QB Brock Purdy Thread

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by Fanaticofnfl:

Reminder:

From his first snap against the Dolphins to his final snap against Dallas:

Purdy threw the ball 220 times across 8 games for 1,854 yards for more than 8.1 Y/A.

We went 8-0 (including 2-0 in the playoffs). Five games were against playoff teams.

He threw 16 TD's and 3 INT's. He also rushed for 2 TD's.

He fumbled the ball zero times.

He put up a 111.4 passer rating.

Literally ANY first round QB with a rookie season even remotely close to this would already be anointed.

This whole "oh well has he REALLY proven himself??" is so ridiculous. 220 passes over a half-season sample size is not just a fluke at this point. There's maybe a chance that his 8-game run was a 2013 Foles situation but than again… Foles is a Super Bowl MVP so is that really the worst trajectory?

Why are you trying to get me so aroused before I go to bed?! 😏

Our situation right now man.. It feels so crazy to me.

I mean, it feels like we may have guy who's already great (hopefully that's confirmed this year.. We'll see), and then I feel like we have another guy in Lance who I truly believe is going to be great whenever he gets his shot.

In a weird way.. It sure does feel a lot like Joe and Steve in some ways, though the timing is a bit different obviously.

Now don't get all up in arms, folks, this is just my personal feeling. My vibe, my sense I get with these two kids.

I have high hopes for both and feel like both will be successful in this league.

Originally posted by NDSU:

Originally posted by Furlow:

Originally posted by Fanaticofnfl:
Reminder:

From his first snap against the Dolphins to his final snap against Dallas:

Purdy threw the ball 220 times across 8 games for 1,854 yards for more than 8.1 Y/A.

We went 8-0 (including 2-0 in the playoffs). Five games were against playoff teams.

He threw 16 TD's and 3 INT's. He also rushed for 2 TD's.

He fumbled the ball zero times.

He put up a 111.4 passer rating.

Literally ANY first round QB with a rookie season even remotely close to this would already be anointed.

This whole "oh well has he REALLY proven himself??" is so ridiculous. 220 passes over a half-season sample size is not just a fluke at this point. There's maybe a chance that his 8-game run was a 2013 Foles situation but than again… Foles is a Super Bowl MVP so is that really the worst trajectory?

Pin this post to the top of every page.

Foles pfft. Purdy's athleticism and physical talent are very underrated. And his attitude, confidence, and leadership are already rubbing off on his teammates before his second season has even started.

He is the One.

Foles won a superbowl, purdy hasnt.

So then Trent Dilfer is better than Dan Marino?

Stay in the gray area.

Originally posted by libertyforever:

Originally posted by Giedi:

Originally posted by Memphis9er:

Originally posted by Giedi:
I hope he does blow the raiders out! Or maybe Trey or Sam will!
I'd love to see Brock just uncork a couple of 50+ yard TD passes against the Raiders just to shut up the folks who think he can't throw deep. That should give a lot of defensive coordinators less sleep when facing the 49er offense in the regular season.

The morons who think Brock can't throw deep are completely full of 💩 anyway. The TD that Kittle stole from Ray-Ray was 45 yards in the air. There's less than one throw a game that deep from even the strongest armed qbs. The ones complaining about Brock just can't stand having a qb that's not 6'5" and 250 pounds. The same guys would probably want JaMarcus Russell to start over Joe Montana. Some think physical tools are the most important part of quarterbacking. Which is completely backwards thinking. The mental aspect is by far more vital. That's why the guys that can do both are very rare, and unless you are lucky, are gone before your team picks.

Agree with you that there are morons out there that still think Brock can't play QB1 and win super bowls. And Yes, he can throw deep. However...

Dickey continued: "In one of these off-the-record talks before the 1979 draft, Walsh had praised Dils's intelligence and courage but doubted that he had the physical ability to be a standout in the NFL. He didn't want to downgrade his former quarterback publicly, but he also wanted me to understand why the 49ers wouldn't draft Dils, whom he projected as no more than a backup quarterback in the NFL."
https://bleacherreport.com/articles/671789-draft-day-stories-did-bill-walsh-really-target-joe-montana-in-1979

...so between Steve Dills (Walsh's Stanford QB) and Joe Montana, Joe was bigger, faster and stronger than Dills, so physical talent does matter in the NFL. There is a minimum standard for players to play certain positions. Doug Flutie comes to mind. Point being - yes there is a minimum size/height/arm requirements for the NFL QB position, but Purdy meets and exceeds a lot of them too. Kyle would not have drafted Purdy if he didn't think Purdy met the arm requirements his offense needed.

