracts and ignore the most recent, or any, year prior to that negotiation. If Purdy doesn't play as well next year, or suffers a second major injury, he's not going to get a contract based solely on what he did at the end of 22 and in 23. That's just reality.

I get it. You love Purdy. So do I, lol.

It *does* matter because how you front load the contracts and who you keep will enable the 49ers to extend the Superbowl window *PAST* Purdy's rookie contract year. There *IS* a reason why Paraag and Lynch project the cap out THREE years.

Originally posted by Giedi:
It *does* matter because how you front load the contracts and who you keep will enable the 49ers to extend the Superbowl window *PAST* Purdy's rookie contract year. There *IS* a reason why Paraag and Lynch project the cap out THREE years.

I have no idea how this is relevant to the conversation.

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by Hoovtrain:

Originally posted by tankle104:

"Best QB in #NFL" Patrick Mahomes has an impressive 4,183 yards & 27 Pass TDs on the year.

Brock Purdy has a remarkable 4,280 yards & 31 Pass TDs in his first yr as starter

WAIT.. Wait…That's not the impressive part

2023 Pass Attempts:
Mahomes 597 😳
Purdy 444 👀🤯

Just WOW! pic.twitter.com/iYfcSnXWHX

— 49ers & NFL News 24/7 (@49ersSportsTalk) January 1, 2024

You obviously can't compare their situations apples to apples, but it's still interesting. I didn't think I'd see Brock have better stats than mahommes. Lol pretty damn cool, IMO.

I tend to forget he's only 1 1/2 years in. Wild

I couldn't believe the reads and throws he was making last season as a rookie. It was veteran-like from the beginning how he stayed calm to read the field, especially zone and how he used his eyes to move defenders. By the third game, I was convinced it wasn't a fluke because it was consistent and not considered 'flashing'. He can still get better. As DCs show him more things, he'll learn.

It doesn't surprise me at all to see those stats and stats that surpass Mahomes. Mahomes is a pretty darn good qb but honestly, he got pretty damn lucky with those Superbowls. The one where we played..KC wasn't the better team..they didn't shine..just the 7 mins of hell happened lol. And I have been saying it since the NFC Champ Game, we would have won against the Eagles..no question..had it not been for the injury.

I also have had no doubt that we would have our 6th ring had we faced KC. Our D would have had an injured Mahomes for lunch. And I believe BP was the better qb at the time. Yes, over Mahomes. KC won because they didn't face the true SB contenders. That's why the injury hit hard..sure, injuries happen..but I knew we had such a strong chance to get the ring, not only that but witnessing the best story to happen in NFL history. Luckily, the story did not end at that game.

I knew BP wasn't a fluke after the second start with SEA (and I sound like a broken record but damn lol). The consistency yes, along with, there were times when he was on the field, that I could not tell the difference if it was Steve Young or Purdy out there. That stunned me and simultaneously, I guess I experienced the epiphany that was Brock Purdy lol. I had to blink my eyes a few times because I just could not believe it. And..he made it look easy ..and with a broken rib.

I was happy to have Garcia and Alex..they were very good but Montana was magic, Steve also was amazing and ya start to think you won't see that kind of thing again..then..it happens. What's so awesome about it..ya weren't really expecting it..3rd stringer filling in..then BOOM. He not only took over for Jimmy..he made me forget all about Jimmy very quickly haha.

And yes, his calmness..Joe Cool like. When Joe was playing..it always exciting.."What great thing is he gunna do next?" And your eyes are locked on the TV screen..cause when Joe stepped on the field..that's what would happen. Same with Brock Purdy, "What great thing is he gunna do next?" And ya have that confidence that he will do just that, great, great things. And he does.