QB Brock Purdy Thread

Congrats to BP on the recent news

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by Furlow:

Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:

Originally posted by Furlow:

Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:

Originally posted by Furlow:

Originally posted by Bay2Bay9erAllday:

Ever notice how the people who REALLY KNOW what it takes to play quarterback at the highest level don't mention having a big arm? pic.twitter.com/iI83xSbnxm

— Jack Hammer (@JackHammer_NFL) June 28, 2023

Brock checks all the boxes

1.✅
2.✅
3.✅
4.✅
5.✅

I would add a 6th. Air yards. Otherwise a good list.

Brock Purdy's completed air yards per attempt was higher than Patrick Mahomes' last year.

I don't know how many times I have to explain this. A 2 yard screen that goes 80 yards is not the same as a streak thrown 30 yards that goes for 80 yards. One is a greater difficulty than the other. The utility of completed air yards per attempt is to determine how much credit the QB should get for the distance the ball travels. Intended air yards means little, because if its not complete, who cares. But completed air yards tells you a lot about how your team is attacking the defense, and how much ground the defense has to defend. Brock's completed air yards per attempt would have been just outside the top ten, meaning we were both controlling the ball with the pass AND a threat down field, which is obviously ideal.

I thought my sarcasm was obvious. Great info though, hopefully those who are "cautious" about Purdy will read this.

It seems more like you're salty that Jimmy was almost always bad at completed air yards per attempt, and mistakenly believed that it didn't matter. And now that Purdy shows you what happens when your QB can pick up an extra half yard or more of air yards per completion (10 points more per game, for example). It's a little thing per play, but it leads to more first downs and ultimately more points. Being elite at pushing the ball down the field is NOT necessary. But not being afraid to throw past the sticks on third down IS.

Not salty about Jimmy at all. Purdy showed me that indeed WAS Jimmy who was holding the offense back. Well, a combination of Kyle/Jimmy, but it was still being held back nonetheless. Purdy and Kyle/Purdy have simply taken this offense to another level.

thanks for noticing it was you who was in denial

Holding us back? Compared to what, better QB play? Just cuz Brock did better, didn't mean the other guy was holding back. We were 7-3 in the JG games. If JG was holding us back, what was Trey doing? If anyone was holding us back it was JWJ. That guy, don't even get me started on that guy.

yes holding us back. Trey has nothing to do with it

Originally posted by Furlow:

Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:

Originally posted by Furlow:

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by Furlow:

Originally posted by Bay2Bay9erAllday:

Shout out @Cianaf: @49ers_hnic This is that "Eye Manipulation" NO LOOK/ make the Shanahan System Better /5 Year Vet ish/ I was talking about!! Things seen are temporal things not seen eternal!! 2 Corinthians 4:18 pic.twitter.com/vYbstg2fXX

— Tarrerdome49ers (@tarrerdome49ers) July 3, 2023

This is a GREAT example of why I can't stand the argument that it's "Kyle's system" as the reason for the QB's success. Beathard, Hoyer, Mullens were not nearly as good at this as Jimmy and now Purdy (who's even better than Jimmy). So many details like this that you just can't see watching the sideline view on game day.

Yes, sir! Kyle has a great system and players benefit from playing in it, but you still have to add to it and play at a very high level. We scored 30+ with Purdy for a reason. It was essentially Kyles offense being Maximized.

it's part of why I don't understand some folks drooling over physical tools, you know? I understand that having a strong arm and fast legs does add an element to the position but it's not a material change unless you're fast like Lamar jackson. To play QB at the highest level - it requires a keen mental understanding of the game and instincts.

I agree 100%. Honestly at a certain point I think if the physical tools become TOO good, it takes away from a QB's development over time. If in high school and college they are simply physically dominant over their competition, how much are they actually learning these nuances of playing QB? Likely not much. Now this isn't to say that there is a lower limit for physical tools as well, of course there is. But clearly Purdy is beyond that.

The mental aspect is also a physical tool. You are born with minds like Mahomes which so naturally see and react so quickly.

