QB Brock Purdy Thread

Originally posted by D0PEMAN:
20 yard pass is considered "deep"...

only in Niner talk.

It's not an opinion. Just Google it - that's what it says. If I'm wrong, then I'm wrong but that's what it says. Some says 15 air yards.

"The evolution of Mahomes' aerial attack mirrors a league-wide trend that last season saw the fewest number of deep balls attempted -- defined as traveling at least 15 air yards -- since 2006."

This is from NFL.com… lol

"These metrics and passing score (a metric that takes into account controllable factors and performance relative to league-average expectation; see an explainer here if you'd like) are the basis of my rankings. We were able to use passing score for the first time a year ago, and now that we have two seasons' worth of data at our disposal, we can gain an even better understanding of how well the league's top quarterbacks performed when throwing passes of 20-plus air yards.

Using these numbers (and minimum requirements of 15 deep attempts and a passer rating of 90 or better), let's sort out the best deep passers of 2022, presented below in reverse order:"

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by D0PEMAN:

20 yard pass is considered "deep"...

only in Niner talk.

It's not an opinion. Just Google it - that's what it says. If I'm wrong, then I'm wrong but that's what it says. Some says 15 air yards.

"The evolution of Mahomes' aerial attack mirrors a league-wide trend that last season saw the fewest number of deep balls attempted -- defined as traveling at least 15 air yards -- since 2006."

It may as well be a hail mary for jimmy g

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by Ezekiel38:

Originally posted by D0PEMAN:
For those who don't know, here are some examples of "deep balls"






Purdy will never be "elite" without these highlights.

This.

In terms of examples of what are actually deep balls.

Typically, a pass is considered "deep" if it travels 20-plus yards downfield. That's important because it means we're not just talking about high-lofting downfield bombs. We're also talking about balls that target deeper dig, corner and even comeback routes.

If you're considering only "deep balls" the major ones downfield, then specify that. considering those the only type of deep balls will confuse people, because it's incorrect.

When I use the phrase deep ball I'm talking about the type of examples shown above. I don't care about alternate definitions of what is "considered" deep. I'm talking about the type of over the top high-lofting downfield bomb plays in the gifs above.

So I am specifying that here and now - the high-lofting downfield bomb explosive plays are what I mean when I say I want to see deep balls.

Brock is aggressive and has the balls to throw the longer routes - he just needs to put some more air on the over the top bombs like vs the Rams to Deebo to let him run under it.

If we can add the over the top high-lofting deep balls to this offense and Brock hits those, we will win the Super Bowl and can beat Mahomes. I am THRILLED that Brock attempted those three balls he missed and that he wants to go downfield first then look to the shorter routes.

Originally posted by DonnieDarko:

Originally posted by Bay2Bay9erAllday:

I said that Brock Purdy's league leading 80% completion percentage between 10-19 yards had to regress this year, cause that's an astronomical number. Welllllll, so far he's completing 92.9% of his passes 13 of 14 pic.twitter.com/jqiFHMxnjz

— Alex Rollins (@AlexRollinsNFL) September 20, 2023

Who cares he cant hit em deep with them AIR YARDS

The intermediate passes are precisely where the majority of air yards come from. Those are why Brock had a higher completed air yards per attempt last year than Mahomes.

And he's THIRD in the NFL this year so far.l, behind Tua and Carr. And despite only 54 attempts, he's 9th in total air yards. Even his INTENDED air yards per pass attempt is high, ranking 8th.

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by D0PEMAN:
20 yard pass is considered "deep"...

only in Niner talk.

It's not an opinion. Just Google it - that's what it says. If I'm wrong, then I'm wrong but that's what it says. Some says 15 air yards.

"The evolution of Mahomes' aerial attack mirrors a league-wide trend that last season saw the fewest number of deep balls attempted -- defined as traveling at least 15 air yards -- since 2006."

perhaps there's a spectrum, in this case we're talking about the deeper side

If we want to return to glory, we need to see this:

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by D0PEMAN:
20 yard pass is considered "deep"...

only in Niner talk.

It's not an opinion. Just Google it - that's what it says. If I'm wrong, then I'm wrong but that's what it says. Some says 15 air yards.

"The evolution of Mahomes' aerial attack mirrors a league-wide trend that last season saw the fewest number of deep balls attempted -- defined as traveling at least 15 air yards -- since 2006."

