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QB Brock Purdy Thread
QB Brock Purdy Thread
Jul 28, 2023 at 1:44 AM
- 49ers808
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Man I'm still surprised and stoked that Purdy is already practicing
Jul 28, 2023 at 2:18 AM
- 5_Golden_Rings
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Originally posted by Memphis9er:
Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:
Originally posted by tankle104:
Originally posted by Pillbusta:
Originally posted by Furlow:
Originally posted by Paul_Hofer:
Some of Purdy's inaccuracies might have to do with an arm that's probably stronger now than ever. All the work he's put in on that arm. Many of the errant throws seemed to be overthrown. Fifty yards in the air. He may just need to adjust his angles. With a full TC, we should be confident he will.
Purdy is throwing 50 yard passes wtf?
Work ethic!
I actually think this may be part of the issue with his overthrows. Not necessarily because of the rehab alone but his entire body is bigger and stronger, you can tell he's working out. So just the power and torque coming from his lower body is probably more. Mix in some rust, I think it makes sense. Lol
That's at least my crackpot theory.
Hope he does come out of this with a stronger arm.
That TD throw that Kittle stole from Ray-Ray against the Commanders was 45 yards in the air. The myth of Brock not having a good arm is from his college days. He's added velocity (reportedly 5-6 mph) since then with the same guy he has been working with to get back into shape. Not to mention that there are less than one throw a game of forty yards or more from the top guys with cannons for arms. Arm strength is one of the least important abilities of a quarterback, all they need is to be adequate and accurate.
And you can see his limitations on his arm with that interception against the Raiders. Also, arm strength isn't just about the long ball. It reduces the margin of error in multiple facets of quarterbacking. If his arm gets a bit stronger, he doesn't have to be 100% right every single time. He can be slightly late and still get it there. People here just do not get it, probably because of the Jimmy Club.
Should Purdy's continued work on his body and his technique give him a little bit more arm strength, he's going to be better at almost every type of play and throw, because his margin for error will increase.
Jul 28, 2023 at 4:17 AM
- Pillbusta
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Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:
And you can see his limitations on his arm with that interception against the Raiders. Also, arm strength isn't just about the long ball. It reduces the margin of error in multiple facets of quarterbacking. If his arm gets a bit stronger, he doesn't have to be 100% right every single time. He can be slightly late and still get it there. People here just do not get it, probably because of the Jimmy Club.
Should Purdy's continued work on his body and his technique give him a little bit more arm strength, he's going to be better at almost every type of play and throw, because his margin for error will increase.
Brock went toe to toe with Hurts in college who went toe to toe with Mahomes this Super Bowl so I'm optimistic that Brock will be competitive
I just want him to be able to beat those guys. Once I see that I can then stomach shelving Trey for the greater good
Brock has earned this shot with his play last year so if he's ready to go I'll cheer him on because with this roster we can bear eating three firsts if we have to and especially if we're going to win now more than we did with Jimmy G
Jul 28, 2023 at 6:02 AM
- 5_Golden_Rings
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Originally posted by Pillbusta:
Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:
And you can see his limitations on his arm with that interception against the Raiders. Also, arm strength isn't just about the long ball. It reduces the margin of error in multiple facets of quarterbacking. If his arm gets a bit stronger, he doesn't have to be 100% right every single time. He can be slightly late and still get it there. People here just do not get it, probably because of the Jimmy Club.
Should Purdy's continued work on his body and his technique give him a little bit more arm strength, he's going to be better at almost every type of play and throw, because his margin for error will increase.
Brock went toe to toe with Hurts in college who went toe to toe with Mahomes this Super Bowl so I'm optimistic that Brock will be competitive
I just want him to be able to beat those guys. Once I see that I can then stomach shelving Trey for the greater good
Brock has earned this shot with his play last year so if he's ready to go I'll cheer him on because with this roster we can bear eating three firsts if we have to and especially if we're going to win now more than we did with Jimmy G
I mean I was just pointing out that Brock having a bit more arm strength makes him a better player, despite the insane take that it does not (most likely brought about by years of Jimmy apologist reflexes). IF he did get swole in a way that helps the torque he can get on a throw, then by god he's improved and become more dangerous—and not just because he can throw it two yards further; rather because he can be a tiny bit later on a read and still get it there on time.