So far Brock looks like he has that "presence of mind" which Steve Young talked about, which Mahomes and other great ones have. Yeah, the arm limits him a little bit, but he's really good on intermediate passes, which are 90% of the NFL's deep game. Those 15-25 yard digs are a lot more important than streaks and deep posts.

How is the mental aspect "physical?" There is literally nothing physical about it.

You realize brains are made out of chemicals right? But if that's not enough for you, reflexes are mental, and yet they have a clear physical manifestation on the field.

EDIT: We clearly need more clarity here. The usual context about "physical" traits is that they are what someone is born with and can't appreciably be changed. There are some "mental" traits that fit that description.

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Congrats to BP on the recent news

More like congrats to the girl for snagging such a stud.

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by Furlow:

Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:

Originally posted by Furlow:

Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:

Originally posted by Furlow:

Originally posted by Bay2Bay9erAllday:

Ever notice how the people who REALLY KNOW what it takes to play quarterback at the highest level don't mention having a big arm? pic.twitter.com/iI83xSbnxm

— Jack Hammer (@JackHammer_NFL) June 28, 2023

Brock checks all the boxes

1.✅
2.✅
3.✅
4.✅
5.✅

I would add a 6th. Air yards. Otherwise a good list.

Brock Purdy's completed air yards per attempt was higher than Patrick Mahomes' last year.

I don't know how many times I have to explain this. A 2 yard screen that goes 80 yards is not the same as a streak thrown 30 yards that goes for 80 yards. One is a greater difficulty than the other. The utility of completed air yards per attempt is to determine how much credit the QB should get for the distance the ball travels. Intended air yards means little, because if its not complete, who cares. But completed air yards tells you a lot about how your team is attacking the defense, and how much ground the defense has to defend. Brock's completed air yards per attempt would have been just outside the top ten, meaning we were both controlling the ball with the pass AND a threat down field, which is obviously ideal.

I thought my sarcasm was obvious. Great info though, hopefully those who are "cautious" about Purdy will read this.

It seems more like you're salty that Jimmy was almost always bad at completed air yards per attempt, and mistakenly believed that it didn't matter. And now that Purdy shows you what happens when your QB can pick up an extra half yard or more of air yards per completion (10 points more per game, for example). It's a little thing per play, but it leads to more first downs and ultimately more points. Being elite at pushing the ball down the field is NOT necessary. But not being afraid to throw past the sticks on third down IS.

Not salty about Jimmy at all. Purdy showed me that indeed WAS Jimmy who was holding the offense back. Well, a combination of Kyle/Jimmy, but it was still being held back nonetheless. Purdy and Kyle/Purdy have simply taken this offense to another level.

thanks for noticing it was you who was in denial

Holding us back? Compared to what, better QB play? Just cuz Brock did better, didn't mean the other guy was holding back. We were 7-3 in the JG games. If JG was holding us back, what was Trey doing? If anyone was holding us back it was JWJ. That guy, don't even get me started on that guy.

Compared to where we could have been, for sure. Trey only started four games. He's irrelevant. Jimmy started for years with two Super Bowl caliber rosters. That's two rings if Brock is the QB, some other would say.

Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by Furlow:

Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:

Originally posted by Furlow:

Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:

Originally posted by Furlow:

Originally posted by Bay2Bay9erAllday:

Ever notice how the people who REALLY KNOW what it takes to play quarterback at the highest level don't mention having a big arm? pic.twitter.com/iI83xSbnxm

— Jack Hammer (@JackHammer_NFL) June 28, 2023

Brock checks all the boxes

1.?
2.?
3.?
4.?
5.?

I would add a 6th. Air yards. Otherwise a good list.

Brock Purdy's completed air yards per attempt was higher than Patrick Mahomes' last year.

I don't know how many times I have to explain this. A 2 yard screen that goes 80 yards is not the same as a streak thrown 30 yards that goes for 80 yards. One is a greater difficulty than the other. The utility of completed air yards per attempt is to determine how much credit the QB should get for the distance the ball travels. Intended air yards means little, because if its not complete, who cares. But completed air yards tells you a lot about how your team is attacking the defense, and how much ground the defense has to defend. Brock's completed air yards per attempt would have been just outside the top ten, meaning we were both controlling the ball with the pass AND a threat down field, which is obviously ideal.