I remember a breakdown of a short pass from a QB but he was far hash, throwing to the boundary on the opposite side, field is 53 and 1/2 wide, and the throw was on a diagonal, probably a 30 or so yard throw to gain 5 yds.

Originally posted by D0PEMAN:

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by D0PEMAN:
20 yard pass is considered "deep"...

only in Niner talk.

It's not an opinion. Just Google it - that's what it says. If I'm wrong, then I'm wrong but that's what it says. Some says 15 air yards.

"The evolution of Mahomes' aerial attack mirrors a league-wide trend that last season saw the fewest number of deep balls attempted -- defined as traveling at least 15 air yards -- since 2006."

perhaps there's a spectrum, in this case we're talking about the deeper side

Yeah, I'm not hating. Truthfully I thought it would be more than 20 yards too. Little surprised but that's what I've seen when googling it. I only bring it up cause you're going to have guys bringing it up.

I've always thought I'd deep passes as like 40+ or so, maybe even more. I've looked at like 10-30 as intermediate. It's interesting to know the definitions though.

so I guess 10-20 is intermediate and 20+ is considered a deep ball? That's good to know because now when we see stats, we have better context.

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by D0PEMAN:
20 yard pass is considered "deep"...

only in Niner talk.

It's not an opinion. Just Google it - that's what it says. If I'm wrong, then I'm wrong but that's what it says. Some says 15 air yards.

"The evolution of Mahomes' aerial attack mirrors a league-wide trend that last season saw the fewest number of deep balls attempted -- defined as traveling at least 15 air yards -- since 2006."

I remember a breakdown of a short pass from a QB but he was far hash, throwing to the boundary on the opposite side, field is 53 and 1/2 wide, and the throw was on a diagonal, probably a 30 or so yard throw to gain 5 yds.

Yeah haha I've seen running backs run like 30 yards just for a no gain play or so. Lmao too horizontal

Originally posted by tankle104:
This is from NFL.com… lol

"These metrics and passing score (a metric that takes into account controllable factors and performance relative to league-average expectation; see an explainer here if you'd like) are the basis of my rankings. We were able to use passing score for the first time a year ago, and now that we have two seasons' worth of data at our disposal, we can gain an even better understanding of how well the league's top quarterbacks performed when throwing passes of 20-plus air yards.

Using these numbers (and minimum requirements of 15 deep attempts and a passer rating of 90 or better), let's sort out the best deep passers of 2022, presented below in reverse order:"

The issue here is that, while those throws are necessary to complete a few times a game, they are rare. You can complete bombs, but you're likely going to lose if you're not completing slants, deep ins, deep outs and curls. The intermediate and "long" short passes are so much more important.

Show us you can be one of the 49ers "great QBs" Purdy, show us!

Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:

Originally posted by tankle104:
This is from NFL.com… lol

"These metrics and passing score (a metric that takes into account controllable factors and performance relative to league-average expectation; see an explainer here if you'd like) are the basis of my rankings. We were able to use passing score for the first time a year ago, and now that we have two seasons' worth of data at our disposal, we can gain an even better understanding of how well the league's top quarterbacks performed when throwing passes of 20-plus air yards.

Using these numbers (and minimum requirements of 15 deep attempts and a passer rating of 90 or better), let's sort out the best deep passers of 2022, presented below in reverse order:"

The issue here is that, while those throws are necessary to complete a few times a game, they are rare. You can complete bombs, but you're likely going to lose if you're not completing slants, deep ins, deep outs and curls. The intermediate and "long" short passes are so much more important.

I agree, I'm not one of the guys who believes the deep throw is some golden standard. They're a very small percentage of plays and even smaller chance of completing.

you just need your guy to have the threat of it to stretch the defense. The short game and intermediate, and semi long (like you said) is really where a majority of the game. Like 90%+ of all plays are less than 20 yards. It's just the reality of the game. Need to be able to work it.

it was lances biggest issue. Struggled with the bread and butter part of the field.

Lets not go too deep into Homer hole. I think most here know what we mean by deep ball without a google It's exactly a play like the ones posted above. And there just may be a day playing in the SB against KC and we are down by 6 and the final minute and seconds are winding down and we need to get the damn thing down the field fast with chunks of yards, that it will be required.

Plus it adds some fun! But really, yes there are times you need some quick yardage not depending on YAC. I can't imagine any fan not dreaming of this. I've been dreaming of this since Jimmy and hope Brock works his way into this.