QB Brock Purdy Thread

Originally posted by boast:

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by NYniner85:
At this point Trey and Sam will both be on the roster, they don't even need to declare who's the backup with the 3 QB rule.

Brock is QB1 and should get a couple more live reps imo. It's not like he's a seasoned vet or anything. Then toss Lance/Sam in the rest of the game

NY, you are incorrect here. The 3rd QB has to be designated. Everyone will know who QB2 is and QB3 is cuz we have to declare it, if we want to use our own rule.

Yeah, I'm still a little hazy on the specifics to the rule but don't all three have to be on the 53 man roster but the third doesn't have to be "active" on game day, just designated? Or am I remembering it wrong

i believe the 3rd QB does NOT count against the game day active 46.

So I wonder who will be inactive on gameday, that'll be interesting.

also will have big impacts financially for someone like Darnold where he has a lot of incentives built in, probably loses hundreds of thousands if he isn't active.

idk how lances works since it's rookie scale. Im pretty sure his contract is fully guaranteed.

yeah sam being active on game day can earn him up to a $1M.

Damn, I was just looking at cap hits. Deshaun watson has a $64M cap hit in 2024,2025,2026. That is outrageous. Lol entire contract is fully guaranteed too. Terrible business by the browns.

i hope when Purdy is up, that he gets paid but does a more team friendly deal. I hope it's something like what Brady and Mahomes did. They can earn so much off the field if he does well playing that it makes sense to make sure he has a good roster around him. He will be worth more in endorsements and can still compete for a super bowl

the zip looks good to me. 😎

Originally posted by tankle104:
Damn, I was just looking at cap hits. Deshaun watson has a $64M cap hit in 2024,2025,2026. That is outrageous. Lol entire contract is fully guaranteed too. Terrible business by the browns.

i hope when Purdy is up, that he gets paid but does a more team friendly deal. I hope it's something like what Brady and Mahomes did. They can earn so much off the field if he does well playing that it makes sense to make sure he has a good roster around him. He will be worth more in endorsements and can still compete for a super bowl

Yup. Even in his situation which is pretty extreme, the club finds a way. He was set to count $55m this year. He is only counting $19m. They restructured $36m. I expect they will keep kicking the can down the road.

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by tankle104:
Damn, I was just looking at cap hits. Deshaun watson has a $64M cap hit in 2024,2025,2026. That is outrageous. Lol entire contract is fully guaranteed too. Terrible business by the browns.

i hope when Purdy is up, that he gets paid but does a more team friendly deal. I hope it's something like what Brady and Mahomes did. They can earn so much off the field if he does well playing that it makes sense to make sure he has a good roster around him. He will be worth more in endorsements and can still compete for a super bowl

Yup. Even in his situation which is pretty extreme, the club finds a way. He was set to count $55m this year. He is only counting $19m. They restructured $36m. I expect they will keep kicking the can down the road.

They're probably going to keep restructuring it and having desd cap space to him for the next 6+ years after his contract is over. Lol

i was a big watson fan when he was coming out of the draft, really wanted us to get him, but now I hope he keeps sucking.

Originally posted by tankle104:
They're probably going to keep restructuring it and having desd cap space to him for the next 6+ years after his contract is over. Lol

i was a big watson fan when he was coming out of the draft, really wanted us to get him, but now I hope he keeps sucking.

Like him as a player. Curious to see if he rebounds after the suspension last year and all the time off.

He's a garbage human being though. Can't root for him.

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:

Originally posted by tankle104:
They're probably going to keep restructuring it and having desd cap space to him for the next 6+ years after his contract is over. Lol

i was a big watson fan when he was coming out of the draft, really wanted us to get him, but now I hope he keeps sucking.

Like him as a player. Curious to see if he rebounds after the suspension last year and all the time off.

He's a garbage human being though. Can't root for him.

Same, used to really like him. Loved him in college and was hoping we were going to draft him. Now he just makes me sick.

i also don't like the ownership of the browns, so I like to see them keep failing too. I typically don't root for people to fail but I want this whole thing to blow up in their face.

Other teams were reportedly pissed off about the fully guaranteed contract they gave him. Lol it created situations like the one baltimore had with Lamar where he wanted fully guaranteed.

