QB Brock Purdy Thread

Originally posted by SlipAndSlideBosa:

Originally posted by Crown:

Originally posted by SlipAndSlideBosa:
I'm always confused by the term, "System QB". Isn't every QB a System QB?

I guess if the QB gets the play call from the Coach, and the QB says "F That, I'm running my own play", then I guess they are no longer a System QB.

I have never understood it either.

My theory is they mean that once the play or system breaks down does the QB improvise and make plays that technically arent there.

To which we have seen BP do many times. So why then is he a "system QB"?

I guess a QB that goes through his reads and if nothing is there he takes a sack or throws it away would be considered working within the system. They don't try to make something happen off schedule. That is not something that describes Brock.

It just means the system is a force multiplier to the QB vs the QB being a force multiplier to the system

Originally posted by babarvaart:
I understand system QB to be someone who can just play this type of offence, so Purdy is West Coast guy.

It's used as negative but who gives a s**t if Purdy will never be an Air Coryell QB .

Gonna have to disagree. First of all, the quick slant is not the defining route of this scheme. The deep in is—which, incidentally, was the same defining route of the GSOT. Second, Brock chooses the intermediate pass over the open short pass almost every single time. He is not a dink and dunker.

I'd say Purdy can fit any system, and given that our offense has as much in common with the Coryell route depths as WCO concepts (if anything, Kyle's offense is a hybrid of all offenses used in professional football), because of our constant deep ins, deep outs and deep overs, I would absolutely not characterize Brock as a "West Coast" guy. And as Kyle has pointed out, "it's not the f-ing West Coast Offense," and I'd say the most WCO thing about his scheme is that lots of the verbiage remains. But I'm sorry, Kyle's offense has never been the WCO. It's a hybrid. He took some bits from Gruden's version of the WCO, added some Martz stuff, took the zone-run, PA, and spread formations out of 21 personnel that his dad used, and combined into a genius system that only lacks one thing from time to time: useful hot routes in the drop back game. But that's not all the time, and it's clear the overall product is superior to anything in the NFL right now. Including the Cowboys offense, which is a lot closer to the true WCO than ours is.

Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:
You are finally free and clear of your addiction. Welcome, my friend... to FREEDOM and PEACE.

Glad I never got addicted to Jimmy..but I may be a member of Brockoholics Anonymous

Originally posted by Shorteous:

Originally posted by SlipAndSlideBosa:

Originally posted by Crown:

Originally posted by SlipAndSlideBosa:
I'm always confused by the term, "System QB". Isn't every QB a System QB?

I guess if the QB gets the play call from the Coach, and the QB says "F That, I'm running my own play", then I guess they are no longer a System QB.

I have never understood it either.

My theory is they mean that once the play or system breaks down does the QB improvise and make plays that technically arent there.

To which we have seen BP do many times. So why then is he a "system QB"?

I guess a QB that goes through his reads and if nothing is there he takes a sack or throws it away would be considered working within the system. They don't try to make something happen off schedule. That is not something that describes Brock.

It just means the system is a force multiplier to the QB vs the QB being a force multiplier to the system

Well at this point critics have two options:

Either Purdy is a force multiplier to the system, or all the QBs Shanahan has had since Matt Ryan are a net negative addition, including Jimmy. As I don't think Jimmy sucks, I think it's the former: Brock makes the system better. Or, perhaps I should say, Brock makes the system complete.

Originally posted by Montana:

Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:
You are finally free and clear of your addiction. Welcome, my friend... to FREEDOM and PEACE.

Glad I never got addicted to Jimmy..but I may be a member of Brockoholics Anonymous

Boy that rolls off the tongue. Just like a Brock spiral.

Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:
Well at this point critics have two options:

Either Purdy is a force multiplier to the system, or all the QBs Shanahan has had since Matt Ryan are a net negative addition, including Jimmy. As I don't think Jimmy sucks, I think it's the former: Brock makes the system better. Or, perhaps I should say, Brock makes the system complete.

Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:
Boy that rolls off the tongue. Just like a Brock spiral.

Step 1..Came to believe that a power greater than ourselves could restore us to sanity..

Isn't that The Force though?

Maybe I need a meeting lolol

Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:

Originally posted by babarvaart:
I understand system QB to be someone who can just play this type of offence, so Purdy is West Coast guy.

It's used as negative but who gives a s**t if Purdy will never be an Air Coryell QB .

Gonna have to disagree. First of all, the quick slant is not the defining route of this scheme. The deep in is—which, incidentally, was the same defining route of the GSOT. Second, Brock chooses the intermediate pass over the open short pass almost every single time. He is not a dink and dunker.

I'd say Purdy can fit any system, and given that our offense has as much in common with the Coryell route depths as WCO concepts (if anything, Kyle's offense is a hybrid of all offenses used in professional football), because of our constant deep ins, deep outs and deep overs, I would absolutely not characterize Brock as a "West Coast" guy. And as Kyle has pointed out, "it's not the f-ing West Coast Offense," and I'd say the most WCO thing about his scheme is that lots of the verbiage remains. But I'm sorry, Kyle's offense has never been the WCO. It's a hybrid. He took some bits from Gruden's version of the WCO, added some Martz stuff, took the zone-run, PA, and spread formations out of 21 personnel that his dad used, and combined into a genius system that only lacks one thing from time to time: useful hot routes in the drop back game. But that's not all the time, and it's clear the overall product is superior to anything in the NFL right now. Including the Cowboys offense, which is a lot closer to the true WCO than ours is.

