QB Brock Purdy Thread

Originally posted by pasodoc9er:
agree with both of you, but that's what 4 yrs starting in the Big 10 (oops, big 12) does for a QB. Doesn't hurt , also, that he was Arizona #1 HS football player of the yr prior to going to Iowa State. Big time competition, and 4 yrs worth of starting = Brock. IIRC , he also turned down a walk-on offer from ALA, so he could go to big time conference and have a real good chance of starting right out of HS. He's got the brains, the muscle, the awareness (as in when OL has broken down or someone missed a blitzer)...ok, call it a 7th sense...but whatever, he has it... Put him together with a great Offensive coach/HC, and a schid load of talent, and you not only get Brock but Brock with all the items needed to win it all. Only a damn freak UCL injury kept him and the team from winning the NFCCG and then beating the best QB and a great team in the SB.

Yeah, if he is successful going forward - it'll be very interesting to study why he was missed on so bad.

but like you said, he's been the "man" really since he was 15 leading the varsity team to new heights in high school. He did that for three years and then what he did in college (everything you said was accurate but I think bama offered him a scholarship. He didn't like how Saban didn't even really know him and told his dad he would rather build up Iowa state. Super cool).

Numerous doctors who specialize in his injury have said he should look just like before when he heals up.

he's been throwing since late May (ahead of schedule), so when he reports for camp - he'll be at least 2/3 of the way through rehab. He's been throwing regulation size footballs for a few weeks too.

he's also been with his private qb coach in Jacksonville to hone his mechanics. Been working on his timing/playbook m/footwork since the off season started. Studying a lot of film and also was able to get a majority of the teaching at mini camp - just missed some light throwing sessions.

im amped man. I can't wait to see how he looks when we get things started. He may start on PUP but I'm okay with that.

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by pasodoc9er:
agree with both of you, but that's what 4 yrs starting in the Big 10 (oops, big 12) does for a QB. Doesn't hurt , also, that he was Arizona #1 HS football player of the yr prior to going to Iowa State. Big time competition, and 4 yrs worth of starting = Brock. IIRC , he also turned down a walk-on offer from ALA, so he could go to big time conference and have a real good chance of starting right out of HS. He's got the brains, the muscle, the awareness (as in when OL has broken down or someone missed a blitzer)...ok, call it a 7th sense...but whatever, he has it... Put him together with a great Offensive coach/HC, and a schid load of talent, and you not only get Brock but Brock with all the items needed to win it all. Only a damn freak UCL injury kept him and the team from winning the NFCCG and then beating the best QB and a great team in the SB.

Yeah, if he is successful going forward - it'll be very interesting to study why he was missed on so bad.

but like you said, he's been the "man" really since he was 15 leading the varsity team to new heights in high school. He did that for three years and then what he did in college (everything you said was accurate but I think bama offered him a scholarship. He didn't like how Saban didn't even really know him and told his dad he would rather build up Iowa state. Super cool).

Numerous doctors who specialize in his injury have said he should look just like before when he heals up.

he's been throwing since late May (ahead of schedule), so when he reports for camp - he'll be at least 2/3 of the way through rehab. He's been throwing regulation size footballs for a few weeks too.

he's also been with his private qb coach in Jacksonville to hone his mechanics. Been working on his timing/playbook m/footwork since the off season started. Studying a lot of film and also was able to get a majority of the teaching at mini camp - just missed some light throwing sessions.

im amped man. I can't wait to see how he looks when we get things started. He may start on PUP but I'm okay with that.

His leadership adds the fact he was working hard in the off-season on his mechanics and coming back from his injury. Any QB on the niners is going to have good pocket awareness on the right side until things gel as I hope they do.

Brock has the great leadership qualities as mentioned to take the offense to the next step. Now it's just his recovery and growth for our offense to flourish 🙏.

I too am amped to see what we have. It's been a long off-season after the philly haze I kind of remember lol.

Originally posted by bassmanr:
His leadership adds the fact he was working hard in the off-season on his mechanics and coming back from his injury. Any QB on the niners is going to have good pocket awareness on the right side until things gel as I hope they do.

Brock has the great leadership qualities as mentioned to take the offense to the next step. Now it's just his recovery and growth for our offense to flourish 🙏.

I too am amped to see what we have. It's been a long off-season after the philly haze I kind of remember lol.

It was such a magical run.. lol then just ripped out from us.

it was like I just bought a dream home and then as I moved in, everything flooded. So I had to wait and see if the repairs were going to work out and if the house would be back to it's old self 😭:

I wish we could get some updates from his private coaches. They discussed some last year but not a ton. He should be finishing up anytime, if not already. Camp starts next week, right?