I thought my sarcasm was obvious. Great info though, hopefully those who are "cautious" about Purdy will read this.

It seems more like you're salty that Jimmy was almost always bad at completed air yards per attempt, and mistakenly believed that it didn't matter. And now that Purdy shows you what happens when your QB can pick up an extra half yard or more of air yards per completion (10 points more per game, for example). It's a little thing per play, but it leads to more first downs and ultimately more points. Being elite at pushing the ball down the field is NOT necessary. But not being afraid to throw past the sticks on third down IS.

Not salty about Jimmy at all. Purdy showed me that indeed WAS Jimmy who was holding the offense back. Well, a combination of Kyle/Jimmy, but it was still being held back nonetheless. Purdy and Kyle/Purdy have simply taken this offense to another level.

thanks for noticing it was you who was in denial

Holding us back? Compared to what, better QB play? Just cuz Brock did better, didn't mean the other guy was holding back. We were 7-3 in the JG games. If JG was holding us back, what was Trey doing? If anyone was holding us back it was JWJ. That guy, don't even get me started on that guy.

Compared to where we could have been, for sure. Trey only started four games. He's irrelevant. Jimmy started for years with two Super Bowl caliber rosters. That's two rings if Brock is the QB, some other would say.

Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
Congrats to BP on the recent news

More like congrats to the girl for snagging such a stud.

That had to be a wild ride from pick 262, irrelevance, becoming starter, then the injury. I see a potential movie in the works, with a hollywood ending hopefully

Originally posted by random49er:

Originally posted by NCommand:
Except it wasn't just the QB. The entire team starts off slow and we've had crucial injuries ....

We've petitioned to change the rules to 2-hand touch or flag football to absolve the injury criticism from fans, but just looking @ points off of drives of 20 yards or more last year, we had out of the gates:

2022:
Bears: 13
Seattle 7
Denver 9

Only 1 of the 3 ended up in double digits to start off, and even with that, it was only 13.

The top scoring defense in the league (us again?) for the year was @ 17ppg.

So can someone explain to me how "the entire team" started off slow last year?

Try watching the games.
Almost…. ALMOST matches your condescending comments on every post you make..

if we can get the same, Or better production from Purdy this year, he might be the best bargain of all time. Lol

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by Furlow:

Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:

Originally posted by Furlow:

Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:

Originally posted by Furlow:

Originally posted by Bay2Bay9erAllday:

Ever notice how the people who REALLY KNOW what it takes to play quarterback at the highest level don't mention having a big arm? pic.twitter.com/iI83xSbnxm

— Jack Hammer (@JackHammer_NFL) June 28, 2023

Brock checks all the boxes

1.✅
2.✅
3.✅
4.✅
5.✅

I would add a 6th. Air yards. Otherwise a good list.

Brock Purdy's completed air yards per attempt was higher than Patrick Mahomes' last year.

I don't know how many times I have to explain this. A 2 yard screen that goes 80 yards is not the same as a streak thrown 30 yards that goes for 80 yards. One is a greater difficulty than the other. The utility of completed air yards per attempt is to determine how much credit the QB should get for the distance the ball travels. Intended air yards means little, because if its not complete, who cares. But completed air yards tells you a lot about how your team is attacking the defense, and how much ground the defense has to defend. Brock's completed air yards per attempt would have been just outside the top ten, meaning we were both controlling the ball with the pass AND a threat down field, which is obviously ideal.

I thought my sarcasm was obvious. Great info though, hopefully those who are "cautious" about Purdy will read this.

It seems more like you're salty that Jimmy was almost always bad at completed air yards per attempt, and mistakenly believed that it didn't matter. And now that Purdy shows you what happens when your QB can pick up an extra half yard or more of air yards per completion (10 points more per game, for example). It's a little thing per play, but it leads to more first downs and ultimately more points. Being elite at pushing the ball down the field is NOT necessary. But not being afraid to throw past the sticks on third down IS.

