QB Brock Purdy Thread

Originally posted by Sanfran_chrisco:

Originally posted by YACBros85:

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Originally posted by Sanfran_chrisco:

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Originally posted by YoungQBCompetition:

Originally posted by YACBros85:
Yes. Just like I watch every game every week. Watch multiple film breakdowns throughout the week as well. Do you watch the games? The offense has turned the ball over multiple times and has failed to score on more than 3 possessions in each of the last 2 games. I also saw a defense that gave up a whole lot of yards but not many points all things considering. You act like Kirk threw 4 TD's against our defense, gave up 35 points and we got blown out.

What you don't get is that the 49ers barely had the ball because the defense couldn't get off the field. There were barely any possessions in this game.

The 49ers have punted just 22 times so far this year (would be among the lowest punt totals in NFL history), and have barely turned it over. Yet they aren't scoring many points because the defense is garbage.

Wrong. Both the 49ers and vikings had 9 possessions each. Both 49ers and CLE each had 13 possessions in their game.

The 49ers offense has turned the ball over 4 times in the last 2 games and have averaged 17 points per game in that span. Teams are only 4-14 when their offense only puts up 17 points in a game this season.

pretty sure he's referring to total time. equal amount of total possessions, yes

So if they both had the same amount of possessions but the TOP is lopsided, it means that one offense was able to move the ball more affectively than the other.

exactly. the Vikings offense was able to move the ball more effectively and our defense couldn't get off the field. this has been a recurring problem defensively.

I could also easily say that our offense wasn't able to move the ball as affectively and failed to score on 6 of its 9 possessions. This has been a recurring problem offensively.

except they were able to move the ball effectively. especially compared to the last game. Purdy had a 70% completion %. just can't have 3 turnovers.

Are the TO's not included in you evaluation of the offense? Yes. Lets dismiss 3 TO's including 1 in the redzone after the defense gift wrapped the offense excellent starting field position after a TO of their own.

Originally posted by YACBros85:
You take away that 1 boneheaded call by Wilks at the end of the first half and no one is even talking about the defensive performance. Instead, we are talking about how a stacked 49ers offense barely squeaked by a very average Vikings defense and winning the game 17-16.

oh they're talking about the defensive performance still, just without calling for Wilks' head

Originally posted by Sanfran_chrisco:

Originally posted by YACBros85:

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Originally posted by Bringbackedjr:

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:

Originally posted by bassmanr:

Originally posted by brodiebluebanaszak:

Originally posted by bassmanr:
I agree, Purdy had a good game, not great but good until after the sneak. If you look at some of his passes he threaded the needle to the receivers. If us older fans can remember the Cleveland game in 1981. I had the same feeling... it sure was fun when we thought they were going to win it all. What happened we won it all despite everyone thinking the season was over and Joe was a flash in the pan. Not saying BCB is Joe but he's closer than we have had in a long time. Let's see how this season goes on.

Brock is the only reason we wete in the game to that point. He was having a decent game until the two pic throws. Not really bothered especially with talk about the bonk on the head.

If they start talking about the elbow now I'm worried

Yes if his elbow is off, that would cause him to not throw accurately until it healed. Bonk on the head will get better.

His elbow is fine and so is his head. The hit wasn't that bad. If not for these ridiculous over sensitive concussion protocols they wouldn't even be doing this.

All of this. Brock is him. CMC fumble set off a chain of unfortunate events. The head bonk did not help. We are fine on the offensive side. I would like to see more mason and bell though…. The D is an embarrassment. Fix that and we start racking up wins again.

agreed. they need to tighten their s**t up

Offense is scoring 16 points less per game since week 5. Defense is giving up 7 more points per game since week 5.

