QB Brock Purdy Thread

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by Young2Owens:
I hope that we will look back at this time as very important for BP and his development. I hope this will be when Brock had to learn to put the team on his back and win games when everything else isn't going right. Up until this point he has never been in this position in his pro career.

0-2-1 at this, in the last 3

yes i am aware, what is your point?

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:

Originally posted by Niners99:
Purdy's last 17 full games (first full season as a pro):

300-444 (68% comp.)
3887 yds (228 ypg)
28 TD
8 INT
2 FUM
4 rushing TD
28 sacks

Compare that to Geno Smith's last 17 games in the same span, who is a veteran pro bowler.

Geno's last 17 full games:

395-583 (68% comp.)
4256 yds (250 ypg)
28 TD
15 INT
5 FUM
0 rushing TD
44 sacks

He's plenty good enough when you look at it over time.

There is just the usual Webzone panic and anxiety going on at the moment. The kid had oodles of natural talent but is still at the end of his rookie stage and will make some mistakes. The good thing about Brock is he learns from his mistakes and will be hardened in the furnace of experience. He is just having growing pains. He did a lot of awesome things in the last game with both his arm and legs.

Originally posted by Young2Owens:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by Young2Owens:
I hope that we will look back at this time as very important for BP and his development. I hope this will be when Brock had to learn to put the team on his back and win games when everything else isn't going right. Up until this point he has never been in this position in his pro career.

0-2-1 at this, in the last 3

yes i am aware, what is your point?

It's an interesting discussion, cuz that's what you look for imo, in a FQB.
Montana, Brady, Mahomes, would find a way to get you that game, when the chips are down..
so far he isn't passing the test you describe.. there is always next week or, in this case, the week after next

Originally posted by Goatie:

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:

Originally posted by Niners99:
Purdy's last 17 full games (first full season as a pro):

300-444 (68% comp.)
3887 yds (228 ypg)
28 TD
8 INT
2 FUM
4 rushing TD
28 sacks

Compare that to Geno Smith's last 17 games in the same span, who is a veteran pro bowler.

Geno's last 17 full games:

395-583 (68% comp.)
4256 yds (250 ypg)
28 TD
15 INT
5 FUM
0 rushing TD
44 sacks

He's plenty good enough when you look at it over time.

There is just the usual Webzone panic and anxiety going on at the moment. The kid had oodles of natural talent but is still at the end of his rookie stage and will make some mistakes. The good thing about Brock is he learns from his mistakes and will be hardened in the furnace of experience. He is just having growing pains. He did a lot of awesome things in the last game with both his arm and legs.

Yes I agree completely. I would also expect him to have some ups and downs at this stage. He's still a rookie on number of games. Too much panic about him. I don't think he's even the main problem. The defense is horrendous. Injuries on offense too.

Originally posted by Young2Owens:
yes i am aware, what is your point?

He wants the backup guy to play

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by Young2Owens:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by Young2Owens:
I hope that we will look back at this time as very important for BP and his development. I hope this will be when Brock had to learn to put the team on his back and win games when everything else isn't going right. Up until this point he has never been in this position in his pro career.

0-2-1 at this, in the last 3

yes i am aware, what is your point?

It's an interesting discussion, cuz that's what you look for imo, in a FQB.
Montana, Brady, Mahomes, would find a way to get you that game, when the chips are down..
so far he isn't passing the test you describe.. there is always next week or, in this case, the week after next

Did those guys always have that ability? You are assuming that HoF QBs all just came out the womb winning in the clutch. Did Curry win every clutch shot he had to take early in his career?

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:

Originally posted by Young2Owens:
yes i am aware, what is your point?

He wants the backup guy to play

he already did play, look at these first half stats

Originally posted by Young2Owens:
Did those guys always have that ability? You are assuming that HoF QBs all just came out the womb winning in the clutch. Did Curry win every clutch shot he had to take early in his career?

I think Joe was always Joe Cool, he was doing it at ND
Brady won the SB on a gw drive his first year playing
Mahomes similar immediate success when playing, and no lead is safe

I would say yeah, they did, more or less
BP looked very special also, see BP vs Tampa
this coming from behind, is a new issue, and really perhaps a KS issue

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
I think Joe was always Joe Cool, he was doing it at ND
Brady won the SB on a gw drive his first year playing
Mahomes similar immediate success when playing, and no lead is safe

I would say yeah, they did, more or less
BP looked very special also, see BP vs Tampa
this coming from behind, is a new issue, and really perhaps a KS issue

Its a young player making mistakes issue. All those guys struggled early too. It takes time.

Hey, at least Brocktober is over.

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:

Originally posted by Goatie:

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:

Originally posted by Niners99:
Purdy's last 17 full games (first full season as a pro):

300-444 (68% comp.)
3887 yds (228 ypg)
28 TD
8 INT
2 FUM
4 rushing TD
28 sacks

Compare that to Geno Smith's last 17 games in the same span, who is a veteran pro bowler.