Seriously someone like Bryce Young is ranked higher in madden then Brock and the guy hasn't played one single damn snap of actual pro football. I know it doesn't really mean diddly squat but for hell's sake you've got a guy who has more playoff wins then someone like Dak or whoever and he's ranked below these other quarterbacks. I'm sorry but screw that s**t that's BS.

Originally posted by ninerjok:
Seriously someone like Bryce Young is ranked higher in madden then Brock and the guy hasn't played one single damn snap of actual pro football. I know it doesn't really mean diddly squat but for hell's sake you've got a guy who has more playoff wins then someone like Dak or whoever and he's ranked below these other quarterbacks. I'm sorry but screw that s**t that's BS.

It's not even the fact that he's won a playoff game, it's how he did it. Setting and/or tying numerous records for rookies and first time play off appearances. Helped Elevate the offense to 33Ppg during the regular season. Highest QBr in the nfl during his run, great TD-INT ratio.

what annoys me about what people say regarding kyles offense is "it's very qb friendly" but it's also "very complex and takes a few years to master". So what is it? Super easy or very difficult?

He clearly out played any other 49ers qb that's been here under shanahan. He def has a lot of weapons but he used them better than anyone else has been able to and get did it with essentially no practice snaps! (Starters).

he should be at least ranked what Jimmy is but with more speed hahaha but it's just madden, who gives an eff. That's what happens when a bunch of nerds who don't know football outside analytics get involved.

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by pasodoc9er:
agree with both of you, but that's what 4 yrs starting in the Big 10 (oops, big 12) does for a QB. Doesn't hurt , also, that he was Arizona #1 HS football player of the yr prior to going to Iowa State. Big time competition, and 4 yrs worth of starting = Brock. IIRC , he also turned down a walk-on offer from ALA, so he could go to big time conference and have a real good chance of starting right out of HS. He's got the brains, the muscle, the awareness (as in when OL has broken down or someone missed a blitzer)...ok, call it a 7th sense...but whatever, he has it... Put him together with a great Offensive coach/HC, and a schid load of talent, and you not only get Brock but Brock with all the items needed to win it all. Only a damn freak UCL injury kept him and the team from winning the NFCCG and then beating the best QB and a great team in the SB.

Yeah, if he is successful going forward - it'll be very interesting to study why he was missed on so bad.

but like you said, he's been the "man" really since he was 15 leading the varsity team to new heights in high school. He did that for three years and then what he did in college (everything you said was accurate but I think bama offered him a scholarship. He didn't like how Saban didn't even really know him and told his dad he would rather build up Iowa state. Super cool).

Numerous doctors who specialize in his injury have said he should look just like before when he heals up.

he's been throwing since late May (ahead of schedule), so when he reports for camp - he'll be at least 2/3 of the way through rehab. He's been throwing regulation size footballs for a few weeks too.

he's also been with his private qb coach in Jacksonville to hone his mechanics. Been working on his timing/playbook m/footwork since the off season started. Studying a lot of film and also was able to get a majority of the teaching at mini camp - just missed some light throwing sessions.

im amped man. I can't wait to see how he looks when we get things started. He may start on PUP but I'm okay with that.

Re: how Brock got to Iowa St,: Saban had one starter for sure and was not certain about who would be there or would transfer elsewhere, plus other young QBs and transfers were of course looking at ALA. We were both right in that initially Brock was invited with no scholarship. Then Boise St offered him a free ride, and Saban got nervous and offered up the free ride at ALA. What Brock could see tho, was that he wasn't starting as a freshman at ALA, and when the Iowa State full scholarship was offered, Brock had seen that he definitely would have a shot at starting his first yr. On top of that, State's starting QB got injured his first game and it was all Brock after that So besides the talent, 6th or 7th sense when OL takes a powder, accuracy (57 TDs his last yr and only 9 INTS) , strength, durability, also added 10 running TDs, the kid is also smart…as in he knew he would be seeing big time conference competition (at Iowa St), but he also figured he had a good shot at starting there his first yr.

We've all seen him play, and the only question is one you alluded to earlier…how the hell was he missed by 31 other GMs and HCs,( 7 times each) and even his eventual team, passed on him until last player in last round? Really, that is the question for the year…what didn't every other NFL team see? Credit to John and Kyle for taking him before he hit UDFA…a good bet would be that other teams just planned on taking him in FA, without giving up a pick. Talk about short sighted…. To be perfectly honest, we lucked out our backsides when we took him as last player in draft. OTOH, we were due for a bunch of good luck, with all the krapt that has befallen the 9ers in the last 5 yrs. In summary…we wuz lucky. Real lucky.

