QB Brock Purdy Thread

So the plan has been 3 days of practice and 1 day off, regarding the overall team. 2 practices and 1 off for Brock.

so does that mean Brock will practice tomorrow and Monday, Tuesday & Wednesday off? Then come back for Thursday & Friday?

I think that makes sense because it would give Brock two days off in a row after this next stretch of practices. I just don't know if this has been confirmed

Man this is gold regarding Trey and Brock

https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZT88b8uL1/

Originally posted by DonnieDarko:

Originally posted by Giedi:
Brock is amazing. It took a veteran Matt Ryan two whole years to master Kyle's offense, a little longer with Jimmy, but Brock had it humming his rookie year. Brock just needs a decent right tackle and this offense is super bowl ready.

Purdy's athleticism, pocket presence, accuracy, touch, vision, decision making, were all overlooked. It does help that he's in the perfect system with weapons all around him though.

Agree 💯%, and I'll just add his passes are very catchable. He doesn't overpower the throw like Kaepernick did. He can feather the pass in there right in the receivers sweet spot.

Allen give me the same feeling that Brock does. We shall see.

Originally posted by BOI49er:
You just can't tell what's between the ears from a college background. Good or Bad.

Originally posted by JoseCortez:
Brock Purdy was the last pick not because of arm strength. it's because scouts are lazy. All they see is a big school, big arm, athletic ability, and that's who they want to draft. This same mistake has been made over and over again. Scouts and fans just continue to make the same stupid mistake. I have a lot of respect for Steve Smith. He's right on here.

From my understanding, on of the reasons Brock was overlooked was that his college offensive coordinator wasn't very good. In Brock's 2nd year in college, they got a great running back and the OC emphasized the run more than the pass so Brock's numbers dropped as compared with his first two years. He also had some really horrible turnovers in college - in big games - that really made him look like an idiot QB in college.

From high school - he didn't get into one of the football powerhouse schools because his last year in high school - he got mono, lost a ton of weight and arm strength and hence didn't get any real recruiting opportunities. He was also able to add arm strength from the draft to the 49er training camp.

One final thought, nobody really can predict how a player deals with the NFL. The pressure is intense and players can lose confidence fairly rapidly if they don't have what BOI49er mentions. Zach Wilson comes to mind. Add in the money, and the hunger to dominate and excel diminishes. I mean if your boss gave you 7 million dollars right now, no strings attached, would you go to work tomorrow? I don't think so. Scouting QBs is one of the toughest things a scout can do, in my opinion.

Originally posted by Giedi:

Originally posted by BOI49er:
You just can't tell what's between the ears from a college background. Good or Bad.

Originally posted by JoseCortez:
Brock Purdy was the last pick not because of arm strength. it's because scouts are lazy. All they see is a big school, big arm, athletic ability, and that's who they want to draft. This same mistake has been made over and over again. Scouts and fans just continue to make the same stupid mistake. I have a lot of respect for Steve Smith. He's right on here.

From my understanding, on of the reasons Brock was overlooked was that his college offensive coordinator wasn't very good. In Brock's 2nd year in college, they got a great running back and the OC emphasized the run more than the pass so Brock's numbers dropped as compared with his first two years. He also had some really horrible turnovers in college - in big games - that really made him look like an idiot QB in college.

From high school - he didn't get into one of the football powerhouse schools because his last year in high school - he got mono, lost a ton of weight and arm strength and hence didn't get any real recruiting opportunities. He was also able to add arm strength from the draft to the 49er training camp.

One final thought, nobody really can predict how a player deals with the NFL. The pressure is intense and players can lose confidence fairly rapidly if they don't have what BOI49er mentions. Zach Wilson comes to mind. Add in the money, and the hunger to dominate and excel diminishes. I mean if your boss gave you 7 million dollars right now, no strings attached, would you go to work tomorrow? I don't think so. Scouting QBs is one of the toughest things a scout can do, in my opinion.

