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Originally posted by tankle104:
Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:
Originally posted by SLCNiner:
I can't find Purdy's QB rating on the year, but his total QBR (ESPN) is NUMBER ONE so far on the year. I understand the formula to determine QB rating, just don't have the time or energy to calculate his and all others in the league. ESPN's total QBR is as mysterious to me as PFF's ratings. Can someone help rank him?

His passer rating is 102.9.

https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/P/PurdBr00.htm

This page will usually have an update a day after a game is played.

Number one QBR (ESPN) in the league!! 😍

https://www.espn.com/nfl/qbr

Back to back weeks at number 1. And unlike passer rating, Total QBR is actually entirely based on what the quarterback does.
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Originally posted by Cisco0623:
Originally posted by DonnieDarko:
Originally posted by Young2Owens:
I can tell QB war lines are starting to take shape in this thread. The Trey and Jimmy wars are over. Begun the Brock war has

Everyone loves brock

Yeah who doesn't like Brock?

Some people just dont understand the difference between criticism and hate.
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Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
Originally posted by Cisco0623:
Originally posted by DonnieDarko:
Originally posted by Young2Owens:
I can tell QB war lines are starting to take shape in this thread. The Trey and Jimmy wars are over. Begun the Brock war has

Everyone loves brock

Yeah who doesn't like Brock?

Some people just dont understand the difference between criticism and hate.

If the Brock Wars have begun, then who is his apprentice? Who do we have to argue about? Always two, there are. No more. No less.
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Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
Originally posted by Cisco0623:
Originally posted by DonnieDarko:
Originally posted by Young2Owens:
I can tell QB war lines are starting to take shape in this thread. The Trey and Jimmy wars are over. Begun the Brock war has

Everyone loves brock

Yeah who doesn't like Brock?

Some people just dont understand the difference between criticism and hate.

Fair...

but criticism from couch warriors drinking cheap lager isnt really criticism is it?
Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:
Originally posted by SLCNiner:
Hells yeah! Thank you! Any idea how that ranks in the league? Opinions on which system is better or more accurate?



He's 8th in the league:
https://www.pro-football-reference.com/years/2023/passing.htm#passing::pass_rating

I personally think QBR is better than passer rating... because it attempts to isolate the QB's play as an individual. Passer rating is a team stat in practice. I don't think either should be taken very seriously... at least in small samples. Nothing beats looking at film.

Technically tied for 7th since him and Tua have the same exact passer rating.
Originally posted by YACBros85:
Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:
Originally posted by SLCNiner:
Hells yeah! Thank you! Any idea how that ranks in the league? Opinions on which system is better or more accurate?



He's 8th in the league:
https://www.pro-football-reference.com/years/2023/passing.htm#passing::pass_rating

I personally think QBR is better than passer rating... because it attempts to isolate the QB's play as an individual. Passer rating is a team stat in practice. I don't think either should be taken very seriously... at least in small samples. Nothing beats looking at film.

Technically tied for 7th since him and Tua have the same exact passer rating.

And he's number 1 in Total QBR. And Total QBR tells us more about how good a QB is playing than passer rating. Brock is, thus far, having a really good year.
Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:
Originally posted by YACBros85:
Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:
Originally posted by SLCNiner:
Hells yeah! Thank you! Any idea how that ranks in the league? Opinions on which system is better or more accurate?



He's 8th in the league:
https://www.pro-football-reference.com/years/2023/passing.htm#passing::pass_rating

I personally think QBR is better than passer rating... because it attempts to isolate the QB's play as an individual. Passer rating is a team stat in practice. I don't think either should be taken very seriously... at least in small samples. Nothing beats looking at film.

Technically tied for 7th since him and Tua have the same exact passer rating.

And he's number 1 in Total QBR. And Total QBR tells us more about how good a QB is playing than passer rating. Brock is, thus far, having a really good year.

I like them both. Passer rating is still a good stat because it separates the runners from the passers.
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Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:
Originally posted by YACBros85:
Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:
Originally posted by SLCNiner:
Hells yeah! Thank you! Any idea how that ranks in the league? Opinions on which system is better or more accurate?



He's 8th in the league:
https://www.pro-football-reference.com/years/2023/passing.htm#passing::pass_rating

I personally think QBR is better than passer rating... because it attempts to isolate the QB's play as an individual. Passer rating is a team stat in practice. I don't think either should be taken very seriously... at least in small samples. Nothing beats looking at film.

Technically tied for 7th since him and Tua have the same exact passer rating.

And he's number 1 in Total QBR. And Total QBR tells us more about how good a QB is playing than passer rating. Brock is, thus far, having a really good year.

Unquantifiable in 3, 2 1....

Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:
Originally posted by YACBros85:
Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:
Originally posted by SLCNiner:
Hells yeah! Thank you! Any idea how that ranks in the league? Opinions on which system is better or more accurate?



