QB Brock Purdy Thread

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by Giedi:

Originally posted by NCommand:
We've seen this deep ball theme before. I think when you have a safe game plan where a huge chunk of the low volume of passes are behind or just past the LOS and then 2-3 times a game, are asked to hit the deep lower % shot, it's off. Even the wide open ones.

It's like chipping on the chipping green for 3 hours and then heading out to tee/hole 1 and trying to hit your driver for the first time that day.

Personally, I think the OLIne has a bit to do with the long ball misfires. I think Purdy might be rushing it a bit on those long throws simply because he may not yet trust his right side pass protections. Just a shot in the dark. Also Donald had some good pressures up the middle and if the QB can't really step into the pocket, that may cause those long ball miscues. On One 3 yard slant pass to Deebo, Sanchez commented on Brock's foot mechanics and his toes were pointed in the wrong direction to where the Wr was running his routes. Putting Purdy in a shot gun, a la Jimmy, might help on those longer developing routes.

Ironically, I hadn't even thought of that. No, really.

I wonder if he did have any rushed-psychology there or was under some duress on those throws. Good point. All-22 will help.

Sure, I believe you.
I got the feeling he was much more nervous about this game than other games. I think the veterans wanted this game bad and kind of maybe put a little bit more pressure on Purdy than they usually do, because it's the Rams. It's also a division game and McVay will do a good job in defending the 49er offense - simply because of familiarity. He knows the Kyle offense very well.

Having said that, the Offensive Line is always key to a QB's performance one way or another, good or bad.

Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
We have to remember that he didn't get a lot of time in camp and in the off season because he was rehabbing. I don't mind if he misses as long as he doesn't throw it to a defender.

Totally agree. He definitely was off this game.

Also, I can't imagine the pressure the dude is under walking into games with the vets around, Trent, kittle, Bosa, Deebo, Fred, etc who "expect" wins.
Some throw out he has no pressure, just get it to the playmakers…. I disagree. I think he's got a ton a pressure and doesn't want to let anyone down.

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by YACBros85:
Brock has completed 50 of 60 (83%)passes in the 10-19 yard range in his NFL career.

THAT is Kyle's happy place too so this is a monster connection.

Jimmy's highest completion % in that range was 74% and his lowest was around 55%.

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by NCommand:
We've seen this deep ball theme before. I think when you have a safe game plan where a huge chunk of the low volume of passes are behind or just past the LOS and then 2-3 times a game, are asked to hit the deep lower % shot, it's off. Even the wide open ones.

It's like chipping on the chipping green for 3 hours and then heading out to tee/hole 1 and trying to hit your driver for the first time that day.

Meh, it's not like Mahomes/Herbert/Allen/Stafford are chucking it deep every other drop back. It's the NFL and if you want to be paid like an elite guy….you gotta hit those open explosives…at the very least give the receiver a shot to make the play.

it wasn't just one throw either, it was a couple throws downfield. I'm not saying he can't or never will…but this issue dates back to his college time as well.

His overall game is good…I'm happy he's our guy right now. Hopefully it's something he can become a little more consistent at.

Those are pass centric offenses where the QB has plenty of time to get in rhythm. We're run centric. So I'm just saying when those deeper shots are dialed up, while there are no excuses here, it seems we see things a bit off here no matter the QB. I think that's why.

WK1 the chargers ran it more than any team in football, they currently have one less rushing attempt then us…The Rams run the football just as much as we do (currently the same amount of attempts) the Bill have 5 less rushing attempts. Eagles run the ball more than we do and hurts can still sling it downfield when asked.

they're off because we haven't had a QB that can actually hit those shots on a somewhat consistent basis…is Jimmy slinging downfield in LV? Nope. That's not what he's good at, so why ask him to do it?

I'm not saying Brock stinks at pushing the ball downfield, on legit deep field throws…overall I just don't think that's a strong part of his game. To use your golf analogy…he doesn't take the driver out of the bag because he's not good at hitting the driver. maybe he improves there….I feel like deep ball accuracy is something that you either have or don't. Like I said time will tell, he's still young and hasn't even played a full season of football.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by NCommand:
We've seen this deep ball theme before. I think when you have a safe game plan where a huge chunk of the low volume of passes are behind or just past the LOS and then 2-3 times a game, are asked to hit the deep lower % shot, it's off. Even the wide open ones.

It's like chipping on the chipping green for 3 hours and then heading out to tee/hole 1 and trying to hit your driver for the first time that day.