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by boast:

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by NYniner85:
At this point Trey and Sam will both be on the roster, they don't even need to declare who's the backup with the 3 QB rule.

Brock is QB1 and should get a couple more live reps imo. It's not like he's a seasoned vet or anything. Then toss Lance/Sam in the rest of the game

NY, you are incorrect here. The 3rd QB has to be designated. Everyone will know who QB2 is and QB3 is cuz we have to declare it, if we want to use our own rule.

Yeah, I'm still a little hazy on the specifics to the rule but don't all three have to be on the 53 man roster but the third doesn't have to be "active" on game day, just designated? Or am I remembering it wrong

i believe the 3rd QB does NOT count against the game day active 46.

So I wonder who will be inactive on gameday, that'll be interesting.

also will have big impacts financially for someone like Darnold where he has a lot of incentives built in, probably loses hundreds of thousands if he isn't active.

idk how lances works since it's rookie scale. Im pretty sure his contract is fully guaranteed.

yeah sam being active on game day can earn him up to a $1M.

Details on new 49ers QB Sam Darnold's one-year, $4.5 million deal.

• $1 million signing bonus.
• $2.45 million base.
• $1 million in per-game roster bonsues.
• $500K workout bonus.
• $7 million in incentives (tied to playtime, wins, QB rating).

— Albert Breer (@AlbertBreer) March 14, 2023

Once they knew lance was staying after the draft they never should have signed darnold.

From the last game you can tell they are fairly close so we should have never signed darnold. Even if you think he's slightly better than lance he's not worth the 5-12 million that could have gone elsewhere better.

That could have been another veteran edge across from bosa or a few scrub linemen to throw into the mix.

Originally posted by BoldRedandGold:

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by boast:

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by NYniner85:
At this point Trey and Sam will both be on the roster, they don't even need to declare who's the backup with the 3 QB rule.

Brock is QB1 and should get a couple more live reps imo. It's not like he's a seasoned vet or anything. Then toss Lance/Sam in the rest of the game

NY, you are incorrect here. The 3rd QB has to be designated. Everyone will know who QB2 is and QB3 is cuz we have to declare it, if we want to use our own rule.

Yeah, I'm still a little hazy on the specifics to the rule but don't all three have to be on the 53 man roster but the third doesn't have to be "active" on game day, just designated? Or am I remembering it wrong

i believe the 3rd QB does NOT count against the game day active 46.

So I wonder who will be inactive on gameday, that'll be interesting.

also will have big impacts financially for someone like Darnold where he has a lot of incentives built in, probably loses hundreds of thousands if he isn't active.

idk how lances works since it's rookie scale. Im pretty sure his contract is fully guaranteed.

yeah sam being active on game day can earn him up to a $1M.

Details on new 49ers QB Sam Darnold's one-year, $4.5 million deal.

• $1 million signing bonus.
• $2.45 million base.
• $1 million in per-game roster bonsues.
• $500K workout bonus.
• $7 million in incentives (tied to playtime, wins, QB rating).

— Albert Breer (@AlbertBreer) March 14, 2023

Once they knew lance was staying after the draft they never should have signed darnold.

From the last game you can tell they are fairly close so we should have never signed darnold. Even if you think he's slightly better than lance he's not worth the 5-12 million that could have gone elsewhere better.

That could have been another veteran edge across from bosa or a few scrub linemen to throw into the mix.

It's funny how quickly people forget… Lance and darnold haven't looked close, at all. Not even in the same realm. Darnolds been consistently good and protected the ball. Lance has had 2 good drives. The second to last drive had some really sketchy and risky throws that were just lucky they weren't turnovers.

You have to look at the entire body of work and not just what makes you feel good. Lance has been really bad outside of those two drives. So what, 6/8 drives? I'm as happy as anykne for Lance pulling it off last week but you have to be delusional if you think he's played as well as darnold.

Originally posted by BoldRedandGold:
Once they knew lance was staying after the draft they never should have signed darnold.

From the last game you can tell they are fairly close so we should have never signed darnold. Even if you think he's slightly better than lance he's not worth the 5-12 million that could have gone elsewhere better.

That could have been another veteran edge across from bosa or a few scrub linemen to throw into the mix.

