QB Brock Purdy Thread

Originally posted by Crown:

Originally posted by Miranda:
People here seems obsessed about deep balls. It's hilarious

It's what people know about themselves inside that makes 'em obsess about another mans balls.

Lol

Originally posted by YACBros85:
Brock has completed 50 of 60 (83%)passes in the 10-19 yard range in his NFL career.

Dude throw that out, we don't need that s**t, that's garbage…
We need the deep ball

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by Miranda:
People here seems obsessed about deep balls. It's hilarious

Would have given them two extra TDs. I like scoring TDs and have a complete offense that uses the whole field. So if that equal being obsessed…okay?

We lost a freaking SB because we couldn't hit that deep ball, the other QB won it because he could.

Some people get so defensive and emotional about the QB. Totally get it, also it's okay to be objective about them and what they're good and not so good at. They can also improve, much like any player

we lost the SB due our run being stuffed and couldn't connect on wide open short throws (due to c jones ten foot arms).

We QUIT running the ball.
Chief players even said that in interviews they didn't understand why we quit running the ball on them and were happy we stopped.

Originally posted by thl408:
I agree. Lots of room to CMC's outside shoulder. It would have been a touchdown. Pretty sure that was a choice route for CMC. What I like about that play is that the 49ers were trying to beat the blitz with a quick throw, not with an extra blocker. That takes confidence and trust in the QB to make a quick and correct decision.

I would be surprised if that was a choice route, if for no other reason than CMC didn't break it off. Looked like a standard Texas route out of the backfield, but I'll wait to see if someone analyzes the play on film.

Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:

Originally posted by Giedi:

Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:
Also, I'm warning you NC. You are dangerously close to making me follow through on my threat to post Brony memes and unironic Twilight content. I said in the Kyle thread if one more person tries to blame Jimmy not throwing to open deep guys on "Kyle's system" I'm gonna do it. Because Kyle has REPEATEDLY said—including after the Rams game—that he wants his QBs taking those open deep shots.

You've been warned...

Personally, I just don't think the long ball is a point of emphasis on this offense. Yes, Purdy does need to take the long ball shots, if its' there. But just taking it and missing - still has some benefits, and still will scare some DC's into loosening their pass coverages. *IF* the long ball was something Kyle wanted to make as a featured part of his game, he'd want more Tyreek Hill type WR's and less Deebo, Aiyuk, and Jauan type of Wr's. I just don't think those misses will significantly affect Kyle's passing offense to where it will be shut down. Having said that, we'll see in the NY Giants game if Purdy is still having problems with the Long Ball. NY Giants, as I understand it, haven't had a defensive sack this season yet. (somebody correct me if I'm wrong) But if I"m right, the NY Giants game would be the time to throw the long ball and get Purdy's deep ball calibrated correctly.

One of the differences between Brock and Jimmy is that Brock DOES take those shots. And I hate to say this yet again, but in 2018 when CJ Beathard went in, immediately there were more shots down the field. He took more shots with Trey in as well. But that isn't even the point. Kyle has said REPEATEDLY that when the shots are there he wants his guys taking them. There is no "Don't throw it to the open man down the field because you have to throw it to the short guy I schemed open for you" nonsense in this offense. When the play is there, he wants his guys making it, and he wants them being fearless and taking shots when they are there. He's said this numerous times.

Disagree, the long ball is simply *NOT* a point of emphasis in Kyle's offense. YAC is. I understand what you are saying, in that Kyle does not *discourage* long ball throws if it's there. NC is simply saying it's not practiced much in this offense whereas the YAC passes are. Hence, when it IS there, because it's not extensively practiced, it's more miss than hit - in Brock's case. That is one explanation of Brock's Rams misfires. I happen to share that option also. But also, every QB has a bad day. Brock's not a robot, he's human. So he's not perfect. Only one guy was - that was 2,000 or so years ago when he walked the earth.

If there's one statistic that the Niners offense is known for above anything else, it's YAC: Yards After the Catch. The way that Shanahan generates the YAC is by designing his plays to target the middle of the field, allowing his receivers to catch the ball with plenty of momentum and a lot of real estate around them so they can carry on for another chunk of yards before being tackled.
https://www.bruinsportsanalytics.com/post/kyleshanahan

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Originally posted by Giedi:

Brock Purdy was asked if Jimmy G ever shared his QB sneak secrets with him

"I mean, nah... but it's all good. I love Jim." 😂 pic.twitter.com/AULSAQDC29

— KNBR (@KNBR) September 18, 2023

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It's the timing of that back leg drive to the snap. Watch jimmy's qb sneak and brocks yesterday and its the same.

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by Waterbear:
Maybe I got up for snacks on that play because I don't remember that. LOL.

Either way, I'm very confident in Brock, even if this wasn't his best performance.

Seriously though, the offense scored 30 points against a good defense, while the other teams offense was playing very well, and this is considered an "off game".

We've reached a new level of QB play IMO.

One quibble, I'm not gonna call the Rams a good D, sure Donald, but they also give heavy snaps to Witherspoon. A lot of their rook class is active on D, not cuz they want to, but cuz they need bodies out there. I like how Sanchez was describing it as a guy who's played in the league, BP just needs to be the point guard, distribute the football. Let these guys go to work. Like KS said once, it's simple stuff, can you do it? He had a mixed game himself, but the team around him played very well. Just my take.

I think the Rams have a very underrated group, just look at what they did to the Seahawks in the second half of week 1.

The Seahawks are not a bad team, especially on offense, and they got pummeled by the Rams.

Byron Young is going to be a very good player.

