QB Brock Purdy Thread

Sorry Furlow I'm not picking on you. I just read posts in order and respond, then push the back button and keep reading.

Originally posted by Furlow:

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by Furlow:

Originally posted by Bay2Bay9erAllday:

Shout out @Cianaf: @49ers_hnic This is that "Eye Manipulation" NO LOOK/ make the Shanahan System Better /5 Year Vet ish/ I was talking about!! Things seen are temporal things not seen eternal!! 2 Corinthians 4:18 pic.twitter.com/vYbstg2fXX

— Tarrerdome49ers (@tarrerdome49ers) July 3, 2023

This is a GREAT example of why I can't stand the argument that it's "Kyle's system" as the reason for the QB's success. Beathard, Hoyer, Mullens were not nearly as good at this as Jimmy and now Purdy (who's even better than Jimmy). So many details like this that you just can't see watching the sideline view on game day.

Yes, sir! Kyle has a great system and players benefit from playing in it, but you still have to add to it and play at a very high level. We scored 30+ with Purdy for a reason. It was essentially Kyles offense being Maximized.

it's part of why I don't understand some folks drooling over physical tools, you know? I understand that having a strong arm and fast legs does add an element to the position but it's not a material change unless you're fast like Lamar jackson. To play QB at the highest level - it requires a keen mental understanding of the game and instincts.

I agree 100%. Honestly at a certain point I think if the physical tools become TOO good, it takes away from a QB's development over time. If in high school and college they are simply physically dominant over their competition, how much are they actually learning these nuances of playing QB? Likely not much. Now this isn't to say that there is a lower limit for physical tools as well, of course there is. But clearly Purdy is beyond that.

So I wrote about this before, and I wanted to be very careful to not make it sound racial. I was essentially saying what you did - that freak athletes don't get developed properly as passers because high school and college coaches just take advantage of their physical ability. Then they get to the pros and struggle because they've always relied on their athleticism and typically aren't precise passers. Ive always felt like they should tell their coaches no more often, because it's best for them to get their passing ability developed. If you can pass really well/run a system at a high level AND have physical ability - that's awesome. That's when the dual threat is super dangerous. Having a strong arm doesn't make you a good passer.

If you're trying to learn how to be a passing qb once you're at the NFL level - you're kind of set up for failure. Very hard to do, especially cause it takes so long.

Brock has a freaky amount of QB experience for a rookie. Lol he started 3 straight years on varsity in high school and led the team to new heights with his arm. Then he started like 45+ games in college. It's interesting because he HAD to play for the team to win, they relied on him. So he's been through a ton experiences and situations that have prepped him to lead an NFL team. I think that's the biggest reason why he seemed so composed, confident, and has such a high football IQ for a rookie.

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by 49erFaithful6:
I suspect tankle is correct, the first few round whiffs stand out like a sore thumb, natural to suspect these are the KS picks, as we know JL defers to KS, on the O guys. KS on the phone call to Moody was basically gritting thru his teeth, saying welp we took you instead of a 3rd round RB (he wanted the 3rd round RB, maybe got overruled after Sermon and TDP).

Have you followed the Anthony Richardson pick in Indy? Apparently he's had a rough off season. I always thought he will be a bust. It's wayyy too early to tell but I think his rookie year is going to be hideous. I project he will have maybe 10 touchdowns and 20+ picks.

I like A-Rich, and I do see the boom / bust aspect. Martz had a breakdown, and said he needs a lot of 7 on 7 work. That improves processing pre snap, and during live action. He wasn't asked to do a lot of that at Florida, as he was mostly play action with 1 or 2 reads, and the option to run if the pass wasn't on. I think he's enough of an athlete, that they can use his legs, to breakdown teams, kinda like how Fields has done. If you establish yourself as a run threat, you alter how the D plays, and it can open up the pass game. I'll be watching him for sure. To your projection, I would hope Minshew plays, if he's not ready. Minshew is a good bridge option, and has a history with that HC. Brock could probably teach A-Rich a thing or two, that's for sure.

Even though I think Richardson is going to have a REALLY rough few years, the colts seem adamant about giving him a lot of experience to develop him. So I'm really interested to follow his career and see how it works out. They're essentially doing the opposite of what we did with Lance. Lol

i think Richardsons biggest early hurdle will be how he handles the struggles mentally. Keep himself composed and confident. I don't want to see the kid fail, I'm rooting for him, I just don't think it's going to go well. He will benefit from the fact that they aren't expecting to compete for a superboel right now and if he can stay healthy, the colts will get top 5 picks to surround him with for the next few years.

Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:
Sorry Furlow I'm not picking on you. I just read posts in order and respond, then push the back button and keep reading.

Lmao I do that all the time. I get it. Hahaa

Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:

Originally posted by Furlow:

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by Furlow:

Originally posted by Bay2Bay9erAllday:

Shout out @Cianaf: @49ers_hnic This is that "Eye Manipulation" NO LOOK/ make the Shanahan System Better /5 Year Vet ish/ I was talking about!! Things seen are temporal things not seen eternal!! 2 Corinthians 4:18 pic.twitter.com/vYbstg2fXX

— Tarrerdome49ers (@tarrerdome49ers) July 3, 2023

This is a GREAT example of why I can't stand the argument that it's "Kyle's system" as the reason for the QB's success. Beathard, Hoyer, Mullens were not nearly as good at this as Jimmy and now Purdy (who's even better than Jimmy). So many details like this that you just can't see watching the sideline view on game day.

Yes, sir! Kyle has a great system and players benefit from playing in it, but you still have to add to it and play at a very high level. We scored 30+ with Purdy for a reason. It was essentially Kyles offense being Maximized.

it's part of why I don't understand some folks drooling over physical tools, you know? I understand that having a strong arm and fast legs does add an element to the position but it's not a material change unless you're fast like Lamar jackson. To play QB at the highest level - it requires a keen mental understanding of the game and instincts.

I agree 100%. Honestly at a certain point I think if the physical tools become TOO good, it takes away from a QB's development over time. If in high school and college they are simply physically dominant over their competition, how much are they actually learning these nuances of playing QB? Likely not much. Now this isn't to say that there is a lower limit for physical tools as well, of course there is. But clearly Purdy is beyond that.

The mental aspect is also a physical tool. You are born with minds like Mahomes which so naturally see and react so quickly.

So far Brock looks like he has that "presence of mind" which Steve Young talked about, which Mahomes and other great ones have. Yeah, the arm limits him a little bit, but he's really good on intermediate passes, which are 90% of the NFL's deep game. Those 15-25 yard digs are a lot more important than streaks and deep posts.

How is the mental aspect "physical?" There is literally nothing physical about it.

Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:

Originally posted by Furlow:

Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:

Originally posted by Furlow:

Originally posted by Bay2Bay9erAllday:

Ever notice how the people who REALLY KNOW what it takes to play quarterback at the highest level don't mention having a big arm? pic.twitter.com/iI83xSbnxm

— Jack Hammer (@JackHammer_NFL) June 28, 2023

Brock checks all the boxes

1.✅
2.✅
3.✅
4.✅
5.✅

I would add a 6th. Air yards. Otherwise a good list.

Brock Purdy's completed air yards per attempt was higher than Patrick Mahomes' last year.

I don't know how many times I have to explain this. A 2 yard screen that goes 80 yards is not the same as a streak thrown 30 yards that goes for 80 yards. One is a greater difficulty than the other. The utility of completed air yards per attempt is to determine how much credit the QB should get for the distance the ball travels. Intended air yards means little, because if its not complete, who cares. But completed air yards tells you a lot about how your team is attacking the defense, and how much ground the defense has to defend. Brock's completed air yards per attempt would have been just outside the top ten, meaning we were both controlling the ball with the pass AND a threat down field, which is obviously ideal.

I thought my sarcasm was obvious. Great info though, hopefully those who are "cautious" about Purdy will read this.

It seems more like you're salty that Jimmy was almost always bad at completed air yards per attempt, and mistakenly believed that it didn't matter. And now that Purdy shows you what happens when your QB can pick up an extra half yard or more of air yards per completion (10 points more per game, for example). It's a little thing per play, but it leads to more first downs and ultimately more points. Being elite at pushing the ball down the field is NOT necessary. But not being afraid to throw past the sticks on third down IS.

Not salty about Jimmy at all. Purdy showed me that indeed WAS Jimmy who was holding the offense back. Well, a combination of Kyle/Jimmy, but it was still being held back nonetheless. Purdy and Kyle/Purdy have simply taken this offense to another level.

Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:
Sorry Furlow I'm not picking on you. I just read posts in order and respond, then push the back button and keep reading.

Not taking it that way at all.

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by Furlow:

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by Furlow:

Originally posted by Bay2Bay9erAllday:

Shout out @Cianaf: @49ers_hnic This is that "Eye Manipulation" NO LOOK/ make the Shanahan System Better /5 Year Vet ish/ I was talking about!! Things seen are temporal things not seen eternal!! 2 Corinthians 4:18 pic.twitter.com/vYbstg2fXX

— Tarrerdome49ers (@tarrerdome49ers) July 3, 2023

This is a GREAT example of why I can't stand the argument that it's "Kyle's system" as the reason for the QB's success. Beathard, Hoyer, Mullens were not nearly as good at this as Jimmy and now Purdy (who's even better than Jimmy). So many details like this that you just can't see watching the sideline view on game day.

Yes, sir! Kyle has a great system and players benefit from playing in it, but you still have to add to it and play at a very high level. We scored 30+ with Purdy for a reason. It was essentially Kyles offense being Maximized.

it's part of why I don't understand some folks drooling over physical tools, you know? I understand that having a strong arm and fast legs does add an element to the position but it's not a material change unless you're fast like Lamar jackson. To play QB at the highest level - it requires a keen mental understanding of the game and instincts.

I agree 100%. Honestly at a certain point I think if the physical tools become TOO good, it takes away from a QB's development over time. If in high school and college they are simply physically dominant over their competition, how much are they actually learning these nuances of playing QB? Likely not much. Now this isn't to say that there is a lower limit for physical tools as well, of course there is. But clearly Purdy is beyond that.

So I wrote about this before, and I wanted to be very careful to not make it sound racial. I was essentially saying what you did - that freak athletes don't get developed properly as passers because high school and college coaches just take advantage of their physical ability. Then they get to the pros and struggle because they've always relied on their athleticism and typically aren't precise passers. Ive always felt like they should tell their coaches no more often, because it's best for them to get their passing ability developed. If you can pass really well/run a system at a high level AND have physical ability - that's awesome. That's when the dual threat is super dangerous. Having a strong arm doesn't make you a good passer.

If you're trying to learn how to be a passing qb once you're at the NFL level - you're kind of set up for failure. Very hard to do, especially cause it takes so long.

Brock has a freaky amount of QB experience for a rookie. Lol he started 3 straight years on varsity in high school and led the team to new heights with his arm. Then he started like 45+ games in college. It's interesting because he HAD to play for the team to win, they relied on him. So he's been through a ton experiences and situations that have prepped him to lead an NFL team. I think that's the biggest reason why he seemed so composed, confident, and has such a high football IQ for a rookie.

It was more of a "racial" argument 15-20 years ago, because athletic white QB's were so rare. Now it's much more common so there is no racial aspect to it (at least there doesn't need to be, can't speak for everyone).

Agreed about high school and college coaches not developing their players for their pros, but honestly that's not their job. They need to win games at the level that they are at. It's up to individual players and their families to make sure that they are getting the proper training in the off season and selecting schools that run the type of offense suited for the pros. WAY too many lazy high school and college programs that run some version of the read option and win games by having the best athletes. If you send your kid to one of those schools, then you can't really complain when you get to the NFL and struggle with a pro offense.

Originally posted by Furlow:

Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:

Originally posted by Furlow:

Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:

Originally posted by Furlow:

Originally posted by Bay2Bay9erAllday:

Ever notice how the people who REALLY KNOW what it takes to play quarterback at the highest level don't mention having a big arm? pic.twitter.com/iI83xSbnxm

— Jack Hammer (@JackHammer_NFL) June 28, 2023

Brock checks all the boxes

1.✅
2.✅
3.✅
4.✅
5.✅

I would add a 6th. Air yards. Otherwise a good list.

Brock Purdy's completed air yards per attempt was higher than Patrick Mahomes' last year.

I don't know how many times I have to explain this. A 2 yard screen that goes 80 yards is not the same as a streak thrown 30 yards that goes for 80 yards. One is a greater difficulty than the other. The utility of completed air yards per attempt is to determine how much credit the QB should get for the distance the ball travels. Intended air yards means little, because if its not complete, who cares. But completed air yards tells you a lot about how your team is attacking the defense, and how much ground the defense has to defend. Brock's completed air yards per attempt would have been just outside the top ten, meaning we were both controlling the ball with the pass AND a threat down field, which is obviously ideal.