Needless to say, Lady Luck took away her charm in NFCCG when Brock tore his UCL just after the game had started. Worse yet, our 4th string Qb was injured leaving us with NO QB, to finish the game. We weren't going to win without Brock, but still, Lady Luck really took a dump on us…perhaps just to show us we had gotten TOO lucky by picking Brock as last pick in draft. Now that the new season is here, let's start over and not gloat about our good luck. To be sure: Brock isn't luck…he is talent, brains, intuition, a natural leader, and one whale of a tremendous QB….plus he's a really good kid. Man i like our chances this yr…to win it all.

Originally posted by pasodoc9er:
Re: how Brock got to Iowa St,: Saban had one starter for sure and was not certain about who would be there or would transfer elsewhere, plus other young QBs and transfers were of course looking at ALA. We were both right in that initially Brock was invited with no scholarship. Then Boise St offered him a free ride, and Saban got nervous and offered up the free ride at ALA. What Brock could see tho, was that he wasn't starting as a freshman at ALA, and when the Iowa State full scholarship was offered, Brock had seen that he definitely would have a shot at starting his first yr. On top of that, State's starting QB got injured his first game and it was all Brock after that So besides the talent, 6th or 7th sense when OL takes a powder, accuracy (57 TDs his last yr and only 9 INTS) , strength, durability, also added 10 running TDs, the kid is also smart…as in he knew he would be seeing big time conference competition (at Iowa St), but he also figured he had a good shot at starting there his first yr.

We've all seen him play, and the only question is one you alluded to earlier…how the hell was he missed by 31 other GMs and HCs,( 7 times each) and even his eventual team, passed on him until last player in last round? Really, that is the question for the year…what didn't every other NFL team see? Credit to John and Kyle for taking him before he hit UDFA…a good bet would be that other teams just planned on taking him in FA, without giving up a pick. Talk about short sighted…. To be perfectly honest, we lucked out our backsides when we took him as last player in draft. OTOH, we were due for a bunch of good luck, with all the krapt that has befallen the 9ers in the last 5 yrs. In summary…we wuz lucky. Real lucky.

Needless to say, Lady Luck took away her charm in NFCCG when Brock tore his UCL just after the game had started. Worse yet, our 4th string Qb was injured leaving us with NO QB, to finish the game. We weren't going to win without Brock, but still, Lady Luck really took a dump on us…perhaps just to show us we had gotten TOO lucky by picking Brock as last pick in draft. Now that the new season is here, let's start over and not gloat about our good luck. To be sure: Brock isn't luck…he is talent, brains, intuition, a natural leader, and one whale of a tremendous QB….plus he's a really good kid. Man i like our chances this yr…to win it all.

Appreciate the context. I also read in an article (from his dad) that he likes the feeling at Iowa state and felt really wanted. They knew him and had studied him, something Bama spent minimal time doing. So he also wanted to go where he felt wanted and where it felt more like "home".

but yes, he def had a better chance of starting earlier as a freshman than he would have at bama… dude can you imagine what bama would of dine with him? If mac jones was a first round pick - Brock def would have been.

we owe it all to Klint Kubiack and Brian Griese. Kyle told them he wanted to get a young prospect to mold and they came back to him with Brock. They were pounding the table for him and just loved him. That's why we actually used the last pick on him, they were speaking so high if him that the team didn't want to risk losing him in UDFA. So they assured he would be here.

So do I! If we can stay healthy, we should be favorites. Our d line should be awesome this year. Brock SHOULD be improved if he's fully healthy. I just love the way he leads and composed himself. It's like he doesn't blink and has unparalleled confidence in himself. That stuff oozes into the other players too, makes them more confident.

i can't freakin wait to see how he is when he's fully healed. I'm hoping it isn't bad news :( but now that he's had an off-season to review everything, work on the playbook/motions, his footwork, study his own film. Lol I don't see any reason why he shouldn't be improved, just hope his elbow injury doesn't linger.

Originally posted by ninerjok:
Seriously someone like Bryce Young is ranked higher in madden then Brock and the guy hasn't played one single damn snap of actual pro football. I know it doesn't really mean diddly squat but for hell's sake you've got a guy who has more playoff wins then someone like Dak or whoever and he's ranked below these other quarterbacks. I'm sorry but screw that s**t that's BS.

I mean,...you gotta ask yourself how many people are buying the game specifically to be "Brock" in character while playing it.