Geno's last 17 full games:

395-583 (68% comp.)
4256 yds (250 ypg)
28 TD
15 INT
5 FUM
0 rushing TD
44 sacks

He's plenty good enough when you look at it over time.

There is just the usual Webzone panic and anxiety going on at the moment. The kid had oodles of natural talent but is still at the end of his rookie stage and will make some mistakes. The good thing about Brock is he learns from his mistakes and will be hardened in the furnace of experience. He is just having growing pains. He did a lot of awesome things in the last game with both his arm and legs.

Yes I agree completely. I would also expect him to have some ups and downs at this stage. He's still a rookie on number of games. Too much panic about him. I don't think he's even the main problem. The defense is horrendous. Injuries on offense too.

Usually when the passer is missing it goes down to a coordination problem with the Oline and receivers not doing what they need to do on time. Purdy has show he is accurate and mostly makes the right decisions. But needs to settle down a little when things are not going to plan. No big deal really. Team needs to spend more time getting in sync. The bye week will help that as long as they are working and not lounging around blowing their cash.

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by Young2Owens:
Did those guys always have that ability? You are assuming that HoF QBs all just came out the womb winning in the clutch. Did Curry win every clutch shot he had to take early in his career?

I think Joe was always Joe Cool, he was doing it at ND
Brady won the SB on a gw drive his first year playing
Mahomes similar immediate success when playing, and no lead is safe

I would say yeah, they did, more or less
BP looked very special also, see BP vs Tampa
this coming from behind, is a new issue, and really perhaps a KS issue

so you're saying if he isn't winning like joe and pat right out the gate then he's not the guy…just like those other bums, peyton and drew….

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:

Originally posted by Niners99:

Purdy's last 17 full games (first full season as a pro):

300-444 (68% comp.)
3887 yds (228 ypg)
28 TD
8 INT
2 FUM
4 rushing TD
28 sacks

Compare that to Geno Smith's last 17 games in the same span, who is a veteran pro bowler.

Geno's last 17 full games:

395-583 (68% comp.)
4256 yds (250 ypg)
28 TD
15 INT
5 FUM
0 rushing TD
44 sacks

He's plenty good enough when you look at it over time.

It's both mind-boggling yet not surprising that so many fans are saying he's not good all of a sudden. They are so emotionally fragile, that the first real cluster of struggles for a 23-year 2nd year QB somehow outweighs everything positive he's done and that he has no chance to improve.

Purdy simply has tried to do too much the past couple games at bad times unfortunately. He's got a fantastic football IQ with good mobility, a quick release, and perfectly adequate arm, IMO. He's just not played in the NFL very long and has to do better to eat the ball at times. Teams are going to use his smarts against him to bait him, he'll need to adjust.

Purdy is smart enough to adjust to the NFL adjusting to him. We're seeing the NFL figuring some things out about him, and I expect us to work with Brock to counter that stuff.

Originally posted by OnTheClock:

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:

Originally posted by Niners99:
Purdy's last 17 full games (first full season as a pro):

300-444 (68% comp.)
3887 yds (228 ypg)
28 TD
8 INT
2 FUM
4 rushing TD
28 sacks

Compare that to Geno Smith's last 17 games in the same span, who is a veteran pro bowler.

Geno's last 17 full games:

395-583 (68% comp.)
4256 yds (250 ypg)
28 TD
15 INT
5 FUM
0 rushing TD
44 sacks

He's plenty good enough when you look at it over time.

It's both mind-boggling yet not surprising that so many fans are saying he's not good all of a sudden. They are so emotionally fragile, that the first real cluster of struggles for a 23-year 2nd year QB somehow outweighs everything positive he's done and that he has no chance to improve.

Purdy simply has tried to do too much the past couple games at bad times unfortunately. He's got a fantastic football IQ with good mobility, a quick release, and perfectly adequate arm, IMO. He's just not played in the NFL very long and has to do better to eat the ball at times. Teams are going to use his smarts against him to bait him, he'll need to adjust.

Purdy is smart enough to adjust to the NFL adjusting to him. We're seeing the NFL figuring some things out about him, and I expect us to work with Brock to counter that stuff.

Yes I agree with those. You are right. He has shown a lot of good things. He will continue to do so too and improve.

Originally posted by Young2Owens:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by Young2Owens:
Did those guys always have that ability? You are assuming that HoF QBs all just came out the womb winning in the clutch. Did Curry win every clutch shot he had to take early in his career?

I think Joe was always Joe Cool, he was doing it at ND
Brady won the SB on a gw drive his first year playing
Mahomes similar immediate success when playing, and no lead is safe

I would say yeah, they did, more or less
BP looked very special also, see BP vs Tampa
this coming from behind, is a new issue, and really perhaps a KS issue

so you're saying if he isn't winning like joe and pat right out the gate then he's not the guy…just like those other bums, peyton and drew….

Let's not read a bunch into everything, I said he's not passing the test the last 3 weeks,
I mentioned some guys as FQBs, and you asked if they had it from the jump, I think those particular guys did
that doesn't mean you can't grow into the role, we saw a lot of QBs do that, like a Steve Young, for example