I thought my sarcasm was obvious. Great info though, hopefully those who are "cautious" about Purdy will read this.

It seems more like you're salty that Jimmy was almost always bad at completed air yards per attempt, and mistakenly believed that it didn't matter. And now that Purdy shows you what happens when your QB can pick up an extra half yard or more of air yards per completion (10 points more per game, for example). It's a little thing per play, but it leads to more first downs and ultimately more points. Being elite at pushing the ball down the field is NOT necessary. But not being afraid to throw past the sticks on third down IS.

Not salty about Jimmy at all. Purdy showed me that indeed WAS Jimmy who was holding the offense back. Well, a combination of Kyle/Jimmy, but it was still being held back nonetheless. Purdy and Kyle/Purdy have simply taken this offense to another level.

Same here, Purdy displayed that the way jimmy plays and where he prefers to throw the ball, was putting limitations on the offense. It was still good ball and jimmy played well, just Brock displayed some special things.

what Brock did was nothing short of special and amazing. Idk how anyone can watch what he did and not think that. Lol I also think that Brock and Kyle have great chemistry and see the game very similar. That's important, very important. If you don't see the full picture of what the play caller is trying to set up, then you essentially just go out there and run the play. If you know what Kyle is trying to do, there are little things you can do that help those plays as the QB. For example, him moving guys with his eyes - then taking a nice big chunk play, instead of a dump off.

that puts so much pressure on the defense and opens up the playbook. Stretches the defense out, giving Kyle even MORE options. Giving the skill players more room to breath. Etc.

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by Furlow:

Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:

Originally posted by Furlow:

Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:

Originally posted by Furlow:

Originally posted by Bay2Bay9erAllday:

Ever notice how the people who REALLY KNOW what it takes to play quarterback at the highest level don't mention having a big arm? pic.twitter.com/iI83xSbnxm

— Jack Hammer (@JackHammer_NFL) June 28, 2023

Brock checks all the boxes

1.✅
2.✅
3.✅
4.✅
5.✅

I would add a 6th. Air yards. Otherwise a good list.

Brock Purdy's completed air yards per attempt was higher than Patrick Mahomes' last year.

I don't know how many times I have to explain this. A 2 yard screen that goes 80 yards is not the same as a streak thrown 30 yards that goes for 80 yards. One is a greater difficulty than the other. The utility of completed air yards per attempt is to determine how much credit the QB should get for the distance the ball travels. Intended air yards means little, because if its not complete, who cares. But completed air yards tells you a lot about how your team is attacking the defense, and how much ground the defense has to defend. Brock's completed air yards per attempt would have been just outside the top ten, meaning we were both controlling the ball with the pass AND a threat down field, which is obviously ideal.

I thought my sarcasm was obvious. Great info though, hopefully those who are "cautious" about Purdy will read this.

It seems more like you're salty that Jimmy was almost always bad at completed air yards per attempt, and mistakenly believed that it didn't matter. And now that Purdy shows you what happens when your QB can pick up an extra half yard or more of air yards per completion (10 points more per game, for example). It's a little thing per play, but it leads to more first downs and ultimately more points. Being elite at pushing the ball down the field is NOT necessary. But not being afraid to throw past the sticks on third down IS.

Not salty about Jimmy at all. Purdy showed me that indeed WAS Jimmy who was holding the offense back. Well, a combination of Kyle/Jimmy, but it was still being held back nonetheless. Purdy and Kyle/Purdy have simply taken this offense to another level.

Same here, Purdy displayed that the way jimmy plays and where he prefers to throw the ball, was putting limitations on the offense. It was still good ball and jimmy played well, just Brock displayed some special things.

what Brock did was nothing short of special and amazing. Idk how anyone can watch what he did and not think that. Lol I also think that Brock and Kyle have great chemistry and see the game very similar. That's important, very important. If you don't see the full picture of what the play caller is trying to set up, then you essentially just go out there and run the play. If you know what Kyle is trying to do, there are little things you can do that help those plays as the QB. For example, him moving guys with his eyes - then taking a nice big chunk play, instead of a dump off.

that puts so much pressure on the defense and opens up the playbook. Stretches the defense out, giving Kyle even MORE options. Giving the skill players more room to breath. Etc.