We had 2 seriously injured QBs in march

Purdy is the 2nd ever NFL QB to have the procedure (1st was Nick Mullens)

We are lucky both appear to have healed back to 100%

Darnold was an expensive insurance clause to cover our ass if things went badly

Originally posted by Fanaticofnfl:
I'm sorry but I have to disagree with you on the bold. There were 8 quarterbacks drafted before Purdy and 261 picks.

If the Steelers—who drafted TWO quarterbacks in that draft—end up with only a meh QB and someone who they instantly cut, when they could've had a franchise QB both times, it's going to be a big black eye on a front office that is known for having a robust drafting process. At least someone is going to be held responsible if it plays out that way.

Everything else I agree with, and of course my statement/example is highly contingent on Purdy turning into the guy and Kenny Pickett fading after a few years, but it's a bold statement I stand behind.

The entire league had a similar evaluation on Purdy, which is why he was still around to be picked Mr Irrelevant. Even the 49ers who liked him weren't willing to use anything earlier than the last pick in the draft to get him.

If he works out, that's not going to fall on anyone, that's a lightning strikes scenario. There may very well have been scouts in other buildings that were standing on the table for Purdy in the 6th and 7th rounds and were ignored but you're not going to fire any GM over it, just like teams weren't firing people for letting Tony Romo get to UDFA or Brady ending up in the 6th. No matter how good of a talent evaluator you might be, you can't account for certain guys who are going to ball out and play at a high level even with everything stacked against them.

You're always going to miss on someone, the key is looking back, seeing how you missed on a guy and adjusting your approach in the future which is why I believe you saw several QB's go earlier than they might otherwise have gone in this most recent draft. A guy like Aidan O'Connell is a direct beneficiary of Purdy coming in hot as a rookie. 24 year old QB with no amazing traits ended up going in the 4th round. A year earlier he would have been lucky to be drafted at all IMO.

Originally posted by tankle104:
It's funny how quickly people forget… Lance and darnold haven't looked close, at all. Not even in the same realm. Darnolds been consistently good and protected the ball. Lance has had 2 good drives. The second to last drive had some really sketchy and risky throws that were just lucky they weren't turnovers.

You have to look at the entire body of work and not just what makes you feel good. Lance has been really bad outside of those two drives. So what, 6/8 drives? I'm as happy as anykne for Lance pulling it off last week but you have to be delusional if you think he's played as well as darnold.

Just posted this in another thread but it provides Darnold context

Raiders game
1/6 drives were 3 and out
*had 1 play turnover and 3 play turnover i didnt count
1/6 drives generated scoring opportinities (missed FG)

Broncos game
2/5 drives were 3 and out
1/5 drives generated scoring opportunities (TD on final drive)

Not lighting the preseason on fire...Darnold just "looks" like he knows what he is doing

Lance on the other hand had a great 2 min drill v Raiders (missed FG) and comeback drives v Broncos (TD then FG)

Despite all the mistakes and bad looks we see Lance is generating more scoring opportunities when he is at QB

Originally posted by BoldRedandGold:
Once they knew lance was staying after the draft they never should have signed darnold.

From the last game you can tell they are fairly close so we should have never signed darnold. Even if you think he's slightly better than lance he's not worth the 5-12 million that could have gone elsewhere better.

That could have been another veteran edge across from bosa or a few scrub linemen to throw into the mix.

They had absolutely no idea how long it was going to take for Purdy to fully recover. You're not going to put all your chips on Lance, who has fewer passing attempts in his entire life than most NFL QB's had in all of last season, and just hope for the best.

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by BoldRedandGold:

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by boast:

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by NYniner85:
At this point Trey and Sam will both be on the roster, they don't even need to declare who's the backup with the 3 QB rule.

Brock is QB1 and should get a couple more live reps imo. It's not like he's a seasoned vet or anything. Then toss Lance/Sam in the rest of the game

NY, you are incorrect here. The 3rd QB has to be designated. Everyone will know who QB2 is and QB3 is cuz we have to declare it, if we want to use our own rule.

Yeah, I'm still a little hazy on the specifics to the rule but don't all three have to be on the 53 man roster but the third doesn't have to be "active" on game day, just designated? Or am I remembering it wrong

i believe the 3rd QB does NOT count against the game day active 46.