I brought this up in the past. Tua was the 5th overall pick. Tell me how Purdy compare to Tua physically and athletically. I think they are very similar. Apparently most scouts and people believe Tua is good enough physically and atheltically to be a franchise QB in the NFL, otherwise he wouldn't have been a top 5 overall pick.

I think the folks that focus on physical talent don't quite appreciate how intellectual the game of football is. There is a lot of strategy involved in this game. I liken it to a violent game of chess.

The draft is a gamble, nothing is sure about it at all. Trey's draft status (and Tua's) can only take him so far, the rest is up to a combination of coaching, work ethic, and the talent surrounding him. Luck is involved in the draft.

Bottom line is winning. As long as Kyle and John continue to win, they have a job. A franchise QB is a coaches job security. A guy like Brock who wins is more valuable to a coaches job security than Trey (for now) who's inconsistent in the win/loss category. Trey is a talent. He will get better. The nice thing about Treys situation is he can incubate in Kyle's system while Brock takes the pressure off him by winning. If I was Trey, I'd stick to Kyle as long as I possibly can.

Originally posted by Fanaticofnfl:
Reminder:

From his first snap against the Dolphins to his final snap against Dallas:

Purdy threw the ball 220 times across 8 games for 1,854 yards for more than 8.1 Y/A.

We went 8-0 (including 2-0 in the playoffs). Five games were against playoff teams.

He threw 16 TD's and 3 INT's. He also rushed for 2 TD's.

He fumbled the ball zero times.

He put up a 111.4 passer rating.

Literally ANY first round QB with a rookie season even remotely close to this would already be anointed.

This whole "oh well has he REALLY proven himself??" is so ridiculous. 220 passes over a half-season sample size is not just a fluke at this point. There's maybe a chance that his 8-game run was a 2013 Foles situation but than again… Foles is a Super Bowl MVP so is that really the worst trajectory?

Originally posted by Jeepzilla:

Originally posted by Kolohe:

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by Nastastical:

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by Fanaticofnfl:
Reminder:

From his first snap against the Dolphins to his final snap against Dallas:

Purdy threw the ball 220 times across 8 games for 1,854 yards for more than 8.1 Y/A.

We went 8-0 (including 2-0 in the playoffs). Five games were against playoff teams.

He threw 16 TD's and 3 INT's. He also rushed for 2 TD's.

He fumbled the ball zero times.

He put up a 111.4 passer rating.

Literally ANY first round QB with a rookie season even remotely close to this would already be anointed.

This whole "oh well has he REALLY proven himself??" is so ridiculous. 220 passes over a half-season sample size is not just a fluke at this point. There's maybe a chance that his 8-game run was a 2013 Foles situation but than again… Foles is a Super Bowl MVP so is that really the worst trajectory?

Why are you trying to get me so aroused before I go to bed?! 😏

Everything is screaming to the world that Purdy and Shanny are a match made in heaven. We haven't seen his offense perform at that high of a level since his final season in Atlanta. This team is MORE TALENTED than Atlanta and that's should terrify the NFL. Yet people are still doubting the combo? What more does he have to prove to you? Do people really think teams weren't prepared for him during the playoffs? Expecting him to regress when he's paired with an offensive genius and superstars across the roster is idiotic. They'll soon learn though because I think we're going to absolutely destroy Pittsburgh and the media will finally start taking us serious... some of our own fans too.

Exactly, kyles already talked about how he had to adjust to defenses already and that he was impressed with Brock when he did it. Brocks going to eventually have a not so great game, otherwise it'll be really hard to beat us, not every QB is A+ all the time - but she should be damn good most of the time.

i think we will destroy the Steelers too, I think mainly because our defense will overwhelm Pickett. I'm not expecting a bad game from Brock but idk what to expect because it'll be his first live action since his injury.

what gives me confidence regarding the injury is that when he played through the broken ribs, no one knew he was hurt in the tampa game, he didn't look hurt at all through the seattle game, and he was probably still dealing with the injury a week or two after the seattle game. Showed nearly no signs of it. I think he will be able to mentally cross the injury out of his mind. I'm really excited for week 1!