16 > 7

Offense needs to tighten their s**t up.

the defense gave up over 400+ yards of offense this last game, and got 0 sacks on Cousins. a statue.

the defense needs to tighten their s**t up

Offenses that have scored exactly 17 points in a game this season are currently 4-14. Offense needs to tighten their s**t up.

so you essentially didn't even watch the game then. got it, lol

Those types of insults are so comical and are used only when the debate has been lost. 🤣

did you watch the full game?

Yes. Just like I watch every game every week. Watch multiple film breakdowns throughout the week as well. Do you watch the games? The offense has turned the ball over multiple times and has failed to score on more than 3 possessions in each of the last 2 games. I also saw a defense that gave up a whole lot of yards but not many points all things considering. You act like Kirk threw 4 TD's against our defense, gave up 35 points and we got blown out.

then why do you keep citing only scores? the defense has been underperforming very uncharacteristically the past couple weeks starting with the run defense.

I guess you paid no attention to all the talk revolving around Steve Wilks all week.

the problem with the offense the past couple weeks has been more turnovers than usual, and missed field goals on special teams. other than that, they've been generating yardage and moving the chains.

the defense is more alarming without question from pass rush, run defense, poorly timed play calls, and huge gaps wide open in zone coverage.

the offense needs to clean up the turnovers, but the defense needs to get their s**t together and tighten the f**k up.

If you cannot see that the offense has been underperforming worse than the defense than you don't know what you are watching. Total yards are for fantasy f*gs. Games are won and lost by points, not yards.

based on the standard we've come to expect from the defense, this is primarily why I put more on the defense int terms of underperforming. but offense being "worse" than the defense? that's a stretch. the only game you can make that argument for is the Browns game. Purdy had his worst game..Versus the Vikings, the offense was a lot more efficient aside from a few turnovers. Defense had a poor game as well vs. the Browns, again, and have consistently underperformed.

since total yards are for fantasy f*gs let's look at rushing yards given up. the defense couldn't get off the field and Cousins picked them apart. total time of possession shows this

rushing yards allowed / avg per carry
PITT 41 / 4.1
LA 89 / 4
NYG 29 / 2.6
ARI 105 / 4.2
DAL 57 / 3
CLE 160 / 4.7
VIK 74 / 3.5

(yes I'm aware teams also have to pass more when behind)

what film reviews do you watch?

Is the offense's job not to score points? And speaking of rushing yards. CMC has averaged 3.38 ypc over the past 2 weeks. Aiyuk has taken a step back, Kittle has barely gotten involved and apparently Bell and Mason aren't good enough to even get any snaps with Deebo injured and CMC underperforming in the run game.

Truth is, the defense does share some of the blame and I have stated as such. But to completely dismiss the fact that the offense went from averaging 33 ppg in weeks 1-5 to 17 ppg in weeks 6-7 is more concerning than the defense going from giving up 14 ppg to giving up 21 ppg. You fantasy guys weigh yards way too heavily. Yards don't win or lose you games, points do.

what film reviews did you watch?

I watch jonnydel, Kyle Posey, Josh Putnam, Jackson Kreuger as far as guys who do 49ers content. I also watch film from Baldy, Kurt Warner, Chase Daniel and JTO.

no what film review(s) did you watch from last week's game? not in general

I watched them all.

Originally posted by Sanfran_chrisco:

Originally posted by YACBros85:
You take away that 1 boneheaded call by Wilks at the end of the first half and no one is even talking about the defensive performance. Instead, we are talking about how a stacked 49ers offense barely squeaked by a very average Vikings defense and winning the game 17-16.

oh they're talking about the defensive performance still, just without calling for Wilks' head

No they're not. No one is talking down on a defense that held the opposition to 16 points. Anyone who does that is purposely using the defense to scapegoat the offense.

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by Sanfran_chrisco:

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Originally posted by YoungQBCompetition:

Originally posted by YACBros85:
Yes. Just like I watch every game every week. Watch multiple film breakdowns throughout the week as well. Do you watch the games? The offense has turned the ball over multiple times and has failed to score on more than 3 possessions in each of the last 2 games. I also saw a defense that gave up a whole lot of yards but not many points all things considering. You act like Kirk threw 4 TD's against our defense, gave up 35 points and we got blown out.