Originally posted by jed_X:

Originally posted by Giedi:

Brock Purdy was asked if Jimmy G ever shared his QB sneak secrets with him

"I mean, nah... but it's all good. I love Jim." 😂 pic.twitter.com/AULSAQDC29

— KNBR (@KNBR) September 18, 2023

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It's the timing of that back leg drive to the snap. Watch jimmy's qb sneak and brocks yesterday and its the same.

Good if it's similar. Brock did say he watched a TON of Jimmy QB sneaks to get a feel for doing QB sneaks because Jimmy was so good at it.

Originally posted by Waterbear:

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:

Originally posted by Waterbear:
Other than the deep passes, I can't remember too many missed passes.

I know he had a couple throw aways, and the miscue with CMC in the redzone, where I thought that was due to pressure more than lack of accuracy.

But I will rewatch the game tonight like I always do, maybe I missed something.

It's just refreshing to me to have a QB who uses his feet to open new throwing windows. And I agree this wasn't Purdy at his best.

There were ball placement issues on some of the completed passes. He also had the incompletion to Deebo on the 3rd down slant.

I didn't think much of the incompletion to the flat when the Rams sent the house late in the game. Like the Sanchize was saying he was probably expecting CMC to break off his route or something along those lines.

Maybe I got up for snacks on that play because I don't remember that. LOL.

You get up for snacks when its 3rd down?

Originally posted by Waterbear:
I think the Rams have a very underrated group, just look at what they did to the Seahawks in the second half of week 1.

The Seahawks are not a bad team, especially on offense, and they got pummeled by the Rams.

Byron Young is going to be a very good player.

I think LAR got lucky vs SEA, and they do have a elite HC and QB, so that goes a long way. I think come end of season, LAR will be a below average D. Who knows, but just my suspicion. It's a far cry from their SB D.

Originally posted by Waterbear:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by Waterbear:
Maybe I got up for snacks on that play because I don't remember that. LOL.

Either way, I'm very confident in Brock, even if this wasn't his best performance.

Seriously though, the offense scored 30 points against a good defense, while the other teams offense was playing very well, and this is considered an "off game".

We've reached a new level of QB play IMO.

One quibble, I'm not gonna call the Rams a good D, sure Donald, but they also give heavy snaps to Witherspoon. A lot of their rook class is active on D, not cuz they want to, but cuz they need bodies out there. I like how Sanchez was describing it as a guy who's played in the league, BP just needs to be the point guard, distribute the football. Let these guys go to work. Like KS said once, it's simple stuff, can you do it? He had a mixed game himself, but the team around him played very well. Just my take.

I think the Rams have a very underrated group, just look at what they did to the Seahawks in the second half of week 1.

The Seahawks are not a bad team, especially on offense, and they got pummeled by the Rams.

Byron Young is going to be a very good player.

Both McVay and Carroll are good coaches, as much as I rag on Pete and Sean. In ONE season, both teams - after their respective cap hells, are on the road to recovery big time fast. Key is for the 49ers to keep them off year after year, and the big thing for both franchises (Seahawks and Rams) is their QB situation. Geno is simply not an elite QB, and while Stafford *is* an elite QB, he's OLD as heck and ready to retire in (hopefully a year or two). But they both do a great job in getting the players they need to power their respective coaching systems.

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
I just thought he had passes behind receivers causing them to break stride, or low during various parts of the game. Those passes limited the YAC because they werent accurate. Now, most of them were completed, so I could see why they would be overlooked as inaccurate passes.

It seems to me the routs are stoping more often then crossing too....like across the board. I originally noticed it during lances preseason play, and I wondered if that was a thing just for lance. Maybe the offense was trying to get the routs to "show their numbers" more. I have seen that in college spring camp before. Players will stop and turn toward the QB to "show their numbers" after they diagnose their own personal rout assignments. That is what it reminds me of. It was not a Lance thing tho.....now I see those routs everywhere during the regular season.

I think there has been a change to some of the routs being ran, and it seems Brock is delivering the ball lower too.

I could be wrong, not like I have studied it...just what I have noticed, we have less players staying in motion and crossing, and Brock is keeping the ball lower or in the case of his well documented overthrows so far out in front of the target the turn over rate is low.

I wonder if we are seeing a deliberate attempt to protect the ball, or a deliberate change to play calling, or just the randomness that comes from a small sample size...or maybe this a tactical choice to effect games later in the season.

I dunno...I don't have an answer....but I am seeing what you are seeing....lack of YAC

Originally posted by Dshearn:
It seems to me the routs are stoping more often then crossing too....like across the board. I originally noticed it during lances preseason play, and I wondered if that was a thing just for lance. Maybe the offense was trying to get the routs to "show their numbers" more. I have seen that in college spring camp before. Players will stop and turn toward the QB to "show their numbers" after they diagnose their own personal rout assignments. That is what it reminds me of. It was not a Lance thing tho.....now I see those routs everywhere during the regular season.

I think there has been a change to some of the routs being ran, and it seems Brock is delivering the ball lower too.

I could be wrong, not like I have studied it...just what I have noticed, we have less players staying in motion and crossing, and Brock is keeping the ball lower or in the case of his well documented overthrows so far out in front of the target the turn over rate is low.

I wonder if we are seeing a deliberate attempt to protect the ball, or a deliberate change to play calling, or just the randomness that comes from a small sample size...or maybe this a tactical choice to effect games later in the season.

I dunno...I don't have an answer....but I am seeing what you are seeing....lack of YAC

Probably the result of seeing more zone coverage. Settling in a soft spot. That'd be my guess if there's anything to it.

Originally posted by Jeepzilla:

Originally posted by YACBros85:
Brock has completed 50 of 60 (83%)passes in the 10-19 yard range in his NFL career.

Dude throw that out, we don't need that s**t, that's garbage…
We need the deep ball

Hey man it's a great stat.