QB Brock Purdy Thread

Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:

Originally posted by JoseCortez:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by JoseCortez:
Exactly this. I wasn't criticizing Shanahan. I was just saying what I think Shanahan shouldn't be doing.

I have seen a light turn on in shanny with purdy that I haven't seen with Jimmy or Lance or any other qb.

The play-calling hasn't been different. The way the QB is executing those plays and how they've played when pressured imo has been different. Brock is moving/feeling pressure much better than Jimmy, which is creating positive outcomes.

I can't agree with this. Even shanahan's sideline demeanor has changed. I mentioned this in the preseason. Shanahan looks more excited when Purdy is in and was also much more aggressive in both playcalling as well as in game situations. Just look at that td drive before half against the bucs. If that was Jimmy or Lance, Shanahan calls it with shriveled nuts. It's a completely different Shanahan with Purdy in.

Shanahan almost always attacks all three levels with his play calls, and as he recently mentioned, he is NOT telling the QBs where to throw the ball every play.

Also, Lance was throwing deeper too, so no, he's not having "shriveled nuts" with Lance. He was just running with the QB a lot. But the PASSING plays still went downfield. Hence why Lance had the highest air yards of any QB in three years.

There's nothing different with the play calls. It's the QB Seeing the field better

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by Furlow:
Add in a 98 year old grandma who can't walk and yeah my wife and I don't go ANYWHERE.

That's rough man

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Defense has some clues on what to expect tonight. No Deebo. We should find out alot.

Originally posted by random49er:
Defense has some clues on what to expect tonight. No Deebo. We should find out alot.

Going to be a tough outing.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:

Originally posted by JoseCortez:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by JoseCortez:
Exactly this. I wasn't criticizing Shanahan. I was just saying what I think Shanahan shouldn't be doing.

I have seen a light turn on in shanny with purdy that I haven't seen with Jimmy or Lance or any other qb.

The play-calling hasn't been different. The way the QB is executing those plays and how they've played when pressured imo has been different. Brock is moving/feeling pressure much better than Jimmy, which is creating positive outcomes.

I can't agree with this. Even shanahan's sideline demeanor has changed. I mentioned this in the preseason. Shanahan looks more excited when Purdy is in and was also much more aggressive in both playcalling as well as in game situations. Just look at that td drive before half against the bucs. If that was Jimmy or Lance, Shanahan calls it with shriveled nuts. It's a completely different Shanahan with Purdy in.

Shanahan almost always attacks all three levels with his play calls, and as he recently mentioned, he is NOT telling the QBs where to throw the ball every play.

Also, Lance was throwing deeper too, so no, he's not having "shriveled nuts" with Lance. He was just running with the QB a lot. But the PASSING plays still went downfield. Hence why Lance had the highest air yards of any QB in three years.

There's nothing different with the play calls. It's the QB Seeing the field better

I don't agree that a "light went on" inside Shanahan since Purdy's been in. I believe the best man always plays. Look at when Carroll decided to play Wilson instead of that other guy (Matt Flynn?). I think once Purdy showed his "in-game" skills Shanahan was like oh snap he's a playmaker. But if Kyle knew what he had in Purdy all along, he would have benched Jimmy G and made the move. I don't think Kyle would put himself through personal hell just to watch Jimmy G play every week knowing he had a gamer in Purdy.

And Kyle more than anybody understands how this league operates. He needs to stay ahead of the 8-ball with Purdy. One of these weeks someone will shutdown Purdy and the screen game.

I foresee two different outcomes. Either Purdy is the real-deal and continues his success. He takes some lumps, but always learns from them and we keep winning. Or Purdy is so fresh and new it will take teams 4-5 weeks to understand him. Hopefully that really bad, down-game, doesn't happen in the playoffs. If it does than Jimmy will be ready. Kyle knows Jimmy is a constant. A boring, but efficient constant. With Purdy he needs to ride the wave and rack up as many W's as possible. Then re-evaluate the QB position and either put Jimmy back in, or keep rocking with Purdy. Tonight will show us a lot.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:

Originally posted by JoseCortez:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by JoseCortez:

Exactly this. I wasn't criticizing Shanahan. I was just saying what I think Shanahan shouldn't be doing.

