QB Brock Purdy Thread

Originally posted by krizay:

Originally posted by tankle104:
Does anyone know exactly how the emergency third QB will work roster wise? Does he have to be on the active? Or are they now allowed to count the practice squad qb as active on gameday?

im super curious how it works and how it affects who is active and who isn't, practice squad, and if we keep three on active roster

Emergency QB does not count as part as the 53

Incorrect. Has to be part of the 53. Which is dumb.

Breaking down the league's new 'Emergency Quarterback' rule

• Currently, NFL teams are allowed to carry a maximum of 48 players on their "Active List." In other words, they can suit up to 48 players for any given game including their players from their 53-man roster and those week's practice squad call-ups.
• The Active List size goes down to 47 if the team has fewer than eight active offensive linemen.
• The new rule gives teams the option to suit up an extra player for gameday provided it's an emergency third quarterback. Such a player would not count toward the maximum limit of 48 active players.
• The emergency third quarterback can only play if the other two quarterbacks are hurt and unable to continue to play.
• The emergency third quarterback MUST be a member of the team's 53-man roster. In other words, he can't be a practice squad call-up.

https://atozsports.com/nfl/nfl-everything-you-need-to-know-about-new-emergency-quarterback-rule-news/

Originally posted by tankle104:
Cause I don't live my life with "oh no, prepare for the absolute worst thing that can happen, no matter how unlikely it is".

what dont people realize - if you're down to you're third QB… YOURE 99.99% NOT WINNING THE SUPERBOWL. You sure as hell aren't beating Philly, Dallas, KC. Etc.

as much as people want to think this is a "plug any qb in and we will be contenders".. it's nonsense. Kyle has a mediocre win loss record cause he's been playing with QB2 & QB3.

every qb exceot Brock & jimmy have a winning record here with Kyle. Everyone else we have a .300 record of sometbing, bottom of the barrel.

if we are down to darnold, we are screwed anyways. Lol does having a body matter that much? Does it matter if it's darnold or allen? Just don't run Lance 15+ times a game like a moron and we will be fine.

if those guys go down with season ending injuries, it's over. Lol

it only worked last season cause our worst qb was starting and our best was third string. Jimmy was in the middle. Usually doesn't go that way - see every other team last year

You know that sound you hear, but ignore? It's the sound of someone's point going over your head.

The issue is not surrounding having to use your QB3 in the playoffs. It has to do with the season itself, where winning a game (or even a quarter or two late in an already established game) may make the difference between where your team is seeded.

Plus, the 49ers have three MASSIVE question marks at the QB position. Brock has a small sample size, is coming off a major injury, and teams have had an entire off season to study his tendencies. Lance is about as unknown a commodity as a player can be. Sam has a long history of being mediocre, with a sampling of good play here and there. Allen? Yeah no.

Keeping three QBs for the 49ers makes a hell of a lot of sense, because the current QB3 may end up being the QB1 who leads this team to the NFCCG in 2024. And however unlikely it is, it's even more unlikely that final roster spot is going to someone who may be more impactful. Maybe we need a third or forth active TE to block a top tier rusher. That usually works out well.

Originally posted by Polkadots:
You know that sound you hear, but ignore? It's the sound of someone's point going over your head.

The issue is not surrounding having to use your QB3 in the playoffs. It has to do with the season itself, where winning a game (or even a quarter or two late in an already established game) may make the difference between where your team is seeded.

Plus, the 49ers have three MASSIVE question marks at the QB position. Brock has a small sample size, is coming off a major injury, and teams have had an entire off season to study his tendencies. Lance is about as unknown a commodity as a player can be. Sam has a long history of being mediocre, with a sampling of good play here and there. Allen? Yeah no.

Keeping three QBs for the 49ers makes a hell of a lot of sense, because the current QB3 may end up being the QB1 who leads this team to the NFCCG in 2024. And however unlikely it is, it's even more unlikely that final roster spot is going to someone who may be more impactful. Maybe we need a third or forth active TE to block a top tier rusher. That usually works out well.

Yea, I don't think this is a big mystery. We'll run with three QB's unless someone blows us away with a trade offer… which I think we can safely assume isn't coming.

