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Originally posted by tankle104:
I think Steve smith said it best about Purdy - scouts/teams focus too much on height, arm strength, and 40 speed - instead of what really matters.

Those measurable matter but not as much as people like to act like they are.

tank, you have been putting some great BP posts in here and keeping the BP optimism all offseason, it's great to see
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Originally posted by tankle104:
I think Steve smith said it best about Purdy - scouts/teams focus too much on height, arm strength, and 40 speed - instead of what really matters.

Those measurable matter but not as much as people like to act like they are.

That's correct. That's where he has it most. Between the ears. That's why he's good.
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Originally posted by bassmanr:
Originally posted by tankle104:
Originally posted by bassmanr:
Originally posted by tankle104:
Originally posted by frenchmov:
Originally posted by GoreGoreGore:
Jimmy was never the same since that ACL. And little did we know he's gonna be Jonnas Jennings with so many injuries afterwards

Jimmy played a pretty mediocre game 1 & 2 (vs vikes and lions) before his ACL. Threw 3 picks in loss to vikes. Threw what probably would've been the game losing pick vs lions (a real wtf throw....as we would get used to seeing for years) where we got bailed out on a ticket tack/bogus defensive holding on kittle away from the play.

I have no doubt ACL didn't help but we could see signs he was coming back down from his great 2017

Yeah, those first couple games were pretty bad. I was very uninspired/disappointed by them. I was expecting a lot more.

i get not coming out and balling but he wasn't efficient, accurate etc. he had a couple nice plays but essentially was hurting the team.

Yes that's true the play he tore his ACL was a desperate one, not well thought out. I remember now, I was underwhelmed at Jimmy's play the start of 2018.

And I still think highly of Jimmy. I'm a fan of his, for sure. I think he's a very good QB but has limitations and was not elite - which sucks.And I still think highly of Jimmy. I'm a fan of his, for sure. I think he's a very good QB but has limitations and was not elite - which sucks.

but yeah, that years start was disappointing and then even worse once he tore his ACL. Lol we can make the same excuses like "we start out slow & he was just getting acclimated with the system cause he wasn't really playing the full system in 2017 etc" but it was not confidence inspiring.

i think that is a huge reason why so many fans are trying to temper their expectations in regards to Brock, which I completely understand, and it may happen in some capacity as he works back from his injury. I hope it doesn't and all that, but I understand it's very possible.

im not really expecting Brock to come out dropping bombs and shredding. I'm just expecting him to be accurate, efficient, leader, while he gets comfortable. While showing positive signs of spark plays here and there. Now I'm hoping it's way better than that but I kinda feel Kyle will be a little conservative with him in week 1

Yes for sure...I have no idea why everyone was so against Jimmy. He was not elite but very good. Yes his over throw of Sanders is one of those *Roger Craig fumble* moments, that cost us number 6 however he was better than anyone we have had since Jeff Garcia,,, maybe Alex Smith.

I'm glad he was with us last year even though Brock set the new standard. Brock will have to go farther this year. I hope his injury did not set him back like what happened to jimmy.

I know this has been debated to death but I don't think that overthrow cost us #6. Lets say it is completed for a TD. Then the Chiefs have what? 1:30 or 2 mins left? I can't remember I refuse to re-watch that game. And yea the Chiefs and Mahomes were owning our defense at that juncture of the game and I have no reason to think it would stop.
Originally posted by Silky:
Originally posted by bassmanr:
Originally posted by tankle104:
Originally posted by bassmanr:
Originally posted by tankle104:
Originally posted by frenchmov:
Originally posted by GoreGoreGore:
Jimmy was never the same since that ACL. And little did we know he's gonna be Jonnas Jennings with so many injuries afterwards

Jimmy played a pretty mediocre game 1 & 2 (vs vikes and lions) before his ACL. Threw 3 picks in loss to vikes. Threw what probably would've been the game losing pick vs lions (a real wtf throw....as we would get used to seeing for years) where we got bailed out on a ticket tack/bogus defensive holding on kittle away from the play.

I have no doubt ACL didn't help but we could see signs he was coming back down from his great 2017

Yeah, those first couple games were pretty bad. I was very uninspired/disappointed by them. I was expecting a lot more.

i get not coming out and balling but he wasn't efficient, accurate etc. he had a couple nice plays but essentially was hurting the team.