I have seen a light turn on in shanny with purdy that I haven't seen with Jimmy or Lance or any other qb.

The play-calling hasn't been different. The way the QB is executing those plays and how they've played when pressured imo has been different. Brock is moving/feeling pressure much better than Jimmy, which is creating positive outcomes.

I can't agree with this. Even shanahan's sideline demeanor has changed. I mentioned this in the preseason. Shanahan looks more excited when Purdy is in and was also much more aggressive in both playcalling as well as in game situations. Just look at that td drive before half against the bucs. If that was Jimmy or Lance, Shanahan calls it with shriveled nuts. It's a completely different Shanahan with Purdy in.

Shanahan almost always attacks all three levels with his play calls, and as he recently mentioned, he is NOT telling the QBs where to throw the ball every play.

Also, Lance was throwing deeper too, so no, he's not having "shriveled nuts" with Lance. He was just running with the QB a lot. But the PASSING plays still went downfield. Hence why Lance had the highest air yards of any QB in three years.

There's nothing different with the play calls. It's the QB Seeing the field better

I don't understand why this is so hard to grasp. How many weeks of film footage where Jimmy opted not to take the wide open deep shot do folks need to see? Jimmy was playing super well, not to take anything away from his overall body of work. He just didn't make the same decisions that we saw Purdy and Lance make on the deep options available.

It's not based on feels or emotions, it's hard facts from the film. The same guys have been open each week downfield, the only difference is who the QB chose to throw it to.

Originally posted by Since07:
Not sure if this is true but heard Garoppolo has thrown two deep touchdown passes the past 3 years, Purdy threw two in 1 quarter

Tbf, he was Injured during most of that time. but yeah, It's fair to say that Jimmy can't or won't throw deep and that's part of the reason this offense looks more exciting to watch right now because Brock isn't afraid to let It rip.

I hope Purdy drops a Purdy big pile of "you know what" mid field! Just so they know how we really feel about them

Originally posted by OnTheClock:
I don't understand why this is so hard to grasp. How many weeks of film footage where Jimmy opted not to take the wide open deep shot do folks need to see? Jimmy was playing super well, not to take anything away from his overall body of work. He just didn't make the same decisions that we saw Purdy and Lance make on the deep options available.

It's not based on feels or emotions, it's hard facts from the film. The same guys have been open each week downfield, the only difference is who the QB chose to throw it to.

I agree. Idk why others can't see this. Kyles plays usually have an option on all three levels of the defense, Jimmy just. Doesn't typically go for the passes that are more than 15-20 yards.

as you said - nothing against him, I really like him and think he deserves to be starting in this league, Purdy is simply more aggressive than jimmy and seems to trust his ability to complete those deeper chunk plays.

https://www.cnn.com/2022/12/15/sport/brock-purdy-san-francisco-49ers-nfl-spt-intl/index.html

Originally posted by tankle104:
I agree. Idk why others can't see this. Kyles plays usually have an option on all three levels of the defense, Jimmy just. Doesn't typically go for the passes that are more than 15-20 yards.

as you said - nothing against him, I really like him and think he deserves to be starting in this league, Purdy is simply more aggressive than jimmy and seems to trust his ability to complete those deeper chunk plays.

Because they are married to the narratives that either Jimmy did exactly what Kyle wanted or that Kyle was limiting Jimmy. Clearly neither are true.

If the 9ers had Brock Purdy in the NFC title game and he played like he did on Sunday the 9ers would've blown the Rams out. Aiyuk was open all game.

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by OnTheClock:
I don't understand why this is so hard to grasp. How many weeks of film footage where Jimmy opted not to take the wide open deep shot do folks need to see? Jimmy was playing super well, not to take anything away from his overall body of work. He just didn't make the same decisions that we saw Purdy and Lance make on the deep options available.