Originally posted by SteveWallacesHelmet:

Originally posted by tankle104:
Cause I don't live my life with "oh no, prepare for the absolute worst thing that can happen, no matter how unlikely it is".

what dont people realize - if you're down to you're third QB… YOURE 99.99% NOT WINNING THE SUPERBOWL. You sure as hell aren't beating Philly, Dallas, KC. Etc.

as much as people want to think this is a "plug any qb in and we will be contenders".. it's nonsense. Kyle has a mediocre win loss record cause he's been playing with QB2 & QB3.

every qb exceot Brock & jimmy have a winning record here with Kyle. Everyone else we have a .300 record of sometbing, bottom of the barrel.

if we are down to darnold, we are screwed anyways. Lol does having a body matter that much? Does it matter if it's darnold or allen? Just don't run Lance 15+ times a game like a moron and we will be fine.

if those guys go down with season ending injuries, it's over. Lol

it only worked last season cause our worst qb was starting and our best was third string. Jimmy was in the middle. Usually doesn't go that way - see every other team last year

I think we can beat Dallas with a 3rd string QB

Te he he. I think we'd have beaten Philly and KC also, but may never know. Honestly, I'm not sure the rule would have been changed had Purdy not performed the way he did and provided us with that shot.

Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:
Yea, I don't think this is a big mystery. We'll run with three QB's unless someone blows us away with a trade offer… which I think we can safely assume isn't coming.

Wish we'd freeze trade talk for a bit when none of the 3 guys we have have been fully vetted and tested. Well...aside from the one that came here to repair his career.

The only way you're trading 1 is if you're completely, 100% sure of the other. And it's pretty obvious that the coaches can't wait to get there,...but we aren't there just yet.

The value of being able to find out what you have at the QB position simply outweighs 2nd round draft picks.

Originally posted by random49er:
Wish we'd freeze trade talk for a bit when none of the 3 guys we have have been fully vetted and tested. Well...aside from the one that came here to repair his career.

The only way you're trading 1 is if you're completely, 100% sure of the other. And it's pretty obvious that the coaches can't wait to get there,...but we aren't there just yet.

The value of being able to find out what you have at the QB position simply outweighs 2nd round draft picks.

In theory, you'd trade the QB3 after you've seen the competition for QB2 and have a better idea of Brock's status.

To me, it's pretty much moot because we wouldn't get an offer of a 2nd round pick or better and QB trades don't happen right before the season starts. As we get closer and closer to the season, or into it, trade value is really going in only one direction.

Originally posted by Furlow:
Incorrect. Has to be part of the 53. Which is dumb.

Not dumb at all. Being able to elevate 2 guys from the practice squad to count in your 55, then being able to choose 48 of them to play, is plenty enough.

Why would a PS guy be instantly playing @ QB anyway? If the guy is that good, then cut someone and elevate him to the 3rd spot.

The 49th guy being able to dress is only as a contingency plan.

This is merely an extra allowance that helps the quality of football in emergencies. It's still on you as a team to try to have 3 solid guys within the 53.

So if Brock starts out on PUP, it's no biggie. Sounds like he may be on it regardless, but if he isn't - it's great news for his rehab

Originally posted by random49er:

Originally posted by Furlow:
Incorrect. Has to be part of the 53. Which is dumb.

Not dumb at all. Being able to elevate 2 guys from the practice squad to count in your 55, then being able to choose 48 of them to play, is plenty enough.

Why would a PS guy be instantly playing @ QB anyway? If the guy is that good, then cut someone and elevate him to the 3rd spot.

The 49th guy being able to dress is only as a contingency plan.

This is merely an extra allowance that helps the quality of football in emergencies. It's still on you as a team to try to have 3 solid guys within the 53.

So let's say Darnold is on the 53 (which is most likely), but not an active player - can he still go in as the emergency QB? Or does he have to be one of the guy who's active?

Originally posted by tankle104:
So let's say Darnold is on the 53 (which is most likely), but not an active player - can he still go in as the emergency QB? Or does he have to be one of the guy who's active?

Furlow answered this question just a few posts back

Originally posted by elguapo:
Hear hear! The referees cost us at Super Bowl just as much as anything. People like to say well, we should've played better however if the referees were calling an even game or even remotely close to one you could of said we would've kicked the Chiefs ass which we were doing and the Chiefs should've played a lot better as well. That roughing the passer no call to Jimmy was crucial as well as the blatant raping on Bosa on that third and 15 play.