Yes that's true the play he tore his ACL was a desperate one, not well thought out. I remember now, I was underwhelmed at Jimmy's play the start of 2018.

And I still think highly of Jimmy. I'm a fan of his, for sure. I think he's a very good QB but has limitations and was not elite - which sucks.And I still think highly of Jimmy. I'm a fan of his, for sure. I think he's a very good QB but has limitations and was not elite - which sucks.

but yeah, that years start was disappointing and then even worse once he tore his ACL. Lol we can make the same excuses like "we start out slow & he was just getting acclimated with the system cause he wasn't really playing the full system in 2017 etc" but it was not confidence inspiring.

i think that is a huge reason why so many fans are trying to temper their expectations in regards to Brock, which I completely understand, and it may happen in some capacity as he works back from his injury. I hope it doesn't and all that, but I understand it's very possible.

im not really expecting Brock to come out dropping bombs and shredding. I'm just expecting him to be accurate, efficient, leader, while he gets comfortable. While showing positive signs of spark plays here and there. Now I'm hoping it's way better than that but I kinda feel Kyle will be a little conservative with him in week 1

Yes for sure...I have no idea why everyone was so against Jimmy. He was not elite but very good. Yes his over throw of Sanders is one of those *Roger Craig fumble* moments, that cost us number 6 however he was better than anyone we have had since Jeff Garcia,,, maybe Alex Smith.

I'm glad he was with us last year even though Brock set the new standard. Brock will have to go farther this year. I hope his injury did not set him back like what happened to jimmy.

I know this has been debated to death but I don't think that overthrow cost us #6. Lets say it is completed for a TD. Then the Chiefs have what? 1:30 or 2 mins left? I can't remember I refuse to re-watch that game. And yea the Chiefs and Mahomes were owning our defense at that juncture of the game and I have no reason to think it would stop.

Lol good point, vs those guys, no lead is safe. I think the major play was the 3rd and 15, that started the KC avalanche. Gotta get a stop with that down and distance, yet that's Mahomes, Reid, Hill. Sometimes you gotta tip your cap. Just ask BUF they had 13 seconds and collapsed, and that was before they had like 1:30 and also collapsed.
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Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Originally posted by Silky:
Originally posted by bassmanr:
Originally posted by tankle104:
Originally posted by bassmanr:
Originally posted by tankle104:
Originally posted by frenchmov:
Originally posted by GoreGoreGore:
Jimmy was never the same since that ACL. And little did we know he's gonna be Jonnas Jennings with so many injuries afterwards

Jimmy played a pretty mediocre game 1 & 2 (vs vikes and lions) before his ACL. Threw 3 picks in loss to vikes. Threw what probably would've been the game losing pick vs lions (a real wtf throw....as we would get used to seeing for years) where we got bailed out on a ticket tack/bogus defensive holding on kittle away from the play.

I have no doubt ACL didn't help but we could see signs he was coming back down from his great 2017

Yeah, those first couple games were pretty bad. I was very uninspired/disappointed by them. I was expecting a lot more.

i get not coming out and balling but he wasn't efficient, accurate etc. he had a couple nice plays but essentially was hurting the team.

Yes that's true the play he tore his ACL was a desperate one, not well thought out. I remember now, I was underwhelmed at Jimmy's play the start of 2018.

And I still think highly of Jimmy. I'm a fan of his, for sure. I think he's a very good QB but has limitations and was not elite - which sucks.And I still think highly of Jimmy. I'm a fan of his, for sure. I think he's a very good QB but has limitations and was not elite - which sucks.

but yeah, that years start was disappointing and then even worse once he tore his ACL. Lol we can make the same excuses like "we start out slow & he was just getting acclimated with the system cause he wasn't really playing the full system in 2017 etc" but it was not confidence inspiring.

i think that is a huge reason why so many fans are trying to temper their expectations in regards to Brock, which I completely understand, and it may happen in some capacity as he works back from his injury. I hope it doesn't and all that, but I understand it's very possible.

im not really expecting Brock to come out dropping bombs and shredding. I'm just expecting him to be accurate, efficient, leader, while he gets comfortable. While showing positive signs of spark plays here and there. Now I'm hoping it's way better than that but I kinda feel Kyle will be a little conservative with him in week 1

Yes for sure...I have no idea why everyone was so against Jimmy. He was not elite but very good. Yes his over throw of Sanders is one of those *Roger Craig fumble* moments, that cost us number 6 however he was better than anyone we have had since Jeff Garcia,,, maybe Alex Smith.

