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Originally posted by D0PEMAN:
Originally posted by Chance:
Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
Originally posted by Chance:
Originally posted by D0PEMAN:
the bar has fallen so low.....we went from "he's the next tom brady" to "he is still better than jimmy".

so sad

That's because fans are fickle. People don't have patience and let their emotions carry them from the highs to the lows. Every QB struggles. It's just the nature of the game. I'm not leaving the Purdy bandwagon because even through his struggles, he's still making brilliant plays, he's still showing that he has immense potential. We forget that this dude hasn't even played a full season worth of games. Give him some rope my dudes and ladies.

Nobody is forgetting that he's still learning. The issue is that he's starting to make bad throws that he wasn't making before. Maybe he's trying to do too much. Maybe he just plays better with the lead. This 3 game losing streak certainly isn't all on Brock but he's part of it. Instead of making the big plays like he was he's making big mistakes. Not just turnovers but critical turnovers. That has to stop.

Yeah, that happens to all QBs. Mahomes, Allen, Burrows, Herbert, etc. all make boneheaded throws, all have stretches of throwing picks in bad times. It literally happens to every QB in the league. Yet we can't handle our young QB having a bad stretch without sounding like toddlers. Have some f**king perspective.

this is all fine IF we niners are in a "rebuilding mode", we'd have all the patience in the world

but truth is the niners are in WIN NOW mode, and you can win a superbowl being a turnover machine

it doesnt sound fair for brock, but that's the position he's in...we got rid of lance and jimmy because he was supposed to be "the one" THIS YEAR.

Lol, you don't need to be in rebuild mode for a QB to get out of a funk. Purdy led this team to the doorstep last year, he's proven that he can be the QB on a championship roster. But this entire roster is s**tting the bed right now, not just Purdy. And that's okay. It's called adversity and it's needed in order to forge a stronger team. These guys all need to be punched in the mouth. They all need to do some soul searching. And if they are who we thing and hope they are, this team will pull through be f**king steamrolling teams at the right time.
Originally posted by Dshearn:
ok drop 70 off it

So 295 yards passing, 50 yards on the ground.... for a dude who got hit 8 times and sacked twice when he was not running for his life....he had one of the more difficult 300 yard games.

There is a correlation between protecting your QB and 300 yard games....that was my point.

You don't have to drop off any stats. On yards at least he had a lot.
Originally posted by Chance:
Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
Originally posted by Chance:
Originally posted by D0PEMAN:
the bar has fallen so low.....we went from "he's the next tom brady" to "he is still better than jimmy".

so sad

That's because fans are fickle. People don't have patience and let their emotions carry them from the highs to the lows. Every QB struggles. It's just the nature of the game. I'm not leaving the Purdy bandwagon because even through his struggles, he's still making brilliant plays, he's still showing that he has immense potential. We forget that this dude hasn't even played a full season worth of games. Give him some rope my dudes and ladies.

Nobody is forgetting that he's still learning. The issue is that he's starting to make bad throws that he wasn't making before. Maybe he's trying to do too much. Maybe he just plays better with the lead. This 3 game losing streak certainly isn't all on Brock but he's part of it. Instead of making the big plays like he was he's making big mistakes. Not just turnovers but critical turnovers. That has to stop.

Yeah, that happens to all QBs. Mahomes, Allen, Burrows, Herbert, etc. all make boneheaded throws, all have stretches of throwing picks in bad times. It literally happens to every QB in the league. Yet we can't handle our young QB having a bad stretch without sounding like toddlers. Have some f**king perspective.

Every fan base in the league is going to be upset when you lose 3 straight and the offense hasn't scored more than 17 points in any of those games.
  • Koldo
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Originally posted by Monsterniner:
Purdy is great when everything goes as planned but when we need him to step up in the second half we're srewed.