If Brock can play just like a top 10 quarterback instead of a top 3 quarterback which was a level he was playing at last year we win a Super Bowl. As long as the defense remains top five, we win our 6th boys

I just want this team to stay healthy. Eagles were the healthiest team in the league last year. Chiefs were also pretty healthy for the most part. That is absolutely critical and we just haven't been able to avoid key injuries at the worst time. 2021 feels like the one that came closest to that but even there we had guys playing injured like Jimmy, injuries to Verrett hurting our CB play.

Dear football gods just give us one year where we stay relatively healthy and avoid injuries to key players and we're winning it all!

Originally posted by krizay:

Originally posted by tankle104:
So let's say Darnold is on the 53 (which is most likely), but not an active player - can he still go in as the emergency QB? Or does he have to be one of the guy who's active?

Furlow answered this question just a few posts back

Okay well that's cool - because it's fine having a third QB on the 53 but if he had to count towards the traditional amount of players suited up, they would of sucked.
Those few spots really matter on gameday and I'd rather they go towards Dline/Oline/CB. Where injuries are much more prevalent and can provide relief with rotating guys.

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by elguapo:
Hear hear! The referees cost us at Super Bowl just as much as anything. People like to say well, we should've played better however if the referees were calling an even game or even remotely close to one you could of said we would've kicked the Chiefs ass which we were doing and the Chiefs should've played a lot better as well. That roughing the passer no call to Jimmy was crucial as well as the blatant raping on Bosa on that third and 15 play.

If Brock can play just like a top 10 quarterback instead of a top 3 quarterback which was a level he was playing at last year we win a Super Bowl. As long as the defense remains top five, we win our 6th boys

I just want this team to stay healthy. Eagles were the healthiest team in the league last year. Chiefs were also pretty healthy for the most part. That is absolutely critical and we just haven't been able to avoid key injuries at the worst time. 2021 feels like the one that came closest to that but even there we had guys playing injured like Jimmy, injuries to Verrett hurting our CB play.

Dear football gods just give us one year where we stay relatively healthy and avoid injuries to key players and we're winning it all!

I agree if we are just in the top five or top 10 least injured teams, or just most of our key players being healthy (mainly our quarterback and Bosa), we can easily win a Super Bowl.

Originally posted by elguapo:

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by elguapo:
Hear hear! The referees cost us at Super Bowl just as much as anything. People like to say well, we should've played better however if the referees were calling an even game or even remotely close to one you could of said we would've kicked the Chiefs ass which we were doing and the Chiefs should've played a lot better as well. That roughing the passer no call to Jimmy was crucial as well as the blatant raping on Bosa on that third and 15 play.

If Brock can play just like a top 10 quarterback instead of a top 3 quarterback which was a level he was playing at last year we win a Super Bowl. As long as the defense remains top five, we win our 6th boys

I just want this team to stay healthy. Eagles were the healthiest team in the league last year. Chiefs were also pretty healthy for the most part. That is absolutely critical and we just haven't been able to avoid key injuries at the worst time. 2021 feels like the one that came closest to that but even there we had guys playing injured like Jimmy, injuries to Verrett hurting our CB play.

Dear football gods just give us one year where we stay relatively healthy and avoid injuries to key players and we're winning it all!

I agree if we are just in the top five or top 10 least injured teams, or just most of our key players being healthy (mainly our quarterback and Bosa), we can easily win a Super Bowl.

If we stay healthy. We have a great chance at winning the super bowl and should be given the best odds.

if not, we'll it'll end up the same way its been since harbaugh. If you don't have an elite qb, you need health. We haven't had either and that's a huge reason why we have failed every year towards the end

Originally posted by random49er:

Originally posted by Furlow:
Incorrect. Has to be part of the 53. Which is dumb.

Not dumb at all. Being able to elevate 2 guys from the practice squad to count in your 55, then being able to choose 48 of them to play, is plenty enough.

Why would a PS guy be instantly playing @ QB anyway? If the guy is that good, then cut someone and elevate him to the 3rd spot.

The 49th guy being able to dress is only as a contingency plan.

This is merely an extra allowance that helps the quality of football in emergencies. It's still on you as a team to try to have 3 solid guys within the 53.

It's dumb.