I'm glad he was with us last year even though Brock set the new standard. Brock will have to go farther this year. I hope his injury did not set him back like what happened to jimmy.

I know this has been debated to death but I don't think that overthrow cost us #6. Lets say it is completed for a TD. Then the Chiefs have what? 1:30 or 2 mins left? I can't remember I refuse to re-watch that game. And yea the Chiefs and Mahomes were owning our defense at that juncture of the game and I have no reason to think it would stop.

Lol good point, vs those guys, no lead is safe. I think the major play was the 3rd and 15, that started the KC avalanche. Gotta get a stop with that down and distance, yet that's Mahomes, Reid, Hill. Sometimes you gotta tip your cap. Just ask BUF they had 13 seconds and collapsed, and that was before they had like 1:30 and also collapsed.

Yes if you want to point fingers at one play, then the wasp play cost us #6. I'm a Niners fan like the rest of you, but that is a huge cop-out we frequently use to losing that SB. "The Overthrow."

To bring this back to Brock, we would have won the game if he was QB! Maybe!
Originally posted by Silky:
Originally posted by bassmanr:
Originally posted by tankle104:
Originally posted by bassmanr:
Originally posted by tankle104:
Originally posted by frenchmov:
Originally posted by GoreGoreGore:
Jimmy was never the same since that ACL. And little did we know he's gonna be Jonnas Jennings with so many injuries afterwards

Jimmy played a pretty mediocre game 1 & 2 (vs vikes and lions) before his ACL. Threw 3 picks in loss to vikes. Threw what probably would've been the game losing pick vs lions (a real wtf throw....as we would get used to seeing for years) where we got bailed out on a ticket tack/bogus defensive holding on kittle away from the play.

I have no doubt ACL didn't help but we could see signs he was coming back down from his great 2017

Yeah, those first couple games were pretty bad. I was very uninspired/disappointed by them. I was expecting a lot more.

i get not coming out and balling but he wasn't efficient, accurate etc. he had a couple nice plays but essentially was hurting the team.

Yes that's true the play he tore his ACL was a desperate one, not well thought out. I remember now, I was underwhelmed at Jimmy's play the start of 2018.

And I still think highly of Jimmy. I'm a fan of his, for sure. I think he's a very good QB but has limitations and was not elite - which sucks.And I still think highly of Jimmy. I'm a fan of his, for sure. I think he's a very good QB but has limitations and was not elite - which sucks.

but yeah, that years start was disappointing and then even worse once he tore his ACL. Lol we can make the same excuses like "we start out slow & he was just getting acclimated with the system cause he wasn't really playing the full system in 2017 etc" but it was not confidence inspiring.

i think that is a huge reason why so many fans are trying to temper their expectations in regards to Brock, which I completely understand, and it may happen in some capacity as he works back from his injury. I hope it doesn't and all that, but I understand it's very possible.

im not really expecting Brock to come out dropping bombs and shredding. I'm just expecting him to be accurate, efficient, leader, while he gets comfortable. While showing positive signs of spark plays here and there. Now I'm hoping it's way better than that but I kinda feel Kyle will be a little conservative with him in week 1

Yes for sure...I have no idea why everyone was so against Jimmy. He was not elite but very good. Yes his over throw of Sanders is one of those *Roger Craig fumble* moments, that cost us number 6 however he was better than anyone we have had since Jeff Garcia,,, maybe Alex Smith.

I'm glad he was with us last year even though Brock set the new standard. Brock will have to go farther this year. I hope his injury did not set him back like what happened to jimmy.

I know this has been debated to death but I don't think that overthrow cost us #6. Lets say it is completed for a TD. Then the Chiefs have what? 1:30 or 2 mins left? I can't remember I refuse to re-watch that game. And yea the Chiefs and Mahomes were owning our defense at that juncture of the game and I have no reason to think it would stop.

It was a team collapse in the end. I don't blame Jimmy for it all and it's very possible the way the defense was playing at the end maybe we can't stop Mahomes even if Jimmy hits Sanders there.

Having said that Jimmy left a bunch of plays out there which would've won us the game. However had everything went the way it did and the refs didn't turn blinders on when KC got away with clear flags then we still win. I don't like to blame the refs but considering Jimmy got clearly hit to the head on a critical down with no flag while we were trying to kill clock...well that certainly doesn't help things.

