Originally posted by thl408:
Everyone loves an underdog story. Plus, the 49ers have star power on the roster.
Its about time some of the NFL's narrative building favored the 49ers, they've been on the wrong end of it too many times in recent memory.
There are 256 users in the forums
Originally posted by thl408:
Everyone loves an underdog story. Plus, the 49ers have star power on the roster.
Originally posted by thl408:Why NC always trying to push narratives lol
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by 9ers4eva:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Hard to say. Most deeper shots you'd need <2.5+ to 3+ just for the receiver to execute. Blown coverage, no press, etc. you can hit it any time. Clearing routes to shot, press, double moves, deep posts, etc. Those by nature will take longer.
20 yard "deep" shot? 40-50 yards?
We've never had consistent longer unit PP or a receiver who can consistently win deep.
Kyle's always had to set up a good 2 shots a game if that. He's already noted his philosophy on this and I haven't seen any difference so far.
CMC was an off schedule just like Jimmy's was and the other "deep" shot was 100% design and premeditated.
When I start seeing those deep 9's and posts on a regular basis (not set up per se) in the weekly game plans, I'll start to believe Kyle is changing his philosophy and it'll be because of Brock's ability there.
There are plenty of deep routes that get open even when they aren't designated shots. That's the stuff Purdy will take advantage of more than Jimmy
Looking forward to seeing that!
So we can expect, what, 5-6 deeper shots a game by Brock now from your perspective?
I'd settle for 1.
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Adam Schefter on the ESPN fantasy pod today, said about 4 times that he thinks SF has found their guy. He was very very adamant about that.
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by thl408:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by 9ers4eva:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Hard to say. Most deeper shots you'd need <2.5+ to 3+ just for the receiver to execute. Blown coverage, no press, etc. you can hit it any time. Clearing routes to shot, press, double moves, deep posts, etc. Those by nature will take longer.
20 yard "deep" shot? 40-50 yards?
We've never had consistent longer unit PP or a receiver who can consistently win deep.
Kyle's always had to set up a good 2 shots a game if that. He's already noted his philosophy on this and I haven't seen any difference so far.
CMC was an off schedule just like Jimmy's was and the other "deep" shot was 100% design and premeditated.
When I start seeing those deep 9's and posts on a regular basis (not set up per se) in the weekly game plans, I'll start to believe Kyle is changing his philosophy and it'll be because of Brock's ability there.
There are plenty of deep routes that get open even when they aren't designated shots. That's the stuff Purdy will take advantage of more than Jimmy
Looking forward to seeing that!
So we can expect, what, 5-6 deeper shots a game by Brock now from your perspective?
I'd settle for 1.
Samesies.
Originally posted by YACBros85:
What exactly made CMC's off schedule? Those two deep shots Purdy took had an average TTT of 2.85 seconds.
I have seen Kyle run those wheel routes out of the backfield often. I am willing to bet they take a lot more time to develop than a 9 or deep post route.
Originally posted by riverrunzthruit:
The 2 TDs were more intermediate shots, wouldn't consider those deep balls... mirror plays, D came with C0 and the outside receiver runs a variation of post go... BCB took the challenge and delivered the ball and took a hit after
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by YACBros85:
What exactly made CMC's off schedule? Those two deep shots Purdy took had an average TTT of 2.85 seconds.
I have seen Kyle run those wheel routes out of the backfield often. I am willing to bet they take a lot more time to develop than a 9 or deep post route.
I misspoke. I'm just going off my poor memory here but on one of those didn't he pump fake and/or slide to create just enough time for the receiver to get open, even getting blasted to where he couldn't get his full tork into the throw and threw short of Aiyuk to where he had to stop his route to catch it? That's not off schedule like I was thinking of the JG TD to CMC what's he stepped up, through and out of pressure as his 5th read for the "deep" TD in the EZ. That was more of creating his own time/PP to execute the timing.
I'm just not ready to crown him (yet) as a really good deep ball thrower enough to where it unlocks Kyle's deep plays or dictates them as primaries.
But I want to believe...
Originally posted by BoldRedandGold:
Originally posted by riverrunzthruit:
The 2 TDs were more intermediate shots, wouldn't consider those deep balls... mirror plays, D came with C0 and the outside receiver runs a variation of post go... BCB took the challenge and delivered the ball and took a hit after
I don't think we will see too much deeper than those for a few games.
Defensive coordinators are going to keep blitzing at a high rate probably at least for this game and next.
If he goes 3-4 games and consistently beats the blitz they will back off. Then we might see some longer plays.
It will be tough if he's being blitzed 80% of the time.
Originally posted by YACBros85:
Originally posted by BoldRedandGold:
Originally posted by riverrunzthruit:
The 2 TDs were more intermediate shots, wouldn't consider those deep balls... mirror plays, D came with C0 and the outside receiver runs a variation of post go... BCB took the challenge and delivered the ball and took a hit after
I don't think we will see too much deeper than those for a few games.
Defensive coordinators are going to keep blitzing at a high rate probably at least for this game and next.
If he goes 3-4 games and consistently beats the blitz they will back off. Then we might see some longer plays.
It will be tough if he's being blitzed 80% of the time.
Seattle is currently bottom of the league in blitzing at like 16.0%. MIA and TB were two of the highest blitzing defenses at around 30.0%. If Purdy has shown anything these last two games is that the blitz does not rattle him and he will make defenses pay when they do blitz. With all that said, I see Seattle showing blitz with 5 or 6 on the LOS to discourage us from running the ball and then drop 7 or 8 into coverage after the snap in order to try and confuse him.
Originally posted by Fanaticofnfl:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Adam Schefter on the ESPN fantasy pod today, said about 4 times that he thinks SF has found their guy. He was very very adamant about that.
Got a link?
Schefter is one of the first to break objective news, but his speculation skills are average at best. Dude had us locked in to draft Mac Jones lol
Originally posted by SlipAndSlideBosa:
Originally posted by YACBros85:
Originally posted by BoldRedandGold:
Originally posted by riverrunzthruit:
The 2 TDs were more intermediate shots, wouldn't consider those deep balls... mirror plays, D came with C0 and the outside receiver runs a variation of post go... BCB took the challenge and delivered the ball and took a hit after
I don't think we will see too much deeper than those for a few games.
Defensive coordinators are going to keep blitzing at a high rate probably at least for this game and next.
If he goes 3-4 games and consistently beats the blitz they will back off. Then we might see some longer plays.
It will be tough if he's being blitzed 80% of the time.
Seattle is currently bottom of the league in blitzing at like 16.0%. MIA and TB were two of the highest blitzing defenses at around 30.0%. If Purdy has shown anything these last two games is that the blitz does not rattle him and he will make defenses pay when they do blitz. With all that said, I see Seattle showing blitz with 5 or 6 on the LOS to discourage us from running the ball and then drop 7 or 8 into coverage after the snap in order to try and confuse him.
Yeah that seems like a good strategy. Hopefully he handles it well. Just means he will have more time in the pocket to decide.
Originally posted by mattster03:
Mac was probably Shanny's guy
Originally posted by thl408:
That sounds like an opinion. Did he say, "My 49er inside sources said...."?