Kyle even borrows plays weekly from other teams.

Originally posted by Montana:

Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:
Well at this point critics have two options:

Either Purdy is a force multiplier to the system, or all the QBs Shanahan has had since Matt Ryan are a net negative addition, including Jimmy. As I don't think Jimmy sucks, I think it's the former: Brock makes the system better. Or, perhaps I should say, Brock makes the system complete.

That's spot on.

Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:

Originally posted by Shorteous:

Originally posted by SlipAndSlideBosa:

Originally posted by Crown:

Originally posted by SlipAndSlideBosa:
I'm always confused by the term, "System QB". Isn't every QB a System QB?

I guess if the QB gets the play call from the Coach, and the QB says "F That, I'm running my own play", then I guess they are no longer a System QB.

I have never understood it either.

My theory is they mean that once the play or system breaks down does the QB improvise and make plays that technically arent there.

To which we have seen BP do many times. So why then is he a "system QB"?

I guess a QB that goes through his reads and if nothing is there he takes a sack or throws it away would be considered working within the system. They don't try to make something happen off schedule. That is not something that describes Brock.

It just means the system is a force multiplier to the QB vs the QB being a force multiplier to the system

Well at this point critics have two options:

Either Purdy is a force multiplier to the system, or all the QBs Shanahan has had since Matt Ryan are a net negative addition, including Jimmy. As I don't think Jimmy sucks, I think it's the former: Brock makes the system better. Or, perhaps I should say, Brock makes the system complete.

Ya I agree, his ability to quickly read the field is his super power and one of the most important traits for a QB IMO

So is Montana a system guy because he played in the West Coast Offense? He couldn't play otherwise? Product of the system?

Originally posted by BOI49er:

Originally posted by Crown:

Originally posted by SlipAndSlideBosa:
I'm always confused by the term, "System QB". Isn't every QB a System QB?

I guess if the QB gets the play call from the Coach, and the QB says "F That, I'm running my own play", then I guess they are no longer a System QB.

I have never understood it either.

My theory is they mean that once the play or system breaks down does the QB improvise and make plays that technically arent there.

To which we have seen BP do many times. So why then is he a "system QB"?

What they mean is they couldn't play well in any other system. It's BS when it comes to Brock. Headwork works everywhere.

The thing is, Brock is playing in an offensive system that is perhaps the most prevalent in the NFL.

Originally posted by BOI49er:

Originally posted by Crown:

Originally posted by SlipAndSlideBosa:
I'm always confused by the term, "System QB". Isn't every QB a System QB?

I guess if the QB gets the play call from the Coach, and the QB says "F That, I'm running my own play", then I guess they are no longer a System QB.

I have never understood it either.

My theory is they mean that once the play or system breaks down does the QB improvise and make plays that technically arent there.

To which we have seen BP do many times. So why then is he a "system QB"?

What they mean is they couldn't play well in any other system. It's BS when it comes to Brock. Headwork works everywhere.

"Headwork" is certainly great to have in most places.

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by qnnhan7:

Since Brock Purdy has taken the helm, the 49ers have won games:

33-17
35-7
21-13
37-20
37-34
38-13
41-23
19-12
30-7
30-23
30-12
35-16
42-10

We're not just winning. We're kicking teams asses.

— Juice TD Tracker (1) (@JuszczykFan) October 13, 2023

Kyle and Brock road show wrecking the NFL

Patrick Mahomes could only dream of this.

No.. this is what it feels like to be a chiefs fan. Lol

Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:
Gonna have to disagree. First of all, the quick slant is not the defining route of this scheme. The deep in is—which, incidentally, was the same defining route of the GSOT. Second, Brock chooses the intermediate pass over the open short pass almost every single time. He is not a dink and dunker.

I'd say Purdy can fit any system, and given that our offense has as much in common with the Coryell route depths as WCO concepts (if anything, Kyle's offense is a hybrid of all offenses used in professional football), because of our constant deep ins, deep outs and deep overs, I would absolutely not characterize Brock as a "West Coast" guy. And as Kyle has pointed out, "it's not the f-ing West Coast Offense," and I'd say the most WCO thing about his scheme is that lots of the verbiage remains. But I'm sorry, Kyle's offense has never been the WCO. It's a hybrid. He took some bits from Gruden's version of the WCO, added some Martz stuff, took the zone-run, PA, and spread formations out of 21 personnel that his dad used, and combined into a genius system that only lacks one thing from time to time: useful hot routes in the drop back game. But that's not all the time, and it's clear the overall product is superior to anything in the NFL right now. Including the Cowboys offense, which is a lot closer to the true WCO than ours is

This is the evolution of the WCO though right, a balanced O spreading the ball around the skill positions, I've only watched since the 90s but it wasn't all dink n dunk then either. Purdy will never have the strongest arm but that doesn't matter.