It's a very frustration situation when you have to play a supremely talented team and the refs ignore things which help one team way more than the other.

I find it ironic that the Eagles are crying about playing on the same turf as the Chiefs(who had a great pass rush of their own btw) and the 49ers went into their SB vs the Chiefs handicapped from the start with the refs pretending holding by the OL isn't a thing.
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Originally posted by Silky:
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Originally posted by Silky:
Originally posted by bassmanr:
Originally posted by tankle104:
Originally posted by bassmanr:
Originally posted by tankle104:
Originally posted by frenchmov:
Originally posted by GoreGoreGore:
Jimmy was never the same since that ACL. And little did we know he's gonna be Jonnas Jennings with so many injuries afterwards

Jimmy played a pretty mediocre game 1 & 2 (vs vikes and lions) before his ACL. Threw 3 picks in loss to vikes. Threw what probably would've been the game losing pick vs lions (a real wtf throw....as we would get used to seeing for years) where we got bailed out on a ticket tack/bogus defensive holding on kittle away from the play.

I have no doubt ACL didn't help but we could see signs he was coming back down from his great 2017

Yeah, those first couple games were pretty bad. I was very uninspired/disappointed by them. I was expecting a lot more.

i get not coming out and balling but he wasn't efficient, accurate etc. he had a couple nice plays but essentially was hurting the team.

Yes that's true the play he tore his ACL was a desperate one, not well thought out. I remember now, I was underwhelmed at Jimmy's play the start of 2018.

And I still think highly of Jimmy. I'm a fan of his, for sure. I think he's a very good QB but has limitations and was not elite - which sucks.And I still think highly of Jimmy. I'm a fan of his, for sure. I think he's a very good QB but has limitations and was not elite - which sucks.

but yeah, that years start was disappointing and then even worse once he tore his ACL. Lol we can make the same excuses like "we start out slow & he was just getting acclimated with the system cause he wasn't really playing the full system in 2017 etc" but it was not confidence inspiring.

i think that is a huge reason why so many fans are trying to temper their expectations in regards to Brock, which I completely understand, and it may happen in some capacity as he works back from his injury. I hope it doesn't and all that, but I understand it's very possible.

im not really expecting Brock to come out dropping bombs and shredding. I'm just expecting him to be accurate, efficient, leader, while he gets comfortable. While showing positive signs of spark plays here and there. Now I'm hoping it's way better than that but I kinda feel Kyle will be a little conservative with him in week 1

Yes for sure...I have no idea why everyone was so against Jimmy. He was not elite but very good. Yes his over throw of Sanders is one of those *Roger Craig fumble* moments, that cost us number 6 however he was better than anyone we have had since Jeff Garcia,,, maybe Alex Smith.

I'm glad he was with us last year even though Brock set the new standard. Brock will have to go farther this year. I hope his injury did not set him back like what happened to jimmy.

I know this has been debated to death but I don't think that overthrow cost us #6. Lets say it is completed for a TD. Then the Chiefs have what? 1:30 or 2 mins left? I can't remember I refuse to re-watch that game. And yea the Chiefs and Mahomes were owning our defense at that juncture of the game and I have no reason to think it would stop.

Lol good point, vs those guys, no lead is safe. I think the major play was the 3rd and 15, that started the KC avalanche. Gotta get a stop with that down and distance, yet that's Mahomes, Reid, Hill. Sometimes you gotta tip your cap. Just ask BUF they had 13 seconds and collapsed, and that was before they had like 1:30 and also collapsed.

Yes if you want to point fingers at one play, then the wasp play cost us #6. I'm a Niners fan like the rest of you, but that is a huge cop-out we frequently use to losing that SB. "The Overthrow."

To bring this back to Brock, we would have won the game if he was QB! Maybe!