Then answer the same thing for BY and the answer is pretty obvious.

Keep in mind that their main motive is and will always be to sell as many video games as possible.

Originally posted by tankle104:
It's not even the fact that he's won a playoff game, it's how he did it. Setting and/or tying numerous records for rookies and first time play off appearances. Helped Elevate the offense to 33Ppg during the regular season. Highest QBr in the nfl during his run, great TD-INT ratio.

what annoys me about what people say regarding kyles offense is "it's very qb friendly" but it's also "very complex and takes a few years to master". So what is it? Super easy or very difficult?

He clearly out played any other 49ers qb that's been here under shanahan. He def has a lot of weapons but he used them better than anyone else has been able to and get did it with essentially no practice snaps! (Starters).

he should be at least ranked what Jimmy is but with more speed hahaha but it's just madden, who gives an eff. That's what happens when a bunch of nerds who don't know football outside analytics get involved.

Hear hear Tank!!!!

Anyone care to say or suggest on what the Doctor Steve was quoting was referring to?

I think it's all possible with Brock.

"But the problem is he tore a ligament. I was talking to Dr. ElAttrache who does a lot of these. We were talking about all of that. He said, first of all he would have done it differently. But that's just another opinion. One thing for sure, if it stays on track there is a six-month period to get it to full strength. The thing that's unusual is he does it for baseball all the time. He's done it three or four times for football, but not in the car wreck scenario the way that he described for Brock, so he's not sure. And so, he's not sure. No one can know exactly how it's going to go. If Brock is ready game one, it's not going to be one hundred percent. Anyone who says he can rip a pass six months later; I don't think it belies reality. Doesn't mean he can't play at ninety percent. We'll see how it goes. If he's ready, I'm sure they'll play him.
https://49ers.pressdemocrat.com/steve-young-on-brock-purdy-trey-lance-and-sam-darnold/

Originally posted by random49er:
Anyone care to say or suggest on what the Doctor Steve was quoting was referring to?

I think it's all possible with Brock.

"But the problem is he tore a ligament. I was talking to Dr. ElAttrache who does a lot of these. We were talking about all of that. He said, first of all he would have done it differently. But that's just another opinion. One thing for sure, if it stays on track there is a six-month period to get it to full strength. The thing that's unusual is he does it for baseball all the time. He's done it three or four times for football, but not in the car wreck scenario the way that he described for Brock, so he's not sure. And so, he's not sure. No one can know exactly how it's going to go. If Brock is ready game one, it's not going to be one hundred percent. Anyone who says he can rip a pass six months later; I don't think it belies reality. Doesn't mean he can't play at ninety percent. We'll see how it goes. If he's ready, I'm sure they'll play him.
https://49ers.pressdemocrat.com/steve-young-on-brock-purdy-trey-lance-and-sam-darnold/

First of all, Dr. elattrache sounds made up. Hahaha all jokes aside - I'm not a doctor but I interpret it as risk profile. You know? Like "do we attempt the better/quicker procedure when we may have to do the longer One regardless?". There is also the aspect that I think some docs, specifically older ones, probably still question this procedure since it's so young and lack of data.

from an ESPN article:
"The hope, based on multiple rounds of medical tests and opinions, was Purdy would have what is known as a UCL repair with InternalBrace augmentation. The repair requires no tendon graft to completely reconstruct the ligament -- making it less complex than the traditional UCL reconstruction, commonly known as Tommy John surgery. The typical five to seven month recovery would open the door for Purdy to return late in the summer, thus allowing the Niners to sign Pro Bowl defensive tackle Javon Hargrave to a four-year, $84 million contract and bring in Sam Darnold as a low-cost veteran quarterback option.

The fear was that once Purdy's ligament was exposed in the operating room, the visible damage would exceed the strict requirements for a repair and he would need Tommy John surgery, which comes with a lengthier recovery time. The extended return to play window would have jeopardized Purdy's 2023 season and forced the Niners to look at costlier quarterback alternatives at the expense of other roster upgrades.

The answer wouldn't become clear until Dr. Keith Meister opened up Purdy's right elbow.

"I just stayed positive and lived in hope because it would've been not so good if we had to go the other direction," Shanahan said. "There always was a chance of Tommy John."

A little more than a decade ago, the UCL repair option didn't exist; all athletes with UCL injuries severe enough to prevent them from being able to throw, regardless of the tissue quality of the damaged ligament, had to go with what had become the gold standard: Tommy John surgery.