What you don't get is that the 49ers barely had the ball because the defense couldn't get off the field. There were barely any possessions in this game.

The 49ers have punted just 22 times so far this year (would be among the lowest punt totals in NFL history), and have barely turned it over. Yet they aren't scoring many points because the defense is garbage.

Wrong. Both the 49ers and vikings had 9 possessions each. Both 49ers and CLE each had 13 possessions in their game.

The 49ers offense has turned the ball over 4 times in the last 2 games and have averaged 17 points per game in that span. Teams are only 4-14 when their offense only puts up 17 points in a game this season.

pretty sure he's referring to total time. equal amount of total possessions, yes

So if they both had the same amount of possessions but the TOP is lopsided, it means that one offense was able to move the ball more affectively than the other.

exactly. the Vikings offense was able to move the ball more effectively and our defense couldn't get off the field. this has been a recurring problem defensively.

I could also easily say that our offense wasn't able to move the ball as affectively and failed to score on 6 of its 9 possessions. This has been a recurring problem offensively.

except they were able to move the ball effectively. especially compared to the last game. Purdy had a 70% completion %. just can't have 3 turnovers.

Are the TO's not included in you evaluation of the offense? Yes. Lets dismiss 3 TO's including 1 in the redzone after the defense gift wrapped the offense excellent starting field position after a TO of their own.

we were evaluating efficiency in regards to moving the ball here in this quote chain and TOP. of which was a night and day difference compared to last week with our offense.

Originally posted by YACBros85:
I watched them all.

then why do you disagree people aren't still talking about the defensive performance even if wilks didn't make a poorly timed call? you watched jd's breakdown, no?

Originally posted by Sanfran_chrisco:

Originally posted by YACBros85:

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Originally posted by Sanfran_chrisco:

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Originally posted by YoungQBCompetition:

Originally posted by YACBros85:
Yes. Just like I watch every game every week. Watch multiple film breakdowns throughout the week as well. Do you watch the games? The offense has turned the ball over multiple times and has failed to score on more than 3 possessions in each of the last 2 games. I also saw a defense that gave up a whole lot of yards but not many points all things considering. You act like Kirk threw 4 TD's against our defense, gave up 35 points and we got blown out.

What you don't get is that the 49ers barely had the ball because the defense couldn't get off the field. There were barely any possessions in this game.

The 49ers have punted just 22 times so far this year (would be among the lowest punt totals in NFL history), and have barely turned it over. Yet they aren't scoring many points because the defense is garbage.

Wrong. Both the 49ers and vikings had 9 possessions each. Both 49ers and CLE each had 13 possessions in their game.

The 49ers offense has turned the ball over 4 times in the last 2 games and have averaged 17 points per game in that span. Teams are only 4-14 when their offense only puts up 17 points in a game this season.

pretty sure he's referring to total time. equal amount of total possessions, yes

So if they both had the same amount of possessions but the TOP is lopsided, it means that one offense was able to move the ball more affectively than the other.

exactly. the Vikings offense was able to move the ball more effectively and our defense couldn't get off the field. this has been a recurring problem defensively.

I could also easily say that our offense wasn't able to move the ball as affectively and failed to score on 6 of its 9 possessions. This has been a recurring problem offensively.

except they were able to move the ball effectively. especially compared to the last game. Purdy had a 70% completion %. just can't have 3 turnovers.

Are the TO's not included in you evaluation of the offense? Yes. Lets dismiss 3 TO's including 1 in the redzone after the defense gift wrapped the offense excellent starting field position after a TO of their own.

we were evaluating efficiency in regards to moving the ball here in this quote chain and TOP. of which was a night and day difference compared to last week with our offense.

