QB Brock Purdy Thread

Originally posted by KowboyKiller:
One thing no one in the media talks about in regards to BP is the fact that Kyle's had a full training camp and off season to mold and design the offense around his strengths and limit his weaknesses after having 8 games to learn about that.

Last year BP came in to an offense that was meant for Jimmy, who wasn't nearly as mobile or willing to throw outside the numbers or downfield. Now that Kyle's had time to pour over the film, rethink everything and work with BP for a whole training camp, do we really expect the offense to be the same? People argue "Oh, well the NFL has TAPE on him now." as one of their arguments to why he'll regress. Well, I've got some news for them, Kyle has tape on him too.

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by KowboyKiller:
One thing no one in the media talks about in regards to BP is the fact that Kyle's had a full training camp and off season to mold and design the offense around his strengths and limit his weaknesses after having 8 games to learn about that.

Last year BP came in to an offense that was meant for Jimmy, who wasn't nearly as mobile or willing to throw outside the numbers or downfield. Now that Kyle's had time to pour over the film, rethink everything and work with BP for a whole training camp, do we really expect the offense to be the same? People argue "Oh, well the NFL has TAPE on him now." as one of their arguments to why he'll regress. Well, I've got some news for them, Kyle has tape on him too.

I don't think much will change in terms of play design for Brock that was already in place for Jimmy. The main differences were in the playstyle, not so much the plays. On top of the upgrade in mobility and escapability, Brock was more likely to look downfield and not simply take what's in front of him like Jimmy did. I think the biggest change for the offense is having a full offseason where CMC can be integrated into the offense.

Yeah that too.

I guess my point is that having worked with Purdy and seeing him play the end of last season and then reviewing everything that happened would give Kyle a different perspective once training camp rolled around, and so his designs and approach would certainly change in TC, trying out new things that he wouldnt with Jimmy to find out what works and what doesn't with BP, who now has 8 games of experience and time to process everything himself. He's no rookie 3rd stringer who's just trying to make the team now.

I think these foundations that weren't present last year will lead to significant improvements in the offense. But the way everyone talks about the 49ers it's like they think the QB is just a lego you snap on to the rest of it cuz Kyle and cuz weaponz.

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by GoreGoreGore:

Originally posted by Montana:

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:
I am as big a Purdy fan as anyone, but a generational talent? Lets pump the breaks shall we?

You can pump your breaks..as BP flies on by and wins at least three SBs lol.

Geno better than Purdy? Pretty sure BP is undefeated so far against SEA lol. And with a broken rib. Brock makes Geno look like a has been even when the guy is injured. Truth lol

Ugh... who's even talking about Geno

Probably the 'experts' on ESPN who never played a down in their life

I guess... I was referring to the posts above

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

Originally posted by Giedi:

Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:

Originally posted by krizay:
Are you serious right now? Your joking right?

Well you see, if George Kittle is out there that makes the QB read defenses better, process faster, play with more poise in the face of a rush, throw more accurately… etc.

Yeah, you don't have to have everyone out there in order to play good. If Brock needs all pros at every position just to have a good game, then he himself is trash.

having good talent around you makes it easier, but he can still play well if dwelley is in there, or anyone.

What some fail to realize that even if a play doesn't work, doesn't mean the QB didn't play well.

That's why I never understood that argument for Trey. Trey struggled to do the little things right, that makes a qb play well.

The argument for Trey was that if/when he got the little things, he had a LOT more than that to add.

But I will die on the hill and say Trey is not here for one reason: Brock Purdy. Brock Purdy played like a Pro Bowl QB at a fraction of the cost. That short circuited any desire for the team to wait for Trey to develop. That's BY FAR the most important factor here.

I pretty much agree on this point.

The Trey injuries did also play a role. Having said that, Purdy looks like a generational talent. If he can handle BlitzBurg the way I think he can, he'll be setting more records and breaking more records this Sunday. CMC is going to be a big part of calming that blitzing defense down. I also think Brock's arm strength is being underrated. The blitz will force Brock to throw deep in this game.

I am as big a Purdy fan as anyone, but a generational talent? Lets pump the breaks shall we?

You must have missed the fact that a *rookie* facing a defensive team that was near tops in the league in creating turnovers - never threw an interception in that game - *as a ROOKIE.*

Some dude named *Joe* threw a couple against the same team in 1981, by the way that Joe dude wasn't a rookie. So I have some facts to back up my opinion. Oh by the way - both games were playoff games, not a run of the mill regular season game.

