QB Brock Purdy Thread | Page 1738

Sep 18, 2023 at 11:29 AM

#26056

Wubbie
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Originally posted by LasVegasWally:
Once he fixes the accuracy issue, we'll be running up some very high scores.

30 points the last two games has already been very high.

League leaders in points last year was 29 points/game.

Sep 18, 2023 at 11:31 AM

#26057

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2-0 after two road games. 8th in the NFL in passer rating. 1st in the NFL in QBR. 5th in the NFL in YPA. 5th in the NFL in IAY/attempt.

Niners are 6th in team yards per game and 3rd in points per game.

Very happy with our QB.

[ Edited by Furlow on Sep 18, 2023 at 11:33 AM ]

Sep 18, 2023 at 11:31 AM

#26058

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Originally posted by 9erReign:

Originally posted by SLCNiner:
How big a concern is the deep ball accuracy? I feel like that is the one aspect of the offense that's been missing, and if teams don't respect the deep threat, feel like it takes away from the overall potency of the offense.

Is his deep ball accuracy a recurring issue? Or just last game? Because all his accuracy was off against the Rams. Almost every throw was 2 yards off, even the short stuff. Go check the first pass and all the other ones where receivers were reaching back to bail him out.

I was asking because I didn't watch the game, but read through the game day thread (I know, very poor source) and then reading the article on ESPN by Wagoner.

https://www.espn.com/blog/san-francisco-49ers/post/_/id/42924/deep-ball-accuracy-all-that-separates-brock-purdy-49ers-offense-from-greatness

Sep 18, 2023 at 11:32 AM

#26059

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Originally posted by 9erReign:

Originally posted by SLCNiner:
How big a concern is the deep ball accuracy? I feel like that is the one aspect of the offense that's been missing, and if teams don't respect the deep threat, feel like it takes away from the overall potency of the offense.

Is his deep ball accuracy a recurring issue? Or just last game? Because all his accuracy was off against the Rams. Almost every throw was 2 yards off, even the short stuff. Go check the first pass and all the other ones where receivers were reaching back to bail him out.

But a fair bit of those are on throws he had to make well before the receivers came out of their breaks

Sep 18, 2023 at 11:41 AM

#26060

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Originally posted by 9erReign:

Originally posted by SLCNiner:
How big a concern is the deep ball accuracy? I feel like that is the one aspect of the offense that's been missing, and if teams don't respect the deep threat, feel like it takes away from the overall potency of the offense.

Is his deep ball accuracy a recurring issue? Or just last game? Because all his accuracy was off against the Rams. Almost every throw was 2 yards off, even the short stuff. Go check the first pass and all the other ones where receivers were reaching back to bail him out.

That's true. His decision making has been on-point, but the accuracy has been off these first two weeks. We're dead last in YAC, a stat heavily dependent on QB accuracy, so far this year after being a leader in that stat every year since 2018.

[ Edited by 49ersRing on Sep 18, 2023 at 11:43 AM ]

Sep 18, 2023 at 11:43 AM

#26061

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We've seen this deep ball theme before. I think when you have a safe game plan where a huge chunk of the low volume of passes are behind or just past the LOS and then 2-3 times a game, are asked to hit the deep lower % shot, it's off. Even the wide open ones.

It's like chipping on the chipping green for 3 hours and then heading out to tee/hole 1 and trying to hit your driver for the first time that day.

[ Edited by NCommand on Sep 18, 2023 at 11:43 AM ]

Sep 18, 2023 at 11:44 AM

#26062

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Originally posted by 49ersRing:

Originally posted by 9erReign:

Originally posted by SLCNiner:
How big a concern is the deep ball accuracy? I feel like that is the one aspect of the offense that's been missing, and if teams don't respect the deep threat, feel like it takes away from the overall potency of the offense.

Is his deep ball accuracy a recurring issue? Or just last game? Because all his accuracy was off against the Rams. Almost every throw was 2 yards off, even the short stuff. Go check the first pass and all the other ones where receivers were reaching back to bail him out.

That's true. His decision making has been on-point, but the accuracy has been off these first two weeks. We're dead last in YAC, a stat heavily dependent on QB accuracy, so far this year after being a leader in that stat every year since 2018.

Good points.

Sep 18, 2023 at 11:46 AM

#26063

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Originally posted by 49ersRing:

Originally posted by 9erReign:

Originally posted by SLCNiner:
How big a concern is the deep ball accuracy? I feel like that is the one aspect of the offense that's been missing, and if teams don't respect the deep threat, feel like it takes away from the overall potency of the offense.

Is his deep ball accuracy a recurring issue? Or just last game? Because all his accuracy was off against the Rams. Almost every throw was 2 yards off, even the short stuff. Go check the first pass and all the other ones where receivers were reaching back to bail him out.