Exactly to the 2 bolded
Originally posted by tankle104:
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Let's be totally honest about what our QB, Brock Purdy, has shown. He is the LAST pick in the 2022 NFL Draft. He was a virtual unknown. And let's be real about QB's that have come along in the past. We've seen QB's who've won Championships in college. We've seen QB's who were a "sure thing". We've seen QB's who could throw a football 75yds!! From their KNEES no less!! But, one thing is for sure. You don't know what you have in a QB until he is in battle formation, with 11 other guys on the other side of the ball, coming for his head!! And I want to point something out to all of you 'Zoners. Go back and watch the NFCCG with Montana and Dwight Clark - the Catch game. Joe had a TON of turnovers. There were 6 all together. By all rights, the Cowboys should have killed us. But that Niners defense did what they were supposed to do. Purdy Boy Brock has one hell of a defense working for him. And there is no doubt about what we witnessed this young man do last year. What happens if he stays healthy against the Eagles and goes to the Super Bowl? Hopefully this year our OLine ( and any other blockers) help to keep him upright and give him the FULL opportunity to take this team to the heights we are used to
Originally posted by krizay:
Originally posted by Silky:
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Originally posted by Silky:
Originally posted by bassmanr:
Originally posted by tankle104:
Originally posted by bassmanr:
Originally posted by tankle104:
Originally posted by frenchmov:
Originally posted by GoreGoreGore:
Jimmy was never the same since that ACL. And little did we know he's gonna be Jonnas Jennings with so many injuries afterwards

Jimmy played a pretty mediocre game 1 & 2 (vs vikes and lions) before his ACL. Threw 3 picks in loss to vikes. Threw what probably would've been the game losing pick vs lions (a real wtf throw....as we would get used to seeing for years) where we got bailed out on a ticket tack/bogus defensive holding on kittle away from the play.

I have no doubt ACL didn't help but we could see signs he was coming back down from his great 2017

Yeah, those first couple games were pretty bad. I was very uninspired/disappointed by them. I was expecting a lot more.

i get not coming out and balling but he wasn't efficient, accurate etc. he had a couple nice plays but essentially was hurting the team.

Yes that's true the play he tore his ACL was a desperate one, not well thought out. I remember now, I was underwhelmed at Jimmy's play the start of 2018.

And I still think highly of Jimmy. I'm a fan of his, for sure. I think he's a very good QB but has limitations and was not elite - which sucks.And I still think highly of Jimmy. I'm a fan of his, for sure. I think he's a very good QB but has limitations and was not elite - which sucks.

but yeah, that years start was disappointing and then even worse once he tore his ACL. Lol we can make the same excuses like "we start out slow & he was just getting acclimated with the system cause he wasn't really playing the full system in 2017 etc" but it was not confidence inspiring.

i think that is a huge reason why so many fans are trying to temper their expectations in regards to Brock, which I completely understand, and it may happen in some capacity as he works back from his injury. I hope it doesn't and all that, but I understand it's very possible.

im not really expecting Brock to come out dropping bombs and shredding. I'm just expecting him to be accurate, efficient, leader, while he gets comfortable. While showing positive signs of spark plays here and there. Now I'm hoping it's way better than that but I kinda feel Kyle will be a little conservative with him in week 1

Yes for sure...I have no idea why everyone was so against Jimmy. He was not elite but very good. Yes his over throw of Sanders is one of those *Roger Craig fumble* moments, that cost us number 6 however he was better than anyone we have had since Jeff Garcia,,, maybe Alex Smith.

I'm glad he was with us last year even though Brock set the new standard. Brock will have to go farther this year. I hope his injury did not set him back like what happened to jimmy.

I know this has been debated to death but I don't think that overthrow cost us #6. Lets say it is completed for a TD. Then the Chiefs have what? 1:30 or 2 mins left? I can't remember I refuse to re-watch that game. And yea the Chiefs and Mahomes were owning our defense at that juncture of the game and I have no reason to think it would stop.

Lol good point, vs those guys, no lead is safe. I think the major play was the 3rd and 15, that started the KC avalanche. Gotta get a stop with that down and distance, yet that's Mahomes, Reid, Hill. Sometimes you gotta tip your cap. Just ask BUF they had 13 seconds and collapsed, and that was before they had like 1:30 and also collapsed.

Yes if you want to point fingers at one play, then the wasp play cost us #6. I'm a Niners fan like the rest of you, but that is a huge cop-out we frequently use to losing that SB. "The Overthrow."

To bring this back to Brock, we would have won the game if he was QB! Maybe!

Exactly to the 2 bolded

I don't like when people put the whole collapse on Jimmy but let's not get it twisted...there was plenty of blame on him. He missed several key plays which would've closed out the game.
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Originally posted by tankle104:
I think Steve smith said it best about Purdy - scouts/teams focus too much on height, arm strength, and 40 speed - instead of what really matters.