Meh, it's not like Mahomes/Herbert/Allen/Stafford are chucking it deep every other drop back. It's the NFL and if you want to be paid like an elite guy….you gotta hit those open explosives…at the very least give the receiver a shot to make the play.

it wasn't just one throw either, it was a couple throws downfield. I'm not saying he can't or never will…but this issue dates back to his college time as well.

His overall game is good…I'm happy he's our guy right now. Hopefully it's something he can become a little more consistent at.

Those are pass centric offenses where the QB has plenty of time to get in rhythm. We're run centric. So I'm just saying when those deeper shots are dialed up, while there are no excuses here, it seems we see things a bit off here no matter the QB. I think that's why.

WK1 the chargers ran it more than any team in football, they currently have one less rushing attempt then us…The Rams run the football just as much as we do (currently the same amount of attempts) the Bill have 5 less rushing attempts. Eagles run the ball more than we do and hurts can still sling it downfield when asked.

they're off because we haven't had a QB that can actually hit those shots on a somewhat consistent basis…is Jimmy slinging downfield in LV? Nope. That's not what he's good at, so why ask him to do it?

I'm not saying Brock stinks at pushing the ball downfield, on legit deep field throws…overall I just don't think that's a strong part of his game. To use your golf analogy…he doesn't take the driver out of the bag because he's not good at hitting the driver. maybe he improves there….I feel like deep ball accuracy is something that you either have or don't. Like I said time will tell, he's still young and hasn't even played a full season of football.

Justin Fields can throw deep.

Originally posted by Cisco0623:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by NCommand:
We've seen this deep ball theme before. I think when you have a safe game plan where a huge chunk of the low volume of passes are behind or just past the LOS and then 2-3 times a game, are asked to hit the deep lower % shot, it's off. Even the wide open ones.

It's like chipping on the chipping green for 3 hours and then heading out to tee/hole 1 and trying to hit your driver for the first time that day.

Meh, it's not like Mahomes/Herbert/Allen/Stafford are chucking it deep every other drop back. It's the NFL and if you want to be paid like an elite guy….you gotta hit those open explosives…at the very least give the receiver a shot to make the play.

it wasn't just one throw either, it was a couple throws downfield. I'm not saying he can't or never will…but this issue dates back to his college time as well.

His overall game is good…I'm happy he's our guy right now. Hopefully it's something he can become a little more consistent at.

Those are pass centric offenses where the QB has plenty of time to get in rhythm. We're run centric. So I'm just saying when those deeper shots are dialed up, while there are no excuses here, it seems we see things a bit off here no matter the QB. I think that's why.

WK1 the chargers ran it more than any team in football, they currently have one less rushing attempt then us…The Rams run the football just as much as we do (currently the same amount of attempts) the Bill have 5 less rushing attempts. Eagles run the ball more than we do and hurts can still sling it downfield when asked.

they're off because we haven't had a QB that can actually hit those shots on a somewhat consistent basis…is Jimmy slinging downfield in LV? Nope. That's not what he's good at, so why ask him to do it?

I'm not saying Brock stinks at pushing the ball downfield, on legit deep field throws…overall I just don't think that's a strong part of his game. To use your golf analogy…he doesn't take the driver out of the bag because he's not good at hitting the driver. maybe he improves there….I feel like deep ball accuracy is something that you either have or don't. Like I said time will tell, he's still young and hasn't even played a full season of football.

Justin Fields can throw deep.

But can he find the open receiver?

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by Cisco0623:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by NCommand:
We've seen this deep ball theme before. I think when you have a safe game plan where a huge chunk of the low volume of passes are behind or just past the LOS and then 2-3 times a game, are asked to hit the deep lower % shot, it's off. Even the wide open ones.

It's like chipping on the chipping green for 3 hours and then heading out to tee/hole 1 and trying to hit your driver for the first time that day.

Meh, it's not like Mahomes/Herbert/Allen/Stafford are chucking it deep every other drop back. It's the NFL and if you want to be paid like an elite guy….you gotta hit those open explosives…at the very least give the receiver a shot to make the play.

it wasn't just one throw either, it was a couple throws downfield. I'm not saying he can't or never will…but this issue dates back to his college time as well.

His overall game is good…I'm happy he's our guy right now. Hopefully it's something he can become a little more consistent at.

Those are pass centric offenses where the QB has plenty of time to get in rhythm. We're run centric. So I'm just saying when those deeper shots are dialed up, while there are no excuses here, it seems we see things a bit off here no matter the QB. I think that's why.