I'll add to your first paragraph, Brock talked about how he felt at the time that he had to really overcompensate and do too much in an effort to keep his team competitive, at times. He talked about his that lead him to make boneheaded mistakes because he just tried to do too much, instead of trusting his guys.

he also talked about how that experience really helped him grow and find himself as a person (it's why you hear him say that football doesn't define him, his faith does). He learned all that and coped with those struggles.

i feel like that doesn't get talked about enough because I think those experiences and adversity are core reasons why he can deal with the pressure of the league and have so much poise as a young man.

he's had programs on his shoulders since he was like 15, so he's really learned how to handle all of the pressure and expectations over the years and work through the boneheaded mistakes. I think it's really benefiting him early in his career.

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by Giedi:

Originally posted by BOI49er:
You just can't tell what's between the ears from a college background. Good or Bad.

Originally posted by JoseCortez:
Brock Purdy was the last pick not because of arm strength. it's because scouts are lazy. All they see is a big school, big arm, athletic ability, and that's who they want to draft. This same mistake has been made over and over again. Scouts and fans just continue to make the same stupid mistake. I have a lot of respect for Steve Smith. He's right on here.

From my understanding, on of the reasons Brock was overlooked was that his college offensive coordinator wasn't very good. In Brock's 2nd year in college, they got a great running back and the OC emphasized the run more than the pass so Brock's numbers dropped as compared with his first two years. He also had some really horrible turnovers in college - in big games - that really made him look like an idiot QB in college.

From high school - he didn't get into one of the football powerhouse schools because his last year in high school - he got mono, lost a ton of weight and arm strength and hence didn't get any real recruiting opportunities. He was also able to add arm strength from the draft to the 49er training camp.

One final thought, nobody really can predict how a player deals with the NFL. The pressure is intense and players can lose confidence fairly rapidly if they don't have what BOI49er mentions. Zach Wilson comes to mind. Add in the money, and the hunger to dominate and excel diminishes. I mean if your boss gave you 7 million dollars right now, no strings attached, would you go to work tomorrow? I don't think so. Scouting QBs is one of the toughest things a scout can do, in my opinion.

I'll add to your first paragraph, Brock talked about how he felt at the time that he had to really overcompensate and do too much in an effort to keep his team competitive, at times. He talked about his that lead him to make boneheaded mistakes because he just tried to do too much, instead of trusting his guys.

he also talked about how that experience really helped him grow and find himself as a person (it's why you hear him say that football doesn't define him, his faith does). He learned all that and coped with those struggles.

i feel like that doesn't get talked about enough because I think those experiences and adversity are core reasons why he can deal with the pressure of the league and have so much poise as a young man.

he's had programs on his shoulders since he was like 15, so he's really learned how to handle all of the pressure and expectations over the years and work through the boneheaded mistakes. I think it's really benefiting him early in his career.

Agree 💯%, most people don't know how to deal with adversity. The way you deal with adversity it is knowing who you are and who you want to be. Many 22 year old boys heading into the NFL pressure cooker don't have those life coping skills. Trey has to overcome this adversity. It's not his fault the player drafted last played like a round 1 pick 1 player. It is what it is and he has to just keep fighting for it if he really wants to be a QB in the NFL. He'll be fine if he does that. He is so physically talentedly blessed, it won't take much. He just has to get that confidence that Brock has in his game and he'll be fine.

Originally posted by Giedi:
Agree 💯%, most people don't know how to deal with adversity. The way you deal with adversity it is knowing who you are and who you want to be. Many 22 year old boys heading into the NFL pressure cooker don't have those life coping skills. Trey has to overcome this adversity. It's not his fault the player drafted last played like a round 1 pick 1 player. It is what it is and he has to just keep fighting for it if he really wants to be a QB in the NFL. He'll be fine if he does that. He is so physically talentedly blessed, it won't take much. He just has to get that confidence that Brock has in his game and he'll be fine.

Exactly. But right now I am gonna rock with Brock!

Originally posted by Giedi:

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by Giedi:

Originally posted by BOI49er:
You just can't tell what's between the ears from a college background. Good or Bad.