You're actually describing Shanahan.
  • Koldo
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Originally posted by Pillbusta:
When we spend three firsts we were supposed to have a QB that can overcome that at least half of the time. When we don't develop said QB for his backup then that backup better look like a guy we gave up on three firsts for. And he better look like it this year because I was told the last three seasons that this is a Super Bowl team and we can't develop a QB here even one we spent three firsts on because of that fact

I was told bump Trey because Brock is the real deal. Well, let's see it right god damn now

Wrong, we got rid of Trey because he sucked, otherwise, he would have had a chance to compete for the starting job.
The can't come from behind stat when trailing 8 points in 4th Q in what is it 37 games? How can that f**king be? It almost sounds like make believe. Kyle has choked in the 4th quarter long before Brock.

Brock feels right. He will come thru this.
Originally posted by Koldo:
Originally posted by Monsterniner:
Purdy is great when everything goes as planned but when we need him to step up in the second half we're srewed.

You're actually describing Shanahan.
Brock made some clutch throws in all three losses including a couple that put us in a position to win in Cleveland. I still have a lot of faith in Brock. I've learned a lot from Brock's play over the past couple of games such as scrambling, clutch throws when the game is on the line, long third down completions, and his short memory to his mistakes. I'm not sure what is going on with our offensive team from the first five games, but have faith they will get right. Now the defense on the other hand, even during the 5-0 stretch, is not the same defense as last season. This with adding some key free agents. I take Brock over any other 49er qb we've had during the Shanahan era...
  • bud49
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Has much has no one wants to hear this if Brock continues to struggle Kyle will go to Darnold. Not my decision or anyone elses it will be Kyles and I don't see him continuing on with Brock if he continues to turn over the ball.
Originally posted by Koldo:
Originally posted by Pillbusta:
When we spend three firsts we were supposed to have a QB that can overcome that at least half of the time. When we don't develop said QB for his backup then that backup better look like a guy we gave up on three firsts for. And he better look like it this year because I was told the last three seasons that this is a Super Bowl team and we can't develop a QB here even one we spent three firsts on because of that fact

I was told bump Trey because Brock is the real deal. Well, let's see it right god damn now

Wrong, we got rid of Trey because he sucked, otherwise, he would have had a chance to compete for the starting job.

Agree. People are hyper focused on the picks which I get but there have been at least 10 throws in the last 3 games that were elite level throws in terms of ball placement and anticipation. Trey really never came close to that other than with a couple minutes left in a pre season game
against 2nd-3rd stringers.

I'm concerned about Brock but closing the book on him is an overreaction at this point. Alex Smith got what…5-6 years to get it together? Granted the situation was different and I'm certainly not saying Brock should that luxury but closing the book after basically 15-16 games considering the entire body of work is ludicrous. He's had a better start to a "season" (16 games) than any rookie in recent memory. I'd say he's, so far, our best QB since Jeff Garcia.

Now all that said…if he comes out AFTER the bye with Trent/Deebo/adjustments/2 weeks of practice…and does more dumb s**t…then yes it's time to have a come to Jesus meeting.
A great deal of the problem is the OLine!

Purdy was our leading rusher yesterday - what does that tell you bout the OLine?

They couldn't run block and sucked in pass protection.

Purdy certainly didn't play very well but he didn't get much help either.
Originally posted by 49ersRing:
Originally posted by Chance:
Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
Originally posted by Chance:
Originally posted by D0PEMAN:
the bar has fallen so low.....we went from "he's the next tom brady" to "he is still better than jimmy".

so sad

That's because fans are fickle. People don't have patience and let their emotions carry them from the highs to the lows. Every QB struggles. It's just the nature of the game. I'm not leaving the Purdy bandwagon because even through his struggles, he's still making brilliant plays, he's still showing that he has immense potential. We forget that this dude hasn't even played a full season worth of games. Give him some rope my dudes and ladies.

Nobody is forgetting that he's still learning. The issue is that he's starting to make bad throws that he wasn't making before. Maybe he's trying to do too much. Maybe he just plays better with the lead. This 3 game losing streak certainly isn't all on Brock but he's part of it. Instead of making the big plays like he was he's making big mistakes. Not just turnovers but critical turnovers. That has to stop.

Yeah, that happens to all QBs. Mahomes, Allen, Burrows, Herbert, etc. all make boneheaded throws, all have stretches of throwing picks in bad times. It literally happens to every QB in the league. Yet we can't handle our young QB having a bad stretch without sounding like toddlers. Have some f**king perspective.