He's 8th in the league:
https://www.pro-football-reference.com/years/2023/passing.htm#passing::pass_rating

I personally think QBR is better than passer rating... because it attempts to isolate the QB's play as an individual. Passer rating is a team stat in practice. I don't think either should be taken very seriously... at least in small samples. Nothing beats looking at film.

Technically tied for 7th since him and Tua have the same exact passer rating.

And he's number 1 in Total QBR. And Total QBR tells us more about how good a QB is playing than passer rating. Brock is, thus far, having a really good year.

Last year Jimmy was 5th in QB rating and I believe 19th in QBR. I said I valued QBR more than QB rating, Furlow said I was biased for believing so…
Anyone else remember when Jerry was lobbying for us to get Deshaun Watson, calling him the "Lamborghini" of QBs? Maybe it was Ferrari, lol. Dude is a Volkswagen beetle compared to Brock Sturdy!

[ Edited by SLCNiner on Sep 19, 2023 at 7:07 PM ]
Originally posted by YACBros85:
Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:
Originally posted by YACBros85:
Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:
Originally posted by SLCNiner:
Hells yeah! Thank you! Any idea how that ranks in the league? Opinions on which system is better or more accurate?



He's 8th in the league:
https://www.pro-football-reference.com/years/2023/passing.htm#passing::pass_rating

I personally think QBR is better than passer rating... because it attempts to isolate the QB's play as an individual. Passer rating is a team stat in practice. I don't think either should be taken very seriously... at least in small samples. Nothing beats looking at film.

Technically tied for 7th since him and Tua have the same exact passer rating.

And he's number 1 in Total QBR. And Total QBR tells us more about how good a QB is playing than passer rating. Brock is, thus far, having a really good year.

I like them both. Passer rating is still a good stat because it separates the runners from the passers.

Well, ESPN's page has a column dedicated strictly to passing contributions to Total QBR. He's 9th in that. But it doesn't include things like sacks. Sucks that they keep their formula secret, because I'm trying to figure out how he got passed Tua on Total QBR. Maybe things like PASS are not yet weighted by total plays. Brock only has 65 while Tua has 80 something.

EDIT: Brock's EPA/PLAYS = 0.174. Tua's is 0.194. So that's not it. Maybe there's a competition factor, I don't know. They need to release the formula. But they won't. Makes me want to go remake my own metric (I now have four years of data compiled instead of 17 games, but I got bored... I'm interested now though).
[ Edited by 5_Golden_Rings on Sep 19, 2023 at 7:07 PM ]
Originally posted by SLCNiner:
Anyone else remember when Jerry was lobbying for us to get Deshaun Watson, calling him the "Lamborghini" of QBs? Maybe it was Ferrari, lol. Dude is a Volkswagen beetle compared to Brock Sturdy!

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Originally posted by krizay:
Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:
Originally posted by YACBros85:
Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:
Originally posted by SLCNiner:
Hells yeah! Thank you! Any idea how that ranks in the league? Opinions on which system is better or more accurate?



He's 8th in the league:
https://www.pro-football-reference.com/years/2023/passing.htm#passing::pass_rating

I personally think QBR is better than passer rating... because it attempts to isolate the QB's play as an individual. Passer rating is a team stat in practice. I don't think either should be taken very seriously... at least in small samples. Nothing beats looking at film.

Technically tied for 7th since him and Tua have the same exact passer rating.

And he's number 1 in Total QBR. And Total QBR tells us more about how good a QB is playing than passer rating. Brock is, thus far, having a really good year.

Unquantifiable in 3, 2 1....


Would you say he was accurate or inaccurate against the Rams ?
Originally posted by tommyncal:
Originally posted by krizay:
Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:
Originally posted by YACBros85:
Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:
Originally posted by SLCNiner:
Hells yeah! Thank you! Any idea how that ranks in the league? Opinions on which system is better or more accurate?



He's 8th in the league:
https://www.pro-football-reference.com/years/2023/passing.htm#passing::pass_rating

I personally think QBR is better than passer rating... because it attempts to isolate the QB's play as an individual. Passer rating is a team stat in practice. I don't think either should be taken very seriously... at least in small samples. Nothing beats looking at film.

Technically tied for 7th since him and Tua have the same exact passer rating.

And he's number 1 in Total QBR. And Total QBR tells us more about how good a QB is playing than passer rating. Brock is, thus far, having a really good year.

Unquantifiable in 3, 2 1....


Would you say he was accurate or inaccurate against the Rams ?

I know you're asking krizay, but both? Less accurate than the Steelers game. Last week PFR had him at 10th in On Target Passing, and now he's 11th, so he was definitely less accurate than last week. His bad throw percentage shot up by more. Not the best game in terms of accuracy. But he's still way up there in on target throws.
[ Edited by 5_Golden_Rings on Sep 19, 2023 at 7:16 PM ]
Originally posted by tommyncal:
Would you say he was accurate or inaccurate against the Rams ?

70% completion rate, great yards per completion
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