What I see from Purdy is a willingness to tell Kyle to "shove it" and take shots/make plays that Kyle may not necessarily want. He operates the offense as Kyle designs it, but can also see wrinkles outside the offense and play design that he feels are better for that moment. He's not afraid of Kyle in the slightest. That is crucial for a successful QB/play caller relationship. Now, it can't go too far, of course. Same is true of the coach/playcaller. Kyle simply dominated Jimmy mentally; until maybe this season when Jimmy finally said "F this" and started slinging it. No surprise it was some of his best ball.

Originally posted by Furlow:

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by Furlow:

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by Furlow:

Originally posted by Bay2Bay9erAllday:

Shout out @Cianaf: @49ers_hnic This is that "Eye Manipulation" NO LOOK/ make the Shanahan System Better /5 Year Vet ish/ I was talking about!! Things seen are temporal things not seen eternal!! 2 Corinthians 4:18 pic.twitter.com/vYbstg2fXX

— Tarrerdome49ers (@tarrerdome49ers) July 3, 2023

This is a GREAT example of why I can't stand the argument that it's "Kyle's system" as the reason for the QB's success. Beathard, Hoyer, Mullens were not nearly as good at this as Jimmy and now Purdy (who's even better than Jimmy). So many details like this that you just can't see watching the sideline view on game day.

Yes, sir! Kyle has a great system and players benefit from playing in it, but you still have to add to it and play at a very high level. We scored 30+ with Purdy for a reason. It was essentially Kyles offense being Maximized.

it's part of why I don't understand some folks drooling over physical tools, you know? I understand that having a strong arm and fast legs does add an element to the position but it's not a material change unless you're fast like Lamar jackson. To play QB at the highest level - it requires a keen mental understanding of the game and instincts.

I agree 100%. Honestly at a certain point I think if the physical tools become TOO good, it takes away from a QB's development over time. If in high school and college they are simply physically dominant over their competition, how much are they actually learning these nuances of playing QB? Likely not much. Now this isn't to say that there is a lower limit for physical tools as well, of course there is. But clearly Purdy is beyond that.

So I wrote about this before, and I wanted to be very careful to not make it sound racial. I was essentially saying what you did - that freak athletes don't get developed properly as passers because high school and college coaches just take advantage of their physical ability. Then they get to the pros and struggle because they've always relied on their athleticism and typically aren't precise passers. Ive always felt like they should tell their coaches no more often, because it's best for them to get their passing ability developed. If you can pass really well/run a system at a high level AND have physical ability - that's awesome. That's when the dual threat is super dangerous. Having a strong arm doesn't make you a good passer.

If you're trying to learn how to be a passing qb once you're at the NFL level - you're kind of set up for failure. Very hard to do, especially cause it takes so long.

Brock has a freaky amount of QB experience for a rookie. Lol he started 3 straight years on varsity in high school and led the team to new heights with his arm. Then he started like 45+ games in college. It's interesting because he HAD to play for the team to win, they relied on him. So he's been through a ton experiences and situations that have prepped him to lead an NFL team. I think that's the biggest reason why he seemed so composed, confident, and has such a high football IQ for a rookie.

It was more of a "racial" argument 15-20 years ago, because athletic white QB's were so rare. Now it's much more common so there is no racial aspect to it (at least there doesn't need to be, can't speak for everyone).

Agreed about high school and college coaches not developing their players for their pros, but honestly that's not their job. They need to win games at the level that they are at. It's up to individual players and their families to make sure that they are getting the proper training in the off season and selecting schools that run the type of offense suited for the pros. WAY too many lazy high school and college programs that run some version of the read option and win games by having the best athletes. If you send your kid to one of those schools, then you can't really complain when you get to the NFL and struggle with a pro offense.

