QB Brock Purdy Thread

Originally posted by krizay:
1) no competition needed. Brock has shown he can run Kyle's offense to the fullest extent. The closest thing to Matt Ryan's MVP season. Purdy is unquestionably QB1.

2) we are in his 3rd offseason and we are still reading Trey missing the gimmes. That s**t isn't on Kyle. At least not as far as development goes. You can put it on him from an evaluational standpoint. He shouldn't nor can he teach a #3 overall how to hit the gimmes. That s**t should be part of why he gets drafted. Not something you hope he learns.

His needed development is from a foundational/fundamental standpoint that is usually learned long before you become the #3 overall pick. Trying to forget umpteen years of bad habits once you hit the big leagues is rough.

The only reason Kyle/John is getting off the hook is because of Purdy. If not for Purdy and we were letting Trey and Sam battle it out, I promise you there would be furniture moving at Santa Clara headquarters

When the offense is rolling yeah and while the team was on a winning streak already with Jimmy. Can he do it from the beginning of the season to the end? Remains to be seen.

Originally posted by CardinalGold:
Trading 3 first round picks to take the 3rd QB off the board never made sense. I posted this on here before Lance was selected.

It's not surprising to me that it still doesn't make sense now. That said, I keep seeing separate questions get meshed together which muddies the issue of what to do now. In my view there are two distinct questions:

1) Who should be QB1?
Personally I think it should be a competition between Lance and Purdy. But if you have to pick QB1 today without training camp then it's clearly Brock Purdy unless he shows signs of issues post injury.

2) Who should be QB2?
IMO, it has to be Lance if he doesn't win QB1. This is where I think the fans are getting frustrated. The team selected Lance (using 3 first round picks) and they should have known he needed development, yet they are not committing to giving him that. Why are Darnold and Allen even in the mix if Trey needs development? If Trey is so bad that he shouldnt be QB2, then this is a huge gaffe of a trade/pick and the team needs to own up to it. But most likely we all see that it's too early to say he is a bust without developing him. If the team wasn't going to develop him then why spend so much draft capital to pick such a raw player? The team needs to be held accountable on the decision making on all of this but instead posters argue with each other. Lynch and Shanahan are getting let off the hook. The media is playing along too.

Good luck holding a coach and GM accountable as fans… especially when fans don't agree on what is best for the team or what is happening and what has happened.

And even if fans could agree on these things, what does holding Kyle and CO accountable even mean and how is it accomplished? These guys have been wildly successful overall… we going to write a strongly worded letter, lol?

The NFL is a meritocracy. Successful coaches and GM's put that above all else. Those who's ego causes them to hang on to their mistakes, instead of putting them behind them, and those that influence thier decisions because of past prices paid for assets (the past doesn't matter, only the future), are losers, and Not For Long.

Originally posted by BOI49er:
The NFL is a meritocracy. Successful coaches and GM's put that above all else. Those who's ego causes them to hang on to their mistakes, instead of putting them behind them, and those that influence thier decisions because of past prices paid for assets (the past doesn't matter, only the future), are losers, and Not For Long.

Agreed. These guys have course corrected and are clearly adaptable. That's what we want.

Just want the dang season to start already lol

Originally posted by Montana:

Originally posted by KowboyKiller:
Y. A. Purdle

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Originally posted by 49ersRing:

Originally posted by Memphis9er:

Originally posted by 49ersRing:

Originally posted by Memphis9er:

Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by Pillbusta:

Originally posted by Furlow:

Originally posted by Paul_Hofer:
Some of Purdy's inaccuracies might have to do with an arm that's probably stronger now than ever. All the work he's put in on that arm. Many of the errant throws seemed to be overthrown. Fifty yards in the air. He may just need to adjust his angles. With a full TC, we should be confident he will.

Purdy is throwing 50 yard passes wtf?

Work ethic!

I actually think this may be part of the issue with his overthrows. Not necessarily because of the rehab alone but his entire body is bigger and stronger, you can tell he's working out. So just the power and torque coming from his lower body is probably more. Mix in some rust, I think it makes sense. Lol

That's at least my crackpot theory.

Hope he does come out of this with a stronger arm.

That TD throw that Kittle stole from Ray-Ray against the Commanders was 45 yards in the air. The myth of Brock not having a good arm is from his college days. He's added velocity (reportedly 5-6 mph) since then with the same guy he has been working with to get back into shape. Not to mention that there are less than one throw a game of forty yards or more from the top guys with cannons for arms. Arm strength is one of the least important abilities of a quarterback, all they need is to be adequate and accurate.