That's true. His decision making has been on-point, but the accuracy has been off these first two weeks. We're dead last in YAC, a stat heavily dependent on QB accuracy, so far this year after being a leader in that stat every year since 2018.

To be fair both Pitt and LA were playing tight with heavy pressure causing short off balance throws.

This is the "book" on Purdy and he has been doing just fine with it. 30 2 weeks in a row.

Sep 18, 2023 at 11:46 AM

#26064

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Originally posted by NCommand:
We've seen this deep ball theme before. I think when you have a safe game plan where a huge chunk of the low volume of passes are behind or just past the LOS and then 2-3 times a game, are asked to hit the deep lower % shot, it's off. Even the wide open ones.

It's like chipping on the chipping green for 3 hours and then heading out to tee/hole 1 and trying to hit your driver for the first time that day.

its just a miscalulation. Purdy put it out in front. i think he will put a little more air on it next time

Sep 18, 2023 at 11:48 AM

#26065

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One other thing I'll add that we should watch out for... How do teams adjust to the Purdy/Shanahan tandem? How does Shanahan's playcalling evolve with Purdy?
Shanahan is largely a rhythm playcaller, so as he and Purdy log more games together... I just see them getting better as a QB/Head Coach combination.

Sep 18, 2023 at 11:57 AM

#26066

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Originally posted by Wubbie:
One other thing I'll add that we should watch out for... How do teams adjust to the Purdy/Shanahan tandem? How does Shanahan's playcalling evolve with Purdy?
Shanahan is largely a rhythm playcaller, so as he and Purdy log more games together... I just see them getting better as a QB/Head Coach combination.

It's all chess. I expect Kyle to run the ball more in general. Also, we haven't see a ton of Kittle yet imo. It looks like defenses have tried to take him away more since Purdy favored him big time last year.

I feel like Kyle has his first drive or two script to start the game, and uses that to see what the defense is trying to do to him.

Sep 18, 2023 at 12:01 PM

#26067

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Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by NCommand:
We've seen this deep ball theme before. I think when you have a safe game plan where a huge chunk of the low volume of passes are behind or just past the LOS and then 2-3 times a game, are asked to hit the deep lower % shot, it's off. Even the wide open ones.

It's like chipping on the chipping green for 3 hours and then heading out to tee/hole 1 and trying to hit your driver for the first time that day.
its just a miscalulation. Purdy put it out in front. i think he will put a little more air on it next time

The point is, it's hard to switch gears like that and the touch is a bit off...which is all it takes on a lower % target.

Sep 18, 2023 at 12:01 PM

#26068

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Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by NCommand:
We've seen this deep ball theme before. I think when you have a safe game plan where a huge chunk of the low volume of passes are behind or just past the LOS and then 2-3 times a game, are asked to hit the deep lower % shot, it's off. Even the wide open ones.

It's like chipping on the chipping green for 3 hours and then heading out to tee/hole 1 and trying to hit your driver for the first time that day.
its just a miscalulation. Purdy put it out in front. i think he will put a little more air on it next time

The point is, it's hard to switch gears like that and the touch is a bit off...which is all it takes on a lower % target.

You make a great point. So tell Kyle to toss it downfield more!

Sep 18, 2023 at 12:07 PM

#26069

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Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by NCommand:
We've seen this deep ball theme before. I think when you have a safe game plan where a huge chunk of the low volume of passes are behind or just past the LOS and then 2-3 times a game, are asked to hit the deep lower % shot, it's off. Even the wide open ones.

It's like chipping on the chipping green for 3 hours and then heading out to tee/hole 1 and trying to hit your driver for the first time that day.
its just a miscalulation. Purdy put it out in front. i think he will put a little more air on it next time

The point is, it's hard to switch gears like that and the touch is a bit off...which is all it takes on a lower % target.

Purdy has gone deep before and connected. Purdy, in this game was throwing in anticipation on almost every throw.

Sep 18, 2023 at 12:07 PM

#26070

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Originally posted by NCommand:
We've seen this deep ball theme before. I think when you have a safe game plan where a huge chunk of the low volume of passes are behind or just past the LOS and then 2-3 times a game, are asked to hit the deep lower % shot, it's off. Even the wide open ones.

It's like chipping on the chipping green for 3 hours and then heading out to tee/hole 1 and trying to hit your driver for the first time that day.

Brock's average depth of target in 2 games is 8th highest in the league at 8.9 yards. He has completed 92.9% of his passes in the 10-19 yard range. Brock has thrown 6 deep balls which ranks him 16th in the league in attempts. Only 6 of those QB's a head of him have completed higher than 40% of their deep passes.

[ Edited by YACBros85 on Sep 18, 2023 at 12:08 PM ]