I know, it's just hard sometimes for people to understand what you're saying through text and can interpret it wrong. I just wanted to be clear that I wasn't saying anything that could be misinterpreted.

i understand what you're saying and it's true, the family/athlete have a responsibility in it too. I guess I just feel like coaches have a responsibility to the athletes to develop them properly too. I think it's lazy coaching to be like "this kid is super fast, so instead of having him play QB the right way - I'll just take advantage of that instead of properly coaching him up". I think you should be more devoted. Not saying they shouldn't add their special athleticism to the play calling, but not overly rely on it. Just be more balanced.

you see that with schools like Ohio State when they had urban Meyer. Lol they were super talented but he def just relied on their freaky athleticism instead of really trying to coach some up.

it takes two to tango. I thought it was cool that Brock went to Iowa State and really wanted to elevate them, instead of just going to Alabama (he had an offer). Says a lot about the kid and it's a big reason why he faced so much adversity as a player and leader of the team. It's not an easy task to play much better programs than you weekly and you try to compete.

did you see how bad Iowa State was last year without Brock? Lol it's crazy. I believe they set records for how bad their offense was.

Originally posted by Furlow:

Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:

Originally posted by Furlow:

Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:

Originally posted by Furlow:

Originally posted by Bay2Bay9erAllday:

Ever notice how the people who REALLY KNOW what it takes to play quarterback at the highest level don't mention having a big arm? pic.twitter.com/iI83xSbnxm

— Jack Hammer (@JackHammer_NFL) June 28, 2023

Brock checks all the boxes

1.✅
2.✅
3.✅
4.✅
5.✅

I would add a 6th. Air yards. Otherwise a good list.

Brock Purdy's completed air yards per attempt was higher than Patrick Mahomes' last year.

I don't know how many times I have to explain this. A 2 yard screen that goes 80 yards is not the same as a streak thrown 30 yards that goes for 80 yards. One is a greater difficulty than the other. The utility of completed air yards per attempt is to determine how much credit the QB should get for the distance the ball travels. Intended air yards means little, because if its not complete, who cares. But completed air yards tells you a lot about how your team is attacking the defense, and how much ground the defense has to defend. Brock's completed air yards per attempt would have been just outside the top ten, meaning we were both controlling the ball with the pass AND a threat down field, which is obviously ideal.

I thought my sarcasm was obvious. Great info though, hopefully those who are "cautious" about Purdy will read this.

It seems more like you're salty that Jimmy was almost always bad at completed air yards per attempt, and mistakenly believed that it didn't matter. And now that Purdy shows you what happens when your QB can pick up an extra half yard or more of air yards per completion (10 points more per game, for example). It's a little thing per play, but it leads to more first downs and ultimately more points. Being elite at pushing the ball down the field is NOT necessary. But not being afraid to throw past the sticks on third down IS.

Not salty about Jimmy at all. Purdy showed me that indeed WAS Jimmy who was holding the offense back. Well, a combination of Kyle/Jimmy, but it was still being held back nonetheless. Purdy and Kyle/Purdy have simply taken this offense to another level.

thanks for noticing it was you who was in denial

Originally posted by Furlow:

Originally posted by tankle104:

Originally posted by Furlow:

Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:

Originally posted by Furlow:

Originally posted by 5_Golden_Rings:

Originally posted by Furlow:

Originally posted by Bay2Bay9erAllday:

Ever notice how the people who REALLY KNOW what it takes to play quarterback at the highest level don't mention having a big arm? pic.twitter.com/iI83xSbnxm

— Jack Hammer (@JackHammer_NFL) June 28, 2023

Brock checks all the boxes

1.✅
2.✅
3.✅
4.✅
5.✅

I would add a 6th. Air yards. Otherwise a good list.

Brock Purdy's completed air yards per attempt was higher than Patrick Mahomes' last year.

I don't know how many times I have to explain this. A 2 yard screen that goes 80 yards is not the same as a streak thrown 30 yards that goes for 80 yards. One is a greater difficulty than the other. The utility of completed air yards per attempt is to determine how much credit the QB should get for the distance the ball travels. Intended air yards means little, because if its not complete, who cares. But completed air yards tells you a lot about how your team is attacking the defense, and how much ground the defense has to defend. Brock's completed air yards per attempt would have been just outside the top ten, meaning we were both controlling the ball with the pass AND a threat down field, which is obviously ideal.

I thought my sarcasm was obvious. Great info though, hopefully those who are "cautious" about Purdy will read this.

It seems more like you're salty that Jimmy was almost always bad at completed air yards per attempt, and mistakenly believed that it didn't matter. And now that Purdy shows you what happens when your QB can pick up an extra half yard or more of air yards per completion (10 points more per game, for example). It's a little thing per play, but it leads to more first downs and ultimately more points. Being elite at pushing the ball down the field is NOT necessary. But not being afraid to throw past the sticks on third down IS.