Yea. You obviously don't know what you are talking about when it comes TOP. TOP is a 2 way street. If the offense was more efficient, they would have had just as many minutes with the ball as the other team since both teams possessed the ball the same amount of times. Points per drive is an efficiency stat as well and the offense has failed miserably at it the past 2 weeks.

Originally posted by Sanfran_chrisco:

Originally posted by YACBros85:
I watched them all.

then why do you disagree people aren't still talking about the defensive performance even if wilks didn't make a poorly timed call? you watched jd's breakdown, no?

Just because I watch them, doesn't mean I agree with everything they state. Are you a puppet? I am highly capable of making my own assessments. Yes. The defense gave up a lot of yards but so few points considering all those yards. Our offense averaged 3.0 ypc in the run game and turned the ball over 3 times and failed to score more than 17 points in 2 consecutive games. Offense has not been very efficient. To argue against that or to even argue about the defense in the Brock Purdy thread seems like an extreme act of deflection when it comes to placing blame on the offense.

On script, he should be fine today. Off script, it's a different story.

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by Sanfran_chrisco:

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Originally posted by YoungQBCompetition:

Originally posted by YACBros85:
Yes. Just like I watch every game every week. Watch multiple film breakdowns throughout the week as well. Do you watch the games? The offense has turned the ball over multiple times and has failed to score on more than 3 possessions in each of the last 2 games. I also saw a defense that gave up a whole lot of yards but not many points all things considering. You act like Kirk threw 4 TD's against our defense, gave up 35 points and we got blown out.

What you don't get is that the 49ers barely had the ball because the defense couldn't get off the field. There were barely any possessions in this game.

The 49ers have punted just 22 times so far this year (would be among the lowest punt totals in NFL history), and have barely turned it over. Yet they aren't scoring many points because the defense is garbage.

Wrong. Both the 49ers and vikings had 9 possessions each. Both 49ers and CLE each had 13 possessions in their game.

The 49ers offense has turned the ball over 4 times in the last 2 games and have averaged 17 points per game in that span. Teams are only 4-14 when their offense only puts up 17 points in a game this season.

pretty sure he's referring to total time. equal amount of total possessions, yes

So if they both had the same amount of possessions but the TOP is lopsided, it means that one offense was able to move the ball more affectively than the other.

exactly. the Vikings offense was able to move the ball more effectively and our defense couldn't get off the field. this has been a recurring problem defensively.

I could also easily say that our offense wasn't able to move the ball as affectively and failed to score on 6 of its 9 possessions. This has been a recurring problem offensively.

except they were able to move the ball effectively. especially compared to the last game. Purdy had a 70% completion %. just can't have 3 turnovers.

Are the TO's not included in you evaluation of the offense? Yes. Lets dismiss 3 TO's including 1 in the redzone after the defense gift wrapped the offense excellent starting field position after a TO of their own.

we were evaluating efficiency in regards to moving the ball here in this quote chain and TOP. of which was a night and day difference compared to last week with our offense.

Yea. You obviously don't know what you are talking about when it comes TOP. TOP is a 2 way street. If the offense was more efficient, they would have had just as many minutes with the ball as the other team since both teams possessed the ball the same amount of times. Points per drive is an efficiency stat as well and the offense has failed miserably at it the past 2 weeks.

no, the offense was more efficient compared to their performance the week before. I'm comparing CLE game vs. Vikings. that is unquestionable based on multiple metrics.

as for TOP, just because OUR offense didn't "have as many" minutes as the other offense, doesn't mean they were more inefficient. that literally just means the Vikings ate up all the possession time and that falls more on our defense.

the offense can be more efficient in ways other than time of possession. like, 3rd down efficiency in quarterback completion percentage. etc

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by Sanfran_chrisco:

Originally posted by YACBros85:
I watched them all.

then why do you disagree people aren't still talking about the defensive performance even if wilks didn't make a poorly timed call? you watched jd's breakdown, no?