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by KowboyKiller:
One thing no one in the media talks about in regards to BP is the fact that Kyle's had a full training camp and off season to mold and design the offense around his strengths and limit his weaknesses after having 8 games to learn about that.

Last year BP came in to an offense that was meant for Jimmy, who wasn't nearly as mobile or willing to throw outside the numbers or downfield. Now that Kyle's had time to pour over the film, rethink everything and work with BP for a whole training camp, do we really expect the offense to be the same? People argue "Oh, well the NFL has TAPE on him now." as one of their arguments to why he'll regress. Well, I've got some news for them, Kyle has tape on him too.

I don't think much will change in terms of play design for Brock that was already in place for Jimmy. The main differences were in the playstyle, not so much the plays. On top of the upgrade in mobility and escapability, Brock was more likely to look downfield and not simply take what's in front of him like Jimmy did. I think the biggest change for the offense is having a full offseason where CMC can be integrated into the offense.

Very good points and yeah, BP sees/reads the field better than Jimmy, it comes very naturally, rather than sometimes forced looking from Jimbo.

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by KowboyKiller:
One thing no one in the media talks about in regards to BP is the fact that Kyle's had a full training camp and off season to mold and design the offense around his strengths and limit his weaknesses after having 8 games to learn about that.

Last year BP came in to an offense that was meant for Jimmy, who wasn't nearly as mobile or willing to throw outside the numbers or downfield. Now that Kyle's had time to pour over the film, rethink everything and work with BP for a whole training camp, do we really expect the offense to be the same? People argue "Oh, well the NFL has TAPE on him now." as one of their arguments to why he'll regress. Well, I've got some news for them, Kyle has tape on him too.

I don't think much will change in terms of play design for Brock that was already in place for Jimmy. The main differences were in the playstyle, not so much the plays. On top of the upgrade in mobility and escapability, Brock was more likely to look downfield and not simply take what's in front of him like Jimmy did. I think the biggest change for the offense is having a full offseason where CMC can be integrated into the offense.

Agree to a certain extent, however I think about 10% to 15% will change in *play design* for Brock simply because he's more mobile. I can see more scramble drills and option-routs vs Jimmy and Trey. Agree with you on playstyle, I think it will tilt more towards the pass than the run in Purdy's case vs Jimmy's case, although it will still hover around 50% pass/run mixture.

I think the biggest changes will be at the TE position, Kyle drafted two in this draft cycle. I don't think that was by accident, I think he has specific plans with the TE position regarding Brock's preferred playstyle.

Originally posted by KowboyKiller:

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by KowboyKiller:
One thing no one in the media talks about in regards to BP is the fact that Kyle's had a full training camp and off season to mold and design the offense around his strengths and limit his weaknesses after having 8 games to learn about that.

Last year BP came in to an offense that was meant for Jimmy, who wasn't nearly as mobile or willing to throw outside the numbers or downfield. Now that Kyle's had time to pour over the film, rethink everything and work with BP for a whole training camp, do we really expect the offense to be the same? People argue "Oh, well the NFL has TAPE on him now." as one of their arguments to why he'll regress. Well, I've got some news for them, Kyle has tape on him too.

I don't think much will change in terms of play design for Brock that was already in place for Jimmy. The main differences were in the playstyle, not so much the plays. On top of the upgrade in mobility and escapability, Brock was more likely to look downfield and not simply take what's in front of him like Jimmy did. I think the biggest change for the offense is having a full offseason where CMC can be integrated into the offense.

Yeah that too.

I guess my point is that having worked with Purdy and seeing him play the end of last season and then reviewing everything that happened would give Kyle a different perspective once training camp rolled around, and so his designs and approach would certainly change in TC, trying out new things that he wouldnt with Jimmy to find out what works and what doesn't with BP, who now has 8 games of experience and time to process everything himself. He's no rookie 3rd stringer now.

I think these foundations that weren't present last year will lead to significant improvements in the offense. But the way everyone talks about the 49ers it's like they think the QB is just a lego you snap on to the rest of it cuz Kyle and cuz weaponz.

For sure Kyle and Brock have gotten together to talk about which plays Brock is most comfortable with, and uncomfortable with - what kind of reads and formations Brock likes. That most likely did not take place in the 2022 offseason since he was QB3. I guess we'll have to wait and see if there are any big differences. I don't anticipate many noticeable pass play design differences, but it's possible there are and it's just not noticeable unless you are in the meeting room. But to your point, a full offseason with Brock as QB1 should result in Brock feeling even more comfortable with what Kyle dials up as the two learn to work with one another.