It's not based on feels or emotions, it's hard facts from the film. The same guys have been open each week downfield, the only difference is who the QB chose to throw it to.

I agree. Idk why others can't see this. Kyles plays usually have an option on all three levels of the defense, Jimmy just. Doesn't typically go for the passes that are more than 15-20 yards.

as you said - nothing against him, I really like him and think he deserves to be starting in this league, Purdy is simply more aggressive than jimmy and seems to trust his ability to complete those deeper chunk plays.

i have always liked Jimmy.

I need a few more games with Purdy to see if its an anomaly or sustainable.

That said Jimmy is just a boring QB - highly effective - highly boring.

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:

Originally posted by tankle104:
I agree. Idk why others can't see this. Kyles plays usually have an option on all three levels of the defense, Jimmy just. Doesn't typically go for the passes that are more than 15-20 yards.

as you said - nothing against him, I really like him and think he deserves to be starting in this league, Purdy is simply more aggressive than jimmy and seems to trust his ability to complete those deeper chunk plays.

Because they are married to the narratives that either Jimmy did exactly what Kyle wanted or that Kyle was limiting Jimmy. Clearly neither are true.

If the 9ers had Brock Purdy in the NFC title game and he played like he did on Sunday the 9ers would've blown the Rams out. Aiyuk was open all game.

Yea he was. Aiyuk is one of the best in the league in beating coverage. Also, Deebo was wide open down the sideline for a game winning TD. You don't need 3+ seconds of pass protection to throw the deep ball. You just need to see the open receiver and let it rip.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:

Originally posted by JoseCortez:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by JoseCortez:
Exactly this. I wasn't criticizing Shanahan. I was just saying what I think Shanahan shouldn't be doing.

I have seen a light turn on in shanny with purdy that I haven't seen with Jimmy or Lance or any other qb.

The play-calling hasn't been different. The way the QB is executing those plays and how they've played when pressured imo has been different. Brock is moving/feeling pressure much better than Jimmy, which is creating positive outcomes.

I can't agree with this. Even shanahan's sideline demeanor has changed. I mentioned this in the preseason. Shanahan looks more excited when Purdy is in and was also much more aggressive in both playcalling as well as in game situations. Just look at that td drive before half against the bucs. If that was Jimmy or Lance, Shanahan calls it with shriveled nuts. It's a completely different Shanahan with Purdy in.

Shanahan almost always attacks all three levels with his play calls, and as he recently mentioned, he is NOT telling the QBs where to throw the ball every play.

Also, Lance was throwing deeper too, so no, he's not having "shriveled nuts" with Lance. He was just running with the QB a lot. But the PASSING plays still went downfield. Hence why Lance had the highest air yards of any QB in three years.

There's nothing different with the play calls. It's the QB Seeing the field better

And simply being capable of extending a play when it breaks down

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by 9ers4eva:

Originally posted by tankle104:
I agree. Idk why others can't see this. Kyles plays usually have an option on all three levels of the defense, Jimmy just. Doesn't typically go for the passes that are more than 15-20 yards.

as you said - nothing against him, I really like him and think he deserves to be starting in this league, Purdy is simply more aggressive than jimmy and seems to trust his ability to complete those deeper chunk plays.

Because they are married to the narratives that either Jimmy did exactly what Kyle wanted or that Kyle was limiting Jimmy. Clearly neither are true.

If the 9ers had Brock Purdy in the NFC title game and he played like he did on Sunday the 9ers would've blown the Rams out. Aiyuk was open all game.

Yea he was. Aiyuk is one of the best in the league in beating coverage. Also, Deebo was wide open down the sideline for a game winning TD. You don't need 3+ seconds of pass protection to throw the deep ball. You just need to see the open receiver and let it rip.

I think because of his arm limitations, Brock has had to learn to throw with anticipation far more than a gunslinger with a big arm who can wait until their receiver is open.

Given that, that means Purdy may not need the standard time to throw deeper. He's going to trust his guys will be getting to their spots.

That'll be both a blessing and a curse most likely.