Originally posted by JoseCortez:
Brock Purdy was the last pick not because of arm strength. it's because scouts are lazy. All they see is a big school, big arm, athletic ability, and that's who they want to draft. This same mistake has been made over and over again. Scouts and fans just continue to make the same stupid mistake. I have a lot of respect for Steve Smith. He's right on here.

From my understanding, on of the reasons Brock was overlooked was that his college offensive coordinator wasn't very good. In Brock's 2nd year in college, they got a great running back and the OC emphasized the run more than the pass so Brock's numbers dropped as compared with his first two years. He also had some really horrible turnovers in college - in big games - that really made him look like an idiot QB in college.

From high school - he didn't get into one of the football powerhouse schools because his last year in high school - he got mono, lost a ton of weight and arm strength and hence didn't get any real recruiting opportunities. He was also able to add arm strength from the draft to the 49er training camp.

One final thought, nobody really can predict how a player deals with the NFL. The pressure is intense and players can lose confidence fairly rapidly if they don't have what BOI49er mentions. Zach Wilson comes to mind. Add in the money, and the hunger to dominate and excel diminishes. I mean if your boss gave you 7 million dollars right now, no strings attached, would you go to work tomorrow? I don't think so. Scouting QBs is one of the toughest things a scout can do, in my opinion.

I'll add to your first paragraph, Brock talked about how he felt at the time that he had to really overcompensate and do too much in an effort to keep his team competitive, at times. He talked about his that lead him to make boneheaded mistakes because he just tried to do too much, instead of trusting his guys.

he also talked about how that experience really helped him grow and find himself as a person (it's why you hear him say that football doesn't define him, his faith does). He learned all that and coped with those struggles.

i feel like that doesn't get talked about enough because I think those experiences and adversity are core reasons why he can deal with the pressure of the league and have so much poise as a young man.

he's had programs on his shoulders since he was like 15, so he's really learned how to handle all of the pressure and expectations over the years and work through the boneheaded mistakes. I think it's really benefiting him early in his career.

Agree 💯%, most people don't know how to deal with adversity. The way you deal with adversity it is knowing who you are and who you want to be. Many 22 year old boys heading into the NFL pressure cooker don't have those life coping skills. Trey has to overcome this adversity. It's not his fault the player drafted last played like a round 1 pick 1 player. It is what it is and he has to just keep fighting for it if he really wants to be a QB in the NFL. He'll be fine if he does that. He is so physically talentedly blessed, it won't take much. He just has to get that confidence that Brock has in his game and he'll be fine.

To me, that's where experience comes into play. Not just playing but dealing/coping with all the wild things these QBs deal with. I'd bet darnold is probably handling and approaching this completion much better than he did last year with Mayfiekd because he's been through it and knows how to navigate it.

as long as Lance approaches it right, this situation will make him a bette person/QB long term. I think Lance has the right personality and support from his family where he will. It'll be ugly at times but I think he will persevere.

im just super excited to follow this camp with Brock. Darnold is looking better than I anticipated. I think Lance will get it together, just needs to relax and stay present/focused.

Originally posted by 49ers808:

Originally posted by Dshearn:

Originally posted by 49ers808:

Originally posted by NYniner85:
They could have tagged him easily. Not make him one of the highest paid players in NFL history at the time.

https://www.sbnation.com/platform/amp/nfl/2018/2/8/16991954/jimmy-garoppolo-san-francisco-49ers-contract

in what world do you give up 3 1sts and a 3rd and say you have to earn starting reps? That s**t NEVER happens. Ever. You invest that much, he's your guy plain and simple. Every yr you see the top QBs get that s**t. They realize when you invest that, Then you need to actually see it through. Not s**t on the kid every step of the way and force him to split reps with a washed up QB for backup reps after 170 passing attempts. They talk about Sam like he's Steve young (after years of s**t play) and say next or nothing positive about Trey outside of he's healthy. It's a joke imo.

yes it is another lost yr if Brock sucks and you didn't invest the time to develop him by playing him. No different than his rookie yr when he should have played.

like I said earlier, kyle might be the next Gruden where he's constantly looking for a different QB and thinks he can take subpar talent and make them good because of HIS scheme.

