QB Brock Purdy Thread

Originally posted by the_dynasty:

Originally posted by sick9erfan:

Statistically speaking Brock Purdy is having the third best start to a career in recent NFL history. I looked at all the best of the last 40years and it is cut and dry. Brock Purdy is statistically better than everyone not named Marino and Mahomes.

Another thing I noticed was how high his completion % is compared to everyone else not named Mahomes. Many are in the very low 60's and the great John Elway was in the 50's. Most QB's get dramatically better from their second to third season. If that happens with Brock we are looking at astronomically high numbers next season.

Huh? Didn't Herbert set rookie records?

I think you're pretty far off in terms of completion %. Look at qb completion % nowadays vs qbs in the 80a and 90s. A 70% completion was pretty much unheard of. Now you have multiple qbs in the league putting up the 70%+ completion %.

Hell, Jimmy Gs career completion % is better than both Montana and Young. So what?

Originally posted by Bringbackedjr:

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
Grant Cohn is back to hating on Purdy. You see his latest article? So unnecessary too. Trying to throw him in with Jimmy G.

give me, the Cliff notes
or should I say Cohn notes?

He was comparing him to Jimmy G. Because Jimmy G went to the Raiders and is struggling. That means Purdy is not a franchise QB. It's all Shanahan and his system.

Grant is wrong on this one. Jimmy is not in the same league as Brock. Purdy is the real deal and will only get better. Jimmy is proving to be the guy I always thought him to be. Bench boy. Backup at best. His days in the nfl are numbered. but all he does is win….. really? Yeah. No. Sooo happy we moved on.

Originally posted by genus49:
Brock set such a high precedent with his early play and got so much hype through the first 5 games of the season that people pounced when he showed some rookie type mistakes as if he's not allowed to make them.

The same people are quick to point out that he's not the same player without all of our studs out there(and maybe they're partially right) but also refuse to acknowledge all of the great plays he made in both the Vikings and Bengals games prior to the bad turnovers.

However at the same time the team kind of set him up for this. All of the talk about him being IT and getting rid of Trey because they couldn't afford growing pains with him, you're bound to have people give Brock crap for the late turnovers when you need him to play his best.

Personally I think those people are being over the top and Brock has done too many good things for me to worry about him long term. The timing of the turnovers sucks and will overshadow all the great but those are fixable and I trust Brock to fix those things.

Also people forget that as good as we looked in the first 5 games the OL never really protected him that well. Good enough but Brock did a lot to help himself and the team. I can only imagine how much better the kid would look playing behind the Eagles OL. Yet I don't hear anyone calling for Jalen Hurts to be benched. Yet you can make a real strong case that Brock has played better than Hurts - passing numbers show it for sure but even the rushing numbers aren't crazy different as you'd expect outside of Hurts' tush push TD bonus.

Btw we saw how Hurts played without Lane Johnson for a part of a game this year - their one loss on the season where he threw 3 picks to the Jets without their starting corners in the game, 3rd one being the game losing pick as they had the lead and simply didn't need to turn the ball over. Imagine how Hurts would look without Lane Johnson or AJ Brown?

So anyone calling for Brock to be benched is a potato.

Originally posted by Montana:
Elway is overrated chat again

Originally posted by the_dynasty:

Originally posted by sick9erfan:
Statistically speaking Brock Purdy is having the third best start to a career in recent NFL history. I looked at all the best of the last 40years and it is cut and dry. Brock Purdy is statistically better than everyone not named Marino and Mahomes.

Another thing I noticed was how high his completion % is compared to everyone else not named Mahomes. Many are in the very low 60's and the great John Elway was in the 50's. Most QB's get dramatically better from their second to third season. If that happens with Brock we are looking at astronomically high numbers next season.

Huh? Didn't Herbert set rookie records?

I think you're pretty far off in terms of completion %. Look at qb completion % nowadays vs qbs in the 80a and 90s. A 70% completion was pretty much unheard of. Now you have multiple qbs in the league putting up the 70%+ completion %.

Hell, Jimmy Gs career completion % is better than both Montana and Young. So what?

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:

Purdy is better and the real deal IMO. Jimmy G is just older, injured and on a really bad team. I think he's declining. But he wasn't always useless. He's not as good as Brock though and never was.

Originally posted by OnTheClock:

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
Purdy is better and the real deal IMO. Jimmy G is just older, injured and on a really bad team. I think he's declining. But he wasn't always useless. He's not as good as Brock though and never was.

This is a perfect summary. Jimmy made some nice plays, but also plenty of horrific ones.

His coach and supporting cast is worse, and his inability to make all the throws is showing up now that he has to throw a lot more on a bad team. And yeah, the injuries are catching up to him. He's broken.

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:

Originally posted by sick9erfan:
Statistically speaking Brock Purdy is having the third best start to a career in recent NFL history. I looked at all the best of the last 40years and it is cut and dry. Brock Purdy is statistically better than everyone not named Marino and Mahomes.

Another thing I noticed was how high his completion % is compared to everyone else not named Mahomes. Many are in the very low 60's and the great John Elway was in the 50's. Most QB's get dramatically better from their second to third season. If that happens with Brock we are looking at astronomically high numbers next season.

Brock will be fine. He made some mistakes but he also made a lot of good throws. However, please stop comparing Brock, Mahomes or any QB fom the last 15 years with QBs in the 80s. The passing game was much different for most teams than it is now. Far more passes were thrown downfield than they are today. For most teams the running game was a bigger part of the game than it is now. They changed the rules to make passing easier. They niw use thise tacky gloves that make catching the ball easier.

It's a different game so please stay within an era when doing comparisons. It's like comparing a modern car with a Model T. Both get you where you want to go but not in the same manner.

Originally posted by the_dynasty:

Originally posted by sick9erfan:
Statistically speaking Brock Purdy is having the third best start to a career in recent NFL history. I looked at all the best of the last 40years and it is cut and dry. Brock Purdy is statistically better than everyone not named Marino and Mahomes.

Another thing I noticed was how high his completion % is compared to everyone else not named Mahomes. Many are in the very low 60's and the great John Elway was in the 50's. Most QB's get dramatically better from their second to third season. If that happens with Brock we are looking at astronomically high numbers next season.

Huh? Didn't Herbert set rookie records?

I think you're pretty far off in terms of completion %. Look at qb completion % nowadays vs qbs in the 80a and 90s. A 70% completion was pretty much unheard of. Now you have multiple qbs in the league putting up the 70%+ completion %.

Hell, Jimmy Gs career completion % is better than both Montana and Young. So what?

Originally posted by sick9erfan:
I totally forgot about Herbert, I did say(statistically better). Elways numbers were actually pretty bad, surprising

Originally posted by OnTheClock:

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
Purdy is better and the real deal IMO. Jimmy G is just older, injured and on a really bad team. I think he's declining. But he wasn't always useless. He's not as good as Brock though and never was.

This is a perfect summary. Jimmy made some nice plays, but also plenty of horrific ones.

His coach and supporting cast is worse, and his inability to make all the throws is showing up now that he has to throw a lot more on a bad team. And yeah, the injuries are catching up to him. He's broken.

Originally posted by 8080849ers:
Someone probably posted this already but a great breakdown to put things into perspective.