Not salty about Jimmy at all. Purdy showed me that indeed WAS Jimmy who was holding the offense back. Well, a combination of Kyle/Jimmy, but it was still being held back nonetheless. Purdy and Kyle/Purdy have simply taken this offense to another level.

thanks for noticing it was you who was in denial

Holding us back? Compared to what, better QB play? Just cuz Brock did better, didn't mean the other guy was holding back. We were 7-3 in the JG games. If JG was holding us back, what was Trey doing? If anyone was holding us back it was JWJ. That guy, don't even get me started on that guy.

It wasn't Jimmy by himself. It's the combination of Jimmy and Kyle. Jimmy was too nice, too accommodating to what Kyle wants. Had his attitude from 2018 to 2021 been what it was in 2022, he would have been better.

Trey is also quiet and seems to be a "people pleaser." I don't think that's a good fit for a coach like Kyle.

Originally posted by Furlow:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by Furlow:

Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:

Originally posted by Furlow:

Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:

Originally posted by Furlow:

Originally posted by Bay2Bay9erAllday:

Ever notice how the people who REALLY KNOW what it takes to play quarterback at the highest level don't mention having a big arm? pic.twitter.com/iI83xSbnxm

— Jack Hammer (@JackHammer_NFL) June 28, 2023

Brock checks all the boxes

1.✅
2.✅
3.✅
4.✅
5.✅

I would add a 6th. Air yards. Otherwise a good list.

Brock Purdy's completed air yards per attempt was higher than Patrick Mahomes' last year.

I don't know how many times I have to explain this. A 2 yard screen that goes 80 yards is not the same as a streak thrown 30 yards that goes for 80 yards. One is a greater difficulty than the other. The utility of completed air yards per attempt is to determine how much credit the QB should get for the distance the ball travels. Intended air yards means little, because if its not complete, who cares. But completed air yards tells you a lot about how your team is attacking the defense, and how much ground the defense has to defend. Brock's completed air yards per attempt would have been just outside the top ten, meaning we were both controlling the ball with the pass AND a threat down field, which is obviously ideal.

I thought my sarcasm was obvious. Great info though, hopefully those who are "cautious" about Purdy will read this.

It seems more like you're salty that Jimmy was almost always bad at completed air yards per attempt, and mistakenly believed that it didn't matter. And now that Purdy shows you what happens when your QB can pick up an extra half yard or more of air yards per completion (10 points more per game, for example). It's a little thing per play, but it leads to more first downs and ultimately more points. Being elite at pushing the ball down the field is NOT necessary. But not being afraid to throw past the sticks on third down IS.

Not salty about Jimmy at all. Purdy showed me that indeed WAS Jimmy who was holding the offense back. Well, a combination of Kyle/Jimmy, but it was still being held back nonetheless. Purdy and Kyle/Purdy have simply taken this offense to another level.

thanks for noticing it was you who was in denial

Holding us back? Compared to what, better QB play? Just cuz Brock did better, didn't mean the other guy was holding back. We were 7-3 in the JG games. If JG was holding us back, what was Trey doing? If anyone was holding us back it was JWJ. That guy, don't even get me started on that guy.

It wasn't Jimmy by himself. It's the combination of Jimmy and Kyle. Jimmy was too nice, too accommodating to what Kyle wants. Had his attitude from 2018 to 2021 been what it was in 2022, he would have been better.

Trey is also quiet and seems to be a "people pleaser." I don't think that's a good fit for a coach like Kyle.

I remember in one of Brock's first games, might of been the dolphins game. He changed kyles play to a QB sneak. It was successful (although it was because of a second effort, close one. Lol). Kyle said he didn't call that and Brock switched it. When he asked Brock why he did that - Brock said sometbing along the lines of "cause screw them". Lmao

Ill try and find the article but I think Kyle respects that kind of attitude. The fiery competitiveness.