Jul 28, 2023 at 6:35 AM
- NYniner85
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Originally posted by Pillbusta:
Brock went toe to toe with Hurts in college who went toe to toe with Mahomes this Super Bowl so I'm optimistic that Brock will be competitive
I just want him to be able to beat those guys. Once I see that I can then stomach shelving Trey for the greater good
Brock has earned this shot with his play last year so if he's ready to go I'll cheer him on because with this roster we can bear eating three firsts if we have to and especially if we're going to win now more than we did with Jimmy G
So we're doing 6 degrees of separation to say Brock will be competitive with the top tier QBs?
yes he's earned his shot to be the starter going into YR1. I think that's all he's earned. He shouldn't get carte blanche at making mistakes this yr and have no repercussions. Last yr is last yr and if you can't maintain the play, then there's two other guys that should get in there.
As far as his arm strength, that is what it is. It's never gonna be a positive trait of his. He will have to rely on being more anticipatory with his throws (like Brees).
Jul 28, 2023 at 6:37 AM
- NYniner85
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Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:
I mean I was just pointing out that Brock having a bit more arm strength makes him a better player, despite the insane take that it does not (most likely brought about by years of Jimmy apologist reflexes). IF he did get swole in a way that helps the torque he can get on a throw, then by god he's improved and become more dangerous—and not just because he can throw it two yards further; rather because he can be a tiny bit later on a read and still get it there on time.
His arm strength will never be a positive trait, is what it is. He will have to be a more anticipatory thrower, like Brees was.
Jul 28, 2023 at 7:04 AM
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Originally posted by 49ers808:
Man I'm still surprised and stoked that Purdy is already practicing
After seeing him not be able to throw at all to seeing him throw nice spirals, it's awesome.
The Raiders game, it was a bit zzz on defense in that game but what was cool is that the offense was so killer, it didn't matter. Damn good game, close af but damn good:)
I also hope he is not being too pressured as far as playing goes. I was very not happy they put him back on the field after he got injured..no way in hell was that even a good idea. They should have done wildcat with CMC. It was over anyway. But today is today & he is looking good. Hopefully, he just continues to get stronger and healthier. I wouldn't use him in the preseason much, just put Sam or Trey in there for that.
[ Edited by Montana on Jul 28, 2023 at 7:04 AM ]
Jul 28, 2023 at 7:13 AM
- NineFourNiner
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Let's hope he has no ill effects today.
Jul 28, 2023 at 7:22 AM
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Originally posted by Memphis9er:
Originally posted by 49ersRing:
Originally posted by Memphis9er:
Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:
Originally posted by tankle104:
Originally posted by Pillbusta:
Originally posted by Furlow:
Originally posted by Paul_Hofer:
Some of Purdy's inaccuracies might have to do with an arm that's probably stronger now than ever. All the work he's put in on that arm. Many of the errant throws seemed to be overthrown. Fifty yards in the air. He may just need to adjust his angles. With a full TC, we should be confident he will.
Purdy is throwing 50 yard passes wtf?
Work ethic!
I actually think this may be part of the issue with his overthrows. Not necessarily because of the rehab alone but his entire body is bigger and stronger, you can tell he's working out. So just the power and torque coming from his lower body is probably more. Mix in some rust, I think it makes sense. Lol
That's at least my crackpot theory.
Hope he does come out of this with a stronger arm.
That TD throw that Kittle stole from Ray-Ray against the Commanders was 45 yards in the air. The myth of Brock not having a good arm is from his college days. He's added velocity (reportedly 5-6 mph) since then with the same guy he has been working with to get back into shape. Not to mention that there are less than one throw a game of forty yards or more from the top guys with cannons for arms. Arm strength is one of the least important abilities of a quarterback, all they need is to be adequate and accurate.
Well most NFL QBs can throw a 45 yard pass.
Here's Nick Mullens, who most would agree has a below average arm by NFL standards, casually hitting a 45-50 yard pass.
Velocity is the most important aspect of arm strength, imo. You mentioned Brock's velocity improving and while Brock has improved his velocity since college, based on what we saw last year in actual games he's average at best in that department.
His arm is plenty strong enough. Keep trying though.