I'm pretty sure Shanahan will open with CMC getting something going vs Pittsburgh, with a few short to intermediate throws from Purdy.

This would make the most sense.
We do have some on here saying Purdy should air it out, so unfortunately, they must not know or understand who Watt is and how stacked and well coached that defense is & how raw most of our O-line is.

Just depends on what the defense is playing. They're most likely going to stack the box to stop the run, so I imagine it will be quick passes to start the game to get them to back up but who knows. It'll just depend on what the defense is showing

Originally posted by OnTheClock:

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by Fanaticofnfl:
Reminder:

From his first snap against the Dolphins to his final snap against Dallas:

Purdy threw the ball 220 times across 8 games for 1,854 yards for more than 8.1 Y/A.

We went 8-0 (including 2-0 in the playoffs). Five games were against playoff teams.

He threw 16 TD's and 3 INT's. He also rushed for 2 TD's.

He fumbled the ball zero times.

He put up a 111.4 passer rating.

Literally ANY first round QB with a rookie season even remotely close to this would already be anointed.

This whole "oh well has he REALLY proven himself??" is so ridiculous. 220 passes over a half-season sample size is not just a fluke at this point. There's maybe a chance that his 8-game run was a 2013 Foles situation but than again… Foles is a Super Bowl MVP so is that really the worst trajectory?

Why are you trying to get me so aroused before I go to bed?! 😏

Our situation right now man.. It feels so crazy to me.

I mean, it feels like we may have guy who's already great (hopefully that's confirmed this year.. We'll see), and then I feel like we have another guy in Lance who I truly believe is going to be great whenever he gets his shot.

In a weird way.. It sure does feel a lot like Joe and Steve in some ways, though the timing is a bit different obviously.

Now don't get all up in arms, folks, this is just my personal feeling. My vibe, my sense I get with these two kids.

I have high hopes for both and feel like both will be successful in this league.

It's a good problem to have. I really think Brock is going to be special, and like you said, hopefully that's proven right this year. The other good part to this is that if Trey shows the ability to be top notch, we have him for at least the next two seasons. So our depth will be bolstered for the next two years.

i just want us to win a super bowl and idc how we do it, I just hope it happens this year.

Originally posted by Giedi:

Originally posted by libertyforever:

Originally posted by Giedi:

Originally posted by Memphis9er:

Originally posted by Giedi:
I hope he does blow the raiders out! Or maybe Trey or Sam will!
I'd love to see Brock just uncork a couple of 50+ yard TD passes against the Raiders just to shut up the folks who think he can't throw deep. That should give a lot of defensive coordinators less sleep when facing the 49er offense in the regular season.

The morons who think Brock can't throw deep are completely full of 💩 anyway. The TD that Kittle stole from Ray-Ray was 45 yards in the air. There's less than one throw a game that deep from even the strongest armed qbs. The ones complaining about Brock just can't stand having a qb that's not 6'5" and 250 pounds. The same guys would probably want JaMarcus Russell to start over Joe Montana. Some think physical tools are the most important part of quarterbacking. Which is completely backwards thinking. The mental aspect is by far more vital. That's why the guys that can do both are very rare, and unless you are lucky, are gone before your team picks.

Agree with you that there are morons out there that still think Brock can't play QB1 and win super bowls. And Yes, he can throw deep. However...

Dickey continued: "In one of these off-the-record talks before the 1979 draft, Walsh had praised Dils's intelligence and courage but doubted that he had the physical ability to be a standout in the NFL. He didn't want to downgrade his former quarterback publicly, but he also wanted me to understand why the 49ers wouldn't draft Dils, whom he projected as no more than a backup quarterback in the NFL."
https://bleacherreport.com/articles/671789-draft-day-stories-did-bill-walsh-really-target-joe-montana-in-1979

...so between Steve Dills (Walsh's Stanford QB) and Joe Montana, Joe was bigger, faster and stronger than Dills, so physical talent does matter in the NFL. There is a minimum standard for players to play certain positions. Doug Flutie comes to mind. Point being - yes there is a minimum size/height/arm requirements for the NFL QB position, but Purdy meets and exceeds a lot of them too. Kyle would not have drafted Purdy if he didn't think Purdy met the arm requirements his offense needed.

