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Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:
Originally posted by libertyforever:
Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:
We're getting to the point where rust is no longer a viable explanation for the INTs. Hopefully that gets cleaned up, because it happened against the Raiders defense too.

EDIT: referring to training camp INTs. There have been more than I would have expected from Purdy had he not been coming off of an arm injury. So, given that some time has passed since he returned to practice, in the next couple of weeks if that doesn't get better I'm going to start worrying. Yes, Jimmy threw 5 INTs in a row in 2019, so it's not necessarily the end of the world. But it will concern me a bit if that doesn't improve in the next two weeks. I think by then he will have had enough reps to be fully back into things.

Already? If my math is correct, it was only 16 days after being fully cleared, do you really expect him to be anywhere near 100%?

The interceptions aren't happening because of his arm, I don't think. It has nothing to do with his physical status and more to do with his lack of practice. At least I hope.

I don't think the Int were because of his arm either. But he basically missed all of the mini camps and other trainings that QB typically go through in the off-season. Instead, he was focusing on rehab and ramp up program until the start of training camp. He has to be rusty.
Originally posted by captveg:
Originally posted by tankle104:
Originally posted by captveg:
Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:
Originally posted by tankle104:
Wasn't he like three time SB winner by the time marino arrived there? He went to like five super bowls, had the 1972 undefeated team. If I'm not mistaking, that 1972 team was led by our current QB coach's dad (brian Griese).

Yea they went to 3 in a row and won 2 (lost the first one).

He also won the NFL championship as HC of the 1968 Baltimore Colts (but lost the SB to the AFL Jets).

Offense was not the issue with the Dolphins. They didn't have the defense to consistently beat the other big AFC teams in the 80s/90s (Browns/Broncos/Bengals/Bills).

The 1984 team that beat the marino led dolphins in the super bowl was amazing, only lost one game. It was to the Steelers and it was a ridiculous call by the refs. Robbed us or an undefeated season!

Oh, definitely. Sucks for Marino that his best team went up against such a dominant 49er team. But I was also speaking as to why they couldn't get back after that. Even if they didn't lose to the underdog Patriots in the next year's AFC CG they would have faced the 1985 Bears in the SB, an equally difficult task, though they had given the Bears their only loss that year.

The Dolphins struggled to get back to the playoffs for a handful of years after that because their defense was bad, especially against other good AFC teams like the ones I mentioned. The only other AFC CG Marino played in was the 1992 game against the Bills. They also lost to the Bills a couple other times in the Divisional and Wild Card Playoffs from 1989-1995.

This was in an era when defenses really did win championships. Lol the 1985 bears D you need mentioned was awesome. That team was prototype ground and pound with Walter Payton and a dominant defense. The rule changes have made it harder for those kind of constructed teams to win these days (harbaugh type football).

the defense for the dolphins must of been pretty bad because the AFC was weak in that era compared to the NFC.
Originally posted by libertyforever:
Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:
Originally posted by libertyforever:
Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:
We're getting to the point where rust is no longer a viable explanation for the INTs. Hopefully that gets cleaned up, because it happened against the Raiders defense too.

EDIT: referring to training camp INTs. There have been more than I would have expected from Purdy had he not been coming off of an arm injury. So, given that some time has passed since he returned to practice, in the next couple of weeks if that doesn't get better I'm going to start worrying. Yes, Jimmy threw 5 INTs in a row in 2019, so it's not necessarily the end of the world. But it will concern me a bit if that doesn't improve in the next two weeks. I think by then he will have had enough reps to be fully back into things.

Already? If my math is correct, it was only 16 days after being fully cleared, do you really expect him to be anywhere near 100%?

The interceptions aren't happening because of his arm, I don't think. It has nothing to do with his physical status and more to do with his lack of practice. At least I hope.

I don't think the Int were because of his arm either. But he basically missed all of the mini camps and other trainings that QB typically go through in the off-season. Instead, he was focusing on rehab and ramp up program until the start of training camp. He has to be rusty.

In any event, I get sitting him for week one, because the other starters aren't out there and you don't want to re-injure him. But he needs some playing time before week 1. So do Lance and Darnold, so stop giving Allen reps. Give Purdy Q1 and let Darnold and Lance split the last two, and in week 3 give him two quarters.
Now you guys see why we need Brock_STAR?

Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:
In any event, I get sitting him for week one, because the other starters aren't out there and you don't want to re-injure him. But he needs some playing time before week 1. So do Lance and Darnold, so stop giving Allen reps. Give Purdy Q1 and let Darnold and Lance split the last two, and in week 3 give him two quarters.