Plenty strong enough for what?
Jul 28, 2023 at 7:32 AM
- JoseCortez
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Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:
Originally posted by Memphis9er:
Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:
Originally posted by tankle104:
Originally posted by Pillbusta:
Originally posted by Furlow:
Originally posted by Paul_Hofer:
Some of Purdy's inaccuracies might have to do with an arm that's probably stronger now than ever. All the work he's put in on that arm. Many of the errant throws seemed to be overthrown. Fifty yards in the air. He may just need to adjust his angles. With a full TC, we should be confident he will.
Purdy is throwing 50 yard passes wtf?
Work ethic!
I actually think this may be part of the issue with his overthrows. Not necessarily because of the rehab alone but his entire body is bigger and stronger, you can tell he's working out. So just the power and torque coming from his lower body is probably more. Mix in some rust, I think it makes sense. Lol
That's at least my crackpot theory.
Hope he does come out of this with a stronger arm.
That TD throw that Kittle stole from Ray-Ray against the Commanders was 45 yards in the air. The myth of Brock not having a good arm is from his college days. He's added velocity (reportedly 5-6 mph) since then with the same guy he has been working with to get back into shape. Not to mention that there are less than one throw a game of forty yards or more from the top guys with cannons for arms. Arm strength is one of the least important abilities of a quarterback, all they need is to be adequate and accurate.
And you can see his limitations on his arm with that interception against the Raiders. Also, arm strength isn't just about the long ball. It reduces the margin of error in multiple facets of quarterbacking. If his arm gets a bit stronger, he doesn't have to be 100% right every single time. He can be slightly late and still get it there. People here just do not get it, probably because of the Jimmy Club.
Should Purdy's continued work on his body and his technique give him a little bit more arm strength, he's going to be better at almost every type of play and throw, because his margin for error will increase.
Im so tired of people claiming arm strength as a necessity. Yes it is a luxury, not a necessity. Drew Brees, Montana, Brady say hi. I would much rather have elite accuracy and processing over arm strength 7 days of the week.
Jul 28, 2023 at 7:52 AM
- Bangbang89
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If he looks bad again today, is it just rust?
Jul 28, 2023 at 7:56 AM
- 49ersRing
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Originally posted by Bangbang89:
If he looks bad again today, is it just rust?
Yea, probably. It's just day 2.
Jul 28, 2023 at 7:58 AM
- YACBros85
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Originally posted by 49ersRing:
Originally posted by Bangbang89:
If he looks bad again today, is it just rust?
Yea, probably. It's just day 2.
Yea. I would give Brock atleast 5-6 practices before I would even think about becoming concerned.
Jul 28, 2023 at 8:05 AM
- Pillbusta
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Originally posted by NYniner85:
So we're doing 6 degrees of separation to say Brock will be competitive with the top tier QBs?
yes he's earned his shot to be the starter going into YR1. I think that's all he's earned. He shouldn't get carte blanche at making mistakes this yr and have no repercussions. Last yr is last yr and if you can't maintain the play, then there's two other guys that should get in there.
As far as his arm strength, that is what it is. It's never gonna be a positive trait of his. He will have to rely on being more anticipatory with his throws (like Brees).
I recognize Trey as the higher ceiling prospect and I am VERY upset that we have not made every attempt to realize our significant investment in him, however, I have to root for the players that are gonna play on Sundays. It may well yet be Trey but it sure seems like Shanahan is hellbent on giving Brock the lion's share of reps with the 1s while making Trey split time with Darnold and Allen.
I am also stating that if Kyle is gonna trot out Purdy on Sundays then he BETTER be able to take his lesser measurables and then be able to take what is in between his ears and beat Hurts and Mahomes and that ilk or else we are no better than we were with Jimmy out there. If we are gonna spend three firsts selecting a raw prospect and then NOT make every effort to develop him then Brock better damn well be Drew Brees or at least just win us a Super Bowl because us getting rid of Jimmy was supposed to be about just that
[ Edited by Pillbusta on Jul 28, 2023 at 8:11 AM ]
Jul 28, 2023 at 8:08 AM
- JoseCortez
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Originally posted by Bangbang89:
If he looks bad again today, is it just rust?
Lol