So I wonder who will be inactive on gameday, that'll be interesting.

also will have big impacts financially for someone like Darnold where he has a lot of incentives built in, probably loses hundreds of thousands if he isn't active.

idk how lances works since it's rookie scale. Im pretty sure his contract is fully guaranteed.

yeah sam being active on game day can earn him up to a $1M.

Details on new 49ers QB Sam Darnold's one-year, $4.5 million deal.

• $1 million signing bonus.
• $2.45 million base.
• $1 million in per-game roster bonsues.
• $500K workout bonus.
• $7 million in incentives (tied to playtime, wins, QB rating).

— Albert Breer (@AlbertBreer) March 14, 2023

Once they knew lance was staying after the draft they never should have signed darnold.

From the last game you can tell they are fairly close so we should have never signed darnold. Even if you think he's slightly better than lance he's not worth the 5-12 million that could have gone elsewhere better.

That could have been another veteran edge across from bosa or a few scrub linemen to throw into the mix.

It's funny how quickly people forget… Lance and darnold haven't looked close, at all. Not even in the same realm. Darnolds been consistently good and protected the ball. Lance has had 2 good drives. The second to last drive had some really sketchy and risky throws that were just lucky they weren't turnovers.

You have to look at the entire body of work and not just what makes you feel good. Lance has been really bad outside of those two drives. So what, 6/8 drives? I'm as happy as anykne for Lance pulling it off last week but you have to be delusional if you think he's played as well as darnold.

Yeah lance played at least backup level in his actual NFL games. He's only looked pathetic during the raiders game and first couple drives of the last game.

The coaches should know what they have. They aren't that far apart which makes darnold contract throwing money down the toilet.

It's another knee jerk reaction to Johnson being pathetic in the championship game just like the lance trade was a knee jerk not well thought reaction.

Originally posted by BoldRedandGold:

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by BoldRedandGold:

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by boast:

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by NYniner85:
At this point Trey and Sam will both be on the roster, they don't even need to declare who's the backup with the 3 QB rule.

Brock is QB1 and should get a couple more live reps imo. It's not like he's a seasoned vet or anything. Then toss Lance/Sam in the rest of the game

NY, you are incorrect here. The 3rd QB has to be designated. Everyone will know who QB2 is and QB3 is cuz we have to declare it, if we want to use our own rule.

Yeah, I'm still a little hazy on the specifics to the rule but don't all three have to be on the 53 man roster but the third doesn't have to be "active" on game day, just designated? Or am I remembering it wrong

i believe the 3rd QB does NOT count against the game day active 46.

So I wonder who will be inactive on gameday, that'll be interesting.

also will have big impacts financially for someone like Darnold where he has a lot of incentives built in, probably loses hundreds of thousands if he isn't active.

idk how lances works since it's rookie scale. Im pretty sure his contract is fully guaranteed.

yeah sam being active on game day can earn him up to a $1M.

Details on new 49ers QB Sam Darnold's one-year, $4.5 million deal.

• $1 million signing bonus.
• $2.45 million base.
• $1 million in per-game roster bonsues.
• $500K workout bonus.
• $7 million in incentives (tied to playtime, wins, QB rating).

— Albert Breer (@AlbertBreer) March 14, 2023

Once they knew lance was staying after the draft they never should have signed darnold.

From the last game you can tell they are fairly close so we should have never signed darnold. Even if you think he's slightly better than lance he's not worth the 5-12 million that could have gone elsewhere better.

That could have been another veteran edge across from bosa or a few scrub linemen to throw into the mix.

It's funny how quickly people forget… Lance and darnold haven't looked close, at all. Not even in the same realm. Darnolds been consistently good and protected the ball. Lance has had 2 good drives. The second to last drive had some really sketchy and risky throws that were just lucky they weren't turnovers.

You have to look at the entire body of work and not just what makes you feel good. Lance has been really bad outside of those two drives. So what, 6/8 drives? I'm as happy as anykne for Lance pulling it off last week but you have to be delusional if you think he's played as well as darnold.

Yeah lance played at least backup level in his actual NFL games. He's only looked pathetic during the raiders game and first couple drives of the last game.

The coaches should know what they have. They aren't that far apart which makes darnold contract throwing money down the toilet.

It's another knee jerk reaction to Johnson being pathetic in the championship game just like the lance trade was a knee jerk not well thought reaction.

Are you saying Trey only looked pathetic in the majority of this pre-season thus far?