I've never seen such mismanagement of a high end QB in all my years of watching football. Honestly I think it's pretty sad.

You said nothing wrong here. All facts

This is easy.....

In What world?

We have all seen bad picks at the top of the draft, Lance is not even in the top 5 worst draft busts, but Lance was not worth what was paid for him....period.

Love the dude, want the best for him...hope he rocks....but he was not worth what was paid for him in draft capital.

So in what world do you have to earn starting reps?

In a world were a potential superbowl level team is not about to throw their season away to wait for an over valued QB prospect to beat out a 3rd stringer.

It is rare to see teams with as much talent as the 49ers draft what is generally considered a "must play" player, but kudos for them not throwing the season away to satisfy the whims of what is expected.

We know the 49ers have every reason under the sun to play Lance, because that is what is expected. IF they are NOT playing Lance, and Lance gets beat out by an off the street free agent

Well.....that probably tells you more about Lance then it does about Kyle.

This team is in win now mode, you don't stop and wait for Lance- 3 years in the system- to figure out how to beat out an off the street FA.

Lance has to learn on the fly....they are not going to just hand him the job again.

Well that's the thing, it's a world that Kyle and Lynch created themselves. It wasn't the fans that made that trade. We were a Super Bowl level team BEFORE they made that trade, not after. They knew he was raw, everyone did, and they selected him. So you make the biggest trade in franchise history……to sit the player that you made that trade for??? Gets hurt 2 games into his second season and now give up on the kid? I get that Purdy happened, he no question earned the QB1 spot this season until further notice, but WTF has Darnold and Allen done to earn equal footing in this organization as Lance, whom Kyle and Lynch a season ago had as QB1 and the future of this franchise that they moved heaven on earth for? His development/evaluation ended after two games? It's malpractice and straight up stupid and as NY stated has NEVER happened before. How anyone can invest that much and not see it through is beyond me though and is a question for the guys that did it, Kyle and Lynch.

And no, you do not know if he ends up being worth it or not, ain't no periods yet lol. 4 games, 23 years old and people think they know what he is already
Man, so many QBs in the history of the NFL wouldn't have had a chance if that same stance were held against them, including our very own Steve Young

You dont put that kind of draft capital into a guy that is not you clear cut face of the franchise by year 3.

Your average first round QB with multiple years in the system, should not be in a dog fight with an off the street free agent to get second team snaps, let alone a guy that has that much draft capital invested in him.

We know what Trey is today....right now.....

Trey is a back up.....

We don't know if that is QB3 or QB2.....

If Trey can't beat out random dudes to be the primary back up....well....I guess that will answer what boggles you.

I like Trey, I am a Trey fan....but it really looks likeTrey was not ready for the NFL.

As far as other QBs, yeah man.....the vast majority of QBs that have ever existed....did not get a chance to run a superbowl contending offense. Rarely are those ever handed out....most teams want the best QB they can get thier hands on when a superbowl is on the line. Lucky for Steve Young, and maybe for us.... Greenbay turned down the trade for Steve, or we would be thinking back fondly or otherwise about the Bono years.

Ready for some damn football. If Brock stays healthy, he will help us get a trophy and will hold one up at some point. Let's goooo. Ready for the revenge tour lol

Originally posted by Montana:
Ready for some damn football. If Brock stays healthy, he will help us get a trophy and will hold one up at some point. Let's goooo. Ready for the revenge tour lol

Part of me wants to see him play in the Preseason just to get a feel for where he is at, and part of me doesn't because I'm worried it will add unnecessary strain on his elbow.