Not salty about Jimmy at all. Purdy showed me that indeed WAS Jimmy who was holding the offense back. Well, a combination of Kyle/Jimmy, but it was still being held back nonetheless. Purdy and Kyle/Purdy have simply taken this offense to another level.

Same here, Purdy displayed that the way jimmy plays and where he prefers to throw the ball, was putting limitations on the offense. It was still good ball and jimmy played well, just Brock displayed some special things.

what Brock did was nothing short of special and amazing. Idk how anyone can watch what he did and not think that. Lol I also think that Brock and Kyle have great chemistry and see the game very similar. That's important, very important. If you don't see the full picture of what the play caller is trying to set up, then you essentially just go out there and run the play. If you know what Kyle is trying to do, there are little things you can do that help those plays as the QB. For example, him moving guys with his eyes - then taking a nice big chunk play, instead of a dump off.

that puts so much pressure on the defense and opens up the playbook. Stretches the defense out, giving Kyle even MORE options. Giving the skill players more room to breath. Etc.

What I see from Purdy is a willingness to tell Kyle to "shove it" and take shots/make plays that Kyle may not necessarily want. He operates the offense as Kyle designs it, but can also see wrinkles outside the offense and play design that he feels are better for that moment. He's not afraid of Kyle in the slightest. That is crucial for a successful QB/play caller relationship. Now, it can't go too far, of course. Same is true of the coach/playcaller. Kyle simply dominated Jimmy mentally; until maybe this season when Jimmy finally said "F this" and started slinging it. No surprise it was some of his best ball.

Yeah, I can see that too. Jimmy was playing much looser and I thought he looked really good.

Brock definitely added his own element and wasn't worried about being aggressive. He wasn't out there just running plays, he was out there trying to win. Try to beat on of them defense. I love that in a QB. It's a balance because you can't be too aggressive but he did it very well.

it's funny cause he doesn't seem so fiery but he is out there. Apparently hes is Uber confident and competitive, which is an excellent combo for a qb. You have to be at this stage, otherwise you'll get gobbled up and mentally dominated.

FYI - Iowa States offense with its first year with Purdy gone.

"the team's rushing average of 108.0 yards a game, the program's worst since 93.5 yards a game in 1997. The 20.7 scoring average was the worst since 18.2 in 2007."

That's my qb 🤘😭

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Ever notice how the people who REALLY KNOW what it takes to play quarterback at the highest level don't mention having a big arm? pic.twitter.com/iI83xSbnxm

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Brock checks all the boxes

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I would add a 6th. Air yards. Otherwise a good list.

Brock Purdy's completed air yards per attempt was higher than Patrick Mahomes' last year.

I don't know how many times I have to explain this. A 2 yard screen that goes 80 yards is not the same as a streak thrown 30 yards that goes for 80 yards. One is a greater difficulty than the other. The utility of completed air yards per attempt is to determine how much credit the QB should get for the distance the ball travels. Intended air yards means little, because if its not complete, who cares. But completed air yards tells you a lot about how your team is attacking the defense, and how much ground the defense has to defend. Brock's completed air yards per attempt would have been just outside the top ten, meaning we were both controlling the ball with the pass AND a threat down field, which is obviously ideal.

I thought my sarcasm was obvious. Great info though, hopefully those who are "cautious" about Purdy will read this.

It seems more like you're salty that Jimmy was almost always bad at completed air yards per attempt, and mistakenly believed that it didn't matter. And now that Purdy shows you what happens when your QB can pick up an extra half yard or more of air yards per completion (10 points more per game, for example). It's a little thing per play, but it leads to more first downs and ultimately more points. Being elite at pushing the ball down the field is NOT necessary. But not being afraid to throw past the sticks on third down IS.

Not salty about Jimmy at all. Purdy showed me that indeed WAS Jimmy who was holding the offense back. Well, a combination of Kyle/Jimmy, but it was still being held back nonetheless. Purdy and Kyle/Purdy have simply taken this offense to another level.

thanks for noticing it was you who was in denial

Holding us back? Compared to what, better QB play? Just cuz Brock did better, didn't mean the other guy was holding back. We were 7-3 in the JG games. If JG was holding us back, what was Trey doing? If anyone was holding us back it was JWJ. That guy, don't even get me started on that guy.