Just because I watch them, doesn't mean I agree with everything they state. Are you a puppet? I am highly capable of making my own assessments. Yes. The defense gave up a lot of yards but so few points considering all those yards. Our offense averaged 3.0 ypc in the run game and turned the ball over 3 times and failed to score more than 17 points in 2 consecutive games. Offense has not been very efficient. To argue against that or to even argue about the defense in the Brock Purdy thread seems like an extreme act of deflection when it comes to placing blame on the offense.

see above in regards to defining efficiency and metrics thato come with it

also I've acknowledged the TO's multiple times now

Originally posted by Sanfran_chrisco:

Originally posted by YACBros85:

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Originally posted by YoungQBCompetition:

Originally posted by YACBros85:
Yes. Just like I watch every game every week. Watch multiple film breakdowns throughout the week as well. Do you watch the games? The offense has turned the ball over multiple times and has failed to score on more than 3 possessions in each of the last 2 games. I also saw a defense that gave up a whole lot of yards but not many points all things considering. You act like Kirk threw 4 TD's against our defense, gave up 35 points and we got blown out.

What you don't get is that the 49ers barely had the ball because the defense couldn't get off the field. There were barely any possessions in this game.

The 49ers have punted just 22 times so far this year (would be among the lowest punt totals in NFL history), and have barely turned it over. Yet they aren't scoring many points because the defense is garbage.

Wrong. Both the 49ers and vikings had 9 possessions each. Both 49ers and CLE each had 13 possessions in their game.

The 49ers offense has turned the ball over 4 times in the last 2 games and have averaged 17 points per game in that span. Teams are only 4-14 when their offense only puts up 17 points in a game this season.

pretty sure he's referring to total time. equal amount of total possessions, yes

So if they both had the same amount of possessions but the TOP is lopsided, it means that one offense was able to move the ball more affectively than the other.

exactly. the Vikings offense was able to move the ball more effectively and our defense couldn't get off the field. this has been a recurring problem defensively.

I could also easily say that our offense wasn't able to move the ball as affectively and failed to score on 6 of its 9 possessions. This has been a recurring problem offensively.

except they were able to move the ball effectively. especially compared to the last game. Purdy had a 70% completion %. just can't have 3 turnovers.

Are the TO's not included in you evaluation of the offense? Yes. Lets dismiss 3 TO's including 1 in the redzone after the defense gift wrapped the offense excellent starting field position after a TO of their own.

we were evaluating efficiency in regards to moving the ball here in this quote chain and TOP. of which was a night and day difference compared to last week with our offense.

Yea. You obviously don't know what you are talking about when it comes TOP. TOP is a 2 way street. If the offense was more efficient, they would have had just as many minutes with the ball as the other team since both teams possessed the ball the same amount of times. Points per drive is an efficiency stat as well and the offense has failed miserably at it the past 2 weeks.

no, the offense was more efficient compared to their performance the week before. I'm comparing CLE game vs. Vikings. that is unquestionable based on multiple metrics.

as for TOP, just because OUR offense didn't "have as many" minutes as the other offense, doesn't mean they were more inefficient. that literally just means the Vikings ate up all the possession time and that falls more on our defense.

the offense can be more efficient in ways other than time of possession. like, 3rd down efficiency in quarterback completion percentage. etc

You call 3 TO's and 17 points in 9 drives efficient?

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by Sanfran_chrisco:

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Originally posted by YoungQBCompetition:

Originally posted by YACBros85:
Yes. Just like I watch every game every week. Watch multiple film breakdowns throughout the week as well. Do you watch the games? The offense has turned the ball over multiple times and has failed to score on more than 3 possessions in each of the last 2 games. I also saw a defense that gave up a whole lot of yards but not many points all things considering. You act like Kirk threw 4 TD's against our defense, gave up 35 points and we got blown out.

