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Originally posted by Hysterikal:
Cause Kyles proven to be loyal to who he names the starting QB. Cause Brock's proven more than either of those 2 guys. Would you have wanted Kyle to pull Trey last year after 6 games for Jimmy if his stat line looked like that. I'm betting you would have been opposed to that idea.

I don't view those two as the same. One needed reps in the worst way. Hadn't played legit football since 2019 AND we made the biggest trade in franchise history for. He was always gonna need reps.

the other was the last pick in the draft and kyle called him Nick Mullens 2.0 when they first got him. Made the most of his opportunities for sure. That's why he gets first crack as the starter.

so let me ask you this. If we drafted Jaire Alexander & got 2 and a half games of football, didn't look like an all-star, and got hurt….then Lenoir played great for 6 games. He gets first crack at the starting position, Correct? If he doesn't play well over the course of a couple games and cost the team wins…you stick with Lenoir no matter what? I totally disagree.

We don't have a vet pro-bowler making stupid money at QB. We have limited sample sizes and I feel like that can be fluid. Just my two cents.
This is really simple. Kyle will play the quarterback that gives the team "the Best chance to win". Be that guy, or sit. And if you only get to show your stuff in practice, you're not showing enough.
Originally posted by BOI49er:
This is really simple. Kyle will play the quarterback that gives the team "the Best chance to win". Be that guy, or sit. And if you only get to show your stuff in practice, you're not showing enough.

Yep.

On a side note it is a raw deal for a player who needs playing experience to develop… essentially a catch 22 for Trey. The team is ready to win though and that should trump individual development.
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by Hysterikal:
Cause Kyles proven to be loyal to who he names the starting QB. Cause Brock's proven more than either of those 2 guys. Would you have wanted Kyle to pull Trey last year after 6 games for Jimmy if his stat line looked like that. I'm betting you would have been opposed to that idea.

I don't view those two as the same. One needed reps in the worst way. Hadn't played legit football since 2019 AND we made the biggest trade in franchise history for. He was always gonna need reps.

the other was the last pick in the draft and kyle called him Nick Mullens 2.0 when they first got him. Made the most of his opportunities for sure. That's why he gets first crack as the starter.

so let me ask you this. If we drafted Jaire Alexander & got 2 and a half games of football, didn't look like an all-star, and got hurt….then Lenoir played great for 6 games. He gets first crack at the starting position, Correct? If he doesn't play well over the course of a couple games and cost the team wins…you stick with Lenoir no matter what? I totally disagree.

We don't have a vet pro-bowler making stupid money at QB. We have limited sample sizes and I feel like that can be fluid. Just my two cents.

I get what you're saying. And I hope Trey shows out and takes the position cause that's gonna be great news for fans that the strong arm mobilish QB will open up Defenses even more. I don't think it's gonna happen but it would be good news. These guys will be competing in practice and first step for Trey is beating Sam.
Originally posted by Hysterikal:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by Hysterikal:
Cause Kyles proven to be loyal to who he names the starting QB. Cause Brock's proven more than either of those 2 guys. Would you have wanted Kyle to pull Trey last year after 6 games for Jimmy if his stat line looked like that. I'm betting you would have been opposed to that idea.

I don't view those two as the same. One needed reps in the worst way. Hadn't played legit football since 2019 AND we made the biggest trade in franchise history for. He was always gonna need reps.

the other was the last pick in the draft and kyle called him Nick Mullens 2.0 when they first got him. Made the most of his opportunities for sure. That's why he gets first crack as the starter.

so let me ask you this. If we drafted Jaire Alexander & got 2 and a half games of football, didn't look like an all-star, and got hurt….then Lenoir played great for 6 games. He gets first crack at the starting position, Correct? If he doesn't play well over the course of a couple games and cost the team wins…you stick with Lenoir no matter what? I totally disagree.

We don't have a vet pro-bowler making stupid money at QB. We have limited sample sizes and I feel like that can be fluid. Just my two cents.

I get what you're saying. And I hope Trey shows out and takes the position cause that's gonna be great news for fans that the strong arm mobilish QB will open up Defenses even more. I don't think it's gonna happen but it would be good news. These guys will be competing in practice and first step for Trey is beating Sam.

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Originally posted by NYniner85:
Excuse me? I've said for over a month that none of these QBs have earned the right to play through bad play at this point. If they were unwilling to do it with their highly drafted QB that they spent yrs of 1st on…they aren't gonna do it now.

You and faithful back at it…talking about the poster and trying to find gotcha moments instead of having a normal discussion. What's the point in talking to either of you? It always ends in this b******t pointing figures who's smarter than who crap.

Can't develop! Can't Develop! Then mocking the posters talking about the roster Is too good to let Trey play.

Your whole stance has been letting Trey play and develop. Now all of a sudden the words coming out of your mouth are different because it's no longer Trey in the driver's seat.

You constantly talk out of both sides of your mouth. The right side tries to lead us to believe that you are more than fine with Brock. The left side constantly shows us that's not truly the case.

It's what you do. I promise you no one is looking for the gotcha moments. We don't need to. You serving up on a silver platter on the daily. You have essentially been called out for similar things by umpteen posters here. Not just me and faithful.

As for talking about the poster and not the post. TBF faithful literally asked you about a portion of your post. Me, not so much. I read your post then seen you get called out AGAIN
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Originally posted by SmokeyJoe:
Yep.

On a side note it is a raw deal for a player who needs playing experience to develop… essentially a catch 22 for Trey. The team is ready to win though and that should trump individual development.