Well most NFL QBs can throw a 45 yard pass.

Here's Nick Mullens, who most would agree has a below average arm by NFL standards, casually hitting a 45-50 yard pass.



Velocity is the most important aspect of arm strength, imo. You mentioned Brock's velocity improving and while Brock has improved his velocity since college, based on what we saw last year in actual games he's average at best in that department.

His arm is plenty strong enough. Keep trying though.

Plenty strong enough for what?

Tiddlywinks...

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by Giedi:

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by Giedi:
Agree💯% with you Doc. I truly believe that Brock would have been the first ever Rookie QB Super bowl winner the way the Eagles and Mahomes looked in the playoffs. (P.S. I have my 49er rose colored glasses on)

Idk if we would of won but we had a very real chance. Very very real.

The way Brock was playing, my gut said extremely Real. Oh well on to this year and hopefully better results. Shanahan's Got to get that 2nd Tight end up to speed to keep Brock healthy, wealthy, and wise.

Do we know which team Latu is running with? I'm assuming 2nd. I hope he has a great camp.

i think huff is going to be much better too. I'm so damn excited for this season.

Agrew 💯%, Latu is running probably with the 2's, as George is with the 1's. The whole secondary had a bunch of draft capital invested in it this off-season, it better be better! 😬

Purdy's vision as a QB was lights out his rookie year. Jimmy could only handle one guy on an option route, most of the time. The next level for Brock would be two guys running option routs. Another thing I want to see more of in preseason is the scramble drills.

Originally posted by riverrunzthruit:
It's amazing how nobody wanted this dude in the draft, and we throw a flyer on him as the last pick.

BCB would easily be a top 5 pick now, curious if teams would trade away additional picks to trade up to draft him like we did with TL.

Brock is amazing. It took a veteran Matt Ryan two whole years to master Kyle's offense, a little longer with Jimmy, but Brock had it humming his rookie year. Brock just needs a decent right tackle and this offense is super bowl ready.

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by 49ersRing:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by Giedi:
A good strong run game will reduce the need for a QB with a rocket arm. Having said that, I agree, Brock has a good NFL arm. It's not weak by my standards - as you said that pass that Kittle stole is a great example of his arm.

Every single nfl QB can make that throw. I've seen Tyler Hennicke make similar throws and he's got a weak ass arm. His arm isn't a positive, it's just not. I would put it towards the bottom of the league as far as starting QBs go. His arm wasn't what made him good last yr. It was the collection of talent around him. Play calling and him being about to diagnose quickly. We will see how it all goes with more film on him. Sounds like he's up for the challenge and he's got the moxie to be QB1.

Again, a pretty equivalent throw in terms of arm strength from Nick Mullens:



Let's not kid ourselves, Purdy's arm strength, from what we've seen, is nothing special and adequate at best. He doesn't need great arm strength to be highly successful in this offense. Like Barrows said, he doesn't need to be a super star, just a distributor. I do find it weird that some here will say that arm strength isn't important, but elsewhere try to argue that Purdy's arm strength is above average, which seems to indicate that they do care about it after all.

Bingo, imo there's no reason to pretend he's got something he doesn't. It's okay, you don't have to have laser rocket arm to be successful. You do need to become more accurate and anticipate much quicker. You might be able to get away with some of it early, but if you don't have those other traits (elite level) you will get exposed. We will see where Brock is at this yr…if he's not that guy, we've wasted yet another yr of developing the guy that both Lynch/kyle had no problem attaching their careers to

I mean he was the last pick in the draft because of the lack of that true arm talent, his size and overall he never got any better in college. Not sure why people are trying to change the truth of it…especially when they're the ones that are saying arm strength doesn't matter.

Who has said Purdy has a laser rocket arm? You twisting my words to try and make your point? That's strawman bs. He didn't have a below average arm to begin with, the coach he was working with got his velocity up from average 50-51 mph to 55-56 mph, which is on the high side of average. Don't twist my words because you're unhappy with Trey being forced to compete for the backup job. I'm not happy with Sam Darnold getting more reps than him myself. We dont know what is going on behind the scenes, maybe there's something we dont know about. You shouldn't get so emotionally invested into players until they earn it. It will save you getting so frustrated that you start twisting peoples words into something you can attack just to appease your frustrations.