Originally posted by Furlow:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by Furlow:

Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:

Originally posted by Furlow:

Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:

Originally posted by Furlow:

Originally posted by Bay2Bay9erAllday:

Ever notice how the people who REALLY KNOW what it takes to play quarterback at the highest level don't mention having a big arm? pic.twitter.com/iI83xSbnxm

— Jack Hammer (@JackHammer_NFL) June 28, 2023

Brock checks all the boxes

1.✅
2.✅
3.✅
4.✅
5.✅

I would add a 6th. Air yards. Otherwise a good list.

Brock Purdy's completed air yards per attempt was higher than Patrick Mahomes' last year.

I don't know how many times I have to explain this. A 2 yard screen that goes 80 yards is not the same as a streak thrown 30 yards that goes for 80 yards. One is a greater difficulty than the other. The utility of completed air yards per attempt is to determine how much credit the QB should get for the distance the ball travels. Intended air yards means little, because if its not complete, who cares. But completed air yards tells you a lot about how your team is attacking the defense, and how much ground the defense has to defend. Brock's completed air yards per attempt would have been just outside the top ten, meaning we were both controlling the ball with the pass AND a threat down field, which is obviously ideal.

I thought my sarcasm was obvious. Great info though, hopefully those who are "cautious" about Purdy will read this.

It seems more like you're salty that Jimmy was almost always bad at completed air yards per attempt, and mistakenly believed that it didn't matter. And now that Purdy shows you what happens when your QB can pick up an extra half yard or more of air yards per completion (10 points more per game, for example). It's a little thing per play, but it leads to more first downs and ultimately more points. Being elite at pushing the ball down the field is NOT necessary. But not being afraid to throw past the sticks on third down IS.

Not salty about Jimmy at all. Purdy showed me that indeed WAS Jimmy who was holding the offense back. Well, a combination of Kyle/Jimmy, but it was still being held back nonetheless. Purdy and Kyle/Purdy have simply taken this offense to another level.

thanks for noticing it was you who was in denial

Holding us back? Compared to what, better QB play? Just cuz Brock did better, didn't mean the other guy was holding back. We were 7-3 in the JG games. If JG was holding us back, what was Trey doing? If anyone was holding us back it was JWJ. That guy, don't even get me started on that guy.

It wasn't Jimmy by himself. It's the combination of Jimmy and Kyle. Jimmy was too nice, too accommodating to what Kyle wants. Had his attitude from 2018 to 2021 been what it was in 2022, he would have been better.

Trey is also quiet and seems to be a "people pleaser." I don't think that's a good fit for a coach like Kyle.

Jimmy throwing short of the sticks twice in the red zone in the Super Bowl when another guy was open past the sticks is 100% on Jimmy, not Kyle. That's an 8 point swing in a game we had a 10 point 4th quarter win. We win that game if Jimmy throws 6 yards further down the field to the open guy on two red zone passes. And that's all Jimmy, not Kyle.

Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:

Originally posted by Furlow:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by Furlow:

Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:

Originally posted by Furlow:

Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:

Originally posted by Furlow:

Originally posted by Bay2Bay9erAllday:

Ever notice how the people who REALLY KNOW what it takes to play quarterback at the highest level don't mention having a big arm? pic.twitter.com/iI83xSbnxm

— Jack Hammer (@JackHammer_NFL) June 28, 2023

Brock checks all the boxes

1.✅
2.✅
3.✅
4.✅
5.✅

I would add a 6th. Air yards. Otherwise a good list.

Brock Purdy's completed air yards per attempt was higher than Patrick Mahomes' last year.

I don't know how many times I have to explain this. A 2 yard screen that goes 80 yards is not the same as a streak thrown 30 yards that goes for 80 yards. One is a greater difficulty than the other. The utility of completed air yards per attempt is to determine how much credit the QB should get for the distance the ball travels. Intended air yards means little, because if its not complete, who cares. But completed air yards tells you a lot about how your team is attacking the defense, and how much ground the defense has to defend. Brock's completed air yards per attempt would have been just outside the top ten, meaning we were both controlling the ball with the pass AND a threat down field, which is obviously ideal.