Originally posted by Dshearn:

Originally posted by 49ers808:

Originally posted by Dshearn:

Originally posted by 49ers808:

Originally posted by NYniner85:
They could have tagged him easily. Not make him one of the highest paid players in NFL history at the time.

https://www.sbnation.com/platform/amp/nfl/2018/2/8/16991954/jimmy-garoppolo-san-francisco-49ers-contract

in what world do you give up 3 1sts and a 3rd and say you have to earn starting reps? That s**t NEVER happens. Ever. You invest that much, he's your guy plain and simple. Every yr you see the top QBs get that s**t. They realize when you invest that, Then you need to actually see it through. Not s**t on the kid every step of the way and force him to split reps with a washed up QB for backup reps after 170 passing attempts. They talk about Sam like he's Steve young (after years of s**t play) and say next or nothing positive about Trey outside of he's healthy. It's a joke imo.

yes it is another lost yr if Brock sucks and you didn't invest the time to develop him by playing him. No different than his rookie yr when he should have played.

like I said earlier, kyle might be the next Gruden where he's constantly looking for a different QB and thinks he can take subpar talent and make them good because of HIS scheme.

I've never seen such mismanagement of a high end QB in all my years of watching football. Honestly I think it's pretty sad.

You said nothing wrong here. All facts

This is easy.....

In What world?

We have all seen bad picks at the top of the draft, Lance is not even in the top 5 worst draft busts, but Lance was not worth what was paid for him....period.

Love the dude, want the best for him...hope he rocks....but he was not worth what was paid for him in draft capital.

So in what world do you have to earn starting reps?

In a world were a potential superbowl level team is not about to throw their season away to wait for an over valued QB prospect to beat out a 3rd stringer.

It is rare to see teams with as much talent as the 49ers draft what is generally considered a "must play" player, but kudos for them not throwing the season away to satisfy the whims of what is expected.

We know the 49ers have every reason under the sun to play Lance, because that is what is expected. IF they are NOT playing Lance, and Lance gets beat out by an off the street free agent

Well.....that probably tells you more about Lance then it does about Kyle.

This team is in win now mode, you don't stop and wait for Lance- 3 years in the system- to figure out how to beat out an off the street FA.

Lance has to learn on the fly....they are not going to just hand him the job again.

Well that's the thing, it's a world that Kyle and Lynch created themselves. It wasn't the fans that made that trade. We were a Super Bowl level team BEFORE they made that trade, not after. They knew he was raw, everyone did, and they selected him. So you make the biggest trade in franchise history……to sit the player that you made that trade for??? Gets hurt 2 games into his second season and now give up on the kid? I get that Purdy happened, he no question earned the QB1 spot this season until further notice, but WTF has Darnold and Allen done to earn equal footing in this organization as Lance, whom Kyle and Lynch a season ago had as QB1 and the future of this franchise that they moved heaven on earth for? His development/evaluation ended after two games? It's malpractice and straight up stupid and as NY stated has NEVER happened before. How anyone can invest that much and not see it through is beyond me though and is a question for the guys that did it, Kyle and Lynch.

And no, you do not know if he ends up being worth it or not, ain't no periods yet lol. 4 games, 23 years old and people think they know what he is already
Man, so many QBs in the history of the NFL wouldn't have had a chance if that same stance were held against them, including our very own Steve Young

You dont put that kind of draft capital into a guy that is not you clear cut face of the franchise by year 3.

Your average first round QB with multiple years in the system, should not be in a dog fight with an off the street free agent to get second team snaps, let alone a guy that has that much draft capital invested in him.

We know what Trey is today....right now.....

Trey is a back up.....

We don't know if that is QB3 or QB2.....

If Trey can't beat out random dudes to be the primary back up....well....I guess that will answer what boggles you.

I like Trey, I am a Trey fan....but it really looks likeTrey was not ready for the NFL.

As far as other QBs, yeah man.....the vast majority of QBs that have ever existed....did not get a chance to run a superbowl contending offense. Rarely are those ever handed out....most teams want the best QB they can get thier hands on when a superbowl is on the line. Lucky for Steve Young, and maybe for us.... Greenbay turned down the trade for Steve, or we would be thinking back fondly or otherwise about the Bono years.

I disagree with this. Trey was as ready as many others who have come into the NFL which is to say most rookie QBs don't come out of the gate lighting it up and playing mistake free football. Even as great as Brock played he had rookie mistakes including the injury play.

The reason I feel for Trey is the team invested in him knowing his lack of experience.