The Ole, you can't get a loan because you don't have any established credit scenario
The offense is so heavy in scripting, I don't know how "bad" a series of games a QB could have.

I don't think we could see young Alex Smith level bad from a QB that knows the system. Even Nick Mullins had games that looked Dan Marino-ish.

We all know why and how the offense breaks down, and 99% of the time is going to be o-line, o-line, and o-line.

If Brock had a truly bad couple of games due to QB error, the dude is going to get yanked.

I really think there is a "floor" to how bad a knowledgeable QB can look here, under this coach.
Originally posted by Hysterikal:
I get what you're saying. And I hope Trey shows out and takes the position cause that's gonna be great news for fans that the strong arm mobilish QB will open up Defenses even more. I don't think it's gonna happen but it would be good news. These guys will be competing in practice and first step for Trey is beating Sam.

Right. It's not even just Trey. I just don't think any of them have the leeway to play bad football for a stretch.
Originally posted by Dshearn:
The offense is so heavy in scripting, I don't know how "bad" a series of games a QB could have.

I don't think we could see young Alex Smith level bad from a QB that knows the system. Even Nick Mullins had games that looked Dan Marino-ish.

We all know why and how the offense breaks down, and 99% of the time is going to be o-line, o-line, and o-line.

If Brock had a truly bad couple of games due to QB error, the dude is going to get yanked.

I really think there is a "floor" to how bad a knowledgeable QB can look here, under this coach.

Going to disagree given what we've actually seen. Brian Hoyer was brought in precisely because of his familiarity with the system and presumably his ability to help 'coach' the offense as the system was implemented. He was absolutely abysmal.

That said, it's not always clear how knowledgeable an individual QB may actually be. The ability to execute on the field shouldn't be downplayed.
Originally posted by Hysterikal:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by Hysterikal:
Cause Kyles proven to be loyal to who he names the starting QB. Cause Brock's proven more than either of those 2 guys. Would you have wanted Kyle to pull Trey last year after 6 games for Jimmy if his stat line looked like that. I'm betting you would have been opposed to that idea.

I don't view those two as the same. One needed reps in the worst way. Hadn't played legit football since 2019 AND we made the biggest trade in franchise history for. He was always gonna need reps.

the other was the last pick in the draft and kyle called him Nick Mullens 2.0 when they first got him. Made the most of his opportunities for sure. That's why he gets first crack as the starter.

so let me ask you this. If we drafted Jaire Alexander & got 2 and a half games of football, didn't look like an all-star, and got hurt….then Lenoir played great for 6 games. He gets first crack at the starting position, Correct? If he doesn't play well over the course of a couple games and cost the team wins…you stick with Lenoir no matter what? I totally disagree.

We don't have a vet pro-bowler making stupid money at QB. We have limited sample sizes and I feel like that can be fluid. Just my two cents.

I get what you're saying. And I hope Trey shows out and takes the position cause that's gonna be great news for fans that the strong arm mobilish QB will open up Defenses even more. I don't think it's gonna happen but it would be good news. These guys will be competing in practice and first step for Trey is beating Sam.

LEAVE ALL-PRO LINEBACKER JAIRE ALEXANDER OUT OF THIS!
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by Hysterikal:
I get what you're saying. And I hope Trey shows out and takes the position cause that's gonna be great news for fans that the strong arm mobilish QB will open up Defenses even more. I don't think it's gonna happen but it would be good news. These guys will be competing in practice and first step for Trey is beating Sam.

Right. It's not even just Trey. I just don't think any of them have the leeway to play bad football for a stretch.

Yeah but as I said earlier Kyle is loyal to whoever he makes the starter. He's not gonna allow there to be QB controversy during the season
[ Edited by Hysterikal on Jun 14, 2023 at 3:25 PM ]
Originally posted by Waterbear:
Originally posted by Hysterikal:
Originally posted by NYniner85:
Originally posted by Hysterikal:
Cause Kyles proven to be loyal to who he names the starting QB. Cause Brock's proven more than either of those 2 guys. Would you have wanted Kyle to pull Trey last year after 6 games for Jimmy if his stat line looked like that. I'm betting you would have been opposed to that idea.

I don't view those two as the same. One needed reps in the worst way. Hadn't played legit football since 2019 AND we made the biggest trade in franchise history for. He was always gonna need reps.

the other was the last pick in the draft and kyle called him Nick Mullens 2.0 when they first got him. Made the most of his opportunities for sure. That's why he gets first crack as the starter.

so let me ask you this. If we drafted Jaire Alexander & got 2 and a half games of football, didn't look like an all-star, and got hurt….then Lenoir played great for 6 games. He gets first crack at the starting position, Correct? If he doesn't play well over the course of a couple games and cost the team wins…you stick with Lenoir no matter what? I totally disagree.

We don't have a vet pro-bowler making stupid money at QB. We have limited sample sizes and I feel like that can be fluid. Just my two cents.

I get what you're saying. And I hope Trey shows out and takes the position cause that's gonna be great news for fans that the strong arm mobilish QB will open up Defenses even more. I don't think it's gonna happen but it would be good news. These guys will be competing in practice and first step for Trey is beating Sam.

LEAVE ALL-PRO LINEBACKER JAIRE ALEXANDER OUT OF THIS!
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preach!!!!
Originally posted by tankle104:
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preach!!!!
Cowboys had a top 2 defense. But it sure wasn't #1
[ Edited by Hysterikal on Jun 14, 2023 at 3:44 PM ]
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