I thought my sarcasm was obvious. Great info though, hopefully those who are "cautious" about Purdy will read this.

It seems more like you're salty that Jimmy was almost always bad at completed air yards per attempt, and mistakenly believed that it didn't matter. And now that Purdy shows you what happens when your QB can pick up an extra half yard or more of air yards per completion (10 points more per game, for example). It's a little thing per play, but it leads to more first downs and ultimately more points. Being elite at pushing the ball down the field is NOT necessary. But not being afraid to throw past the sticks on third down IS.

Not salty about Jimmy at all. Purdy showed me that indeed WAS Jimmy who was holding the offense back. Well, a combination of Kyle/Jimmy, but it was still being held back nonetheless. Purdy and Kyle/Purdy have simply taken this offense to another level.

thanks for noticing it was you who was in denial

Holding us back? Compared to what, better QB play? Just cuz Brock did better, didn't mean the other guy was holding back. We were 7-3 in the JG games. If JG was holding us back, what was Trey doing? If anyone was holding us back it was JWJ. That guy, don't even get me started on that guy.

It wasn't Jimmy by himself. It's the combination of Jimmy and Kyle. Jimmy was too nice, too accommodating to what Kyle wants. Had his attitude from 2018 to 2021 been what it was in 2022, he would have been better.

Trey is also quiet and seems to be a "people pleaser." I don't think that's a good fit for a coach like Kyle.

Jimmy throwing short of the sticks twice in the red zone in the Super Bowl when another guy was open past the sticks is 100% on Jimmy, not Kyle. That's an 8 point swing in a game we had a 10 point 4th quarter win. We win that game if Jimmy throws 6 yards further down the field to the open guy on two red zone passes. And that's all Jimmy, not Kyle.

I think you and furlow are saying similar things. Essentially, Kyle and Jimmy weren't totally in sync. Kyle calls plays and expects aggressiveness from the QB. Jimmy isn't naturally aggressive with the ball. When you have two personalities like that, and they're working together for a common goal, it usually isn't great.

Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:

Originally posted by Furlow:

Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:

Originally posted by Furlow:

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by Furlow:

Originally posted by Bay2Bay9erAllday:

Shout out @Cianaf: @49ers_hnic This is that "Eye Manipulation" NO LOOK/ make the Shanahan System Better /5 Year Vet ish/ I was talking about!! Things seen are temporal things not seen eternal!! 2 Corinthians 4:18 pic.twitter.com/vYbstg2fXX

— Tarrerdome49ers (@tarrerdome49ers) July 3, 2023

This is a GREAT example of why I can't stand the argument that it's "Kyle's system" as the reason for the QB's success. Beathard, Hoyer, Mullens were not nearly as good at this as Jimmy and now Purdy (who's even better than Jimmy). So many details like this that you just can't see watching the sideline view on game day.

Yes, sir! Kyle has a great system and players benefit from playing in it, but you still have to add to it and play at a very high level. We scored 30+ with Purdy for a reason. It was essentially Kyles offense being Maximized.

it's part of why I don't understand some folks drooling over physical tools, you know? I understand that having a strong arm and fast legs does add an element to the position but it's not a material change unless you're fast like Lamar jackson. To play QB at the highest level - it requires a keen mental understanding of the game and instincts.

I agree 100%. Honestly at a certain point I think if the physical tools become TOO good, it takes away from a QB's development over time. If in high school and college they are simply physically dominant over their competition, how much are they actually learning these nuances of playing QB? Likely not much. Now this isn't to say that there is a lower limit for physical tools as well, of course there is. But clearly Purdy is beyond that.

The mental aspect is also a physical tool. You are born with minds like Mahomes which so naturally see and react so quickly.

So far Brock looks like he has that "presence of mind" which Steve Young talked about, which Mahomes and other great ones have. Yeah, the arm limits him a little bit, but he's really good on intermediate passes, which are 90% of the NFL's deep game. Those 15-25 yard digs are a lot more important than streaks and deep posts.

How is the mental aspect "physical?" There is literally nothing physical about it.

