QB Brock Purdy Thread

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:

Originally posted by Ruixx:
I don't understand why it's only Brock Purdy that having weapons and a good coach is somehow a dig and takes away from his accomplishments. All the anti-Purdy media just skates over that. Because you know, Tua and Mahomes do it all themselves completely with no receivers, tight ends, offensive lines, and coaches.

Everyone on Tua's team runs a 4.2. He has the Olympic track team out there. That doesn't help him somehow? Yes it does obviously. Mahomes has outstanding talent for all his career and a great coach. Very fast guys at WR, RB and an all time TE. It's not like he has nothing around him. Give me a break. All good QB's have good stuff around them. That's sports. Welcome to life.

Shannon Sharpe mentioning Tua is hilarious. He's in the same exact system with (arguably) better receivers.

Originally posted by All22:

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:

Originally posted by Ruixx:
I don't understand why it's only Brock Purdy that having weapons and a good coach is somehow a dig and takes away from his accomplishments. All the anti-Purdy media just skates over that. Because you know, Tua and Mahomes do it all themselves completely with no receivers, tight ends, offensive lines, and coaches.

Everyone on Tua's team runs a 4.2. He has the Olympic track team out there. That doesn't help him somehow? Yes it does obviously. Mahomes has outstanding talent for all his career and a great coach. Very fast guys at WR, RB and an all time TE. It's not like he has nothing around him. Give me a break. All good QB's have good stuff around them. That's sports. Welcome to life.

Shannon Sharpe mentioning Tua is hilarious. He's in the same exact system with (arguably) better receivers.

Tua's played some good ball overall. Why do we have to downgrade one guy to hoist another? That's always been so corny to me.

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:

Originally posted by Wubbie:
I think a lot of the discourse is all over the place because everyone has broad definitions of what makes someone an elite QB. That's a whole discussion in it of itself.

But I want to say that Brock does have one elite trait that makes him perhaps the best QB in the league for our system--- his Anticipation. People aren't recognizing it, but if you look at the film, it's why he and the offense are flourishing. Brock's able to get the ball to the receivers perfectly on time. Defenders aren't able to react to it fast enough, and our receivers can make big plays because of it.

From the shoulder pads up is what makes Brock elite. Between the ears. Everything he does there. Fans don't always see that or understand. But I think a lot of coaches, players and ex players do. Processing pre and post snap. Going through reads and progressions at lightning speed. Elite anticipation and timing. Making the right decision. Getting the ball out quick. Having great mechanics and throwing an accurate ball that can easily be caught usually in stride.

I think the media 'analysts' that aren't impressed with what Brock is doing are watching the throw itself and not what it takes to make that throw. Meaning, they see a 15 yard throw over the middle and think, "anyone can make that throw, it's not hard". What they don't recognize is the mental work that has to take place to pull the trigger on that throw. They are looking at his throws in a vacuum.

They seem more impressed when a QB misses the window to throw on rhythm, which then forces the QB to escape the rush, throw on the run from an unorthodox arm slot, and think, "wow that was so elite!". Meanwhile, had Brock executed that same playcall, the throw is out on time once he completes his dropback. It looks easy because Brock makes it look easy, not because it is easy. You'd think that after recently watching JFields/ZWilson struggle to read defenses that they would understand that Brock does not struggle to read defenses.

This needs to be posted on Twitter.

Originally posted by All22:

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:

Originally posted by Ruixx:
I don't understand why it's only Brock Purdy that having weapons and a good coach is somehow a dig and takes away from his accomplishments. All the anti-Purdy media just skates over that. Because you know, Tua and Mahomes do it all themselves completely with no receivers, tight ends, offensive lines, and coaches.

Everyone on Tua's team runs a 4.2. He has the Olympic track team out there. That doesn't help him somehow? Yes it does obviously. Mahomes has outstanding talent for all his career and a great coach. Very fast guys at WR, RB and an all time TE. It's not like he has nothing around him. Give me a break. All good QB's have good stuff around them. That's sports. Welcome to life.

Shannon Sharpe mentioning Tua is hilarious. He's in the same exact system with (arguably) better receivers.

Not only is he in the same system, before McDaniel got there people were starting to talk about him being a bust. So they say Purdy wouldn't be as good in any other system, but Tua is PROVEN to be worse in other systems. I really think it's because of Purdy's size and arm strength, but whatever. I'd just as well let Purdy keep that chip on his shoulder.

Who cares- we will invite Sharpe to the victory parade when hoisting the trophy.

Sharpe gets paid to get clicks. That is a click. Just like all of em..