I brought this up in the past. Tua was the 5th overall pick. Tell me how Purdy compare to Tua physically and athletically. I think they are very similar. Apparently most scouts and people believe Tua is good enough physically and atheltically to be a franchise QB in the NFL, otherwise he wouldn't have been a top 5 overall pick.

I think the folks that focus on physical talent don't quite appreciate how intellectual the game of football is. There is a lot of strategy involved in this game. I liken it to a violent game of chess.

The draft is a gamble, nothing is sure about it at all. Trey's draft status (and Tua's) can only take him so far, the rest is up to a combination of coaching, work ethic, and the talent surrounding him. Luck is involved in the draft.

Bottom line is winning. As long as Kyle and John continue to win, they have a job. A franchise QB is a coaches job security. A guy like Brock who wins is more valuable to a coaches job security than Trey (for now) who's inconsistent in the win/loss category. Trey is a talent. He will get better. The nice thing about Treys situation is he can incubate in Kyle's system while Brock takes the pressure off him by winning. If I was Trey, I'd stick to Kyle as long as I possibly can.

Trey is very lucky in the sense that he has been in the same system his whole career. Guys like Alex smith & Darnold have been shafted in that catagory of consistency. Alex had a different system for like his first 7 years and darnold is on like his 6th different system. Lol that stuff is really important to their growth too.

but yes, the game is very mental and emotional. You have to be super quick with your thoughts and processing, have natural instincts for the game. There are so many variables and they're hard to identify, hence finding a franchise QB is brutally difficult.

if Brock plays well like he did last year (and we stay healthy), we should get the #1 seed. I think this season will be a blast to watch

The Real Deal has a day off today, gives the other qbs a chance to rub shoulders with the big boys

Is it me or does Brock look more thicc? Like he gained 5 lbs in his neck alone lol. Maybe just me? Defo looks beefier. Putting on that muscle:)

Originally posted by Montana:
Is it me or does Brock look more thicc? Like he gained 5 lbs in his neck alone lol. Maybe just me? Defo looks beefier. Putting on that muscle:)

His body looks way more built in general. For me, specifically his lower body. He had a big lower body for a rookie QB last year but def added to it. He said how he still worked out his core and legs a lot during the off season but yeah, he's thiccer 😏

This is exactly what you want to see, it's what training camp is for.

Purdy acknowledges that he isn't perfect yet. However, Brendel believes his quarterback is capable of identifying and correcting his flaws.

Brendel said, "I feel like, just every single day, he might screw up one play or two plays in practice, but the next practice, you deliberately see him fix that problem, and that's really all you want from a second-year quarterback."

Originally posted by tankle104:
This is exactly what you want to see, it's what training camp is for.

Purdy acknowledges that he isn't perfect yet. However, Brendel believes his quarterback is capable of identifying and correcting his flaws.

Brendel said, "I feel like, just every single day, he might screw up one play or two plays in practice, but the next practice, you deliberately see him fix that problem, and that's really all you want from a second-year quarterback."

Yes, it's one of his talents, being able to analyze, zero in on a problem & fix it. His mental game is 💯 and that's what you want in a qb & leader.

Originally posted by Montana:

Originally posted by tankle104:
This is exactly what you want to see, it's what training camp is for.

Purdy acknowledges that he isn't perfect yet. However, Brendel believes his quarterback is capable of identifying and correcting his flaws.

Brendel said, "I feel like, just every single day, he might screw up one play or two plays in practice, but the next practice, you deliberately see him fix that problem, and that's really all you want from a second-year quarterback."

Yes, it's one of his talents, being able to analyze, zero in on a problem & fix it. His mental game is 💯 and that's what you want in a qb & leader.

This is why I'm not concerned about defenses "figuring him out". There isn't anything to figure out, he isn't a one trick pony. He will just continue to grow. Sure, I imagine there will be a game or so that be struggles - it happens to every young qb, but he will get better for it.

typically he's shown that after halftime he will make the proper adjustments and be better

Originally posted by Furlow:

Originally posted by NDSU:

Originally posted by Furlow:

Originally posted by Fanaticofnfl:
Reminder:

From his first snap against the Dolphins to his final snap against Dallas:

Purdy threw the ball 220 times across 8 games for 1,854 yards for more than 8.1 Y/A.