But March 10, the Niners got the call from Meister, offering the Niners optimism that their presumptive starter could be back for the beginning of the 2023 season and, at minimum, guarantee his return early in the campaign. Purdy was able to go the InternalBrace route. That's no small thing for a team with a loaded roster that has been to three of the past four NFC championship games and is seeking its sixth Lombardi Trophy.

Purdy became the third professional quarterback to have the UCL repair with InternalBrace, joining ex-49er Nick Mullens, now with the Vikings, and Clayton Thorson, a fifth-round pick of the Eagles in 2019."

Originally posted by random49er:

Originally posted by ninerjok:
Seriously someone like Bryce Young is ranked higher in madden then Brock and the guy hasn't played one single damn snap of actual pro football. I know it doesn't really mean diddly squat but for hell's sake you've got a guy who has more playoff wins then someone like Dak or whoever and he's ranked below these other quarterbacks. I'm sorry but screw that s**t that's BS.

I mean,...you gotta ask yourself how many people are buying the game specifically to be "Brock" in character while playing it.

Then answer the same thing for BY and the answer is pretty obvious.

Keep in mind that their main motive is and will always be to sell as many video games as possible.

Plus we'd rather keep ourselves under the radar, underrated, whatever, then we just strike and knock everyone down.

Originally posted by 49ers808:

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by 49ers808:

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:

Originally posted by tankle104:
This guy actually was pretty accurate when it came to his strengths, then Brock worked on the other stuff. Very interesting

Here was my evaluation of Brock Purdy before he was drafted.

Definitely one of my best hits😂👇 pic.twitter.com/gtbZ7mcvOW

— Daniel Alameda (@AlamedaViews) July 20, 2023

estimated he would be a third round pick

He's better than that evaluation. But somewhat in the ballpark. Just a lot better IMO.

Oh I think he is too. I just find it interesting that some random dude had a much better evaluation on him than any NFL team did. Lol he said third round and everyone else was essentially UDFA. That's sad.

thays why I like to look at other peoples mocks cause you learn some really interesting things and some folks are actually really good at evaluating tape.

LOL dude watched 3 games from his 2019 Sophomore season, his best season. Maybe NFL teams watched more than that? And included his Junior and Senior seasons when he regressed. Playing captain hindsight is easy. Sometimes you try to hard tankle to prop this guy up everyday. We get it, you like him

Lmao I don't need to prop anyone up. Obviously teams were wrong, so there is nothing to prop up? Brocks body of work speaks for itself. He's QB1 for a reason.

Brock is the last QB on our roster that needs to be propped up. Lol that's why this thread is usually quiet in comparison to darnold/Lance.

it's just cool to see random posts like that where someone was much more accurate than most. Lol some of you guys take this stuff way to serious. Lmao like it's some war between the QBs to see who we can make look better.

anyone in their right mind knows that Brock is by far the best and most accomplished QB we have right now. Now we just let camp play out and see if that changes.

Lol then don't. You posting stuff everyday in this thread doesn't keep it quiet. You calling every NFL team sad because a random dude put 3rd round grade after watching 3 games from Purdys best college season isn't trying to prop him up above the last pick in the draft where he was actually drafted? Umm yeah okay. And you are one of the main ones participating in these "wars" and taking s**t seriously lol buttering up Purdy everyday like you're related and trying to take subtle jabs at Lance; bro it's easy to see right through it. Who argues with the last point you made?

Everything you just said is nonsense. Lol just block me if you don't like it. You contribute absolutely nothing. These threads are here to talk about players, if you don't like it - don't open the thread or block me.

im not subtle about anything, I say exactly who I like and who I'm very concerned about? I've been very vocal regarding my concerns for Lance but not everytbing I say is pointed at Lance, there are tons of other QBs it applies to. When I want to say something regarding Lance, I make it very clear. Idgaf if people on here know which players I like the most and which players I have my doubts about.

im not some insecure loser who is ashamed to admit if they were wrong. If my take on a player is wrong, then it's wrong. Who cares? You go back and figure out what you missed or what you were premature about and learn from it. Lol you know.. grow.. lmao

Originally posted by tankle104:
This guy actually was pretty accurate when it came to his strengths, then Brock worked on the other stuff. Very interesting

Here was my evaluation of Brock Purdy before he was drafted.

Definitely one of my best hits😂👇 pic.twitter.com/gtbZ7mcvOW

— Daniel Alameda (@AlamedaViews) July 20, 2023

estimated he would be a third round pick

So, in other words he has elite processing skills and needs to work on things that most rookies get fixed over time. We might have Drew Brees 2.0, which is more than enough for a franchise QB.