Originally posted by 49ersRing:
Again, a pretty equivalent throw in terms of arm strength from Nick Mullens:



Let's not kid ourselves, Purdy's arm strength, from what we've seen, is nothing special and adequate at best. He doesn't need great arm strength to be highly successful in this offense. Like Barrows said, he doesn't need to be a super star, just a distributor. I do find it weird that some here will say that arm strength isn't important, but elsewhere try to argue that Purdy's arm strength is above average, which seems to indicate that they do care about it after all.

They need more than a distributor Jimmy was a distributor and it wasn't good enough. It feels like this organization is settling with a distributor. We'll see only time will tell if Brock is more than that.

Originally posted by Giedi:
Brock is amazing. It took a veteran Matt Ryan two whole years to master Kyle's offense, a little longer with Jimmy, but Brock had it humming his rookie year. Brock just needs a decent right tackle and this offense is super bowl ready.

Purdy's athleticism, pocket presence, accuracy, touch, vision, decision making, were all overlooked. It does help that he's in the perfect system with weapons all around him though.

Originally posted by eric_anthony:
They need more than a distributor Jimmy was a distributor and it wasn't good enough. It feels like this organization is settling with a distributor. We'll see only time will tell if Brock is more than that.

Wrong. No it doesn't. Jimmy couldn't throw outside the numbers or 15 yards down field. Not So Brock.

Originally posted by DonnieDarko:

Originally posted by Giedi:
Brock is amazing. It took a veteran Matt Ryan two whole years to master Kyle's offense, a little longer with Jimmy, but Brock had it humming his rookie year. Brock just needs a decent right tackle and this offense is super bowl ready.

Purdy's athleticism, pocket presence, accuracy, touch, vision, decision making, were all overlooked. It does help that he's in the perfect system with weapons all around him though.

You just can't tell what's between the ears from a college background. Good or Bad.

Originally posted by Memphis9er:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by 49ersRing:

Originally posted by NYniner85:

Originally posted by Giedi:
A good strong run game will reduce the need for a QB with a rocket arm. Having said that, I agree, Brock has a good NFL arm. It's not weak by my standards - as you said that pass that Kittle stole is a great example of his arm.

Every single nfl QB can make that throw. I've seen Tyler Hennicke make similar throws and he's got a weak ass arm. His arm isn't a positive, it's just not. I would put it towards the bottom of the league as far as starting QBs go. His arm wasn't what made him good last yr. It was the collection of talent around him. Play calling and him being about to diagnose quickly. We will see how it all goes with more film on him. Sounds like he's up for the challenge and he's got the moxie to be QB1.

Again, a pretty equivalent throw in terms of arm strength from Nick Mullens:



Let's not kid ourselves, Purdy's arm strength, from what we've seen, is nothing special and adequate at best. He doesn't need great arm strength to be highly successful in this offense. Like Barrows said, he doesn't need to be a super star, just a distributor. I do find it weird that some here will say that arm strength isn't important, but elsewhere try to argue that Purdy's arm strength is above average, which seems to indicate that they do care about it after all.

Bingo, imo there's no reason to pretend he's got something he doesn't. It's okay, you don't have to have laser rocket arm to be successful. You do need to become more accurate and anticipate much quicker. You might be able to get away with some of it early, but if you don't have those other traits (elite level) you will get exposed. We will see where Brock is at this yr…if he's not that guy, we've wasted yet another yr of developing the guy that both Lynch/kyle had no problem attaching their careers to

I mean he was the last pick in the draft because of the lack of that true arm talent, his size and overall he never got any better in college. Not sure why people are trying to change the truth of it…especially when they're the ones that are saying arm strength doesn't matter.

Who has said Purdy has a laser rocket arm? You twisting my words to try and make your point? That's strawman bs. He didn't have a below average arm to begin with, the coach he was working with got his velocity up from average 50-51 mph to 55-56 mph, which is on the high side of average. Don't twist my words because you're unhappy with Trey being forced to compete for the backup job. I'm not happy with Sam Darnold getting more reps than him myself. We dont know what is going on behind the scenes, maybe there's something we dont know about. You shouldn't get so emotionally invested into players until they earn it. It will save you getting so frustrated that you start twisting peoples words into something you can attack just to appease your frustrations.

Brock Purdy was the last pick not because of arm strength. it's because scouts are lazy. All they see is a big school, big arm, athletic ability, and that's who they want to draft. This same mistake has been made over and over again. Scouts and fans just continue to make the same stupid mistake. I have a lot of respect for Steve Smith. He's right on here.