We went 8-0 (including 2-0 in the playoffs). Five games were against playoff teams.

He threw 16 TD's and 3 INT's. He also rushed for 2 TD's.

He fumbled the ball zero times.

He put up a 111.4 passer rating.

Literally ANY first round QB with a rookie season even remotely close to this would already be anointed.

This whole "oh well has he REALLY proven himself??" is so ridiculous. 220 passes over a half-season sample size is not just a fluke at this point. There's maybe a chance that his 8-game run was a 2013 Foles situation but than again… Foles is a Super Bowl MVP so is that really the worst trajectory?

Pin this post to the top of every page.

Foles pfft. Purdy's athleticism and physical talent are very underrated. And his attitude, confidence, and leadership are already rubbing off on his teammates before his second season has even started.

He is the One.

Foles won a superbowl, purdy hasnt.

So then Trent Dilfer is better than Dan Marino?

Stay in the gray area.

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by OnTheClock:

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by Fanaticofnfl:

Reminder:

From his first snap against the Dolphins to his final snap against Dallas:

Purdy threw the ball 220 times across 8 games for 1,854 yards for more than 8.1 Y/A.

We went 8-0 (including 2-0 in the playoffs). Five games were against playoff teams.

He threw 16 TD's and 3 INT's. He also rushed for 2 TD's.

He fumbled the ball zero times.

He put up a 111.4 passer rating.

Literally ANY first round QB with a rookie season even remotely close to this would already be anointed.

This whole "oh well has he REALLY proven himself??" is so ridiculous. 220 passes over a half-season sample size is not just a fluke at this point. There's maybe a chance that his 8-game run was a 2013 Foles situation but than again… Foles is a Super Bowl MVP so is that really the worst trajectory?

Why are you trying to get me so aroused before I go to bed?! 😏

Our situation right now man.. It feels so crazy to me.

I mean, it feels like we may have guy who's already great (hopefully that's confirmed this year.. We'll see), and then I feel like we have another guy in Lance who I truly believe is going to be great whenever he gets his shot.

In a weird way.. It sure does feel a lot like Joe and Steve in some ways, though the timing is a bit different obviously.

Now don't get all up in arms, folks, this is just my personal feeling. My vibe, my sense I get with these two kids.

I have high hopes for both and feel like both will be successful in this league.

It's a good problem to have. I really think Brock is going to be special, and like you said, hopefully that's proven right this year. The other good part to this is that if Trey shows the ability to be top notch, we have him for at least the next two seasons. So our depth will be bolstered for the next two years.

i just want us to win a super bowl and idc how we do it, I just hope it happens this year.

Agreed.

I mean, the situation is pretty straight forward for where we are right now. Everybody knows there's simply no way you can perform like Brock did last year and suddenly enter the next season as anything other than the top dog. Even Trey himself admitted that.

I'm glad Lance was adamant he wanted to stay here and compete, to continue to develop, and ultimately show his growth and prove to everyone on this team -- players and coaches alike -- that he should be considered a starter in the NFL and deserves to be in the conversation going forward, whether that means sometime mid-season -- if Brock has unexpected struggles or, heaven forbid, suffers an injury and Lance balls out in relief -- or going into next year.

Now, hopefully this isn't the case -- but it's possible Brock maybe just plays solid but not at the same level and doesn't have the same results over a full season that he did last year. I'd hate to see that, but if it did happen, I'd be surprised if there wasn't hints of concern then. You know fans would be talking about it, and so would the media.

Brock really has no pressure on him now, and I don't think he will until the regular season starts. He's not going to lose his starting job for week one, but after that.. I think there's an argument that there's much more pressure on him than he had last year in terms of threats to take his spot. It ain't Josh Johnson behind him now.

When a quality alternative is behind you, the leash just isn't as long. If Lance carries his successful off-season and camp all the way through preseason up to week one, he'll have put himself in way stronger position and make a decision a little easier if things don't go as expected with Brock. And again, that doesn't necessarily even mean this season.

I don't know what's going to happen, but at the end of the day, all I care about is that whatever decisions Kyle and John make going forward lead to Super Bowls.