Those measurable matter but not as much as people like to act like they are.

tank, you have been putting some great BP posts in here and keeping the BP optimism all offseason, it's great to see

I'm a world class fan girl, baby! Hahaha now I just hope he doesn't let us down 😭.

if he does, I pray Lance proves me wrong. Lol

I actually hope Lance proves me wrong even if Brock does well. Win/win
Originally posted by Silky:
Originally posted by bassmanr:
Originally posted by tankle104:
Originally posted by bassmanr:
Originally posted by tankle104:
Originally posted by frenchmov:
Originally posted by GoreGoreGore:
Jimmy was never the same since that ACL. And little did we know he's gonna be Jonnas Jennings with so many injuries afterwards

Jimmy played a pretty mediocre game 1 & 2 (vs vikes and lions) before his ACL. Threw 3 picks in loss to vikes. Threw what probably would've been the game losing pick vs lions (a real wtf throw....as we would get used to seeing for years) where we got bailed out on a ticket tack/bogus defensive holding on kittle away from the play.

I have no doubt ACL didn't help but we could see signs he was coming back down from his great 2017

Yeah, those first couple games were pretty bad. I was very uninspired/disappointed by them. I was expecting a lot more.

i get not coming out and balling but he wasn't efficient, accurate etc. he had a couple nice plays but essentially was hurting the team.

Yes that's true the play he tore his ACL was a desperate one, not well thought out. I remember now, I was underwhelmed at Jimmy's play the start of 2018.

And I still think highly of Jimmy. I'm a fan of his, for sure. I think he's a very good QB but has limitations and was not elite - which sucks.And I still think highly of Jimmy. I'm a fan of his, for sure. I think he's a very good QB but has limitations and was not elite - which sucks.

but yeah, that years start was disappointing and then even worse once he tore his ACL. Lol we can make the same excuses like "we start out slow & he was just getting acclimated with the system cause he wasn't really playing the full system in 2017 etc" but it was not confidence inspiring.

i think that is a huge reason why so many fans are trying to temper their expectations in regards to Brock, which I completely understand, and it may happen in some capacity as he works back from his injury. I hope it doesn't and all that, but I understand it's very possible.

im not really expecting Brock to come out dropping bombs and shredding. I'm just expecting him to be accurate, efficient, leader, while he gets comfortable. While showing positive signs of spark plays here and there. Now I'm hoping it's way better than that but I kinda feel Kyle will be a little conservative with him in week 1

Yes for sure...I have no idea why everyone was so against Jimmy. He was not elite but very good. Yes his over throw of Sanders is one of those *Roger Craig fumble* moments, that cost us number 6 however he was better than anyone we have had since Jeff Garcia,,, maybe Alex Smith.

I'm glad he was with us last year even though Brock set the new standard. Brock will have to go farther this year. I hope his injury did not set him back like what happened to jimmy.

I know this has been debated to death but I don't think that overthrow cost us #6. Lets say it is completed for a TD. Then the Chiefs have what? 1:30 or 2 mins left? I can't remember I refuse to re-watch that game. And yea the Chiefs and Mahomes were owning our defense at that juncture of the game and I have no reason to think it would stop.

Yeah, that's sometbing I think about too. It's possible we win if we catch that but isn't for sure. Not with the way our defense was playing there at the end.

i think it would given us a good chance to win, but I still think it would of been a 50/50 on if the chiefs would of drove down the field and still took it.
[ Edited by tankle104 on Jul 17, 2023 at 1:02 PM ]
Originally posted by genus49:
It was a team collapse in the end. I don't blame Jimmy for it all and it's very possible the way the defense was playing at the end maybe we can't stop Mahomes even if Jimmy hits Sanders there.

Having said that Jimmy left a bunch of plays out there which would've won us the game. However had everything went the way it did and the refs didn't turn blinders on when KC got away with clear flags then we still win. I don't like to blame the refs but considering Jimmy got clearly hit to the head on a critical down with no flag while we were trying to kill clock...well that certainly doesn't help things.

It's a very frustration situation when you have to play a supremely talented team and the refs ignore things which help one team way more than the other.