I also don't think the logic of "the NFL has tape on Brock" will make much of a difference. Brock has been blitzed and seen disguises, and has succeeded in both cases. From what I've seen so far, there isn't any one specific thing he struggles with outside of the what most QBs typically struggle with - pressure in his face with 7 defenders in coverage. All QBs would have a tough time with that.

Originally posted by Giedi:
Agree to a certain extent, however I think about 10% to 15% will change in *play design* for Brock simply because he's more mobile. I can see more scramble drills and option-routs vs Jimmy and Trey. Agree with you on playstyle, I think it will tilt more towards the pass than the run in Purdy's case vs Jimmy's case, although it will still hover around 50% pass/run mixture.

I think the biggest changes will be at the TE position, Kyle drafted two in this draft cycle. I don't think that was by accident, I think he has specific plans with the TE position regarding Brock's preferred playstyle.

This. If kittle stays healthy - he'll have a career year. It'll set records, purdy loves to lean on the TE, and rightfully so. This offense has so many weapons that most teams weak points will be whoever is attempting to cover kittle, IMO.

Originally posted by KowboyKiller:
One thing no one in the media talks about in regards to BP is the fact that Kyle's had a full training camp and off season to mold and design the offense around his strengths and limit his weaknesses after having 8 games to learn about that.

Last year BP came in to an offense that was meant for Jimmy, who wasn't nearly as mobile or willing to throw outside the numbers or downfield. Now that Kyle's had time to pour over the film, rethink everything and work with BP for a whole training camp, do we really expect the offense to be the same? People argue "Oh, well the NFL has TAPE on him now." as one of their arguments to why he'll regress. Well, I've got some news for them, Kyle has tape on him too.

Maybe, but it didn't exactly help Jimmy to have that full offseason with Kyle after 2017. Purdy had the offense humming last year, so I hope they don't change much in an attempt to fix something that isn't broken.

Originally posted by Memphis9er:

Originally posted by mayo49:

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by mayo49:

Originally posted by tankle104:
I'm Brock hard right now. My penis might start taking over for Mayo. I even call my girl Brock now. Muahahah

Hahaha glad to see you're back, my man. I was wondering where you've been!

Been in Georgia since end of last season, spending time with my daughters and enjoying my newest granddaughter. Missed all of ya'll, lol. Sorry, been in the South the past couple of months. Glad to be back with my boys. Thanks for the warm welcome back from everybody.

Congrats and welcome back to the madhouse!

Yeah, like the song goes, got to live off the wall!

Originally posted by JoseCortez:
Purdy is a captain his first year as starter.

Trey not a captain when he was anointed starter.

This just tells you either how much shannahan thinks of purdy, or how he really thought of lance.

Players vote for captains usually.

Originally posted by Memphis9er:

Originally posted by JoseCortez:
Purdy is a captain his first year as starter.

Trey not a captain when he was anointed starter.

This just tells you either how much shannahan thinks of purdy, or how he really thought of lance.

Players vote for captains usually.

Yeah, it says more about how the players feel towards them than kyle. The players vote on captains, not the coaches.

Originally posted by 49ersRing:

Originally posted by KowboyKiller:
One thing no one in the media talks about in regards to BP is the fact that Kyle's had a full training camp and off season to mold and design the offense around his strengths and limit his weaknesses after having 8 games to learn about that.

Last year BP came in to an offense that was meant for Jimmy, who wasn't nearly as mobile or willing to throw outside the numbers or downfield. Now that Kyle's had time to pour over the film, rethink everything and work with BP for a whole training camp, do we really expect the offense to be the same? People argue "Oh, well the NFL has TAPE on him now." as one of their arguments to why he'll regress. Well, I've got some news for them, Kyle has tape on him too.

Maybe, but it didn't exactly help Jimmy to have that full offseason with Kyle after 2017. Purdy had the offense humming last year, so I hope they don't change much in an attempt to fix something that isn't broken.

Jimmy inexplicably played in God-mode his first 5 games with us. Then...he had time to digest the playbook in the offseason and slowed down a bit.
Brock Purdy spent months studying/digesting the playbook and then hit the ground running when given the opportunity.
I chalk that difference up to the intangibles that BP possesses.

This year...I won't be surprised if he takes a minute getting his confidence (in his body) back. He could be a little tentative until he gets a couple games under his belt. Once that phase passes, I fully expect him to continue his growth in the position. He's just getting started.

Can't wait for Brock to lay it down on Sunday! I hope the weather is solid and not murky. I want to see the boys be able to sling it around

i hope Brock becomes aware of this. I want our guys fired up for this game and ready to make a statement