They then went in with the plan to sit him as a rookie. Any starting reps he got that season was a bonus as far as the plan they had for him.

Then the injury early in year 2. I get it things happen but it's also frustrating that many of us saw something like that coming considering how he was being used.

But to go from thinking that highly of him, talking about he just needs reps to now pushing him to the side, not supporting him in the media at all after that injury is just weird to me. I don't know if Kyle is using the Aiyuk approach with Trey but it doesn't seem like Trey's issue is lack of work ethic or taking things seriously.

It's just weird to me that the team made the move they did and now making Trey seem like an afterthought. Hell they could at least prop up his trade value if they're looking to move him.

But Trey was ready. He just hasn't gotten the development needed to improve the way other young QBs do. Some isn't his fault, some is. But to say he wasn't ready imo isn't fair. Some guys are gamers. We have yet to see Trey in a game where he wasn't used as a FB outside of Houston. And it happened to be his best game.

Originally posted by SlipAndSlideBosa:
Part of me wants to see him play in the Preseason just to get a feel for where he is at, and part of me doesn't because I'm worried it will add unnecessary strain on his elbow.

I would rather him not play preseason cause of the elbow but I see what you mean. Guess I have to have patience lol. I am sure he is hungry af to get back out there. I am excited to have him back on the field.

Originally posted by genus49:
I disagree with this. Trey was as ready as many others who have come into the NFL which is to say most rookie QBs don't come out of the gate lighting it up and playing mistake free football. Even as great as Brock played he had rookie mistakes including the injury play.

The reason I feel for Trey is the team invested in him knowing his lack of experience.

They then went in with the plan to sit him as a rookie. Any starting reps he got that season was a bonus as far as the plan they had for him.

Then the injury early in year 2. I get it things happen but it's also frustrating that many of us saw something like that coming considering how he was being used.

But to go from thinking that highly of him, talking about he just needs reps to now pushing him to the side, not supporting him in the media at all after that injury is just weird to me. I don't know if Kyle is using the Aiyuk approach with Trey but it doesn't seem like Trey's issue is lack of work ethic or taking things seriously.

It's just weird to me that the team made the move they did and now making Trey seem like an afterthought. Hell they could at least prop up his trade value if they're looking to move him.

But Trey was ready. He just hasn't gotten the development needed to improve the way other young QBs do. Some isn't his fault, some is. But to say he wasn't ready imo isn't fair. Some guys are gamers. We have yet to see Trey in a game where he wasn't used as a FB outside of Houston. And it happened to be his best game.

the 49ers have years of off season work, years of preseason work, years of film study with Trey.....

They know what Trey can do and can't do.

If Trey was ready to go out there and be Nick Mullins...they would have let him....they spent a fortune for him.....

It sounds to me like some people just want stuff handed to Trey like most top 1st round QBs, I get that...but as you said....they knew he was not ready...so let him sit a year behind a vet. They did hand him the job ready or not in year two...and found out they could not run the normal offense ( shanny all but said that he would not draft a guy with such limited playing time again) so they ran what Trey could run.

I think Trey has to run the normal 49ers offense to get on the field again, and ....again...my opinion ....... as a normal QB.....they don't know yet...if he is the second or third best qb on the roster....

Originally posted by Pillbusta:

Originally posted by Giedi:
Agree 💯%, most people don't know how to deal with adversity. The way you deal with adversity it is knowing who you are and who you want to be. Many 22 year old boys heading into the NFL pressure cooker don't have those life coping skills. Trey has to overcome this adversity. It's not his fault the player drafted last played like a round 1 pick 1 player. It is what it is and he has to just keep fighting for it if he really wants to be a QB in the NFL. He'll be fine if he does that. He is so physically talentedly blessed, it won't take much. He just has to get that confidence that Brock has in his game and he'll be fine.

Exactly. But right now I am gonna rock with Brock!

I think ShanaLynch is also sharing your mindset. Me - I'll wait till training camp is over. I'm still excited for Trey and his (hopeful) development. I want him to push Purdy the way Steve pushed Joe to be great.