I find it ironic that the Eagles are crying about playing on the same turf as the Chiefs(who had a great pass rush of their own btw) and the 49ers went into their SB vs the Chiefs handicapped from the start with the refs pretending holding by the OL isn't a thing.
Hear hear! The referees cost us at Super Bowl just as much as anything. People like to say well, we should've played better however if the referees were calling an even game or even remotely close to one you could of said we would've kicked the Chiefs ass which we were doing and the Chiefs should've played a lot better as well. That roughing the passer no call to Jimmy was crucial as well as the blatant raping on Bosa on that third and 15 play.

If Brock can play just like a top 10 quarterback instead of a top 3 quarterback which was a level he was playing at last year we win a Super Bowl. As long as the defense remains top five, we win our 6th boys
[ Edited by elguapo on Jul 17, 2023 at 2:00 PM ]
Originally posted by tankle104:
Originally posted by Silky:
Originally posted by bassmanr:
Originally posted by tankle104:
Originally posted by bassmanr:
Originally posted by tankle104:
Originally posted by frenchmov:
Originally posted by GoreGoreGore:
Jimmy was never the same since that ACL. And little did we know he's gonna be Jonnas Jennings with so many injuries afterwards

Jimmy played a pretty mediocre game 1 & 2 (vs vikes and lions) before his ACL. Threw 3 picks in loss to vikes. Threw what probably would've been the game losing pick vs lions (a real wtf throw....as we would get used to seeing for years) where we got bailed out on a ticket tack/bogus defensive holding on kittle away from the play.

I have no doubt ACL didn't help but we could see signs he was coming back down from his great 2017

Yeah, those first couple games were pretty bad. I was very uninspired/disappointed by them. I was expecting a lot more.

i get not coming out and balling but he wasn't efficient, accurate etc. he had a couple nice plays but essentially was hurting the team.

Yes that's true the play he tore his ACL was a desperate one, not well thought out. I remember now, I was underwhelmed at Jimmy's play the start of 2018.

And I still think highly of Jimmy. I'm a fan of his, for sure. I think he's a very good QB but has limitations and was not elite - which sucks.And I still think highly of Jimmy. I'm a fan of his, for sure. I think he's a very good QB but has limitations and was not elite - which sucks.

but yeah, that years start was disappointing and then even worse once he tore his ACL. Lol we can make the same excuses like "we start out slow & he was just getting acclimated with the system cause he wasn't really playing the full system in 2017 etc" but it was not confidence inspiring.

i think that is a huge reason why so many fans are trying to temper their expectations in regards to Brock, which I completely understand, and it may happen in some capacity as he works back from his injury. I hope it doesn't and all that, but I understand it's very possible.

im not really expecting Brock to come out dropping bombs and shredding. I'm just expecting him to be accurate, efficient, leader, while he gets comfortable. While showing positive signs of spark plays here and there. Now I'm hoping it's way better than that but I kinda feel Kyle will be a little conservative with him in week 1

Yes for sure...I have no idea why everyone was so against Jimmy. He was not elite but very good. Yes his over throw of Sanders is one of those *Roger Craig fumble* moments, that cost us number 6 however he was better than anyone we have had since Jeff Garcia,,, maybe Alex Smith.

I'm glad he was with us last year even though Brock set the new standard. Brock will have to go farther this year. I hope his injury did not set him back like what happened to jimmy.

I know this has been debated to death but I don't think that overthrow cost us #6. Lets say it is completed for a TD. Then the Chiefs have what? 1:30 or 2 mins left? I can't remember I refuse to re-watch that game. And yea the Chiefs and Mahomes were owning our defense at that juncture of the game and I have no reason to think it would stop.

Yeah, that's sometbing I think about too. It's possible we win if we catch that but isn't for sure. Not with the way our defense was playing there at the end.

i think it would given us a good chance to win, but I still think it would of been a 50/50 on if the chiefs would of drove down the field and still took it.

Yeah you may be right there was no guarantee we would win after that TD but I like our chances. The D was tired after the offense went to sleep.
Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Originally posted by tankle104:
I think Steve smith said it best about Purdy - scouts/teams focus too much on height, arm strength, and 40 speed - instead of what really matters.

Those measurable matter but not as much as people like to act like they are.

tank, you have been putting some great BP posts in here and keeping the BP optimism all offseason, it's great to see

Yes I agree its not about *height, arm strength, and 40 speed -* instead of what really matters.

Which is the point of watching his college tapes and looking at his target progression just a little beyond his college receivers and just right for the pros. His poise is also miles above most rookie QBs.

We will see if he grows this year but as I said before I'm pulling for the kid.

Can't wait for camp.....
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