Every fan base in the league is going to be upset when you lose 3 straight and the offense hasn't scored more than 17 points in any of those games.

Sure, I'm upset. There's a difference between being upset and freaking out like a child. Like, we're 5-3. And it's not like this is the first 49ers team in recent memory to deal with adversity. KS has consistently had this team overcome difficult stretches and come through stronger by season's end. It's like our fanbase is full of sentient goldfish.
Originally posted by 9erson3:
The can't come from behind stat when trailing 8 points in 4th Q in what is it 37 games? How can that f**king be? It almost sounds like make believe. Kyle has choked in the 4th quarter long before Brock.

Brock feels right. He will come thru this.

That's an absolutely brutal statistic. So basically if you go up 2 scores vs a Shanahan team…it's a wrap. lol. That's just…wow. 0-37?
Originally posted by LambdaChi49:
That's an absolutely brutal statistic. So basically if you go up 2 scores vs a Shanahan team…it's a wrap. lol. That's just…wow. 0-37?

https://www.essentiallysports.com/nfl-nfcn-news-not-so-clutch-forty-niners-set-unwanted-record-under-kyle-shanahan-make-it-thirty-seven-losses-in-a-row-when-trailing-by-eight-points/

Josh Dubow, an associated sports writer, recently shared a shocking stat about the 49ers. 63-14 is the record of the 49ers under Kyle Shanahan when not trailing by more than one score. That's pretty good, right? In contrast, when Red and Gold are behind by more than 8 points in the 4th quarter, Kyle Shanahan is 0-37. Yikes. It seems like one of the most dominant and physical teams in the whole of football in the past few years just can't seem to get out of the hole they dug. The worst thing about this is that only one team has a worse record than San Fran in the same span.
[ Edited by 9erson3 on Oct 30, 2023 at 10:45 AM ]
Originally posted by 9erson3:
https://www.essentiallysports.com/nfl-nfcn-news-not-so-clutch-forty-niners-set-unwanted-record-under-kyle-shanahan-make-it-thirty-seven-losses-in-a-row-when-trailing-by-eight-points/

Josh Dubow, an associated sports writer, recently shared a shocking stat about the 49ers. 63-14 is the record of the 49ers under Kyle Shanahan when not trailing by more than one score. That's pretty good, right? In contrast, when Red and Gold are behind by more than 8 points in the 4th quarter, Kyle Shanahan is 0-37. Yikes. It seems like one of the most dominant and physical teams in the whole of football in the past few years just can't seem to get out of the hole they dug. The worst thing about this is that only one team has a worse record than San Fran in the same span.

Speaks to the quarterback play. I can guarantee you in Atlanta he didn't have that record. If we can get Brock to a consistent top qb level those numbers will change.
Originally posted by 49ersRing:
Originally posted by Rathof44:
Originally posted by 9erson3:
I'll stand alone on an island and call BS. All the years with Jimmy and even in good it just never felt right.

Brock has thrown some amazing throws and completions. Despite what the heck is going on I still feel like he can march it down the field and win it any given Sunday. What does he have, three more games and it's officially one full football year of play? It hasn't even been one full football year yet in play. I look at the over all package and not only is he the one but he will be the one for years to come. Don't understand the hate.

Im more annoyed with Wilks.

Agree. He is still better than Jimmy and miles better than the dude who couldn't beat out Darnold. Defense has allowed almost 900 yards of offense and an 82% completion rate the last two games. Brock has been good but can't carry the team by himself if the defense cannot stop anybody. Get rid of that f**king loser Wilks today or miss the playoffs...pretty simple.

It's going to be hard to win regardless of what the defense is doing when you're turning the ball over 3 times and only scoring 17 points.

Yes, but those 3 picks and only scoring 17 are more than just Purdy.

With better defensive play, this team would be scoring in the 20s consistently, and with Deebo/Trent back 30+ or at least knocking on 30.

I mean, we saw all this from earlier.

Offense isn't the concern. For years it has always been a concern, and for once it really isn't.

Maybe it in the short term, but definitely not the long term.....IF THE DEFENSE RETURNS TO RESPECTABILITY.
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