WK1 the chargers ran it more than any team in football, they currently have one less rushing attempt then us…The Rams run the football just as much as we do (currently the same amount of attempts) the Bill have 5 less rushing attempts. Eagles run the ball more than we do and hurts can still sling it downfield when asked.

they're off because we haven't had a QB that can actually hit those shots on a somewhat consistent basis…is Jimmy slinging downfield in LV? Nope. That's not what he's good at, so why ask him to do it?

I'm not saying Brock stinks at pushing the ball downfield, on legit deep field throws…overall I just don't think that's a strong part of his game. To use your golf analogy…he doesn't take the driver out of the bag because he's not good at hitting the driver. maybe he improves there….I feel like deep ball accuracy is something that you either have or don't. Like I said time will tell, he's still young and hasn't even played a full season of football.

Justin Fields can throw deep.

But can he find the open receiver?

Fields can't find an open 7-11 store.

Originally posted by YACBros85:

Originally posted by Cisco0623:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by NCommand:
We've seen this deep ball theme before. I think when you have a safe game plan where a huge chunk of the low volume of passes are behind or just past the LOS and then 2-3 times a game, are asked to hit the deep lower % shot, it's off. Even the wide open ones.

It's like chipping on the chipping green for 3 hours and then heading out to tee/hole 1 and trying to hit your driver for the first time that day.

Meh, it's not like Mahomes/Herbert/Allen/Stafford are chucking it deep every other drop back. It's the NFL and if you want to be paid like an elite guy….you gotta hit those open explosives…at the very least give the receiver a shot to make the play.

it wasn't just one throw either, it was a couple throws downfield. I'm not saying he can't or never will…but this issue dates back to his college time as well.

His overall game is good…I'm happy he's our guy right now. Hopefully it's something he can become a little more consistent at.

Those are pass centric offenses where the QB has plenty of time to get in rhythm. We're run centric. So I'm just saying when those deeper shots are dialed up, while there are no excuses here, it seems we see things a bit off here no matter the QB. I think that's why.

WK1 the chargers ran it more than any team in football, they currently have one less rushing attempt then us…The Rams run the football just as much as we do (currently the same amount of attempts) the Bill have 5 less rushing attempts. Eagles run the ball more than we do and hurts can still sling it downfield when asked.

they're off because we haven't had a QB that can actually hit those shots on a somewhat consistent basis…is Jimmy slinging downfield in LV? Nope. That's not what he's good at, so why ask him to do it?

I'm not saying Brock stinks at pushing the ball downfield, on legit deep field throws…overall I just don't think that's a strong part of his game. To use your golf analogy…he doesn't take the driver out of the bag because he's not good at hitting the driver. maybe he improves there….I feel like deep ball accuracy is something that you either have or don't. Like I said time will tell, he's still young and hasn't even played a full season of football.

Justin Fields can throw deep.

But can he find the open receiver?

when he does, will he give credit to his OC ?

Originally posted by Shorteous:
Other QBs are passing 25-35% more per game. If I were to guess the pass attempt per game expectation for Purdy is around 27 per game. Other QBs are 37-45… Stafford threw 50+ times yesterday.

And yet the Rams have same amount of rushing attempts this yr.

Originally posted by Cisco0623:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by NCommand:
We've seen this deep ball theme before. I think when you have a safe game plan where a huge chunk of the low volume of passes are behind or just past the LOS and then 2-3 times a game, are asked to hit the deep lower % shot, it's off. Even the wide open ones.

It's like chipping on the chipping green for 3 hours and then heading out to tee/hole 1 and trying to hit your driver for the first time that day.

Meh, it's not like Mahomes/Herbert/Allen/Stafford are chucking it deep every other drop back. It's the NFL and if you want to be paid like an elite guy….you gotta hit those open explosives…at the very least give the receiver a shot to make the play.

it wasn't just one throw either, it was a couple throws downfield. I'm not saying he can't or never will…but this issue dates back to his college time as well.

His overall game is good…I'm happy he's our guy right now. Hopefully it's something he can become a little more consistent at.

Those are pass centric offenses where the QB has plenty of time to get in rhythm. We're run centric. So I'm just saying when those deeper shots are dialed up, while there are no excuses here, it seems we see things a bit off here no matter the QB. I think that's why.

WK1 the chargers ran it more than any team in football, they currently have one less rushing attempt then us…The Rams run the football just as much as we do (currently the same amount of attempts) the Bill have 5 less rushing attempts. Eagles run the ball more than we do and hurts can still sling it downfield when asked.

they're off because we haven't had a QB that can actually hit those shots on a somewhat consistent basis…is Jimmy slinging downfield in LV? Nope. That's not what he's good at, so why ask him to do it?