What you don't get is that the 49ers barely had the ball because the defense couldn't get off the field. There were barely any possessions in this game.

The 49ers have punted just 22 times so far this year (would be among the lowest punt totals in NFL history), and have barely turned it over. Yet they aren't scoring many points because the defense is garbage.

Wrong. Both the 49ers and vikings had 9 possessions each. Both 49ers and CLE each had 13 possessions in their game.

The 49ers offense has turned the ball over 4 times in the last 2 games and have averaged 17 points per game in that span. Teams are only 4-14 when their offense only puts up 17 points in a game this season.

pretty sure he's referring to total time. equal amount of total possessions, yes

So if they both had the same amount of possessions but the TOP is lopsided, it means that one offense was able to move the ball more affectively than the other.

exactly. the Vikings offense was able to move the ball more effectively and our defense couldn't get off the field. this has been a recurring problem defensively.

I could also easily say that our offense wasn't able to move the ball as affectively and failed to score on 6 of its 9 possessions. This has been a recurring problem offensively.

except they were able to move the ball effectively. especially compared to the last game. Purdy had a 70% completion %. just can't have 3 turnovers.

Are the TO's not included in you evaluation of the offense? Yes. Lets dismiss 3 TO's including 1 in the redzone after the defense gift wrapped the offense excellent starting field position after a TO of their own.

we were evaluating efficiency in regards to moving the ball here in this quote chain and TOP. of which was a night and day difference compared to last week with our offense.

Yea. You obviously don't know what you are talking about when it comes TOP. TOP is a 2 way street. If the offense was more efficient, they would have had just as many minutes with the ball as the other team since both teams possessed the ball the same amount of times. Points per drive is an efficiency stat as well and the offense has failed miserably at it the past 2 weeks.

no, the offense was more efficient compared to their performance the week before. I'm comparing CLE game vs. Vikings. that is unquestionable based on multiple metrics.

as for TOP, just because OUR offense didn't "have as many" minutes as the other offense, doesn't mean they were more inefficient. that literally just means the Vikings ate up all the possession time and that falls more on our defense.

the offense can be more efficient in ways other than time of possession. like, 3rd down efficiency in quarterback completion percentage. etc

You call 3 TO's and 17 points in 9 drives efficient?

strawman time? GG.

What a save!

Originally posted by RickyRoma:
Elway is an all time great QB. The guy carried his offense for a big chunk of time when his lead back was Sammy Winder and average and worse receivers like Mark Jackson and Ricky Nattiel. The offensive system was fairly garbage....a lot of times it basically came down to Elway pulling out wins. I never liked him for the way he 'forced' himself to Denver, but his talent is undeniable.

You realize a lot of the time the system Elway had was Mike Shanahan's system, right? Before he ever got to San Francisco he was the OC of Denver. Then after three years he coached the Raiders, came back to Denver for a year, then went to SF for three years before returning to be with Elway again for three more years. Not trying to take anything away from Elway, but for seven of his years he had a brilliant play-caller and designer—which, by the way, included six of his nine Pro Bowl seasons

Originally posted by Waterbear:

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:

Originally posted by Furlow:
QB's with a better passer rating who played at the same time or earlier than Elway:

Dan Fouts
Steve Beurlein
Fran Tarkenton (lol)
Ken O'Brien
Bart Starr
Jeff Hostetler
Warren Moon
Boomer Esiason
Dave Kreig
Randall Cunningham
Troy Aikman
Danny White
Neil O'Donnell
Bernie Kosar
Ken Anderson
Sonny Jurgenson
Len Dawson
Neil Lomax
Roger Staubach
Jim Kelly
Rich Gannon
Dan Marino
Otto Graham
Joe Montana
Steve Young

The Jimmy G trap all over again. We struggle to learn, lol.

To be fair, Furlow was the only poster I saw that admitted he bought into Jimmy being the reason for our success to much, after what we saw from Purdy.

Got to give credit where credit is due.