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by Memphis9er:

Originally posted by hondakillerzx:
Shannon Sharpe had too many hits to the head if he can't see that Brock is elite. if it was all Shanahan every loser before Brock would've been top tier too and they weren't

That's strange, he's been heavy on the praise for weeks. Must need clicks. Also, someone on the team mentioned that Purdy's arm is still only about %90 and will get better as he heals up fully.

Who said his arm isn't 100%

Don't remember, it might have been someone from the team on the local sports talk station, but they were quoting Purdy. I'll try and find it on my YouTube history, I think it was on 95.7 YouTube channel.

Sharp's take was pretty bad. What if you took away the 4 fastest people in the NFL from the dolphins? Kelce from the Chiefs? etc. Those QBs already showed they go back to the norm not the elite.

But I get it, Sharp loves the Shanahans and that is his way to show how good Kyle is even though it ignores the obvious of Hurts without AJ and Smith, Tua without Hill, Waddle, Mostert or A-chan. It's ignores the facts that all elite QBs typically have safety blankets they can throw to anytime to make a play.

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:

Originally posted by Ruixx:
I don't understand why it's only Brock Purdy that having weapons and a good coach is somehow a dig and takes away from his accomplishments. All the anti-Purdy media just skates over that. Because you know, Tua and Mahomes do it all themselves completely with no receivers, tight ends, offensive lines, and coaches.

Everyone on Tua's team runs a 4.2. He has the Olympic track team out there. That doesn't help him somehow? Yes it does obviously. Mahomes has outstanding talent for all his career and a great coach. Very fast guys at WR, RB and an all time TE. It's not like he has nothing around him. Give me a break. All good QB's have good stuff around them. That's sports. Welcome to life.

Look at Hurts last season. He was the Leading MVP candidate the whole season until missing some games at the end. He had an absolutely stacked roster arguably the best in all of football last year. Mahomes early in his career took over for a stacked championship roster. It has never been an issue when other QBS played great on stacked rosters but with the Niners and Purdy it is.

Nobody goes at Shannon Sharpe when he makes ignorant comments like that. He just called Brock Purdy a system QB which is fine, if he didn't on the other mentioned Tua Tagovailoa as being elite like Mahomes who btw is looking less super human with the latest case of pass catchers he has around him. He's being somewhat carried by his defense for the first time in his career this season. Tua has a better case of playmakers than the 49ers and yet thick skulled Shannon Sharpe says Purdy isn't elite because of the weapons he has. Just wow!!

Originally posted by Bloodless:

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:

Originally posted by Ruixx:
I don't understand why it's only Brock Purdy that having weapons and a good coach is somehow a dig and takes away from his accomplishments. All the anti-Purdy media just skates over that. Because you know, Tua and Mahomes do it all themselves completely with no receivers, tight ends, offensive lines, and coaches.

Everyone on Tua's team runs a 4.2. He has the Olympic track team out there. That doesn't help him somehow? Yes it does obviously. Mahomes has outstanding talent for all his career and a great coach. Very fast guys at WR, RB and an all time TE. It's not like he has nothing around him. Give me a break. All good QB's have good stuff around them. That's sports. Welcome to life.

Look at Hurts last season. He was the Leading MVP candidate the whole season until missing some games at the end. He had an absolutely stacked roster arguably the best in all of football last year. Mahomes early in his career took over for a stacked championship roster. It has never been an issue when other QBS played great on stacked rosters but with the Niners and Purdy it is.

Yes I agree. He's held to a different standard.

I have to say that it is kind of nice to have, "A QB thread", rather than competing threads where people argue endlessly over why "their guy" is better than the other guy. At least in this thread most of the posters are saving their ire for TV talking heads and not each other. Hopefully Brock continues on his current trajectory and becomes a player everyone can rally around for the next decade or so. Go Niners!

Shannon Sharpe is yet another prime example of just because you were a great player doesn't mean you'd be a very good commentator or analyst

the fact that theyre arguing whether or not he's elite should already tell you how good purdy is lol

Originally posted by 9erson3:
Who cares- we will invite Sharpe to the victory parade when hoisting the trophy.

Sharpe gets paid to get clicks. That is a click. Just like all of em..

I get what he's doing, downplaying Brock Purdy to calm the hype down.

I got you Sharpe, I'm reading the play!!!

Originally posted by RiceOwensStokes:
Shannon Sharpe is yet another prime example of just because you were a great player doesn't mean you'd be a very good commentator or analyst

I really like Shannon Sharpe and his analysis, and people getting upset about something like this doesn't change anything. If you watched the entire piece, RC said Purdy is elite and Canty said he isn't yet, but if he continues this play for a longer time he will be, and that was more where Sharpe was leaning at the end of the conversation. Additionally, people don't seem to understand that these people are literally paid to disagree with each other.