I'm not saying Brock stinks at pushing the ball downfield, on legit deep field throws…overall I just don't think that's a strong part of his game. To use your golf analogy…he doesn't take the driver out of the bag because he's not good at hitting the driver. maybe he improves there….I feel like deep ball accuracy is something that you either have or don't. Like I said time will tell, he's still young and hasn't even played a full season of football.

Justin Fields can throw deep.

Justin fields can't do anything

Originally posted by NYniner85:
Justin fields can't do anything

He gets sacked and throws picks insanely well

Originally posted by NCommand:
200 yards passing. 160 rushing. This is Kyle's world.

Be efficient, B-E efficient.

Well done, kid.

Just as a humorous aside, if air yards are so unimportant, if that ball Deebo scored on has one more air yard, it becomes a touchdown pass and Brock's passer rating goes from 93.1 to 106.42.

Also, if passer rating is such an accurate measure of QB play, the lol (that's my real point hehehe; passer rating lol amirite).

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:

Originally posted by JoseCortez:
His worst game. He was rattled by this shoddy oline.

Also depressed with shannahans predictable playcalling. His willingness to run McCaffrey and deebo into the ground. His refusal to play Mitchell or Mason. There was such a lack of variety and a terrible game plan by Kyle.

He didn't look rattled at all. He had plenty of time for the most part, made the right decisions, he was just off on a few throws, it happens. Good opportunity for him to have a bounce back game on Thursday.

For real lmao. How does anyone watch that game and say he was rattled? He was inaccurate at times, not rattled. Fact is he's not as accurate as some guys here think he is, but all you have to do to complete the pass is get it close enough to be caught. He needs to work on that. But rattled? LMAO no this kid has nerves of steal.

Originally posted by NCommand:
Exactly my point.

It's funny...we had this same exact conversation with Jimmy too. I still think Brock will be better in the long run in this area but some of this can be attributed to the style of offense run here. IMHO, of course.

I'm not talking about throwing it deep every drop back, I'm talking about the lack of execution when those plays are available. You've said it was lack of deep threats before, yet we got dudes wide open downfield. Now it's because they don't throw it deep all the time or throw it 50 times a game as to why they can make those plays?

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by NCommand:
We've seen this deep ball theme before. I think when you have a safe game plan where a huge chunk of the low volume of passes are behind or just past the LOS and then 2-3 times a game, are asked to hit the deep lower % shot, it's off. Even the wide open ones.

It's like chipping on the chipping green for 3 hours and then heading out to tee/hole 1 and trying to hit your driver for the first time that day.

Meh, it's not like Mahomes/Herbert/Allen/Stafford are chucking it deep every other drop back. It's the NFL and if you want to be paid like an elite guy….you gotta hit those open explosives…at the very least give the receiver a shot to make the play.

it wasn't just one throw either, it was a couple throws downfield. I'm not saying he can't or never will…but this issue dates back to his college time as well.

His overall game is good…I'm happy he's our guy right now. Hopefully it's something he can become a little more consistent at.

Those are pass centric offenses where the QB has plenty of time to get in rhythm. We're run centric. So I'm just saying when those deeper shots are dialed up, while there are no excuses here, it seems we see things a bit off here no matter the QB. I think that's why.

WK1 the chargers ran it more than any team in football, they currently have one less rushing attempt then us…The Rams run the football just as much as we do (currently the same amount of attempts) the Bill have 5 less rushing attempts. Eagles run the ball more than we do and hurts can still sling it downfield when asked.

they're off because we haven't had a QB that can actually hit those shots on a somewhat consistent basis…is Jimmy slinging downfield in LV? Nope. That's not what he's good at, so why ask him to do it?

I'm not saying Brock stinks at pushing the ball downfield, on legit deep field throws…overall I just don't think that's a strong part of his game. To use your golf analogy…he doesn't take the driver out of the bag because he's not good at hitting the driver. maybe he improves there….I feel like deep ball accuracy is something that you either have or don't. Like I said time will tell, he's still young and hasn't even played a full season of football.

I don't like that golf analogy, I think it's misguided, I think the driver is fine, but the 3 wood is so majestic that you stick with it.

It's fine it'll come, Not saying he's going to turn into prime Russ with his deep ball, but I doubt he'll be 0 for 3 many times when the feel, rhythm and trust fully returns.