I think that's a big reason why he got so many4 reps with the 1s during the last day of joint practice. They ones got like nearly 40 reps in, that's great practice. A few turnover drives and a few touchdown drives.

idk how coach Kyle will do it from here on out but we can really look at the second day of joint practice as Purdy's pre season game, IMO.
Originally posted by tankle104:
Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:
In any event, I get sitting him for week one, because the other starters aren't out there and you don't want to re-injure him. But he needs some playing time before week 1. So do Lance and Darnold, so stop giving Allen reps. Give Purdy Q1 and let Darnold and Lance split the last two, and in week 3 give him two quarters.

I think that's a big reason why he got so many4 reps with the 1s during the last day of joint practice. They ones got like nearly 40 reps in, that's great practice. A few turnover drives and a few touchdown drives.

idk how coach Kyle will do it from here on out but we can really look at the second day of joint practice as Purdy's pre season game, IMO.

That's a good point, but it's still not quite the same thing as real game action. I'd still like to see him play some in the second game and get at least a half in the third. If not in the second game, at least give him lots of reps the third game.
Originally posted by tankle104:
If you feel disrespected by that, then that's a personal problem. Lol not mine. Very strange thing to say.

maybe I just want to shoot the sh!t with the boys on here. Maybe They have cool insight, stories, or facts. To share. Not every thing on here needs to be researched. We can talk to each other like normal people.

It wasn't your post, man. You didn't write anything wrong. We've been getting many youngsters in our forum and I think that's a good thing but we should, as much as possible, be more objective than emotional and personal with what we have to say. Anyway, we're all fans regardless of age.
Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:
Originally posted by tankle104:
Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:
In any event, I get sitting him for week one, because the other starters aren't out there and you don't want to re-injure him. But he needs some playing time before week 1. So do Lance and Darnold, so stop giving Allen reps. Give Purdy Q1 and let Darnold and Lance split the last two, and in week 3 give him two quarters.

I think that's a big reason why he got so many4 reps with the 1s during the last day of joint practice. They ones got like nearly 40 reps in, that's great practice. A few turnover drives and a few touchdown drives.

idk how coach Kyle will do it from here on out but we can really look at the second day of joint practice as Purdy's pre season game, IMO.

That's a good point, but it's still not quite the same thing as real game action. I'd still like to see him play some in the second game and get at least a half in the third. If not in the second game, at least give him lots of reps the third game.

I think joint practice is actually better than preseason games. Teams aren't worried about giving others teams film, so teams can open up their whole playbook.

Also, it is not like Brock would jitter in front of crowds.
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Originally posted by tankle104:
Originally posted by SLCNiner:
Originally posted by captveg:
Originally posted by BOI49er:
Originally posted by tankle104:
Originally posted by BOI49er:
Originally posted by tankle104:
Originally posted by Furlow:
Originally posted by FredFlintstone:
Originally posted by Bay2Bay9erAllday:

Interesting

Not once since Kyle has been here has he ever talked up a qb let alone from his play calls the way he talks about Purdy

Or let his QB throw on 4th and long with a 10 point lead like he did against Washington lol.
In that new article, Kyle talks about Brock made him so confident that he was calling plays differently. That's awesome. Most of us recognized that - we were actually seeing this offense at it's true potential, it was beautiful.

Yeah, sure, but we still need to get more "arm talent" if we want to compete with the good quarterbacks.

Reminds me of Walsh before the 1984 Super Bowl "how are we going to compete with Dan Marino and his amazing arm…."

Help me here. How many Championships did his arm talent win? Of course, he never had a good coach. I remember Randy Cross saying after the game, "The wrong offense showed up". But Wait, our quarterback fell to the third round because he didn't have "arm talent". Yeah, must have just been a fluke. That's got to be his only one.

Headwork makes quarterbacks, and teams that properly value headwork in quarterbacks over chasing brawn.

WTF?

Marino had Don Shula as his coach through the 1995 season, who won more games than any HC in NFL history.

Never had a good coach my ass.

There are a lot of youngsters on this board. Shula was as decorated a HC as the league has ever seen.

Wasn't he like three time SB winner by the time marino arrived there? He went to like five super bowls, had the 1972 undefeated team. If I'm not mistaking, that 1972 team was led by our current QB coach's dad (brian Griese).

Bob Griese never had a great arm either. Also 6-1 like Brock.