You realize brains are made out of chemicals right? But if that's not enough for you, reflexes are mental, and yet they have a clear physical manifestation on the field.

EDIT: We clearly need more clarity here. The usual context about "physical" traits is that they are what someone is born with and can't appreciably be changed. There are some "mental" traits that fit that description.

Then EVERY trait is "physical." But I think we all understand the difference between physical tools vs. mental tools as it relates to playing QB.

Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:

Originally posted by Furlow:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by Furlow:

Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:

Originally posted by Furlow:

Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:

Originally posted by Furlow:

Originally posted by Bay2Bay9erAllday:

Ever notice how the people who REALLY KNOW what it takes to play quarterback at the highest level don't mention having a big arm? pic.twitter.com/iI83xSbnxm

— Jack Hammer (@JackHammer_NFL) June 28, 2023

Brock checks all the boxes

1.✅
2.✅
3.✅
4.✅
5.✅

I would add a 6th. Air yards. Otherwise a good list.

Brock Purdy's completed air yards per attempt was higher than Patrick Mahomes' last year.

I don't know how many times I have to explain this. A 2 yard screen that goes 80 yards is not the same as a streak thrown 30 yards that goes for 80 yards. One is a greater difficulty than the other. The utility of completed air yards per attempt is to determine how much credit the QB should get for the distance the ball travels. Intended air yards means little, because if its not complete, who cares. But completed air yards tells you a lot about how your team is attacking the defense, and how much ground the defense has to defend. Brock's completed air yards per attempt would have been just outside the top ten, meaning we were both controlling the ball with the pass AND a threat down field, which is obviously ideal.

I thought my sarcasm was obvious. Great info though, hopefully those who are "cautious" about Purdy will read this.

It seems more like you're salty that Jimmy was almost always bad at completed air yards per attempt, and mistakenly believed that it didn't matter. And now that Purdy shows you what happens when your QB can pick up an extra half yard or more of air yards per completion (10 points more per game, for example). It's a little thing per play, but it leads to more first downs and ultimately more points. Being elite at pushing the ball down the field is NOT necessary. But not being afraid to throw past the sticks on third down IS.

Not salty about Jimmy at all. Purdy showed me that indeed WAS Jimmy who was holding the offense back. Well, a combination of Kyle/Jimmy, but it was still being held back nonetheless. Purdy and Kyle/Purdy have simply taken this offense to another level.

thanks for noticing it was you who was in denial

Holding us back? Compared to what, better QB play? Just cuz Brock did better, didn't mean the other guy was holding back. We were 7-3 in the JG games. If JG was holding us back, what was Trey doing? If anyone was holding us back it was JWJ. That guy, don't even get me started on that guy.

It wasn't Jimmy by himself. It's the combination of Jimmy and Kyle. Jimmy was too nice, too accommodating to what Kyle wants. Had his attitude from 2018 to 2021 been what it was in 2022, he would have been better.

Trey is also quiet and seems to be a "people pleaser." I don't think that's a good fit for a coach like Kyle.

Jimmy throwing short of the sticks twice in the red zone in the Super Bowl when another guy was open past the sticks is 100% on Jimmy, not Kyle. That's an 8 point swing in a game we had a 10 point 4th quarter win. We win that game if Jimmy throws 6 yards further down the field to the open guy on two red zone passes. And that's all Jimmy, not Kyle.

So you think that Jimmy, who threw the ball all over the field when he first arrived in 2017, suddenly became very conservative as he learned the offense? The same Jimmy who was pissed off and playing for a contract last year - who then went and threw the ball more aggressively and further down the field (and for better results). Your thesis is that Kyle had nothing to do with that and it was "all on Jimmy?"

Sorry, that's not how football works. The coach doesn't just call the plays and then sit back and hope for the best. Coaches are constantly telling QB's (and all players) what to look for, anticipate, what to do if ____ happens, etc. It is very clear that Kyle is a controlling coach and with a nice/quite/people pleaser type personality at QB - Kyle's "say" is going to dominate. So it took a QB with the balls/moxie like Purdy to know when to tell Kyle to sit down and shut up.