Griese threw the football only when he had to. But he threw it very, very well. In his rookie season, 1967, he completed 50.2 percent of his passes, 15 for touchdowns, and set an American Football League record by throwing 122 straight passes without an interception. A decade later, in 1977, Griese led the National Football League with 22 TD passes, 12 of them to Nat Moore.
But over the years, the 6-foot-1-inch, 190-pound Griese was basically the general of the Dolphins' finely honed ball-control attack. Whatever he may have lacked in size and arm strength, he made up in grit and intelligence.
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Originally posted by captveg:
Originally posted by tankle104:
Originally posted by captveg:
Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:
Originally posted by tankle104:
Wasn't he like three time SB winner by the time marino arrived there? He went to like five super bowls, had the 1972 undefeated team. If I'm not mistaking, that 1972 team was led by our current QB coach's dad (brian Griese).

Yea they went to 3 in a row and won 2 (lost the first one).

He also won the NFL championship as HC of the 1968 Baltimore Colts (but lost the SB to the AFL Jets).

Offense was not the issue with the Dolphins. They didn't have the defense to consistently beat the other big AFC teams in the 80s/90s (Browns/Broncos/Bengals/Bills).

The 1984 team that beat the marino led dolphins in the super bowl was amazing, only lost one game. It was to the Steelers and it was a ridiculous call by the refs. Robbed us or an undefeated season!

Oh, definitely. Sucks for Marino that his best team went up against such a dominant 49er team. But I was also speaking as to why they couldn't get back after that. Even if they didn't lose to the underdog Patriots in the next year's AFC CG they would have faced the 1985 Bears in the SB, an equally difficult task, though they had given the Bears their only loss that year.

The Dolphins struggled to get back to the playoffs for a handful of years after that because their defense was bad, especially against other good AFC teams like the ones I mentioned. The only other AFC CG Marino played in was the 1992 game against the Bills. They also lost to the Bills a couple other times in the Divisional and Wild Card Playoffs from 1989-1995.

By the time the 49ers beat Shula in '84, the game has moved past him. He was of the vince lombardi, John Madden era. The high tech precision passing and timed option routes were beyond him. Shua was a defensive coach. The WCO was beyond his understanding.
Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:
Originally posted by tankle104:
Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:
In any event, I get sitting him for week one, because the other starters aren't out there and you don't want to re-injure him. But he needs some playing time before week 1. So do Lance and Darnold, so stop giving Allen reps. Give Purdy Q1 and let Darnold and Lance split the last two, and in week 3 give him two quarters.

I think that's a big reason why he got so many4 reps with the 1s during the last day of joint practice. They ones got like nearly 40 reps in, that's great practice. A few turnover drives and a few touchdown drives.

idk how coach Kyle will do it from here on out but we can really look at the second day of joint practice as Purdy's pre season game, IMO.

That's a good point, but it's still not quite the same thing as real game action. I'd still like to see him play some in the second game and get at least a half in the third. If not in the second game, at least give him lots of reps the third game.

No it's not, it's really close but no contact. My guess is it'll come down to how comfortable they are with Brock getting hit. I don't think his arm is 100%, just really close. So idk if they want him taking hits until it's actually 100%, so they may skip the pre season all together.

id like that see him get a drive or two in though before the season starts, get him feeling his contact and the rush feels.
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Originally posted by tankle104:
Originally posted by BOI49er:
The truly top ones don't coach, because they are filthy rich, and coaching is a lot of work. I don't see Purdy coaching, OK, look out, any more than I see Montana or Brady coaching. Let me count the Lombardi's. With this team, Really.

Purdy actually strikes me as the type that will coach when he retires. He loves the game too much and is very competitive. Will be hard for him to not be around the game.

Agree, and I'm betting he'll coach under Kyle the way Sam Wyche coached under Walsh.
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Originally posted by Montana:
Originally posted by tankle104:
Looks like Brock is now on the 3 days on and 1 off, like the rest of the players. So no more first team reps for darnold and lance.

Yep, practice restrictions removed, lettssss goooo

Great news! Hope he'll be ready for the Steelers. I want to beat Mike Tomlin Baaaaad!
Brock Purdy throws touchdowns and wins games.

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Originally posted by OnTheClock:
At this point, even if Purdy is Jimmy G level, that still should be plenty to contend for a Super Bowl Plus, way cheaper than Jimmy for now. Dude is just in year two and still can grow even more from here.

Purdy, as a rookie, was one game away from the Super Bowl. We all know that the 2nd year of a players career is where the greatest improvement of that player occurs!
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